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bob February 23rd 04 11:03 PM

Damp proof course for garden wall
 
I am getting a local brickie to build a garden wall using LBC 'heathers',
about 2m high and half-brick wide, with piers every 2m or so. The question
is - do I need a DPC, if so then what form should it take? Most brickies who
have quoted say that a DPC is not necessary for a garden wall, although one
recommended a DPC in the form of 2 rows of engineering bricks. I am
replacing a similar wall, built 25 years ago, which has a kind of mineral
bitumen sheet DPC - this seems a bad choice as the DPC is the weak point in
the wall (indeed some sections of this wall can be pushed over with a big
shove).

TIA, Bob



Mike Taylor February 24th 04 07:40 AM

Damp proof course for garden wall
 
It is not necessary to put a DPC in a garden wall but totally agree with
your comment that if you do decide to put one then use a couple of courses
of engineering bricks. I dont agree thopigh with your choice of bricks. LBC
heathers have a susceptability to spalling in frost so to me they are a no
no for a garden wall



N. Thornton February 24th 04 08:49 AM

Damp proof course for garden wall
 
"bob" wrote in message m...
I am getting a local brickie to build a garden wall using LBC 'heathers',
about 2m high and half-brick wide, with piers every 2m or so. The question
is - do I need a DPC, if so then what form should it take? Most brickies who
have quoted say that a DPC is not necessary for a garden wall, although one
recommended a DPC in the form of 2 rows of engineering bricks. I am
replacing a similar wall, built 25 years ago, which has a kind of mineral
bitumen sheet DPC - this seems a bad choice as the DPC is the weak point in
the wall (indeed some sections of this wall can be pushed over with a big
shove).

TIA, Bob


A felt DPC was a bad idea, sounds like it has made the wall dangerous.
I would think a DPC would keep the wall in better condition, even if
its not essential.

Regards, NT

Peter Taylor February 24th 04 09:14 AM

Damp proof course for garden wall
 
bob wrote
I am getting a local brickie to build a garden wall using LBC 'heathers',
about 2m high and half-brick wide, with piers every 2m or so. The question
is - do I need a DPC, if so then what form should it take? Most brickies who
have quoted say that a DPC is not necessary for a garden wall, although one
recommended a DPC in the form of 2 rows of engineering bricks. I am
replacing a similar wall, built 25 years ago, which has a kind of mineral
bitumen sheet DPC - this seems a bad choice as the DPC is the weak point in
the wall (indeed some sections of this wall can be pushed over with a big
shove).

TIA, Bob


Hi Bob. What concerns me is that LBC sand-faced Flettons are cheap quality and
very easily damaged by frost. The drier you can keep the brickwork the better,
so I think your bricklayer who suggested a couple of courses of engineering
bricks is right. But also the top of the wall needs protection in the form of a
coping of some description - I would suggest more engineering bricks or maybe
roofing tiles. Precast concrete might be cheaper but looks terrible IMO.

A normal DPC would add a slight weakness, but IMO your wall will be very
unstable anyway, especially if it's exposed to strong winds. If you have the
space, it would be much better to have buttressing walls rather than piers, say
600 long at the bottom. Alternatively a much more stable design than piers is
build it like this (on plan)::

____|ŻŻŻŻ|____|ŻŻŻŻ|____ 220mm thick overall
2m 2m 2m 2m 2m


Peter


Meoww February 24th 04 12:38 PM

Damp proof course for garden wall
 
"bob" wrote in message m...
I am getting a local brickie to build a garden wall using LBC 'heathers',
about 2m high and half-brick wide, with piers every 2m or so. The question
is - do I need a DPC, if so then what form should it take? Most brickies who
have quoted say that a DPC is not necessary for a garden wall, although one
recommended a DPC in the form of 2 rows of engineering bricks. I am
replacing a similar wall, built 25 years ago, which has a kind of mineral
bitumen sheet DPC - this seems a bad choice as the DPC is the weak point in
the wall (indeed some sections of this wall can be pushed over with a big
shove).

TIA, Bob


Hi Bob

Have a look at this website. Around about the fifth article then down
to the end as regards choice of class a or b engineering bricks

HTH

Patrick


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