I've nearly completed the slow and painful re-cabling of the 3rd bedroom/
office.

13 Amp laid, and about to be connected into the ring.

Ethernet run through the joists to the far side of the room.

Just remembered that the TV booster hub is in the airing cupboard next to
this room, and ran co-ax through the joists and terminated in an F-
connector next to the Ethernet jack. All tested and working.

All that remains is to put the insulation in and then the floor back down;
or is it?

The last 18" or so of the room overhangs an open porch.
The porch has a light in the centre but plenty of real estate in the
plasterboard ceiling.

I've been trying to think of anything else I should put under the floor
before I close it all up again and I thought of a security camera.

Looking straight down it should see all visitors coming to the front door.

It will be close to the location of the PCs so I could use USB, etherenet,
or other cabling (although powering it through USB would be my first
choice as I've just finished fitting everything else and I'm starting to
run out of floor space) but whatever, now is the time to consider.

Can anyone recommend a suitable camera?

A quick look on line brings up this:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/ELP-1megapi...rial-Security/
dp/B015VE4KP0/
which looks as though it might do the job.

I could connect it to a Windows or (gasp) Linux PC or a Raspberry Pi as I
have quite a few older systems as well as the new ones, and a surplus of
smaller HDDs.


Further, is there anything else I should perhaps consider for the porch?

Once the floor goes back down a bespoke storage arrangement goes over the
top so it won't be coming up again any time soon.


Cheers



Dave R



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How high above head height is the ceiling of the porch?

I'm just wondering how you might identify somebody from a shot of the top
of their head?
grin.
What about an intercom, maybe operated from a mobile. a detector for a body
standing in the porch so the delivery idiots who just come in dump the
parcel and sod off get detected.
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"David" wrote in message
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I've nearly completed the slow and painful re-cabling of the 3rd bedroom/
office.

13 Amp laid, and about to be connected into the ring.

Ethernet run through the joists to the far side of the room.

Just remembered that the TV booster hub is in the airing cupboard next to
this room, and ran co-ax through the joists and terminated in an F-
connector next to the Ethernet jack. All tested and working.

All that remains is to put the insulation in and then the floor back down;
or is it?

The last 18" or so of the room overhangs an open porch.
The porch has a light in the centre but plenty of real estate in the
plasterboard ceiling.

I've been trying to think of anything else I should put under the floor
before I close it all up again and I thought of a security camera.

Looking straight down it should see all visitors coming to the front door.

It will be close to the location of the PCs so I could use USB, etherenet,
or other cabling (although powering it through USB would be my first
choice as I've just finished fitting everything else and I'm starting to
run out of floor space) but whatever, now is the time to consider.

Can anyone recommend a suitable camera?

A quick look on line brings up this:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/ELP-1megapi...rial-Security/
dp/B015VE4KP0/
which looks as though it might do the job.

I could connect it to a Windows or (gasp) Linux PC or a Raspberry Pi as I
have quite a few older systems as well as the new ones, and a surplus of
smaller HDDs.


Further, is there anything else I should perhaps consider for the porch?

Once the floor goes back down a bespoke storage arrangement goes over the
top so it won't be coming up again any time soon.


Cheers



Dave R



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On 05/07/2019 16:34, David wrote:

Looking straight down it should see all visitors coming to the front door.

Straight down is no use for ID etc.

Bill

"David" wrote in message
...
I've nearly completed the slow and painful re-cabling of the 3rd bedroom/
office.

13 Amp laid, and about to be connected into the ring.

Ethernet run through the joists to the far side of the room.

Just remembered that the TV booster hub is in the airing cupboard next to
this room, and ran co-ax through the joists and terminated in an F-
connector next to the Ethernet jack. All tested and working.

All that remains is to put the insulation in and then the floor back down;
or is it?

The last 18" or so of the room overhangs an open porch.
The porch has a light in the centre but plenty of real estate in the
plasterboard ceiling.

I've been trying to think of anything else I should put under the floor
before I close it all up again and I thought of a security camera.

Looking straight down it should see all visitors coming to the front door.

It will be close to the location of the PCs so I could use USB, etherenet,
or other cabling (although powering it through USB would be my first
choice as I've just finished fitting everything else and I'm starting to
run out of floor space) but whatever, now is the time to consider.

Can anyone recommend a suitable camera?

A quick look on line brings up this:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/ELP-1megapi...rial-Security/
dp/B015VE4KP0/
which looks as though it might do the job.

I could connect it to a Windows or (gasp) Linux PC or a Raspberry Pi as I
have quite a few older systems as well as the new ones, and a surplus of
smaller HDDs.

