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Water softener and green seepage
Since having a water softener installed, some of the
Yorkshire fittings***** have a green powdery leakage. Clearly, the nuts on the fittings need to be nipped up again, but is the greenness indicative of a high rate of corrosion in the system due to the salt, or is it just a reaction to the air once it had seeped? ***** had previously fitted new taps myself; obviously a plumber would have done it with all soldered connections if only to make things difficult for amateur plumbers in the future? |
Water softener and green seepage
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Water softener and green seepage
On Sun, 7 Jul 2019 12:19:01 +0100, Gareth's was W7 now W10 Downstairs
Computer wrote: Clearly, the nuts on the fittings need to be nipped up again, but is the greenness indicative of a high rate of corrosion in the system due to the salt, or is it just a reaction to the air once it had seeped? Water softeners do not introduce salt (NaCl) into the water pipework. |
Water softener and green seepage
On Sun, 07 Jul 2019 14:07:12 +0100, Peter Parry
wrote: On Sun, 7 Jul 2019 12:19:01 +0100, Gareth's was W7 now W10 Downstairs Computer wrote: Clearly, the nuts on the fittings need to be nipped up again, but is the greenness indicative of a high rate of corrosion in the system due to the salt, or is it just a reaction to the air once it had seeped? Water softeners do not introduce salt (NaCl) into the water pipework. Oh yes they do!! Or at least my last one did. They should rinse out any free salt, but if the timing is out or the device isn't plumbed in correctly salt can enter the users system. I seem to recollect that there are variations of the reagant available if dialasys patients or people on low salt diets are end users of the water. I like the term "crumpable olive" incidentally. One of those little gems that does sound so much more adequate than a mere "compressable" conveys. AB |
Water softener and green seepage
On 07/07/2019 14:07, Peter Parry wrote:
On Sun, 7 Jul 2019 12:19:01 +0100, Gareth's was W7 now W10 Downstairs Computer wrote: Clearly, the nuts on the fittings need to be nipped up again, but is the greenness indicative of a high rate of corrosion in the system due to the salt, or is it just a reaction to the air once it had seeped? Water softeners do not introduce salt (NaCl) into the water pipework. No, but what they do do over time is descale the pipes Allowing micro leaks -- €œThe fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell |
Water softener and green seepage
On Sun, 07 Jul 2019 12:42:59 +0100, Gareth's was W7 now W10 Downstairs
Computer wrote: On 07/07/2019 12:34, Graham. wrote: Gareth's was W7 now W10 Downstairs Computer hea Wrote in message: Since having a water softener installed, some of the Yorkshire fittings***** have a green powdery leakage. Clearly, the nuts on the fittings need to be nipped up again, but is the greenness indicative of a high rate of corrosion in the system due to the salt, or is it just a reaction to the air once it had seeped? ***** had previously fitted new taps myself; obviously a plumber would have done it with all soldered connections if only to make things difficult for amateur plumbers in the future? Maybe I've misunderstood, Yorkshire fittings are soldered. Anyway, plumbers seem to use plastic whenever they can. Perhaps I misunderstood, it being some years since doing any plumbing myself, but I thought the Yorkshire fittings were the ones I used, those with a crumpable olive and a big nut to compress it? No, those are compression fittings. AFAIK Yorkshire fittings are the ones with a ring of solder built in for people who can't end feed solder into the joint. {Holds hand up} Real plumbers just use the plain fittings because they are slightly cheaper. Cheers Dave R -- AMD FX-6300 in GA-990X-Gaming SLI-CF running Windows 7 Pro x64 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
Water softener and green seepage
"Gareth's was W7 now W10 Downstairs Computer" wrote in message ... On 07/07/2019 12:34, Graham. wrote: Gareth's was W7 now W10 Downstairs Computer hea Wrote in message: Since having a water softener installed, some of the Yorkshire fittings***** have a green powdery leakage. Clearly, the nuts on the fittings need to be nipped up again, but is the greenness indicative of a high rate of corrosion in the system due to the salt, or is it just a reaction to the air once it had seeped? ***** had previously fitted new taps myself; obviously a plumber would have done it with all soldered connections if only to make things difficult for amateur plumbers in the future? Maybe I've misunderstood, Yorkshire fittings are soldered. Anyway, plumbers seem to use plastic whenever they can. Perhaps I misunderstood, Yes you did. it being some years since doing any plumbing myself, but I thought the Yorkshire fittings were the ones I used, those with a crumpable olive and a big nut to compress it? Nope, you solder yorkshire fittings. |
