On 05/09/2019 11:43, tim... wrote:


"nightjar" wrote in message
...
On 04/09/2019 20:07, Brian Reay wrote:
...
Trying to invent some bogus insult were there clearly was none is
just nonsense.

An insult implies intent. The problem with Boris is that he seems to
do these things unconsciously, like his comments about Muslim women
wearing the burka looking like letterboxes. It shows either a lack of
awareness of his responsibilities as PM to set an example to others or
that he thinks that casual racism is the right sort of example to set.

I'm not entirely convinced that it's the role of the PM to *know* the
holiday dates of all the world's religions.

He really only needs to know, or at least check, the five or six most
widely practised in the UK.

You might have a point that civil servants should check this, but it's
almost certain that Boris didn't make this announcement after discussing
it with civil servants.Â* He simply chose the date because it's before
the EU's next meeting.

Which, in itself, is further evidence that he simply isn't up to the job.


--
Colin Bignell

"Ian Jackson" wrote in message
...

I have fond memories of being in a hotel in Tel Aviv one Saturday morning. My room was
on something like the 16th floor. I made the mistake of taking the 'Shabbat lift - the
one where the door opens and closes automatically, and it stops on every floor. It was
long, long trip.

https://tinyurl.com/y6clwojj


But surely you could have got out at the next floor, the
first floor the Shabat Lift stopped at and taken the other
lift ? Or at least at the second floor the lift stopped at,
once you realised what was going on ?

michael adams

....

"nightjar" wrote in message
news
On 05/09/2019 11:43, tim... wrote:


"nightjar" wrote in message
...
On 04/09/2019 20:07, Brian Reay wrote:
...
Trying to invent some bogus insult were there clearly was none is just
nonsense.

An insult implies intent. The problem with Boris is that he seems to do
these things unconsciously, like his comments about Muslim women wearing
the burka looking like letterboxes. It shows either a lack of awareness
of his responsibilities as PM to set an example to others or that he
thinks that casual racism is the right sort of example to set.

I'm not entirely convinced that it's the role of the PM to *know* the
holiday dates of all the world's religions.

He really only needs to know, or at least check, the five or six most
widely practised in the UK.

You might have a point that civil servants should check this, but it's
almost certain that Boris didn't make this announcement after discussing
it with civil servants. He simply chose the date because it's before the
EU's next meeting.

Which, in itself, is further evidence that he simply isn't up to the job.

Thats bull**** when its so trivial to adjust the date when someone
points out a downside with a particular choice of date.

On 06/09/2019 09:15, michael adams wrote:
"Ian Jackson" wrote in message
...

I have fond memories of being in a hotel in Tel Aviv one Saturday morning. My room was
on something like the 16th floor. I made the mistake of taking the 'Shabbat lift - the
one where the door opens and closes automatically, and it stops on every floor. It was
long, long trip.

https://tinyurl.com/y6clwojj


But surely you could have got out at the next floor, the
first floor the Shabat Lift stopped at and taken the other
lift ? Or at least at the second floor the lift stopped at,
once you realised what was going on ?

michael adams

...



Ian is a masochist ...

In message , michael
adams writes

"Ian Jackson" wrote in message
...

I have fond memories of being in a hotel in Tel Aviv one Saturday
morning. My room was
on something like the 16th floor. I made the mistake of taking the
'Shabbat lift - the
one where the door opens and closes automatically, and it stops on
every floor. It was
long, long trip.

https://tinyurl.com/y6clwojj


But surely you could have got out at the next floor, the
first floor the Shabat Lift stopped at and taken the other
lift ? Or at least at the second floor the lift stopped at,
once you realised what was going on ?

michael adams

Yes - but it's only after stopping on several floors that you realise
something odd is happening, and by then it's a toss-up whether it would
be better to get out and wait to for the other (remaining) non-Shabbat
lift (which might be pretty busy), or simply stick it out where you are.
As the saying goes, "A bird in the hand etc etc"!
--
Ian

On 06/09/2019 09:14, nightjar wrote:
On 05/09/2019 11:43, tim... wrote:


"nightjar" wrote in message
...
On 04/09/2019 20:07, Brian Reay wrote:
...
Trying to invent some bogus insult were there clearly was none is
just nonsense.

An insult implies intent. The problem with Boris is that he seems to
do these things unconsciously, like his comments about Muslim women
wearing the burka looking like letterboxes. It shows either a lack of
awareness of his responsibilities as PM to set an example to others
or that he thinks that casual racism is the right sort of example to
set.

I'm not entirely convinced that it's the role of the PM to *know* the
holiday dates of all the world's religions.

He really only needs to know, or at least check, the five or six most
widely practised in the UK.

