On 05/09/2019 09:34, Stephen Cole wrote:
nightjar wrote:
On 04/09/2019 20:07, Brian Reay wrote:
...
Trying to invent some bogus insult were there clearly was none is just
nonsense.

An insult implies intent. The problem with Boris is that he seems to do
these things unconsciously, like his comments about Muslim women wearing
the burka looking like letterboxes. It shows either a lack of awareness
of his responsibilities as PM to set an example to others or that he
thinks that casual racism is the right sort of example to set.


With Brian recently describing Jewish culture as €œnonsense€�, its no
surprise to see him quite comfortable with Boris casual racism.


Name a religion that isn't nonsense!

On 05/09/2019 11:08, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 05/09/2019 09:26, nightjar wrote:
On 04/09/2019 20:07, Brian Reay wrote:
...
Trying to invent some bogus insult were there clearly was none is
just nonsense.

An insult implies intent. The problem with Boris is that he seems to
do these things unconsciously, like his comments about Muslim women
wearing the burka looking like letterboxes. It shows either a lack of
awareness of his responsibilities as PM to set an example to others or
that he thinks that casual racism is the right sort of example to set.


But They DO look like letterboxes.

Specsavers

"nightjar" wrote in message
...
On 04/09/2019 20:07, Brian Reay wrote:
...
Trying to invent some bogus insult were there clearly was none is just
nonsense.

An insult implies intent. The problem with Boris is that he seems to do
these things unconsciously, like his comments about Muslim women wearing
the burka looking like letterboxes. It shows either a lack of awareness of
his responsibilities as PM to set an example to others or that he thinks
that casual racism is the right sort of example to set.

I'm not entirely convinced that it's the role of the PM to *know* the
holiday dates of all the world's religions.

You might have a point that civil servants should check this, but it's
almost certain that Boris didn't make this announcement after discussing it
with civil servants. He simply chose the date because it's before the EU's
next meeting.

tim

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
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On 04/09/2019 17:34, nightjar wrote:
On 04/09/2019 12:58, tim... wrote:


"nightjar" wrote in message
news
...
I got the impression that the main objection was that he hadn't taken
the Jewish population into account when setting the date,

how many non-Jews have even heard of this holiday (let alone know when
it is)

Nor had I, but if you are running the country, you, or at least your
civil servants, ought to know about the impact of a decision on all the
major religions practised in it.


Is Juadaism a major religion these days in Britain?



Religion in Great Britain (2011 census)
Christianity (59.5%)

as there is no separate Catholic value, presumably that's included within
the Christianity set.

Does that mean Orthodox is also inside the Christianity set, because they
have different holidays to other Christians

tim

"dennis@home" wrote in message
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On 04/09/2019 20:20, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
"Stephen Cole" wrote in message
...
Brian Kampf wrote:
On 04/09/2019 17:34, nightjar wrote:
On 04/09/2019 12:58, tim... wrote:


"nightjar" wrote in message
news ...
I got the impression that the main objection was that he hadn't
taken
the Jewish population into account when setting the date,

how many non-Jews have even heard of this holiday (let alone know
when
it is)

Nor had I, but if you are running the country, you, or at least your
civil servants, ought to know about the impact of a decision on all
the
major religions practised in it.



0.4% of the population are Jewish.

Even as someone with a Jewish heritage I consider your point nonsense.

I'm far more concerned about Corbyn and his supporters anti-Semitic
policies.

It's kinda amazing to see you wave away as "nonsense" the cultural and
religious sensibilities of several hundred thousand British citizens,
Brian.

jews do that....



There are people stupid enough to leave the ovens on from the previous day
as switching it on is work. How putting the food in and shutting the door
isn't work I don't have a clue.

Basically all religious people have a problem, they believe what they are
told without thinking.