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Water softener and green seepage
On 07/07/2019 12:42, Gareth's was W7 now W10 Downstairs Computer wrote:
On 07/07/2019 12:34, Graham. wrote: Gareth's was W7 now W10 Downstairs Computer hea Wrote in message: Since having a water softener installed, some of the Yorkshire fittings***** have a green powdery leakage. Clearly, the nuts on the fittings need to be nipped up again, but is the greenness indicative of a high rate of corrosion in the system due to the salt, or is it just a reaction to the air once it had seeped? ***** had previously fitted new taps myself; obviously a plumber would have done it with all soldered connections if only to make things difficult for amateur plumbers in the future? Maybe I've misunderstood,Â* Yorkshire fittings are soldered. Anyway, plumbers seem to use plastic whenever they can. Perhaps I misunderstood, it being some years since doing any plumbing myself, but I thought the Yorkshire fittings were the ones I used, those with a crumpable olive and a big nut to compress it? Those are compression fittings: http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Compression_fitting Yorkshire fittings are a specific type of "capillary" solder fitting where there is a ring of solid solder built into the fitting during manufacture. So you can simply clean and flux the pipe, then just heat the fitting without the need to add solder manually. They look like: https://www.screwfix.com/p/yorkshire...-10-pack/24368 Similar to end feed: https://www.screwfix.com/p/flomasta-...-20-pack/81276 -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
Water softener and green seepage
On Sunday, 7 July 2019 15:50:13 UTC+1, David WE Roberts (Google) wrote:
On Sun, 07 Jul 2019 12:42:59 +0100, Gareth's was W7 now W10 Downstairs Computer wrote: On 07/07/2019 12:34, Graham. wrote: Gareth's was W7 now W10 Downstairs Computer hea Wrote in message: Since having a water softener installed, some of the Yorkshire fittings***** have a green powdery leakage. Clearly, the nuts on the fittings need to be nipped up again, but is the greenness indicative of a high rate of corrosion in the system due to the salt, or is it just a reaction to the air once it had seeped? ***** had previously fitted new taps myself; obviously a plumber would have done it with all soldered connections if only to make things difficult for amateur plumbers in the future? Maybe I've misunderstood, Yorkshire fittings are soldered. Anyway, plumbers seem to use plastic whenever they can. Perhaps I misunderstood, it being some years since doing any plumbing myself, but I thought the Yorkshire fittings were the ones I used, those with a crumpable olive and a big nut to compress it? No, those are compression fittings. AFAIK Yorkshire fittings are the ones with a ring of solder built in for people who can't end feed solder into the joint. {Holds hand up} Real plumbers just use the plain fittings because they are slightly cheaper. Cheers Dave R -- AMD FX-6300 in GA-990X-Gaming SLI-CF running Windows 7 Pro x64 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus "Yorkshire" is a trade name. They made compression fittings and solder ones. With and without solder. |
Water softener and green seepage
On Monday, 8 July 2019 17:05:31 UTC+1, John Rumm wrote:
On 07/07/2019 12:42, Gareth's was W7 now W10 Downstairs Computer wrote: On 07/07/2019 12:34, Graham. wrote: Gareth's was W7 now W10 Downstairs Computer hea Wrote in message: Since having a water softener installed, some of the Yorkshire fittings***** have a green powdery leakage. Clearly, the nuts on the fittings need to be nipped up again, but is the greenness indicative of a high rate of corrosion in the system due to the salt, or is it just a reaction to the air once it had seeped? ***** had previously fitted new taps myself; obviously a plumber would have done it with all soldered connections if only to make things difficult for amateur plumbers in the future? Maybe I've misunderstood,Â* Yorkshire fittings are soldered. Anyway, plumbers seem to use plastic whenever they can. Perhaps I misunderstood, it being some years since doing any plumbing myself, but I thought the Yorkshire fittings were the ones I used, those with a crumpable olive and a big nut to compress it? Those are compression fittings: http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Compression_fitting Yorkshire fittings are a specific type of "capillary" solder fitting where there is a ring of solid solder built into the fitting during manufacture. So you can simply clean and flux the pipe, then just heat the fitting without the need to add solder manually. They look like: https://www.screwfix.com/p/yorkshire...