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tube started flashing ,,,,removed the starter works ok ....replaced the
started flashing again .....removed the new starter ok again...what is wrong...the tube?.... |
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"Jim GM4DHJ ..." Wrote in message:
tube started flashing ,,,,removed the starter works ok ....replaced the started flashing again .....removed the new starter ok again...what is wrong...the tube?.... Either the new starter is faulty or is for a lower wattage lamp. Is the one you are using described as a "universal starter"? -- Graham. %Profound_observation% ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On 09/07/2019 17:32, Graham. wrote:
"Jim GM4DHJ ..." Wrote in message: tube started flashing ,,,,removed the starter works ok ....replaced the started flashing again .....removed the new starter ok again...what is wrong...the tube?.... Either the new starter is faulty or is for a lower wattage lamp. Is the one you are using described as a "universal starter"? no.....85w |
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On 09/07/2019 18:01, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 09/07/2019 17:32, Graham. wrote: "Jim GM4DHJ ..." Wrote in message: tube started flashing ,,,,removed the starter works ok ....replaced the started flashing again .....removed the new starter ok again...what is wrong...the tube?.... Either the new starter is faulty or is for a lower wattage lamp. Is the one you are using described as a "universal starter"? no.....85w T12 florescent tube? -- Adam |
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On 09/07/2019 18:51, ARW wrote:
On 09/07/2019 18:01, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 09/07/2019 17:32, Graham. wrote: "Jim GM4DHJ ..." Wrote in message: tube started flashing ,,,,removed the starter works ok ....replaced the started flashing again .....removed the new starter ok again...what is wrong...the tube?.... Either the new starter is faulty or is for a lower wattage lamp. Is the one you are using described as a "universal starter"? no.....85w T12 florescent tube? FLUORESCENT FFS!!!! -- Of what good are dead warriors? €¦ Warriors are those who desire battle more than peace. Those who seek battle despite peace. Those who thump their spears on the ground and talk of honor. Those who leap high the battle dance and dream of glory €¦ The good of dead warriors, Mother, is that they are dead. Sheri S Tepper: The Awakeners. |
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On 09/07/2019 19:01, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 09/07/2019 18:51, ARW wrote: On 09/07/2019 18:01, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 09/07/2019 17:32, Graham. wrote: "Jim GM4DHJ ..." Wrote in message: tube started flashing ,,,,removed the starter works ok ....replaced the started flashing again .....removed the new starter ok again...what is wrong...the tube?.... Either the new starter is faulty or is for a lower wattage lamp. Is the one you are using described as a "universal starter"? no.....85w T12 florescent tube? FLUORESCENT FFS!!!! pickey pickey |
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On 09/07/2019 19:17, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 09/07/2019 19:01, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 09/07/2019 18:51, ARW wrote: On 09/07/2019 18:01, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 09/07/2019 17:32, Graham. wrote: "Jim GM4DHJ ..." Wrote in message: tube started flashing ,,,,removed the starter works ok ....replaced the started flashing again .....removed the new starter ok again...what is wrong...the tube?.... Either the new starter is faulty or is for a lower wattage lamp. Is the one you are using described as a "universal starter"? no.....85w T12 florescent tube? FLUORESCENT FFS!!!! pickey pickey I like flour .... sorry picky picky ..... |
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On 09/07/2019 19:01, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 09/07/2019 18:51, ARW wrote: On 09/07/2019 18:01, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 09/07/2019 17:32, Graham. wrote: "Jim GM4DHJ ..." Wrote in message: tube started flashing ,,,,removed the starter works ok ....replaced the started flashing again .....removed the new starter ok again...what is wrong...the tube?.... Either the new starter is faulty or is for a lower wattage lamp. Is the one you are using described as a "universal starter"? no.....85w T12 florescent tube? FLUORESCENT FFS!!!! The brain got scrambled by todays tedious job. -- Adam |
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On 09/07/2019 19:28, ARW wrote:
On 09/07/2019 19:01, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 09/07/2019 18:51, ARW wrote: On 09/07/2019 18:01, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 09/07/2019 17:32, Graham. wrote: "Jim GM4DHJ ..." Wrote in message: tube started flashing ,,,,removed the starter works ok ....replaced the started flashing again .....removed the new starter ok again...what is wrong...the tube?.... Either the new starter is faulty or is for a lower wattage lamp. Is the one you are using described as a "universal starter"? no.....85w T12 florescent tube? FLUORESCENT FFS!!!! The brain got scrambled by todays tedious job. Its not the real tnp, no typing and spelling mistakes that he is too idle to fix. |
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On Tuesday, 9 July 2019 15:27:52 UTC+1, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