They are also told that their beliefs makes then superior to anyone
without those beliefs which is why you should never let any religion get
control, it will result in suffering.




all religion is made up by man and is a fairy story......and dangerous

"dennis@home" wrote in message
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On 05/09/2019 09:34, Stephen Cole wrote:
nightjar wrote:
On 04/09/2019 20:07, Brian Reay wrote:
...
Trying to invent some bogus insult were there clearly was none is just
nonsense.

An insult implies intent. The problem with Boris is that he seems to do
these things unconsciously, like his comments about Muslim women wearing
the burka looking like letterboxes. It shows either a lack of awareness
of his responsibilities as PM to set an example to others or that he
thinks that casual racism is the right sort of example to set.


With Brian recently describing Jewish culture as "nonsense", it's no
surprise to see him quite comfortable with Boris' casual racism.


Name a religion that isn't nonsense!

none

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...
On 05/09/2019 09:26, nightjar wrote:
On 04/09/2019 20:07, Brian Reay wrote:
...
Trying to invent some bogus insult were there clearly was none is just
nonsense.

An insult implies intent. The problem with Boris is that he seems to do
these things unconsciously, like his comments about Muslim women wearing
the burka looking like letterboxes. It shows either a lack of awareness
of his responsibilities as PM to set an example to others or that he
thinks that casual racism is the right sort of example to set.


But They DO look like letterboxes.

Is the truth now to be witheld because someone claims to find it
insulting?


they look like pints of Guinness .....

"Rod Speed" wrote in message
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"tim..." wrote in message
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"nightjar" wrote in message
news
On 03/09/2019 20:06, michael adams wrote:
"nightjar" wrote in message
...
On 03/09/2019 17:12, Stephen Cole wrote:
I was watching the Commons this afternoon and was genuinely surprised
to
see just how badly Boris was performing; shifty, evasive, bumbling,
stumbling, totally lost more often than not. About on a par with
Theresa
May on her bad days. What's more, he looked terrified at points, like
he's
just realising for the first time that he's not actually remotely
competent
for the job. LOL!

So, the forthcoming General Election campaign is going to be quite
the
spectacle as we see the real Boris Johnson exposed and crushed. It's
going
to be great!...

Well, he won't get the devout Jewish vote, unless he moves the date
away from the start of a religious festival that would stop them
from voting.

Er,

quote

" People who will not be able to vote on the chosen day
can register to vote by post or via a proxy vote.

Applications to vote by post must be received by 17:00 BST
on 26 September, for those not already registered to vote.

Proxy voting - where another registered voter votes on another's
behalf -
must be applied for at least six working days before election day, in
England, Scotland or Wales."

/quote

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49561792

So that's Margaret Hodge sorted, at least.

I got the impression that the main objection was that he hadn't taken
the Jewish population into account when setting the date,

how many non-Jews have even heard of this holiday (let alone know when it
is)

Or that there is one day when they arent allowed to write;

There isn't one day, there are lots of days

Just most of them are Saturdays (technically from sunset on Friday to sunset
on Saturday)

Even driving counts as working

Presumably cooking also, so perhaps they have to eat pre-prepared food on
the day

I wonder if opening the fridge door is also disallowed :-)

tim

On 05/09/2019 11:36, charles wrote:
In article , The Natural Philosopher
wrote:
On 05/09/2019 09:26, nightjar wrote:
On 04/09/2019 20:07, Brian Reay wrote: ...
Trying to invent some bogus insult were there clearly was none is just
nonsense.

An insult implies intent. The problem with Boris is that he seems to do
these things unconsciously, like his comments about Muslim women
wearing the burka looking like letterboxes. It shows either a lack of
awareness of his responsibilities as PM to set an example to others or
that he thinks that casual racism is the right sort of example to set.


But They DO look like letterboxes.

I've never seen a black letterbox.

Really? How odd.

google returmns half a billion hits for 'black letterboxes'

However that of course is illerelvant.

If I were to say "a condom looks like a giant pink tranbslucent
lightbulb, when inflated" it would not be invalidated by your saying
that you had never seen a giant pink translucent lightbulb...