You might have a point that civil servants should check this, but it's
almost certain that Boris didn't make this announcement after
discussing it with civil servants.Â* He simply chose the date because
it's before the EU's next meeting.

Which, in itself, is further evidence that he simply isn't up to the job.


really, this is the worst sort of barrel scrapings.


--
Climate Change: Socialism wearing a lab coat.

In message , Jim GM4DHJ ...
writes
On 06/09/2019 09:15, michael adams wrote:
"Ian Jackson" wrote in message
...

I have fond memories of being in a hotel in Tel Aviv one Saturday
morning. My room was
on something like the 16th floor. I made the mistake of taking the
'Shabbat lift - the
one where the door opens and closes automatically, and it stops on
every floor. It was
long, long trip.

https://tinyurl.com/y6clwojj
But surely you could have got out at the next floor, the
first floor the Shabat Lift stopped at and taken the other
lift ? Or at least at the second floor the lift stopped at,
once you realised what was going on ?
michael adams
...

Ian is a masochist ...

Yes - hit me with your rhythm stick.
--
Ian

On 06/09/2019 10:11, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Jim GM4DHJ ...
writes
On 06/09/2019 09:15, michael adams wrote:
"Ian Jackson" wrote in message
...

I have fond memories of being in a hotel in Tel Aviv one Saturday
morning. My room was
on something like the 16th floor. I made the mistake of taking the
'Shabbat lift - the
one where the door opens and closes automatically, and it stops on
every floor. It was
long, long trip.

https://tinyurl.com/y6clwojj
Â* But surely you could have got out at the next floor, the
first floor the Shabat Lift stopped at and taken the other
lift ? Or at least at the second floor the lift stopped at,
once you realised what was going on ?
Â*michael adams
Â*...

Ian is a masochist ...

Yes - hit me with your rhythm stick.
bona

On 06/09/2019 10:10, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , michael
adams writes

"Ian Jackson" wrote in message
...

I have fond memories of being in a hotel in Tel Aviv one Saturday
morning. My room was
on something like the 16th floor. I made the mistake of taking the
'Shabbat lift - the
one where the door opens and closes automatically, and it stops on
every floor. It was
long, long trip.

https://tinyurl.com/y6clwojj


But surely you could have got out at the next floor, the
first floor the Shabat Lift stopped at and taken the other
lift ? Or at least at the second floor the lift stopped at,
once you realised what was going on ?

michael adams

Yes - but it's only after stopping on several floors that you realise
something odd is happening, and by then it's a toss-up whether it would
be better to get out and wait to for the other (remaining) non-Shabbat
lift (which might be pretty busy), or simply stick it out where you are.
As the saying goes, "A bird in the hand etc etc"!
same as some wee ******* of a wean comes in and pushes all the buttons
for every floor ....

On Fri, 6 Sep 2019 18:21:40 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


Which, in itself, is further evidence that he simply isn't up to the job.

That¢s bull****

It isn't, you ****ed up 85-year-old senile bull**** artist!

--
addressing nym-shifting senile Rodent:
"You on the other hand are a heavyweight bull****ter who demonstrates
your particular prowess at it every day."
MID:

"nightjar" wrote in message
news
On 05/09/2019 11:43, tim... wrote:


"nightjar" wrote in message
...
On 04/09/2019 20:07, Brian Reay wrote:
...
Trying to invent some bogus insult were there clearly was none is just
nonsense.

An insult implies intent. The problem with Boris is that he seems to do
these things unconsciously, like his comments about Muslim women wearing
the burka looking like letterboxes. It shows either a lack of awareness
of his responsibilities as PM to set an example to others or that he
thinks that casual racism is the right sort of example to set.

I'm not entirely convinced that it's the role of the PM to *know* the
holiday dates of all the world's religions.

He really only needs to know, or at least check, the five or six most
widely practised in the UK.

You might have a point that civil servants should check this, but it's
almost certain that Boris didn't make this announcement after discussing
it with civil servants. He simply chose the date because it's before the
EU's next meeting.

Which, in itself, is further evidence that he simply isn't up to the job.

Oh come on

you can't really expect anyone who's elevated to the highest job in the land
to be fully prepared about all the nuances of the role

that would be a real waste of time for the 999 out of 1000 who fail to get
there, to spend time mugging up on beforehand wouldn't it

You're just prejudiced by the fact that you don't like his policies

tim

"michael adams" mjadams25@ukonline wrote in message
news

"Ian Jackson" wrote in message
...