tube started flashing ,,,,removed the starter works ok ....replaced the started flashing again .....removed the new starter ok again...what is wrong...the tube?.... If the tube works fine with the starter out, we know the tube is fine. Don't just give it a very quick check, let it run a good 5 mins like that. If adding the starter it then keeps flashing, we know the fault is the starter. It could be faulty or simply the wrong type. Most are 4-80 or 85w, but some are 20w max, some are 120v or series, some are 100 or 125w for 8' tubes. Check you have a suitable starter. NT |
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Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
tube started flashing ,,,,removed the starter works ok ....replaced the started flashing again .....removed the new starter ok again...what is wrong...the tube?.... What sort of cakes are you making? |
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On 10/07/2019 03:05, FMurtz wrote:
Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: tube started flashing ,,,,removed the starter works ok ....replaced the started flashing again .....removed the new starter ok again...what is wrong...the tube?.... What sort of cakes are you making? red velvet...why?... |
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wrote in message ... On Tuesday, 9 July 2019 15:27:52 UTC+1, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: tube started flashing ,,,,removed the starter works ok ....replaced the started flashing again .....removed the new starter ok again...what is wrong...the tube?.... If the tube works fine with the starter out, we know the tube is fine. Don't just give it a very quick check, let it run a good 5 mins like that. If adding the starter it then keeps flashing, we know the fault is the starter. It could be faulty or simply the wrong type. Most are 4-80 or 85w, but some are 20w max, some are 120v or series, some are 100 or 125w for 8' tubes. Check you have a suitable starter. it was the tube.....black at one end.... |
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"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message ... On 09/07/2019 17:32, Graham. wrote: "Jim GM4DHJ ..." Wrote in message: tube started flashing ,,,,removed the starter works ok ....replaced the started flashing again .....removed the new starter ok again...what is wrong...the tube?.... Either the new starter is faulty or is for a lower wattage lamp. Is the one you are using described as a "universal starter"? no.....85w sorry 4-65w |
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On 09/07/2019 19:18, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 09/07/2019 19:17, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 09/07/2019 19:01, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 09/07/2019 18:51, ARW wrote: On 09/07/2019 18:01, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 09/07/2019 17:32, Graham. wrote: "Jim GM4DHJ ..." Wrote in message: tube started flashing ,,,,removed the starter works ok ....replaced the started flashing again .....removed the new starter ok again...what is wrong...the tube?.... Either the new starter is faulty or is for a lower wattage lamp. Is the one you are using described as a "universal starter"? no.....85w T12 florescent tube? FLUORESCENT FFS!!!! pickey pickey I like flour .... sorry picky picky ..... did you buy organic flourescent tubes by mistake ?. |
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On 10/07/2019 04:59, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 09/07/2019 23:47, wrote: On Tuesday, 9 July 2019 15:27:52 UTC+1, Jim GM4DHJ ...Â* wrote: tube started flashing ,,,,removed the starter works ok ....replaced the started flashing again .....removed the new starter ok again...what is wrong...the tube?.... If the tube works fine with the starter out, we know the tube is fine. Don't just give it a very quick check, let it run a good 5 mins like that. If adding the starter it then keeps flashing, we know the fault is the starter. It could be faulty or simply the wrong type. Most are 4-80 or 85w, but some are 20w max, some are 120v or series, some are 100 or 125w for 8' tubes. Check you have a suitable starter. NT bet it is the tube...I'll change it today for an led unit ..... |
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On 10/07/2019 10:18, Andrew wrote:
On 10/07/2019 04:59, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 09/07/2019 23:47, wrote: On Tuesday, 9 July 2019 15:27:52 UTC+1, Jim GM4DHJ ...Â* wrote: tube started flashing ,,,,removed the starter works ok ....replaced the started flashing again .....removed the new starter ok again...what is wrong...the tube?.... If the tube works fine with the starter out, we know the tube is fine. Don't just give it a very quick check, let it run a good 5 mins like that. If adding the starter it then keeps flashing, we know the fault is the starter. It could be faulty or simply the wrong type. Most are 4-80 or 85w, but some are 20w max, some are 120v or series, some are 100 or 125w for 8' tubes. Check you have a suitable starter. NT bet it is the tube...I'll change it today for an led unit ..... no...got stock to use up first...love LEDs though ....got them everywhere else... |
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On 10/07/2019 10:17, Andrew wrote:
On 09/07/2019 19:18, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 09/07/2019 19:17, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 09/07/2019 19:01, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 09/07/2019 18:51, ARW wrote: On 09/07/2019 18:01, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 09/07/2019 17:32, Graham. wrote: "Jim GM4DHJ ..." Wrote in message: tube started flashing ,,,,removed the starter works ok ....replaced the started flashing again .....removed the new starter ok again...what is wrong...the tube?.... Either the new starter is faulty or is for a lower wattage lamp. Is the one you are using described as a "universal starter"? no.....85w T12 florescent tube? FLUORESCENT FFS!!!! pickey pickey I like flour .... sorry picky picky ..... did you buy organic flourescent tubes by mistake ?. had full fat ones in stock .... |
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On Wednesday, 10 July 2019 08:33:01 UTC+1, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
tabbypurr wrote in message ... On Tuesday, 9 July 2019 15:27:52 UTC+1, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: tube started flashing ,,,,removed the starter works ok ....replaced the started flashing again .....removed the new starter ok again...what is wrong...the tube?.... If the tube works fine with the starter out, we know the tube is fine. Don't just give it a very quick check, let it run a good 5 mins like that. If adding the starter it then keeps flashing, we know the fault is the starter. It could be faulty or simply the wrong type. Most are 4-80 or 85w, but some are 20w max, some are 120v or series, some are 100 or 125w for 8' tubes. Check you have a suitable starter. it was the tube.....black at one end.... then the tube did not stay lit without the starter in. NT |
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In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 09/07/2019 18:51, ARW wrote: On 09/07/2019 18:01, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 09/07/2019 17:32, Graham. wrote: "Jim GM4DHJ ..." Wrote in message: tube started flashing ,,,,removed the starter works ok ....replaced the started flashing again .....removed the new starter ok again...what is wrong...the tube?.... Either the new starter is faulty or is for a lower wattage lamp. Is the one you are using described as a "universal starter"? no.....85w T12 florescent tube? FLUORESCENT FFS!!!! Good grief. Turnip spots a spelling error. -- *When cheese gets its picture taken, what does it say? * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On 10/07/2019 08:33, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message ... On 09/07/2019 23:47, wrote: On Tuesday, 9 July 2019 15:27:52 UTC+1, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: tube started flashing ,,,,removed the starter works ok ....replaced the started flashing again .....removed the new starter ok again...what is wrong...the tube?.... If the tube works fine with the starter out, we know the tube is fine. Don't just give it a very quick check, let it run a good 5 mins like that. If adding the starter it then keeps flashing, we know the fault is the starter. It could be faulty or simply the wrong type. Most are 4-80 or 85w, but some are 20w max, some are 120v or series, some are 100 or 125w for 8' tubes. Check you have a suitable starter. NT bet it is the tube...I'll change it today it was ....had a couple in stock... BUGGER BUGGER BUGGER worked great the first time then after I put the ladder away...it is a very high ceiling in the garage....doing the same thing again.......the ballast?..... |
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Probably. The starter thinks its not struck so its probably not really
working very well, assuming of course its the right starter in the first place. This may sound daft, but simply swap it for another tube if its a double and if the other one shows the problem its proved. I even used to get a couple of months out of one by simply turning it around. No idea why. Brian -- ----- -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message ... tube started flashing ,,,,removed the starter works ok ....replaced the started flashing again .....removed the new starter ok again...what is wrong...the tube?.... |
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While you are all bickering over spellink, let me say that a tube right on
the edge of going out can be used by simply removing the starter once its been on for a bit. it seems that the tube heat can keep it conducting, but not as efficiently as it should be, indeed lamps working like this can be very strobe like and indeed sometimes you see kind of waves snaking along making parts of the phosphor brighter or darker. I guess its to do with whether the gas inside is being ionised enough to keep the thing alight, the starter system often detects tubes working inefficiently this way ands not yet struck and tries to pulse them with a high voltage but all that does is making go on and off. Change the tube before it wears out the starter! I'm assuming here this is your bog standard little heater bimetal strip wotsit. Brian -- ----- -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message ... On 09/07/2019 19:01, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 09/07/2019 18:51, ARW wrote: On 09/07/2019 18:01, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 09/07/2019 17:32, Graham. wrote: "Jim GM4DHJ ..." Wrote in message: tube started flashing ,,,,removed the starter works ok ....replaced the started flashing again .....removed the new starter ok again...what is wrong...the tube?.... Either the new starter is faulty or is for a lower wattage lamp. Is the one you are using described as a "universal starter"? no.....85w T12 florescent tube? FLUORESCENT FFS!!!! pickey pickey |
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On 10/07/2019 16:21, Brian Gaff wrote:
While you are all bickering over spellink, let me say that a tube right on the edge of going out can be used by simply removing the starter once its been on for a bit. it seems that the tube heat can keep it conducting, but not as efficiently as it should be, indeed lamps working like this can be very strobe like and indeed sometimes you see kind of waves snaking along making parts of the phosphor brighter or darker. I guess its to do with whether the gas inside is being ionised enough to keep the thing alight, the starter system often detects tubes working inefficiently this way ands not yet struck and tries to pulse them with a high voltage but all that does is making go on and off. Change the tube before it wears out the starter! I'm assuming here this is your bog standard little heater bimetal strip wotsit. Brian changed the tube and it is still doing it...but I get what you say ,...... |
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"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message ... On 10/07/2019 08:33, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: "Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message ... On 09/07/2019 23:47, wrote: On Tuesday, 9 July 2019 15:27:52 UTC+1, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: tube started flashing ,,,,removed the starter works ok ....replaced the started flashing again .....removed the new starter ok again...what is wrong...the tube?.... If the tube works fine with the starter out, we know the tube is fine. Don't just give it a very quick check, let it run a good 5 mins like that. If adding the starter it then keeps flashing, we know the fault is the starter. It could be faulty or simply the wrong type. Most are 4-80 or 85w, but some are 20w max, some are 120v or series, some are 100 or 125w for 8' tubes. Check you have a suitable starter. NT bet it is the tube...I'll change it today it was ....had a couple in stock... BUGGER BUGGER BUGGER worked great the first time then after I put the ladder away...it is a very high ceiling in the garage....doing the same thing again.......the ballast?..... tried another tube...it's working again...... |
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On Wednesday, 10 July 2019 13:03:09 UTC+1, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 10/07/2019 11:19, tabbypurr wrote: On Wednesday, 10 July 2019 08:33:01 UTC+1, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: tabbypurr wrote in message ... On Tuesday, 9 July 2019 15:27:52 UTC+1, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: tube started flashing ,,,,removed the starter works ok ....replaced the started flashing again .....removed the new starter ok again...what is wrong...the tube?.... If the tube works fine with the starter out, we know the tube is fine. Don't just give it a very quick check, let it run a good 5 mins like that. If adding the starter it then keeps flashing, we know the fault is the starter. It could be faulty or simply the wrong type. Most are 4-80 or 85w, but some are 20w max, some are 120v or series, some are 100 or 125w for 8' tubes. Check you have a suitable starter. it was the tube.....black at one end.... then the tube did not stay lit without the starter in. NT yes it did.... That's uncommon. There are 2 possible explanations. 1. poor contacts causing V drop 2. A tube where one end only is losing emission, but not enough to extinguish it. NT |
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On Wednesday, 10 July 2019 15:47:24 UTC+1, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 10/07/2019 08:33, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: "Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message ... On 09/07/2019 23:47, tabbypurr wrote: On Tuesday, 9 July 2019 15:27:52 UTC+1, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: tube started flashing ,,,,removed the starter works ok ....replaced the started flashing again .....removed the new starter ok again...what is wrong...the tube?.... If the tube works fine with the starter out, we know the tube is fine. Don't just give it a very quick check, let it run a good 5 mins like that. If adding the starter it then keeps flashing, we know the fault is the starter. It could be faulty or simply the wrong type. Most are 4-80 or 85w, but some are 20w max, some are 120v or series, some are 100 or 125w for 8' tubes. Check you have a suitable starter. NT bet it is the tube...I'll change it today it was ....had a couple in stock... BUGGER BUGGER BUGGER worked great the first time then after I put the ladder away...it is a very high ceiling in the garage....doing the same thing again.......the ballast?..... Not much point asking if you disregard the answers. |
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On 09/07/2019 20:17, dennis@home wrote:
On 09/07/2019 19:28, ARW wrote: On 09/07/2019 19:01, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 09/07/2019 18:51, ARW wrote: On 09/07/2019 18:01, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 09/07/2019 17:32, Graham. wrote: "Jim GM4DHJ ..." Wrote in message: tube started flashing ,,,,removed the starter works ok ....replaced the started flashing again .....removed the new starter ok again...what is wrong...the tube?.... Either the new starter is faulty or is for a lower wattage lamp. Is the one you are using described as a "universal starter"? no.....85w T12 florescent tube? FLUORESCENT FFS!!!! The brain got scrambled by todays tedious job. Its not the real tnp, no typing and spelling mistakes that he is too idle to fix. Pot calling kettle black did spring to mind. -- Adam |
