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How secure wep is really depends on what you use as a password.
As I say early systems would allow you to run them with none at all.
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On 07/07/2019 09:43, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 07/07/2019 09:28, ss wrote:
Having another attempt to get this netbook working on wi-fi.

It connects to the web if connected to the ethernet cable.
I have been putting in the various codes / passwords for the router but
then get this message.....

"It is asking for a network password needs to be 40bits or 104bits
depending on your network configuration. This can be entered as a 5 or
13 ascii characters or 10 or 26 hexadecimal characters".

The above does not relate to anything on the router label, I have tried
all the numbers/passwords to no avail.

Anyone know what or where I get this?


Do you even understand how to log in to your router and check what the
wifi password is set to? Or set a new one?


Because it sure looks like your router is set up for WEP when it ought to
be WPA2/PSK.



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On Sun, 7 Jul 2019 14:44:26 +0100, Andy Burns
wrote:

The Natural Philosopher wrote:

ss wrote:

https://imgur.com/wOf8ffd


My guess is uts a home hub 3?


All the occurrences of "VM" in the model name and SSID are a clue ...


And means you don't have to 'guess' anything of course. ;-)

Cheers, T i m
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On Mon, 8 Jul 2019 04:34:36 +1000, Jack98, better known as cantankerous
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No, most are but I also have a laptop rarely used that has xp and works
ok.


XP can be very


Looks like you feel you are in ss's killfile, eh, you nym-shifting senile
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On 07/07/2019 19:34, Jack98 wrote:


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On 07/07/2019 10:43, Andy Burns wrote:
Jethro_uk wrote:

I vaguely recall the previous thread.
Have you got any devices using WiFi with this router working *as I
type* ?

Remembering the previous thread, is the "dodgy" laptop the only
device running WinXP?

No, most are but I also have a laptop rarely used that has xp and
works ok.


XP can be very unhelpful error message wise when the problem
is as basic as the password failing because you have failed to
save it in the router and the router has been power cycled.


On one of my XP laptops, it is necessary to run services.msc
from command.com and then page down to turn on networking.
Sorry, can't remember the exact details because it's under
a great pile of junk at the moment.


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On 07/07/2019 11:50, T i m wrote:
p.s. How well did you get on connecting the Netbook to someone else's
(friend / family / iNetCafe) router?


Seriously Tim me even thinking about trying Linux would be suicidal, I
am prety much out of my depth with this already.

As yet I have not tried using a friends wi-fi as I have been away for a
couple of weeks I can hopefully get a neighbour to try for me.


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On Sun, 7 Jul 2019 23:43:29 +0100, ss wrote:

On 07/07/2019 11:50, T i m wrote:
p.s. How well did you get on connecting the Netbook to someone else's
(friend / family / iNetCafe) router?


Seriously Tim me even thinking about trying Linux would be suicidal, I
am prety much out of my depth with this already.


Hmm, the thing is, I'd say it would probably be easier (assuming
everything worked as it should) for you to 'use Linux as a test tool'
(you wouldn't be 'trying Linux' as such) than it would for you to
fault find this situation in a logical / professional manner. It
really is just a matter of a few mouse clicks so if not now, I'd still
recommend you doing it (or getting someone to do it for you) for the
test tool it will then give you. You might even appreciate it as an OS
for basic Web browsing etc. ;-)

As yet I have not tried using a friends wi-fi as I have been away for a
couple of weeks I can hopefully get a neighbour to try for me.


Ok. Let us know how you get on.

Cheers, T i m

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ss wrote:
On 07/07/2019 09:46, Andy Burns wrote:
ss wrote:

Having another attempt to get this netbook working on wi-fi.
"It is asking for a network password needs to be 40bits or 104bits


sounds like the router is configured to use the ancient (horribly
broken) WEP encryption, can you reconfigure the router to use WPA or
WPA2 encryption?


Without guidance I would answer no to reconfiguring.

Worth mentioning my PC and various laptops,ipads etc all work ok from
the same wi-fi signal, it is just this one netbook that fails.


If the machine is running XP, check SP3 is installed. It is a long time
since I dabbled with Windows but I’m pretty sure this problem can be caused
by a lack of updates.

(A WEP/WPA(2) issue is also a possibility, as has been suggested.)

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On 07/07/2019 09:51, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 07/07/2019 09:43, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 07/07/2019 09:28, ss wrote:
Having another attempt to get this netbook working on wi-fi.

It connects to the web if connected to the ethernet cable.
I have been putting in the various codes / passwords for the router
but then get this message.....

"It is asking for a network password needs to be 40bits or 104bits
depending on your network configuration. This can be entered as a 5
or 13 ascii characters or 10 or 26 hexadecimal characters".

The above does not relate to anything on the router label, I have
tried all the numbers/passwords to no avail.

Anyone know what or where I get this?


Do you even understand how to log in to your router and check what the
wifi password is set to? Or set a new one?


Because it sure looks like your router is set up for WEP when it ought
to* be WPA2/PSK.



I'd agree this looks like WEP, but it sounds to me like the netbook may
be only able to handle WEP while the router is proably WPA/WPA2-PSK.
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On 08/07/2019 06:40, Brian Reay wrote:
ss wrote:
On 07/07/2019 09:46, Andy Burns wrote:
ss wrote:

Having another attempt to get this netbook working on wi-fi.
"It is asking for a network password needs to be 40bits or 104bits

sounds like the router is configured to use the ancient (horribly
broken) WEP encryption, can you reconfigure the router to use WPA or
WPA2 encryption?


Without guidance I would answer no to reconfiguring.

Worth mentioning my PC and various laptops,ipads etc all work ok from
the same wi-fi signal, it is just this one netbook that fails.


If the machine is running XP, check SP3 is installed. It is a long time
since I dabbled with Windows but I’m pretty sure this problem can be caused
by a lack of updates.

(A WEP/WPA(2) issue is also a possibility, as has been suggested.)

WEP/WPA is not so much a possibility as a certainty.

The error messages is a WEP error

For whatever reason the combination is trying to use WEP.


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On 08/07/2019 08:52, Chris Bartram wrote:
On 07/07/2019 09:51, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 07/07/2019 09:43, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 07/07/2019 09:28, ss wrote:
Having another attempt to get this netbook working on wi-fi.

It connects to the web if connected to the ethernet cable.
I have been putting in the various codes / passwords for the router
but then get this message.....

"It is asking for a network password needs to be 40bits or 104bits
depending on your network configuration. This can be entered as a 5
or 13 ascii characters or 10 or 26 hexadecimal characters".

The above does not relate to anything on the router label, I have
tried all the numbers/passwords to no avail.

Anyone know what or where I get this?

Do you even understand how to log in to your router and check what
the wifi password is set to? Or set a new one?


Because it sure looks like your router is set up for WEP when it ought
to* be WPA2/PSK.



I'd agree this looks like WEP, but it sounds to me like the netbook may
be only able to handle WEP while the router is proably WPA/WPA2-PSK.


That doesnt answer why this has suddenly happened though.

It would have to be a mighty OLD piece of hardware not to do WPA. I
borowed an EEpc an that did WPA

But as usual we dont know amything about the notebook other than its an
asus, becaiuse the original poster hasn't deigned to tell us.


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