I have fond memories of being in a hotel in Tel Aviv one Saturday
morning. My room was on something like the 16th floor. I made the mistake
of taking the 'Shabbat lift - the one where the door opens and closes
automatically, and it stops on every floor. It was long, long trip.

https://tinyurl.com/y6clwojj


But surely you could have got out at the next floor, the
first floor the Shabat Lift stopped at and taken the other
lift ? Or at least at the second floor the lift stopped at,
once you realised what was going on ?

Tee He!

I thought that

tim

tim... wrote:


"Rod Speed" wrote in message
...


"tim..." wrote in message
...


"nightjar" wrote in message
news On 03/09/2019 20:06, michael adams wrote:
"nightjar" wrote in message
...
On 03/09/2019 17:12, Stephen Cole wrote:
I was watching the Commons this afternoon and was genuinely
surprised to
see just how badly Boris was performing; shifty, evasive, bumbling,
stumbling, totally lost more often than not. About on a par with
Theresa
May on her bad days. What's more, he looked terrified at points,
like he's
just realising for the first time that he's not actually remotely
competent
for the job. LOL!

So, the forthcoming General Election campaign is going to be
quite the
spectacle as we see the real Boris Johnson exposed and crushed.
It's going
to be great!...

Well, he won't get the devout Jewish vote, unless he moves the date
away from the startÂ* of a religious festival that would stop them
from voting.

Er,

quote

" People who will not be able to vote on the chosen day
can register to vote by post or via a proxy vote.

Applications to vote by post must be received by 17:00 BST
on 26 September, for those not already registered to vote.

Proxy voting - where another registered voter votes on another's
behalf -
must be applied for at least six working days before election day, in
England, Scotland or Wales."

/quote

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49561792

So that's Margaret Hodge sorted, at least.

I got the impression that the main objection was that he hadn't
taken the Jewish population into account when setting the date,

how many non-Jews have even heard of this holiday (let alone know
when it is)

Or that there is one day when they arent allowed to write;

There isn't one day, there are lots of days

Just most of them are Saturdays (technically from sunset on Friday to
sunset on Saturday)

Even driving counts as working

Presumably cooking also, so perhaps they have to eat pre-prepared food
on the day

I wonder if opening the fridge door is also disallowed :-)

tim


We just bought a new fridge which has something called a 'Sabbath Mode'.
I've only skimmed the details in the manual; but it seems to be mostly
there for disabling the alarms and displays. I believe it is German
(although no doubt made in China), so there may be a heightened
sensitivity about such things.

On Thursday, 5 September 2019 17:29:46 UTC+1, michael adams wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Thursday, 5 September 2019 16:23:27 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
nightjar wrote:
I'm far more concerned about Corbyn and his supporters anti-Semitic
policies.

I would agree, but that doesn't excuse Boris getting it wrong.

Could someone explain to me Corbyn's anti-jewish policies? Can't say I've
heard much about them. Unless you mean a degree of support for Palestine.

I'm sure there may well be some anti-semites in the Labour party. But I'd
be most surprised if there weren't a larger percentage in the Tory party.

Yes I agree and that margret hodge complained about his
anti-semitimus a bit rich, but he did stop her from selling
off a jewish cemetery to a private land owner to build houses
on.
And from what I've been told she was leader of a council when
there was a child sex scandel which she know about but ignored.

...


Between 1982 and 1992 "Red" Margaret Hodge was the leader of the
London Borough of Islington A.K.A "the Peoples Republic of Islington"*
with a red flag flying over the town Hall. Corbyn was the local MP.
Despite Islington being a total shambles under her leadership, Hodge
subsequently tried to blame Corbyn for not having intervened.

Hodge subsequently did a sharp right turn under Tony whereas Corbyn
stuck to the principles Hodge had previously espoused.

Well princibles are one thing but.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Hodge

Child abuse controversy
The end of Hodge's service on Islington council, prior to her entering Parliament, was marred by the emergence of serious child abuse allegations concerning Council-run children's homes in Islington.[17] She apologised several times since the emergence of the scandal in the 80s that directly linked her council tenure with what she admitted in 2014 was "shameful naivety" in ignoring the complaints of paedophile victims.



michael adams

...


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/educatio...-factfile.html
Sorry its the Telegraph but this is all a matter of public record even
if some people nowadays are very careful of their more easily accessible
online reputation.

...

On 2019-09-06, michael adams mjadams25@ukonline wrote:

"Ian Jackson" wrote in message
...

I have fond memories of being in a hotel in Tel Aviv one Saturday morning. My room was
on something like the 16th floor. I made the mistake of taking the 'Shabbat lift - the
one where the door opens and closes automatically, and it stops on every floor. It was
long, long trip.

https://tinyurl.com/y6clwojj


But surely you could have got out at the next floor, the
first floor the Shabat Lift stopped at and taken the other
lift ? Or at least at the second floor the lift stopped at,
once you realised what was going on ?