The main thing with any security system is that it quickly gets to be
a right pain in the arse to have to skip thru the footage to see if
anything suspicious has happened. Lot to be said for some form of
trigger so it only records when something you specify has happened.

The best of them even do facial recognition so it doesnt bother
to keep the footage of you coming and going every day etc.

Not cheap tho.

Further, is there anything else I should perhaps consider for the porch?

Once the floor goes back down a bespoke storage arrangement
goes over the top so it won't be coming up again any time soon.

On 5 Jul 2019 15:34:46 GMT, David wrote:

Can anyone recommend a suitable camera?

Personally I'd go for some form of IP dome camera with proper PoE.
But will a camera in this porch be reachable? say from the side out
of view to stick a bit of gaffer tape over it?

1 mega pixel isn't a particulary good resolution. HD TV is 2
megapixel...

Once the floor goes back down a bespoke storage arrangement goes over
the top so it won't be coming up again any time soon.

So arrange your floor and "bespoke storage arrangement" to have an
access panel into the void above the porch. Install a strong draw
string (closed loop through eyes at each end so you can't pull it out
"by mistake") from there to another place (the airing cupboard?) with
access. Ideally a straight run, you might get away with one bend for
small flexable cables if you can "take the edge" of it with say a 40
mm waste pipe swept bend. Holes through joists absolute minimum of
1". Running with the joists it might be worth using wste pipe clips
to "manage" any cable up and away from the ceiling below.

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On Friday, 5 July 2019 16:34:48 UTC+1, David WE Roberts (Google) wrote:
I've been trying to think of anything else I should put under the floor
before I close it all up again and I thought of a security camera.
Looking straight down it should see all visitors coming to the front door.

It will see the tops of their heads, unless you have a fisheye lens.

Further, is there anything else I should perhaps consider for the porch?

A camera with audio in and out will give you the '"Ring" answer your door when you're on holiday' functionality.

Owain

On Sat, 6 Jul 2019 14:57:32 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


A quick look on line brings up this:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/ELP-1megapi...rial-Security/
dp/B015VE4KP0/
which looks as though it might do the job.

I could connect it to a Windows or (gasp) Linux PC or a Raspberry Pi as I
have quite a few older systems as well as the new ones, and a surplus of
smaller HDDs.

The main thing with any security system is that it quickly gets to be
a right pain in the arse to have to skip thru the footage to see if
anything suspicious has happened. Lot to be said for some form of
trigger so it only records when something you specify has happened.

The best of them even do facial recognition so it doesn¢t bother
to keep the footage of you coming and going every day etc.

Not cheap tho.

Thanks for providing another senile answer to a question that was not asked,
senile Rodent! tsk

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On Sat, 06 Jul 2019 08:59:22 +0100, Dave Liquorice wrote:

On 5 Jul 2019 15:34:46 GMT, David wrote:

Can anyone recommend a suitable camera?

Personally I'd go for some form of IP dome camera with proper PoE. But
will a camera in this porch be reachable? say from the side out of view
to stick a bit of gaffer tape over it?

1 mega pixel isn't a particulary good resolution. HD TV is 2
megapixel...

Once the floor goes back down a bespoke storage arrangement goes over
the top so it won't be coming up again any time soon.

So arrange your floor and "bespoke storage arrangement" to have an
access panel into the void above the porch. Install a strong draw string
(closed loop through eyes at each end so you can't pull it out "by
mistake") from there to another place (the airing cupboard?) with
access. Ideally a straight run, you might get away with one bend for
small flexable cables if you can "take the edge" of it with say a 40 mm
waste pipe swept bend. Holes through joists absolute minimum of 1".
Running with the joists it might be worth using wste pipe clips to
"manage" any cable up and away from the ceiling below.

The available floor space between the two storage units is already
allocated to 3 * 13A floor sockets, and Ethernet and a TV connection.

900mm and 600mm kitchen drawer units take up most of the floor along the
front wall over the porch.

There is roughly a 900mm space in the middle for feet, the sockets, tower
PC units.

Cables are already run through the joists which are across the room so no
need for an extra conduit.

The camera isn't intended to be proof against malicious attack; just to
potentially give a view of anyone approaching the porch. It is unlikely
(as noted) to be much use identifying people from the top of their heads
but it may see them as they approach.

Then again it may be totally useless but this looks like a one shot
opportunity to put something there.

Probably too much effort to install a sprinkler system to deter chuggers,
though.

Cheers



Dave R



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