On 08/09/2019 09:59, nightjar wrote:
On 07/09/2019 10:09, Rod Speed wrote:


"nightjar" wrote in message
news
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He has made no serious moves to negotiate a deal

Thats a bare faced lie...

Ask Amber Rudd.

And you WILL get a barefaced lie.
That smells of fish.


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In article ,
Joe wrote:
On Sat, 07 Sep 2019 13:41:19 +0100
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:

In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Why does the Left never talk about *creating* wealth?

Because it hasn't a clue how to do it.


Thought you objected to Blair being so wealthy?


How much of it did he create? As far as I can see, he just persuades
others to hand over their wealth to him. A talent, certainly, but not
wealth creation.

Just like Boris then?

But good to know you think only those who actually make things, like the
workers, should be wealthy. Or am I missing something?

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In article ,
Brian Reay wrote:
On 07/09/2019 16:59, Joe wrote:
On Sat, 07 Sep 2019 13:41:19 +0100
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:

In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Why does the Left never talk about *creating* wealth?

Because it hasn't a clue how to do it.


Thought you objected to Blair being so wealthy?


How much of it did he create? As far as I can see, he just persuades
others to hand over their wealth to him. A talent, certainly, but not
wealth creation.


Socialists have a 'blind eye' when it comes to their own wealth, it is
only when others have money they have a problem. They solve that problem
by grabbing it by what ever means they can.

Seems you were a teacher? Care to tell us how your salary compared under
say the Thatcher administration and the Blair one?

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In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Socialism and the Left are pure hypocrisy. The only real skill a
socialist has is lying.

And they have conned the lower classes and the lower middle classes for
years.

But not the upper classes such as you?

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On Sun, 08 Sep 2019 13:02:16 +0100
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:

In article ,
Joe wrote:
On Sat, 07 Sep 2019 13:41:19 +0100
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:

In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Why does the Left never talk about *creating* wealth?

Because it hasn't a clue how to do it.


Thought you objected to Blair being so wealthy?


How much of it did he create? As far as I can see, he just persuades
others to hand over their wealth to him. A talent, certainly, but
not wealth creation.

Just like Boris then?

But good to know you think only those who actually make things, like
the workers, should be wealthy. Or am I missing something?


I don't know. Try quoting the part where I said that, and I'll let you
know.

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Joe

"nightjar" wrote in message
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On 07/09/2019 10:09, Rod Speed wrote:


"nightjar" wrote in message
news
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He has made no serious moves to negotiate a deal

Thats a bare faced lie...

Ask Amber Rudd.

She's no authority on that. We know what he has setup
meetings wise in the time between now and 29-Oct
because the EU has spelt that out.

On Mon, 9 Sep 2019 05:57:33 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


Ask Amber Rudd.

She's no authority on that.

She certainly is no trolling asshole like you. Come to think of it, even
Boris isn't, although he comes very close to being one!

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On Friday, 6 September 2019 20:00:53 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
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On Friday, 6 September 2019 11:05:59 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
"Spike" wrote in message
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On 05/09/2019 19:59, Rod Speed wrote:
Stephen Cole wrote

150,000 people have registered to vote since Monday, with the
majority
of them being young (under 45s). So, if that keeps up through the
next
few weeks, the demographics at the next (very imminent) general
election
will be somewhat more considerably left-leaning and remain-leaning
than
even in GE2017, particularly so when you factor in the €œnatural
wastage€�
of older right/leave voters. Change is coming.

It always does, but its unlikely to see that fool Corbyn as PM.

"The total number of UK parliamentary electors increased by just over 1
million (2.3%) between December 2015 and December 2016, this partly
reflects high levels of public engagement with the EU referendum."

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...ticsforuk/2016

But the polls show that Corbyn hasnt got a hope in hell of being PM
currently.

The polls also said in 2016 that the vote would be to remain in the EU.

With the narrow result in that referendum and the very high dont
know percentage

what very high don't know percentage, perhaps you are refering to those that didn't vote. Because T i m has previously claimed they were remainers because they chose not to vote.



It could be that when some see the polls argree with their
choice, then those think well I don't need to vote then.

But given how poorly Corbyn currently polls, that wouldnt happen..

you might be suprised when you think of the number of resignations from the tory party, not every conservative likes Boris.


I believe this is more likely to be student mentality as I
see this with students quite often regarding course work.
Studetns want the lap open longer hours so we opened
at 8am instead of 9am while most turn up after lunch and
wonder why we aren't willing to work until 6pm or even
midnight, as some computer labs are open until 2am like
the local take-aways.