-10-pack/24368 Similar to end feed: https://www.screwfix.com/p/flomasta-...-20-pack/81276 They make all types. https://www.google.com/search?q=york...hrome&ie=UTF-8 |
Water softener and green seepage
On 08/07/2019 19:47, harry wrote:
On Monday, 8 July 2019 17:05:31 UTC+1, John Rumm wrote: On 07/07/2019 12:42, Gareth's was W7 now W10 Downstairs Computer wrote: On 07/07/2019 12:34, Graham. wrote: Gareth's was W7 now W10 Downstairs Computer hea Wrote in message: Since having a water softener installed, some of the Yorkshire fittings***** have a green powdery leakage. Clearly, the nuts on the fittings need to be nipped up again, but is the greenness indicative of a high rate of corrosion in the system due to the salt, or is it just a reaction to the air once it had seeped? ***** had previously fitted new taps myself; obviously a plumber would have done it with all soldered connections if only to make things difficult for amateur plumbers in the future? Maybe I've misunderstood,Â* Yorkshire fittings are soldered. Anyway, plumbers seem to use plastic whenever they can. Perhaps I misunderstood, it being some years since doing any plumbing myself, but I thought the Yorkshire fittings were the ones I used, those with a crumpable olive and a big nut to compress it? Those are compression fittings: http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Compression_fitting Yorkshire fittings are a specific type of "capillary" solder fitting where there is a ring of solid solder built into the fitting during manufacture. So you can simply clean and flux the pipe, then just heat the fitting without the need to add solder manually. They look like: https://www.screwfix.com/p/yorkshire...-10-pack/24368 Similar to end feed: https://www.screwfix.com/p/flomasta-...-20-pack/81276 They make all types. Indeed, its a brand... however If someone refers to a "yorkshire fitting" without further qualification, its a fairly safe bet they mean their famed solder ring fitting. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
Water softener and green seepage
On 08/07/2019 19:47, harry wrote:
On Monday, 8 July 2019 17:05:31 UTC+1, John Rumm wrote: On 07/07/2019 12:42, Gareth's was W7 now W10 Downstairs Computer wrote: On 07/07/2019 12:34, Graham. wrote: Gareth's was W7 now W10 Downstairs Computer hea Wrote in message: Since having a water softener installed, some of the Yorkshire fittings***** have a green powdery leakage. Clearly, the nuts on the fittings need to be nipped up again, but is the greenness indicative of a high rate of corrosion in the system due to the salt, or is it just a reaction to the air once it had seeped? ***** had previously fitted new taps myself; obviously a plumber would have done it with all soldered connections if only to make things difficult for amateur plumbers in the future? Maybe I've misunderstood,Â* Yorkshire fittings are soldered. Anyway, plumbers seem to use plastic whenever they can. Perhaps I misunderstood, it being some years since doing any plumbing myself, but I thought the Yorkshire fittings were the ones I used, those with a crumpable olive and a big nut to compress it? Those are compression fittings: http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Compression_fitting Yorkshire fittings are a specific type of "capillary" solder fitting where there is a ring of solid solder built into the fitting during manufacture. So you can simply clean and flux the pipe, then just heat the fitting without the need to add solder manually. They look like: https://www.screwfix.com/p/yorkshire...-10-pack/24368 Similar to end feed: https://www.screwfix.com/p/flomasta-...-20-pack/81276 They make all types. https://www.google.com/search?q=york...hrome&ie=UTF-8 They do, but generally people refer to solder ring fittings (from any manufacturer as "Yorkshire") and other fittings (even under the trade name "Yorkshire") as capilliary, compression, push-fit, etc. SteveW |
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