--
€œA leader is best When people barely know he exists. Of a good leader,
who talks little,When his work is done, his aim fulfilled,They will say,
€œWe did this ourselves.€�

ۥ Lao Tzu, Tao Te Ching

In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 05/09/2019 11:36, charles wrote:
In article , The Natural Philosopher
wrote:
On 05/09/2019 09:26, nightjar wrote:
On 04/09/2019 20:07, Brian Reay wrote: ...
Trying to invent some bogus insult were there clearly was none is just
nonsense.

An insult implies intent. The problem with Boris is that he seems to do
these things unconsciously, like his comments about Muslim women
wearing the burka looking like letterboxes. It shows either a lack of
awareness of his responsibilities as PM to set an example to others or
that he thinks that casual racism is the right sort of example to set.


But They DO look like letterboxes.

I've never seen a black letterbox.

Really? How odd.

google returmns half a billion hits for 'black letterboxes'

However that of course is illerelvant.

If I were to say "a condom looks like a giant pink tranbslucent
lightbulb, when inflated" it would not be invalidated by your saying
that you had never seen a giant pink translucent lightbulb...

Letter boxes in the UK are red

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

On Thursday, 5 September 2019 11:37:55 UTC+1, charles wrote:
In article , The Natural Philosopher
wrote:
On 05/09/2019 09:26, nightjar wrote:
On 04/09/2019 20:07, Brian Reay wrote: ...
Trying to invent some bogus insult were there clearly was none is just
nonsense.

An insult implies intent. The problem with Boris is that he seems to do
these things unconsciously, like his comments about Muslim women
wearing the burka looking like letterboxes. It shows either a lack of
awareness of his responsibilities as PM to set an example to others or
that he thinks that casual racism is the right sort of example to set.


But They DO look like letterboxes.

I've never seen a black letterbox.

fill your boots

https://www.google.com/search?q=blac...w=1453&bih=747


And I thought the blackbox flight recorders were orange or red.

On Thursday, 5 September 2019 11:38:49 UTC+1, dennis@home wrote:

They are also told that their beliefs makes then superior to anyone
without those beliefs which is why you should never let any religion get
control, it will result in suffering.

Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering :- Yoda

No wonder 0.7% of UK said they were jedi.

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...
On 05/09/2019 09:26, nightjar wrote:
On 04/09/2019 20:07, Brian Reay wrote:
...
Trying to invent some bogus insult were there clearly was none is just nonsense.

An insult implies intent. The problem with Boris is that he seems to do these things
unconsciously, like his comments about Muslim women wearing the burka looking like
letterboxes. It shows either a lack of awareness of his responsibilities as PM to set
an example to others or that he thinks that casual racism is the right sort of example
to set.


But They DO look like letterboxes.

Is the truth now to be witheld because someone claims to find it insulting?

a) he made the comment before becoming P.M

c) He intended it as a joke. Which was, and is, actually quite funny.

Its totally unacceptable for people who become Prime Minister of the
UK to have made jokes in the past which are actually funny.

Its the old story. Everyone loves people who are very good at one thing.
Once a person tries to, or succeeds in doing two things well they start being
resented. Everyone knows that when Boris's political career goes tits up
he'll revert back to the journalism and clowning. Along with the bigger pension.

Its surprising nobody from Liverpool has spoken up yet. He must have
said something highly offensive to them, at one point or other.


michael adams

....








--
Truth welcomes investigation because truth knows investigation will lead to converts.
It is deception that uses all the other techniques.

"charles" wrote in message
...
But They DO look like letterboxes.

I've never seen a black letterbox.

Really? How odd.

google returmns half a billion hits for 'black letterboxes'

Letter boxes in the UK are red

That's pillar boxes (and similar rectangular ones on poles or set into
walls). The phrase "letter box" is confusing because it can relate both to
places in the street where you post a letter at the beginning of its
journey, and the slot in your front door where the postman puts the letter
when he delivers it to you at the end of its journey.