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On 10/07/2019 15:47, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 10/07/2019 08:33, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: "Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message ... On 09/07/2019 23:47, wrote: On Tuesday, 9 July 2019 15:27:52 UTC+1, Jim GM4DHJ ...Â* wrote: tube started flashing ,,,,removed the starter works ok ....replaced the started flashing again .....removed the new starter ok again...what is wrong...the tube?.... If the tube works fine with the starter out, we know the tube is fine. Don't just give it a very quick check, let it run a good 5 mins like that. If adding the starter it then keeps flashing, we know the fault is the starter. It could be faulty or simply the wrong type. Most are 4-80 or 85w, but some are 20w max, some are 120v or series, some are 100 or 125w for 8' tubes. Check you have a suitable starter. NT bet it is the tube...I'll change it today it was ....had a couple in stock... BUGGER BUGGER BUGGERÂ*Â*Â*Â* worked great the first time then after I put the ladder away...it is a very high ceiling in the garage....doing the same thing again.......the ballast?..... You come across as utterly incompetent. You were told the likely issue and you ignored them. You've been told many times it's the starter. Perhaps you should stoop down to accept others' advice. |
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"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message ... On 10/07/2019 08:33, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: "Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message ... On 09/07/2019 23:47, wrote: On Tuesday, 9 July 2019 15:27:52 UTC+1, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: tube started flashing ,,,,removed the starter works ok ....replaced the started flashing again .....removed the new starter ok again...what is wrong...the tube?.... If the tube works fine with the starter out, we know the tube is fine. Don't just give it a very quick check, let it run a good 5 mins like that. If adding the starter it then keeps flashing, we know the fault is the starter. It could be faulty or simply the wrong type. Most are 4-80 or 85w, but some are 20w max, some are 120v or series, some are 100 or 125w for 8' tubes. Check you have a suitable starter. NT bet it is the tube...I'll change it today it was ....had a couple in stock... BUGGER BUGGER BUGGER worked great the first time then after I put the ladder away...it is a very high ceiling in the garage....doing the same thing again.......the ballast?..... Might well just be a loose connection given that the replacement tube did work for a while, likely that got disturbed. Corse it could be a dry joint in the ballast etc too. |
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On Wednesday, 10 July 2019 21:27:09 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message ... BUGGER BUGGER BUGGER worked great the first time then after I put the ladder away...it is a very high ceiling in the garage....doing the same thing again.......the ballast?..... Might well just be a loose connection given that the replacement tube did work for a while, likely that got disturbed. possible, but not common. Corse it could be a dry joint in the ballast etc too. very unlikely. NT |
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On Thu, 11 Jul 2019 06:26:58 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: BUGGER BUGGER BUGGER worked great the first time then after I put the ladder away...it is a very high ceiling in the garage....doing the same thing again.......the ballast?..... Might well just be a loose connection given that the replacement tube did work for a while, likely that got disturbed. Corse it could be a dry joint in the ballast etc too. Glad to see you felt personally addressed when he mentioned "BUGGER", senile bugger! -- about senile Rot Speed: "This is like having a conversation with someone with brain damage." MID: |
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On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 16:12:49 +0100, "Brian Gaff"
wrote: Probably. The starter thinks its not struck so its probably not really working very well, assuming of course its the right starter in the first place. This may sound daft, but simply swap it for another tube if its a double and if the other one shows the problem its proved. I even used to get a couple of months out of one by simply turning it around. No idea why. Brian Once upon a time there were a range of starters to suit a range of tubes, but manufacturers have cut costs and make only starters that are meant to work for all tubes. The trouble is, they don't. -- Dave W |
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On 11/07/2019 20:06, Dave W wrote:
On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 16:12:49 +0100, "Brian Gaff" wrote: Probably. The starter thinks its not struck so its probably not really working very well, assuming of course its the right starter in the first place. This may sound daft, but simply swap it for another tube if its a double and if the other one shows the problem its proved. I even used to get a couple of months out of one by simply turning it around. No idea why. Brian Once upon a time there were a range of starters to suit a range of tubes, but manufacturers have cut costs and make only starters that are meant to work for all tubes. The trouble is, they don't. I like the electronic ones in the transparent green casings. They start tubes faster and with less flicker and do a good job of starting aged tubes that don't really want to start. SteveW |
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