He strikes me as the kind of person who gets out of his car when it's in the
carwash.

In message , Incubus
writes
On 2019-09-06, michael adams mjadams25@ukonline wrote:

"Ian Jackson" wrote in message
...

I have fond memories of being in a hotel in Tel Aviv one Saturday
morning. My room was
on something like the 16th floor. I made the mistake of taking the
'Shabbat lift - the
one where the door opens and closes automatically, and it stops on
every floor. It was
long, long trip.

https://tinyurl.com/y6clwojj


But surely you could have got out at the next floor, the
first floor the Shabat Lift stopped at and taken the other
lift ? Or at least at the second floor the lift stopped at,
once you realised what was going on ?

He strikes me as the kind of person who gets out of his car when it's in the
carwash.

It takes one hell of a stretch of vivid imagination to link a Shabbat
Lift and a Car Wash - but respect for doing so!
--
Ian

On 2019-09-06, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Incubus
writes
On 2019-09-06, michael adams mjadams25@ukonline wrote:

"Ian Jackson" wrote in message
...

I have fond memories of being in a hotel in Tel Aviv one Saturday
morning. My room was
on something like the 16th floor. I made the mistake of taking the
'Shabbat lift - the
one where the door opens and closes automatically, and it stops on
every floor. It was
long, long trip.

https://tinyurl.com/y6clwojj


But surely you could have got out at the next floor, the
first floor the Shabat Lift stopped at and taken the other
lift ? Or at least at the second floor the lift stopped at,
once you realised what was going on ?

He strikes me as the kind of person who gets out of his car when it's in the
carwash.

It takes one hell of a stretch of vivid imagination to link a Shabbat
Lift and a Car Wash - but respect for doing so!

It takes one hell of a lack of imagination to stay in a lift that it calling at
each floor instead of transferring to one that goes directly. Perhaps a better
analogy would be that you'd have left the sunroof open.

In message , Incubus
writes
On 2019-09-06, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Incubus
writes
On 2019-09-06, michael adams mjadams25@ukonline wrote:

"Ian Jackson" wrote in message
...

I have fond memories of being in a hotel in Tel Aviv one Saturday
morning. My room was
on something like the 16th floor. I made the mistake of taking the
'Shabbat lift - the
one where the door opens and closes automatically, and it stops on
every floor. It was
long, long trip.

https://tinyurl.com/y6clwojj


But surely you could have got out at the next floor, the
first floor the Shabat Lift stopped at and taken the other
lift ? Or at least at the second floor the lift stopped at,
once you realised what was going on ?

He strikes me as the kind of person who gets out of his car when it's in the
carwash.

It takes one hell of a stretch of vivid imagination to link a Shabbat
Lift and a Car Wash - but respect for doing so!

It takes one hell of a lack of imagination to stay in a lift that it calling at
each floor instead of transferring to one that goes directly. Perhaps a better
analogy would be that you'd have left the sunroof open.

I'm not sure that sunroofs are much-used in Israel. The sun's too hot.
You're more likely to have the A/C on, and all the windows closed.
--
Ian

On 6 Sep 2019, Incubus wrote
(in article ):

On 2019-09-06, michael adamsmjadams25@ukonline wrote:

"Ian Jackson" wrote in message
...

I have fond memories of being in a hotel in Tel Aviv one Saturday morning.
My room was
on something like the 16th floor. I made the mistake of taking the
'Shabbat lift - the
one where the door opens and closes automatically, and it stops on every
floor. It was
long, long trip.

https://tinyurl.com/y6clwojj


But surely you could have got out at the next floor, the
first floor the Shabat Lift stopped at and taken the other
lift ? Or at least at the second floor the lift stopped at,
once you realised what was going on ?

He strikes me as the kind of person who gets out of his car when it's in the
carwash.

And also the kind of person who, after listening to the tannoy on a train
platform announcing the train for *****, rushes up to a member of staff and
asks if this is the train for *****, then boards the train and asks random
passengers if this is the train for *****.

On 6 Sep 2019, Ian Jackson wrote
(in article ):

In , Incubus
writes
On 2019-09-06, Ian wrote:
In , Incubus
writes
On 2019-09-06, michael adamsmjadams25@ukonline wrote:

"Ian Jackson" wrote in message
...

I have fond memories of being in a hotel in Tel Aviv one Saturday
morning. My room was
on something like the 16th floor. I made the mistake of taking the
'Shabbat lift - the
one where the door opens and closes automatically, and it stops on
every floor. It was
long, long trip.

https://tinyurl.com/y6clwojj


But surely you could have got out at the next floor, the
first floor the Shabat Lift stopped at and taken the other
lift ? Or at least at the second floor the lift stopped at,
once you realised what was going on ?