The latter can be whatever colour you want - typically a colour that doesn't
clash with the colour of your front door. I've seen plenty of black ones -
ours was black power-coated metal.

In article , NY wrote:
"charles" wrote in message
...
But They DO look like letterboxes.

I've never seen a black letterbox.

Really? How odd.

google returmns half a billion hits for 'black letterboxes'

Letter boxes in the UK are red

That's pillar boxes (and similar rectangular ones on poles or set into
walls). The phrase "letter box" is confusing because it can relate both
to places in the street where you post a letter at the beginning of its
journey, and the slot in your front door where the postman puts the
letter when he delivers it to you at the end of its journey.

and that version of Letter Box usually has a closed flap.

The latter can be whatever colour you want - typically a colour that
doesn't clash with the colour of your front door. I've seen plenty of
black ones - ours was black power-coated metal.

I don't see anyone in a Burka loking like a front door.

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

"charles" wrote in message
...
In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 05/09/2019 11:36, charles wrote:
In article , The Natural Philosopher
wrote:
On 05/09/2019 09:26, nightjar wrote:
On 04/09/2019 20:07, Brian Reay wrote: ...
Trying to invent some bogus insult were there clearly was none is just
nonsense.

An insult implies intent. The problem with Boris is that he seems to do
these things unconsciously, like his comments about Muslim women
wearing the burka looking like letterboxes. It shows either a lack of
awareness of his responsibilities as PM to set an example to others or
that he thinks that casual racism is the right sort of example to set.


But They DO look like letterboxes.

I've never seen a black letterbox.

Really? How odd.

google returmns half a billion hits for 'black letterboxes'

However that of course is illerelvant.

If I were to say "a condom looks like a giant pink tranbslucent
lightbulb, when inflated" it would not be invalidated by your saying
that you had never seen a giant pink translucent lightbulb...

Letter boxes in the UK are red


Pillar boxes in the UK are red.

Letter boxes can be of any colour.

Boris was implying pillar boxes which was comedic
licence on his part.

Boris may be a power crazed buffoon set on destroying the economy
of the UK in pursuit of his pereveted ambition but that doesn't mean
that he can't also be deliberately funny.

Which can't be said of the power crazed buffoon on the other
side of the pond.


michael adams

....

On 05/09/2019 12:05, charles wrote:
In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 05/09/2019 11:36, charles wrote:
In article , The Natural Philosopher
wrote:
On 05/09/2019 09:26, nightjar wrote:
On 04/09/2019 20:07, Brian Reay wrote: ...
Trying to invent some bogus insult were there clearly was none is just
nonsense.

An insult implies intent. The problem with Boris is that he seems to do
these things unconsciously, like his comments about Muslim women
wearing the burka looking like letterboxes. It shows either a lack of
awareness of his responsibilities as PM to set an example to others or
that he thinks that casual racism is the right sort of example to set.


But They DO look like letterboxes.

I've never seen a black letterbox.

Really? How odd.

google returmns half a billion hits for 'black letterboxes'

However that of course is illerelvant.

If I were to say "a condom looks like a giant pink tranbslucent
lightbulb, when inflated" it would not be invalidated by your saying
that you had never seen a giant pink translucent lightbulb...

Letter boxes in the UK are red

I have a black one.

They come in all colours and flavours.

Brass, red, yellow, green, silver, gold.



--
"Corbyn talks about equality, justice, opportunity, health care, peace,
community, compassion, investment, security, housing...."
"What kind of person is not interested in those things?"

"Jeremy Corbyn?"

On 05/09/2019 12:32, NY wrote:
"charles" wrote in message
...
But They DO look like letterboxes.

I've never seen a black letterbox.

Really? How odd.

google returmns half a billion hits for 'black letterboxes'

Letter boxes in the UK are red

That's pillar boxes (and similar rectangular ones on poles or set into
walls). The phrase "letter box" is confusing because it can relate both
to places in the street where you post a letter at the beginning of its
journey, and the slot in your front door where the postman puts the
letter when he delivers it to you at the end of its journey.

