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Just through where is your Internet traffic being routed?
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On Tuesday, 16 July 2019 08:43:40 UTC+1, Gareth's was W7 now W10 Downstairs Computer wrote:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-48990724 "So, for example, if a user typed in a web address whose domain name had previously been linked to illegal activity - eg dodgysite.com -" I thought I'd check ... dodgysite.com is up for sale at $2295. I wonder if it has been linked to illegal activity and, if not, if the owner now has a claim for defamation against the BBC. Owain |
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On 16/07/2019 09:52, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , Gareth's was W7 now W10 Downstairs Computer wrote: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-48990724 What exactly are you asking? I am asking just through where is your Internet traffic being routed? |
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On 16/07/2019 12:44, Gareth's was W7 now W10 Downstairs Computer wrote:
On 16/07/2019 09:52, Tim Streater wrote: In article , Gareth's was W7 now W10 Downstairs Computer wrote: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-48990724 What exactly are you asking? I am asking just through where is your Internet traffic being routed? Well it goes from my router to a DSLAM in my local exchanbge, and then its muplixed down some opticak fibre into NTS core ATM network and persent to my IDPs intercae in some dark oiffice, and thnce by a lot more fibre to wherever it needs to ago changing constantly as links go up and down. -- Renewable energy: Expensive solutions that don't work to a problem that doesn't exist instituted by self legalising protection rackets that don't protect, masquerading as public servants who don't serve the public. |
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On 16/07/2019 13:04, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , Gareth's was W7 now W10 Downstairs Computer wrote: On 16/07/2019 09:52, Tim Streater wrote: In article , Gareth's was W7 now W10 Downstairs Computer wrote: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-48990724 What exactly are you asking? I am asking just through where is your Internet traffic being routed? You don't have any control over that. It will depend what arrangements your ISP has made with others and with other, global, networks. Once the traffic leaves your ISP's network that's the last it sees of it or knows of it. And what more any responses are likely to come back via an entirely different route. You hand off at the earliest possible opportunity on to a foreign network in the sure certainty that they will do exactly the same to you. -- Renewable energy: Expensive solutions that don't work to a problem that doesn't exist instituted by self legalising protection rackets that don't protect, masquerading as public servants who don't serve the public. |
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On Tuesday, 16 July 2019 08:43:40 UTC+1, Gareth's was W7 now W10 Downstairs Computer wrote: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-48990724 "So, for example, if a user typed in a web address whose domain name had previously been linked to illegal activity - eg dodgysite.com -" I thought I'd check ... dodgysite.com is up for sale at $2295. I wonder if it has been linked to illegal activity and, if not, if the owner now has a claim for defamation against the BBC. Owain In the absence of some unexpected double meaning, I doubt a judge will be easily convinced that suggesting something will live up to its name is defamation. -- Roger Hayter |
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On 16/07/2019 08:43, Gareth's was W7 now W10 Downstairs Computer wrote:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-48990724 Hmmm, I am not sure they should revel stuff like that. |
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On 16/07/2019 17:08, dennis@home wrote:
On 16/07/2019 08:43, Gareth's was W7 now W10 Downstairs Computer wrote: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-48990724 Hmmm, I am not sure they should revel stuff like that. The only reason for governmental secrets is to protect the private interests of those who ride the gravy train and the existence of such secrets works against the interests of the people and their democracy. The term National Security can best be understood with reference to the following sentence ... I visited a farmyard recently and the national security came half way up the wellies. |
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On 16/07/2019 13:04, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , Gareth's was W7 now W10 Downstairs Computer wrote: On 16/07/2019 09:52, Tim Streater wrote: In article , Gareth's was W7 now W10 Downstairs Computer wrote: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-48990724 What exactly are you asking? I am asking just through where is your Internet traffic being routed? You don't have any control over that. It will depend what arrangements your ISP has made with others and with other, global, networks. Once the traffic leaves your ISP's network that's the last it sees of it or knows of it. I have a good idea but trace route won't tell you. |
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On Tuesday, 16 July 2019 18:57:55 UTC+1, dennis@home wrote:
On 16/07/2019 13:04, Tim Streater wrote: In article , Gareth's was W7 now W10 Downstairs Computer wrote: On 16/07/2019 09:52, Tim Streater wrote: In article , Gareth's was W7 now W10 Downstairs Computer wrote: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-48990724 What exactly are you asking? I am asking just through where is your Internet traffic being routed? You don't have any control over that. It will depend what arrangements your ISP has made with others and with other, global, networks. Once the traffic leaves your ISP's network that's the last it sees of it or knows of it. I have a good idea but trace route won't tell you. Running namebench on the Alexa dataset will tell you a lot. John |
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That does not compute try using different words or a new way to express the
meaning. Alexa cannot answer you current question, sorry. Brian -- ----- -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "Gareth's was W7 now W10 Downstairs Computer" wrote in message ... On 16/07/2019 09:52, Tim Streater wrote: In article , Gareth's was W7 now W10 Downstairs Computer wrote: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-48990724 What exactly are you asking? I am asking just through where is your Internet traffic being routed? |
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One of my cow-orkers claims that because he used a proxy / vpn, even his isp cant tell what sites he is visiting.