He strikes me as the kind of person who gets out of his car when it's in
the
carwash.

It takes one hell of a stretch of vivid imagination to link a Shabbat
Lift and a Car Wash - but respect for doing so!

It takes one hell of a lack of imagination to stay in a lift that it
calling at
each floor instead of transferring to one that goes directly. Perhaps a
better
analogy would be that you'd have left the sunroof open.

I'm not sure that sunroofs are much-used in Israel. The sun's too hot.
You're

Not me. I wouldnt even think of visiting that ********.
more likely to have the A/C on, and all the windows closed.

No respect for carbon footprints, I see. That figures.

On 2019-09-06, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Incubus
writes
On 2019-09-06, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Incubus
writes
On 2019-09-06, michael adams mjadams25@ukonline wrote:

"Ian Jackson" wrote in message
...

I have fond memories of being in a hotel in Tel Aviv one Saturday
morning. My room was
on something like the 16th floor. I made the mistake of taking the
'Shabbat lift - the
one where the door opens and closes automatically, and it stops on
every floor. It was
long, long trip.

https://tinyurl.com/y6clwojj


But surely you could have got out at the next floor, the
first floor the Shabat Lift stopped at and taken the other
lift ? Or at least at the second floor the lift stopped at,
once you realised what was going on ?

He strikes me as the kind of person who gets out of his car when it's in the
carwash.

It takes one hell of a stretch of vivid imagination to link a Shabbat
Lift and a Car Wash - but respect for doing so!

It takes one hell of a lack of imagination to stay in a lift that it calling at
each floor instead of transferring to one that goes directly. Perhaps a better
analogy would be that you'd have left the sunroof open.

I'm not sure that sunroofs are much-used in Israel. The sun's too hot.
You're more likely to have the A/C on, and all the windows closed.

Do you only drive in Israel?

On 2019-09-06, Keema's Nan wrote:
On 6 Sep 2019, Incubus wrote
(in article ):

On 2019-09-06, michael adamsmjadams25@ukonline wrote:

"Ian Jackson" wrote in message
...

I have fond memories of being in a hotel in Tel Aviv one Saturday morning.
My room was
on something like the 16th floor. I made the mistake of taking the
'Shabbat lift - the
one where the door opens and closes automatically, and it stops on every
floor. It was
long, long trip.

https://tinyurl.com/y6clwojj


But surely you could have got out at the next floor, the
first floor the Shabat Lift stopped at and taken the other
lift ? Or at least at the second floor the lift stopped at,
once you realised what was going on ?

He strikes me as the kind of person who gets out of his car when it's in the
carwash.

And also the kind of person who, after listening to the tannoy on a train
platform announcing the train for *****, rushes up to a member of staff and
asks if this is the train for *****, then boards the train and asks random
passengers if this is the train for *****.

I love it when that kind of person waits while other people read the display
that confirms the train's destination. Perhaps they never learned such a
skill.

In message .com,
Keema's Nan writes
On 6 Sep 2019, Incubus wrote
(in article ):

On 2019-09-06, michael adamsmjadams25@ukonline wrote:

"Ian Jackson" wrote in message
...

I have fond memories of being in a hotel in Tel Aviv one Saturday
morning.
My room was
on something like the 16th floor. I made the mistake of taking the
'Shabbat lift - the
one where the door opens and closes automatically, and it stops on every
floor. It was
long, long trip.

https://tinyurl.com/y6clwojj


But surely you could have got out at the next floor, the
first floor the Shabat Lift stopped at and taken the other
lift ? Or at least at the second floor the lift stopped at,
once you realised what was going on ?

He strikes me as the kind of person who gets out of his car when it's in the
carwash.

And also the kind of person who, after listening to the tannoy on a train
platform announcing the train for *****, rushes up to a member of staff and
asks if this is the train for *****, then boards the train and asks random
passengers if this is the train for *****.

To be sure, I fail to see the connection - but I suppose if Brexiteers
believe there is a connection between the EU and (say) foodbanks, this
shouldn't really surprise me.
--
Ian

On 6 Sep 2019, Incubus wrote
(in article ):

On 2019-09-06, Keema's wrote:
On 6 Sep 2019, Incubus wrote
(in article ):

On 2019-09-06, michael adamsmjadams25@ukonline wrote:

"Ian Jackson" wrote in message
...

I have fond memories of being in a hotel in Tel Aviv one Saturday
morning.
My room was
on something like the 16th floor. I made the mistake of taking the
'Shabbat lift - the
one where the door opens and closes automatically, and it stops on every
floor. It was
long, long trip.

https://tinyurl.com/y6clwojj


But surely you could have got out at the next floor, the
first floor the Shabat Lift stopped at and taken the other
lift ? Or at least at the second floor the lift stopped at,
once you realised what was going on ?