Public post boxes are not always red either.

The latter can be whatever colour you want - typically a colour that
doesn't clash with the colour of your front door. I've seen plenty of
black ones - ours was black power-coated metal.


--
"Corbyn talks about equality, justice, opportunity, health care, peace,
community, compassion, investment, security, housing...."
"What kind of person is not interested in those things?"

"Jeremy Corbyn?"

On 05/09/2019 12:45, charles wrote:
In article , NY wrote:
"charles" wrote in message
...
But They DO look like letterboxes.

I've never seen a black letterbox.

Really? How odd.

google returmns half a billion hits for 'black letterboxes'

Letter boxes in the UK are red

That's pillar boxes (and similar rectangular ones on poles or set into
walls). The phrase "letter box" is confusing because it can relate both
to places in the street where you post a letter at the beginning of its
journey, and the slot in your front door where the postman puts the
letter when he delivers it to you at the end of its journey.

and that version of Letter Box usually has a closed flap.

The latter can be whatever colour you want - typically a colour that
doesn't clash with the colour of your front door. I've seen plenty of
black ones - ours was black power-coated metal.

I don't see anyone in a Burka loking like a front door.

They all look like front doors to me



--
If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will
eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such
time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic
and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally
important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for
the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the
truth is the greatest enemy of the State.

Joseph Goebbels

"dennis@home" wrote in message
...

Basically all religious people have a problem, they believe what they are told without
thinking.

They are also told that their beliefs makes then superior to anyone without those
beliefs which is why you should never let any religion get control, it will result in
suffering.

The Quakers don't believe any of those things.

Which is why people mostly associate them with porridge and chocolate.


michael adams

....

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...

I have a black one.

On Thursday, 5 September 2019 13:22:33 UTC+1, michael adams wrote:
"dennis@home" wrote in message
...

Basically all religious people have a problem, they believe what they are told without
thinking.

They are also told that their beliefs makes then superior to anyone without those
beliefs which is why you should never let any religion get control, it will result in
suffering.

The Quakers don't believe any of those things.

Which is why people mostly associate them with porridge and chocolate.

I associated them with rambling (walking activity) and not liking alcohol as we had a head of department that was a quaker and he wouldn't allow alcohol even at staff leaving parties or christmas parties.



michael adams

...

In message , Jim GM4DHJ ...
writes

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...
On 05/09/2019 09:26, nightjar wrote:
On 04/09/2019 20:07, Brian Reay wrote:
...
Trying to invent some bogus insult were there clearly was none is just
nonsense.

An insult implies intent. The problem with Boris is that he seems to do
these things unconsciously, like his comments about Muslim women wearing
the burka looking like letterboxes. It shows either a lack of awareness
of his responsibilities as PM to set an example to others or that he
thinks that casual racism is the right sort of example to set.


But They DO look like letterboxes.

Is the truth now to be witheld because someone claims to find it
insulting?


they look like pints of Guinness .....

A colleague who had spent some time working in the Middle East said they
were joking referred to as Guinness bottles.
--
Ian

In article ,
nightjar wrote:
I'm far more concerned about Corbyn and his supporters anti-Semitic
policies.

I would agree, but that doesn't excuse Boris getting it wrong.

Could someone explain to me Corbyn's anti-jewish policies? Can't say I've
heard much about them. Unless you mean a degree of support for Palestine.

I'm sure there may well be some anti-semites in the Labour party. But I'd
be most surprised if there weren't a larger percentage in the Tory party.

--
*Windows will never cease *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In article ,
Ian Jackson wrote:
Not quite. If you read the link, it's the first two days when work is
forbidden, and that's sundown on the 13th to nightfall on the 15th.
Moving the dates leaves about three hours of voting time on the 15th.

But in Israel, it's only the first day (the 13th) when work is forbidden
- so it seems that the rules are 'flexible'.

Wonder who keeps all the essential services running on that day?