This seemed a little far fetched, but now I am wondering if it is correct?? |
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On Wednesday, 17 July 2019 11:32:52 UTC+1, Brian Gaff wrote:
That does not compute try using different words or a new way to express the meaning. Alexa cannot answer you current question, sorry. Alexa probably gets confused when you ask about the other Alexa! Try using google instead. Namebench is a tool for analysing DNS servers and Alexa is a list of the most popular web sites. A common way of using Namebench is to ask it to test the Alexa list. By comparing the results you obtain from your service provider with the "correct" answers you will discover to what extent your internet service is being filtered by DNS poisoning (or protection, depending on your point of view). John |
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On 17/07/2019 12:05, wrote:
One of my cow-orkers claims that because he used a proxy / vpn, even his isp cant tell what sites he is visiting. This seemed a little far fetched, but now I am wondering if it is correct?? It is essentially correct. Basically you set up an encrypted channel between you and the VPN server and that does the conversations itself. the stage beyond that is onion routing, which is a network of VPN servers which pass your request around between them until one of them decides to issue a request on your behalf. IIRC there are linux distros that have it all set up and ready to use. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onion_routing -- There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact. Mark Twain |
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On Wednesday, 17 July 2019 12:05:11 UTC+1, wrote:
One of my cow-orkers claims that because he used a proxy / vpn, even his isp cant tell what sites he is visiting. This seemed a little far fetched, but now I am wondering if it is correct?? If he is using an encrypted VPN and it is set up so that DNS lookups are sent through the VPN as well as the actual browsing, then there is no way for his service provider to know what he is doing. However, this just moves the problem elsewhere. How much does he trust the VPN service provider? How likely is it that those who like to monitor things perhaps concentrate their efforts on VPN providers? He could of course set up a virtual machine in a data centre somewhere and VPN to that, but it would have to be paid for. Being untraceable is not that easy. John |
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On Wednesday, 17 July 2019 18:23:30 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
He could of course set up a virtual machine in a data centre somewhere and VPN to that, but it would have to be paid for. Its trivial. £120 a year...Less than you pay for an internet connection. The cost is trivial, but the payment process itself makes it more likely that you can be traced. Being untraceable is not that easy. Not with emails, no. With web traffic its not that hard if you really want to do it https://2019.www.torproject.org/docs...c-unix.html.en Indeed, but there are still pitfalls such as browser fingerprinting that need to be avoided. There are a few USB bootable linux distributions that make it easier to get everything right. John |
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On 17/07/2019 19:26, wrote:
On Wednesday, 17 July 2019 18:23:30 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher wrote: He could of course set up a virtual machine in a data centre somewhere and VPN to that, but it would have to be paid for. Its trivial. £120 a year...Less than you pay for an internet connection. The cost is trivial, but the payment process itself makes it more likely that you can be traced. Hence onion routing Being untraceable is not that easy. Not with emails, no. With web traffic its not that hard if you really want to do it https://2019.www.torproject.org/docs...c-unix.html.en Indeed, but there are still pitfalls such as browser fingerprinting that need to be avoided. There are a few USB bootable linux distributions that make it easier to get everything right. John -- The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. Herbert Spencer |
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On 17/07/2019 19:29, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 17/07/2019 19:26, wrote: On Wednesday, 17 July 2019 18:23:30 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher wrote: He could of course set up a virtual machine in a data centre somewhere and VPN to that, but it would have to be paid for. Its trivial. £120 a year...Less than you pay for an internet connection. The cost is trivial, but the payment process itself makes it more likely that you can be traced. Hence onion routing Why make yourself look like you are a criminal if you aren't? Its a bit like downloading films.. its not illegal to do so in the UK if you keep it to yourself.. however if you use a torrent client that uploads to others then you are leaving yourself open to being done. |
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