He strikes me as the kind of person who gets out of his car when it's in
the
carwash.

And also the kind of person who, after listening to the tannoy on a train
platform announcing the train for *****, rushes up to a member of staff and
asks if this is the train for *****, then boards the train and asks random
passengers if this is the train for *****.

I love it when that kind of person waits while other people read the display
that confirms the train's destination. Perhaps they never learned such a
skill.

You can also judge the more obnoxious middle aged people on trains, because
after boarding and finding a seat they will sit down and then say
€œAaaahhhh€� as they have done so.

Time to find another carriage.

On 2019-09-06, Keema's Nan wrote:
On 6 Sep 2019, Incubus wrote
(in article ):

On 2019-09-06, Keema's wrote:
On 6 Sep 2019, Incubus wrote
(in article ):

On 2019-09-06, michael adamsmjadams25@ukonline wrote:

"Ian Jackson" wrote in message
...

I have fond memories of being in a hotel in Tel Aviv one Saturday
morning.
My room was
on something like the 16th floor. I made the mistake of taking the
'Shabbat lift - the
one where the door opens and closes automatically, and it stops on every
floor. It was
long, long trip.

https://tinyurl.com/y6clwojj


But surely you could have got out at the next floor, the
first floor the Shabat Lift stopped at and taken the other
lift ? Or at least at the second floor the lift stopped at,
once you realised what was going on ?

He strikes me as the kind of person who gets out of his car when it's in
the
carwash.

And also the kind of person who, after listening to the tannoy on a train
platform announcing the train for *****, rushes up to a member of staff and
asks if this is the train for *****, then boards the train and asks random
passengers if this is the train for *****.

I love it when that kind of person waits while other people read the display
that confirms the train's destination. Perhaps they never learned such a
skill.

You can also judge the more obnoxious middle aged people on trains, because
after boarding and finding a seat they will sit down and then say
€œAaaahhhh€� as they have done so.

Yes, it is as though they have endured something awful finding their way onto a
train. Still, I'd rather be among them than the generic urban type who thinks
listening to music on loudspeaker is appropriate, or the slobs who put their
feet on seats.

On Friday, 6 September 2019 14:22:03 UTC+1, Incubus wrote:
On 2019-09-06, Keema's Nan wrote:
On 6 Sep 2019, Incubus wrote
(in article ):

On 2019-09-06, michael adamsmjadams25@ukonline wrote:

"Ian Jackson" wrote in message
...

I have fond memories of being in a hotel in Tel Aviv one Saturday morning.
My room was
on something like the 16th floor. I made the mistake of taking the
'Shabbat lift - the
one where the door opens and closes automatically, and it stops on every
floor. It was
long, long trip.

https://tinyurl.com/y6clwojj


But surely you could have got out at the next floor, the
first floor the Shabat Lift stopped at and taken the other
lift ? Or at least at the second floor the lift stopped at,
once you realised what was going on ?

He strikes me as the kind of person who gets out of his car when it's in the
carwash.

And also the kind of person who, after listening to the tannoy on a train
platform announcing the train for *****, rushes up to a member of staff and
asks if this is the train for *****, then boards the train and asks random
passengers if this is the train for *****.

I love it when that kind of person waits while other people read the display
that confirms the train's destination. Perhaps they never learned such a
skill.

every month or so I get someone rushing on the the central line tube and asks me if this is going to X or Y I usally have no idea as I'm only concerned with the two stops of my journey where it goes after I get off I don't care and therefor don't check.
Perhaps I should ask them ? did you listen to the staion annoucnements, or look at the front of the train or look at the arrival/destination boards, because that's what I'd do.

In article ,
charles wrote:
In article , The Natural Philosopher
wrote:
On 05/09/2019 09:26, nightjar wrote:
On 04/09/2019 20:07, Brian Reay wrote: ...
Trying to invent some bogus insult were there clearly was none is
just nonsense.

An insult implies intent. The problem with Boris is that he seems to
do these things unconsciously, like his comments about Muslim women
wearing the burka looking like letterboxes. It shows either a lack
of awareness of his responsibilities as PM to set an example to
others or that he thinks that casual racism is the right sort of
example to set.


But They DO look like letterboxes.

I've never seen a black letterbox.

Of course Boris has blue eyes, so very likely a colour vision problem.
Except when it comes to skin.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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"Incubus" wrote in message
...
On 2019-09-06, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Incubus
writes
On 2019-09-06, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Incubus
writes
On 2019-09-06, michael adams mjadams25@ukonline wrote:

"Ian Jackson" wrote in message
...