--
*The only difference between a rut and a grave is the depth.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
An insult implies intent. The problem with Boris is that he seems to
do these things unconsciously, like his comments about Muslim women
wearing the burka looking like letterboxes. It shows either a lack of
awareness of his responsibilities as PM to set an example to others
or that he thinks that casual racism is the right sort of example to
set.


But They DO look like letterboxes.

Didn't realise we could add colour blind to all your ailments.

--
*Ambition is a poor excuse for not having enough sense to be lazy *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Ian Jackson wrote:
Not quite. If you read the link, it's the first two days when work is
forbidden, and that's sundown on the 13th to nightfall on the 15th.
Moving the dates leaves about three hours of voting time on the 15th.

But in Israel, it's only the first day (the 13th) when work is forbidden
- so it seems that the rules are 'flexible'.

Wonder who keeps all the essential services running on that day?

Probably the 20% of the population who aren't Jewish or the
4.8% who are no longer practising Jews. If Muslim holy days
coincided with Jewish holy days (which I haven't actually
checked ) then quite possibly they really would be in the
****.


michael adams

....

On Thursday, 5 September 2019 16:23:27 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
nightjar wrote:
I'm far more concerned about Corbyn and his supporters anti-Semitic
policies.

I would agree, but that doesn't excuse Boris getting it wrong.

Could someone explain to me Corbyn's anti-jewish policies? Can't say I've
heard much about them. Unless you mean a degree of support for Palestine.

I'm sure there may well be some anti-semites in the Labour party. But I'd
be most surprised if there weren't a larger percentage in the Tory party.

Yes I agree and that margret hodge complained about his anti-semitimus a bit rich, but he did stop her from selling off a jewish cemetery to a private land owner to build houses on. And from what I've been told she was leader of a council when there was a child sex scandel which she know about but ignored.

"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Thursday, 5 September 2019 16:23:27 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
nightjar wrote:
I'm far more concerned about Corbyn and his supporters anti-Semitic
policies.

I would agree, but that doesn't excuse Boris getting it wrong.

Could someone explain to me Corbyn's anti-jewish policies? Can't say I've
heard much about them. Unless you mean a degree of support for Palestine.

I'm sure there may well be some anti-semites in the Labour party. But I'd
be most surprised if there weren't a larger percentage in the Tory party.

Yes I agree and that margret hodge complained about his
anti-semitimus a bit rich, but he did stop her from selling
off a jewish cemetery to a private land owner to build houses
on.
And from what I've been told she was leader of a council when
there was a child sex scandel which she know about but ignored.

....


Between 1982 and 1992 "Red" Margaret Hodge was the leader of the
London Borough of Islington A.K.A "the Peoples Republic of Islington"*
with a red flag flying over the town Hall. Corbyn was the local MP.
Despite Islington being a total shambles under her leadership, Hodge
subsequently tried to blame Corbyn for not having intervened.

Hodge subsequently did a sharp right turn under Tony whereas Corbyn
stuck to the principles Hodge had previously espoused.


michael adams

....


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/educatio...-factfile.html
Sorry its the Telegraph but this is all a matter of public record even
if some people nowadays are very careful of their more easily accessible
online reputation.

....

nightjar wrote
Brian Reay wrote

Trying to invent some bogus insult were there clearly was none is just
nonsense.

An insult implies intent. The problem with Boris is that he seems to do
these things unconsciously, like his comments about Muslim women wearing
the burka looking like letterboxes.

He's got one hell of a capacity to grab people's attention
and that did him no harm when running for mayor, twice.

Bet once the brexit **** fight is over, it will do him no harm as PM either.

It shows either a lack of awareness of his responsibilities as PM to set
an example to others

He's never operated like that.

or that he thinks that casual racism

It isnt casual racism. He actually has a moslem great grandfather, a Turk.

is the right sort of example to set.

He has never been into setting examples.