Irrelevant to Corbyn's prospects as PM.

How would you know that.

"whisky-dave" wrote in message
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On Friday, 6 September 2019 20:00:53 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Friday, 6 September 2019 11:05:59 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
"Spike" wrote in message
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On 05/09/2019 19:59, Rod Speed wrote:
Stephen Cole wrote

150,000 people have registered to vote since Monday, with the
majority
of them being young (under 45s). So, if that keeps up through the
next
few weeks, the demographics at the next (very imminent) general
election
will be somewhat more considerably left-leaning and remain-leaning
than
even in GE2017, particularly so when you factor in the €œnatural
wastage€�
of older right/leave voters. Change is coming.

It always does, but its unlikely to see that fool Corbyn as PM.

"The total number of UK parliamentary electors increased by just
over 1
million (2.3%) between December 2015 and December 2016, this partly
reflects high levels of public engagement with the EU referendum."

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...ticsforuk/2016

But the polls show that Corbyn hasnt got a hope in hell of being PM
currently.

The polls also said in 2016 that the vote would be to remain in the EU.

With the narrow result in that referendum and the very high dont
know percentage

what very high don't know percentage,

Those that said that to the pollster, stupid.

perhaps you are refering to those that didn't vote.

Nope.

It could be that when some see the polls argree with their
choice, then those think well I don't need to vote then.

But given how poorly Corbyn currently polls, that wouldnt happen.

you might be suprised

Nope.

when you think of the number of resignations from
the tory party, not every conservative likes Boris.

Separate issue entirely to how many who want Corbyn to
be PM wouldnt bother to vote because they had decided
that he is going to win. That's very unlikely with the current
poll result.

I believe this is more likely to be student mentality as I
see this with students quite often regarding course work.
Studetns want the lap open longer hours so we opened
at 8am instead of 9am while most turn up after lunch and
wonder why we aren't willing to work until 6pm or even
midnight, as some computer labs are open until 2am like
the local take-aways.

Irrelevant to Corbyn's prospects as PM.

How would you know that.

Its obvious, stupid.

On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 06:24:10 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH troll****

Its obvious, stupid.

You being a clinically insane, nym-shifting, trolling, senile asshole? Yes,
it is!

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On Monday, 9 September 2019 21:24:21 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Friday, 6 September 2019 20:00:53 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Friday, 6 September 2019 11:05:59 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
"Spike" wrote in message
...
On 05/09/2019 19:59, Rod Speed wrote:
Stephen Cole wrote

150,000 people have registered to vote since Monday, with the
majority
of them being young (under 45s). So, if that keeps up through the
next
few weeks, the demographics at the next (very imminent) general
election
will be somewhat more considerably left-leaning and remain-leaning
than
even in GE2017, particularly so when you factor in the €œnatural
wastage€�
of older right/leave voters. Change is coming.

It always does, but its unlikely to see that fool Corbyn as PM.

"The total number of UK parliamentary electors increased by just
over 1
million (2.3%) between December 2015 and December 2016, this partly
reflects high levels of public engagement with the EU referendum."

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...ticsforuk/2016

But the polls show that Corbyn hasnt got a hope in hell of being PM
currently.

The polls also said in 2016 that the vote would be to remain in the EU.

With the narrow result in that referendum and the very high dont
know percentage

what very high don't know percentage,

Those that said that to the pollster, stupid.

and when was that said on the way to the polling station or a week or month before ? and then what makes you think a person tells pollster, the truth and doesnl;t say I don;t know just to get rid of them.



perhaps you are refering to those that didn't vote.

Nope.

But if someone knew what they were going to vote for then surely they;d vote for that person party or option, why would they sit at home knowing who they'd vote for if the got up to vote.


It could be that when some see the polls argree with their
choice, then those think well I don't need to vote then.

But given how poorly Corbyn currently polls, that wouldnt happen.

you might be suprised

Nope.

That's what was said last time, and Thersa May lost out because of such estimates of Corbyn support, now even a significant number of tories don't support Boris, Boris has even less support than T. May had.


when you think of the number of resignations from
the tory party, not every conservative likes Boris.

Separate issue entirely to how many who want Corbyn to
be PM wouldnt bother to vote because they had decided
that he is going to win. That's very unlikely with the current
poll result.

Which is why they are more likely to vote for him than stay at home.