I have fond memories of being in a hotel in Tel Aviv one Saturday
morning. My room was
on something like the 16th floor. I made the mistake of taking the
'Shabbat lift - the
one where the door opens and closes automatically, and it stops on
every floor. It was
long, long trip.

https://tinyurl.com/y6clwojj


But surely you could have got out at the next floor, the
first floor the Shabat Lift stopped at and taken the other
lift ? Or at least at the second floor the lift stopped at,
once you realised what was going on ?

He strikes me as the kind of person who gets out of his car when it's
in the
carwash.

It takes one hell of a stretch of vivid imagination to link a Shabbat
Lift and a Car Wash - but respect for doing so!

It takes one hell of a lack of imagination to stay in a lift that it
calling at
each floor instead of transferring to one that goes directly. Perhaps a
better
analogy would be that you'd have left the sunroof open.

I'm not sure that sunroofs are much-used in Israel. The sun's too hot.
You're more likely to have the A/C on, and all the windows closed.

Do you only drive in Israel?

no, you're allowed to walk as we

or catch the bus (except on the Sabbath)

tim

On 06/09/2019 12:25, tim... wrote:
....
you can't really expect anyone who's elevated to the highest job in the
land to be fully prepared about all the nuances of the role

Why not? He has spent years trying to get the job. He should have spent
that time learning everything there is to know about it.

You're just prejudiced by the fact that you don't like his policies

Not in the least. If he was doing the job well, I would admire him for
it, even if I disagree with what he is trying to do. However, all he
does, time and time again, is to prove that he really isn't competent at
anything except promoting Boris.


--
Colin Bignell

"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...

every month or so I get someone rushing on the the central line tube and asks me
if this is going to X or Y I usally have no idea as I'm only concerned with the two
stops of my journey where it goes after I get off I don't care

In which case they have no need to ask as they can get on any train
read the destination on the onboard display and get off at the next stop
if necessary.

My stop which is largely out of doors serves Heathrow Airport.
Terminals 1,2,3, 4 Terminal 4 only, maybe Terminal 5 as well.
The next stop down the line is mainly undercover as are all the
stations after Hounslow Central. If they are locals going to the
Airport then they should know better.If they are tourists then
they'll have already passed these covered stations on their
inward journey,

This doesn't however stop large numbers of them patiently waiting
in the rain until the "right" train comes along.


michael adams

....

On 06/09/2019 14:15, Keema's Nan wrote:
On 6 Sep 2019, Incubus wrote
(in article ):

On 2019-09-06, michael adamsmjadams25@ukonline wrote:

"Ian Jackson" wrote in message
...

I have fond memories of being in a hotel in Tel Aviv one Saturday morning.
My room was
on something like the 16th floor. I made the mistake of taking the
'Shabbat lift - the
one where the door opens and closes automatically, and it stops on every
floor. It was
long, long trip.

https://tinyurl.com/y6clwojj


But surely you could have got out at the next floor, the
first floor the Shabat Lift stopped at and taken the other
lift ? Or at least at the second floor the lift stopped at,
once you realised what was going on ?

He strikes me as the kind of person who gets out of his car when it's in the
carwash.

And also the kind of person who, after listening to the tannoy on a train
platform announcing the train for *****, rushes up to a member of staff and
asks if this is the train for *****, then boards the train and asks random
passengers if this is the train for *****.


You read Bill Bryson.

On 06/09/2019 15:05, Incubus wrote:
You can also judge the more obnoxious middle aged people on trains, because
after boarding and finding a seat they will sit down and then say
€œAaaahhhh€� as they have done so.

Yes, it is as though they have endured something awful finding their way onto a
train.

They have.

Still, I'd rather be among them than the generic urban type who thinks
listening to music on loudspeaker is appropriate, or the slobs who put their
feet on seats.


--
€œThe fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that
the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt."

- Bertrand Russell

nightjar wrote
tim... wrote

you can't really expect anyone who's elevated to the highest job in the
land to be fully prepared about all the nuances of the role

Why not?

Because it makes no sense to try and get across all that
fine detail as PM. Thats what the civil service is there for,
particularly when its so trivial to adjust the date when
someone points out some downside with the initial date.

He has spent years trying to get the job. He should have spent that time
learning everything there is to know about it.

Even sillier than you usually manage and thats saying something.

You're just prejudiced by the fact that you don't like his policies

Not in the least.

Corse you are.

If he was doing the job well, I would admire him for it, even if I
disagree with what he is trying to do.

But you have remarkably silly ideas about what the PM's job involves.

That date stuff is the job of the civil service, not the PM personally.