"nightjar" wrote in message
...
On 04/09/2019 18:30, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 04/09/2019 17:34, nightjar wrote:
On 04/09/2019 12:58, tim... wrote:


"nightjar" wrote in message
news ...
I got the impression that the main objection was that he hadn't taken
the Jewish population into account when setting the date,

how many non-Jews have even heard of this holiday (let alone know when
it is)

Nor had I, but if you are running the country, you, or at least your
civil servants, ought to know about the impact of a decision on all the
major religions practised in it.


Is Juadaism a major religion these days in Britain?



Religion in Great Britain (2011 census)
Christianity (59.5%)
No religion (25.7%)
Islam (4.4%)
Hinduism (1.3%)
Sikhism (0.7%)
Judaism (0.4%)
Buddhism (0.4%)
Other religions (0.4%)
Not stated (7.2%)

That makes it the fifth most followed religion in the UK, which is
probably a good reason to put it among the major religions.

However, unlike the number of Christians, it is most likely an accurate
estimate of those actively following Judaism. On the basis of active
followers, according to a recent survey, there are about 15 active
followers of Christianity to every follower of Judaism. That would make it
even more of a major religion in the UK.

With only about 6% of the UK population actively Christian, you could ask,
if we ignore Jewish festivals because of the numbers, why do we observe
Christmas and Easter as a nation?

Basically because of the massive uproar it would cause
if it was proposed those be binned.

Same with the bank holiday, even tho few actually worship banks.

On Fri, 6 Sep 2019 05:44:28 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:



He's got one hell of a capacity to grab people's attention
and that did him no harm when running for mayor, twice.

Yep, STUPID people like you, senile Rodent, who can't see through his
ridiculous show!

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On Fri, 6 Sep 2019 05:49:19 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


Basically

Basically, it's ALL none of yours, senile Ozzie cretin!

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Message-ID:

"dennis@home" wrote in message
...
On 04/09/2019 20:20, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
"Stephen Cole" wrote in message
...
Brian Kampf wrote:
On 04/09/2019 17:34, nightjar wrote:
On 04/09/2019 12:58, tim... wrote:


"nightjar" wrote in message
news ...
I got the impression that the main objection was that he hadn't
taken
the Jewish population into account when setting the date,

how many non-Jews have even heard of this holiday (let alone know
when
it is)

Nor had I, but if you are running the country, you, or at least your
civil servants, ought to know about the impact of a decision on all
the
major religions practised in it.



0.4% of the population are Jewish.

Even as someone with a Jewish heritage I consider your point nonsense.

I'm far more concerned about Corbyn and his supporters anti-Semitic
policies.

It's kinda amazing to see you wave away as "nonsense" the cultural and
religious sensibilities of several hundred thousand British citizens,
Brian.

jews do that....



There are people stupid enough to leave the ovens on from the previous day
as switching it on is work. How putting the food in and shutting the door
isn't work I don't have a clue.

Basically all religious people have a problem, they believe what they are
told without thinking.

Not all religious people operate like that.

They are also told that their beliefs makes then superior to anyone
without those beliefs which is why you should never let any religion get
control, it will result in suffering.

Not always.

"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
...

"dennis@home" wrote in message
...
On 04/09/2019 20:20, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
"Stephen Cole" wrote in message
...
Brian Kampf wrote:
On 04/09/2019 17:34, nightjar wrote:
On 04/09/2019 12:58, tim... wrote:


"nightjar" wrote in message
news ...
I got the impression that the main objection was that he hadn't
taken
the Jewish population into account when setting the date,

how many non-Jews have even heard of this holiday (let alone know
when
it is)

Nor had I, but if you are running the country, you, or at least your
civil servants, ought to know about the impact of a decision on all
the
major religions practised in it.



0.4% of the population are Jewish.

Even as someone with a Jewish heritage I consider your point nonsense.

I'm far more concerned about Corbyn and his supporters anti-Semitic
policies.

It's kinda amazing to see you wave away as "nonsense" the cultural and
religious sensibilities of several hundred thousand British citizens,
Brian.

jews do that....