However, all he does, time and time again, is to prove that he really
isn't competent at anything except promoting Boris.

He did manage to get to be PM, more than you have ever managed.

"michael adams" wrote in message
...

"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...

every month or so I get someone rushing on the the central line tube and
asks me
if this is going to X or Y I usally have no idea as I'm only concerned
with the two
stops of my journey where it goes after I get off I don't care

In which case they have no need to ask as they can get on any train read
the destination on the onboard display and get off at the next stop if
necessary.

Stupid way to do things. Makes a lot more sense to
work out if it’s the right train before getting on it.

On Sat, 7 Sep 2019 15:36:36 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


Why not?

Because

NOBODY asked you anything, you trolling piece of senile ****!

--
Website (from 2007) dedicated to the 85-year-old trolling senile
cretin from Oz:
https://www.pcreview.co.uk/threads/r...d-faq.2973853/

On Sat, 7 Sep 2019 15:41:22 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


In which case they have no need to ask as they can get on any train read
the destination on the onboard display and get off at the next stop if
necessary.

Stupid way to do things.

Strange that people don't always ask YOU first how to do things, eh, you
senile asshole troll from Oz.

--
Website (from 2007) dedicated to the 85-year-old trolling senile
cretin from Oz:
https://www.pcreview.co.uk/threads/r...d-faq.2973853/

In article ,
dennis@home wrote:
On 05/09/2019 09:34, Stephen Cole wrote:
nightjar wrote:
On 04/09/2019 20:07, Brian Reay wrote:
...
Trying to invent some bogus insult were there clearly was none is just
nonsense.

An insult implies intent. The problem with Boris is that he seems to
do these things unconsciously, like his comments about Muslim women
wearing the burka looking like letterboxes. It shows either a lack of
awareness of his responsibilities as PM to set an example to others
or that he thinks that casual racism is the right sort of example to
set.


With Brian recently describing Jewish culture as ”nonsense•, it‘s no
surprise to see him quite comfortable with Boris‘ casual racism.


Name a religion that isn't nonsense!

Religions ain't nonsense. Up to the individual on whether they believe in
any form of 'higher power', and there's a compelling case to do so.

What is a nonsense is when a man controlled religion - as all are - seeks
to impose its values on others.

But what is equally as bad is the religion of Brexiteers - seeking to
impose their views on others.

--
*I speak fluent patriarchy but it's not my mother tongue

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On 07/09/2019 13:11, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
dennis@home wrote:
On 05/09/2019 09:34, Stephen Cole wrote:
nightjar wrote:
On 04/09/2019 20:07, Brian Reay wrote:
...
Trying to invent some bogus insult were there clearly was none is just
nonsense.

An insult implies intent. The problem with Boris is that he seems to
do these things unconsciously, like his comments about Muslim women
wearing the burka looking like letterboxes. It shows either a lack of
awareness of his responsibilities as PM to set an example to others
or that he thinks that casual racism is the right sort of example to
set.


With Brian recently describing Jewish culture as €�nonsense€¢, it€˜s no
surprise to see him quite comfortable with Boris€˜ casual racism.


Name a religion that isn't nonsense!

Religions ain't nonsense. Up to the individual on whether they believe in
any form of 'higher power', and there's a compelling case to do so.

What is a nonsense is when a man controlled religion - as all are - seeks
to impose its values on others.

But what is equally as bad is the religion of Brexiteers - seeking to
impose their views on others.



Yes, but we had GOD on our side, he saw to it we had a million and a
half votes more than the Remainers!

omega

In article ,
Omega wrote:
But what is equally as bad is the religion of Brexiteers - seeking to
impose their views on others.



Yes, but we had GOD on our side, he saw to it we had a million and a
half votes more than the Remainers!

Your god appears rather lacking in power. A decent one would have given
you a big majority of those entitled to vote. Lets say all those who voted
voting leave. Very very few would argue about 2/3rds of those entitled to
vote being in favour or whatever.

--
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Dave Plowman London SW
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On 7 Sep 2019, Dave Plowman (News) wrote
(in article ):

In ,
Omega wrote:
But what is equally as bad is the religion of Brexiteers - seeking to
impose their views on others.

Yes, but we had GOD on our side, he saw to it we had a million and a
half votes more than the Remainers!

Your god appears rather lacking in power. A decent one would have given
you a big majority of those entitled to vote. Lets say all those who voted
voting leave. Very very few would argue about 2/3rds of those entitled to
vote being in favour or whatever.

And if you had a decent honest remain god, it would have said €œOk, we lost.
Lets do the gentlemanly thing and let the winners have their way€�.

Brexiteers are still waiting for the virtue signalling, holier than thou,
sanctimonious remainers to defer to a democratic majority.