There are people stupid enough to leave the ovens on from the previous
day as switching it on is work. How putting the food in and shutting the
door isn't work I don't have a clue.

Basically all religious people have a problem, they believe what they are
told without thinking.

They are also told that their beliefs makes then superior to anyone
without those beliefs which is why you should never let any religion get
control, it will result in suffering.

all religion is made up by man and is a fairy story......

Yes.

and dangerous

Not always.

On Fri, 6 Sep 2019 07:00:37 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


all religion is made up by man and is a fairy story......

Yes.

and dangerous

Not always.

If someone wanted a stupid monkey's opinion, they'd have rattled your chain,
senile Rodent!

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On Fri, 6 Sep 2019 06:58:52 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


Not

LOL Auto-contradicting senile asshole!

Not always.

LOL Auto-contradicting senile asshole!

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and criminality is inherited after all?"
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"michael adams" mjadams25@ukonline wrote in message
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
Ian Jackson wrote:
Not quite. If you read the link, it's the first two days when work is
forbidden, and that's sundown on the 13th to nightfall on the 15th.
Moving the dates leaves about three hours of voting time on the 15th.

But in Israel, it's only the first day (the 13th) when work is forbidden
- so it seems that the rules are 'flexible'.

Wonder who keeps all the essential services running on that day?

Probably the 20% of the population who aren't Jewish or the
4.8% who are no longer practising Jews. If Muslim holy days
coincided with Jewish holy days (which I haven't actually
checked ) then quite possibly they really would be in the
****.

Nope, because the moslems arent actually stupid enough to ban working on
their holy days.

On Fri, 6 Sep 2019 08:50:53 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


Nope

LOL Did you just get another one of your tiny senile online orgasms, you
auto-contradicting senile trolling idiot?

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In message , tim...
writes


"Rod Speed" wrote in message
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"tim..." wrote in message
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"nightjar" wrote in message
newssSdnaCqKqPYH_LAnZ2dnUU78ePNnZ2d@giganews. com...
On 03/09/2019 20:06, michael adams wrote:
"nightjar" wrote in message
...
On 03/09/2019 17:12, Stephen Cole wrote:
I was watching the Commons this afternoon and was genuinely
surprised to
see just how badly Boris was performing; shifty, evasive, bumbling,
stumbling, totally lost more often than not. About on a par with
Theresa
May on her bad days. What's more, he looked terrified at points,
like he's
just realising for the first time that he's not actually
remotely competent
for the job. LOL!

So, the forthcoming General Election campaign is going to be
quite the
spectacle as we see the real Boris Johnson exposed and crushed.
It's going
to be great!...

Well, he won't get the devout Jewish vote, unless he moves the date
away from the start of a religious festival that would stop them
from voting.

Er,

quote

" People who will not be able to vote on the chosen day
can register to vote by post or via a proxy vote.

Applications to vote by post must be received by 17:00 BST
on 26 September, for those not already registered to vote.

Proxy voting - where another registered voter votes on another's
behalf -
must be applied for at least six working days before election day, in
England, Scotland or Wales."

/quote

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49561792

So that's Margaret Hodge sorted, at least.

I got the impression that the main objection was that he hadn't
taken the Jewish population into account when setting the date,

how many non-Jews have even heard of this holiday (let alone know
when it is)

Or that there is one day when they arent allowed to write;

There isn't one day, there are lots of days

Just most of them are Saturdays (technically from sunset on Friday to
sunset on Saturday)

Even driving counts as working

Presumably cooking also, so perhaps they have to eat pre-prepared food
on the day

I wonder if opening the fridge door is also disallowed :-)

Only if nobody's looking.

I have fond memories of being in a hotel in Tel Aviv one Saturday
morning. My room was on something like the 16th floor. I made the
mistake of taking the 'Shabbat lift - the one where the door opens and
closes automatically, and it stops on every floor. It was long, long
trip.
https://tinyurl.com/y6clwojj





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