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A neighbour has just had a new condensing boiler fitted. What looks like the condensate drain is tapped into a rainwater downpipe, which I'm almost certain goes to a soakaway, because ours does. Is that allowed? The neighbour wouldn't know, but he'd be keen to get it right. Cheers Where else could it go? -- Jim K ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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A neighbour has just had a new condensing boiler fitted. What looks
like the condensate drain is tapped into a rainwater downpipe, which I'm almost certain goes to a soakaway, because ours does. Is that allowed? The neighbour wouldn't know, but he'd be keen to get it right. Cheers -- Clive |
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"Clive Arthur" wrote in message ... A neighbour has just had a new condensing boiler fitted. What looks like the condensate drain is tapped into a rainwater downpipe, which I'm almost certain goes to a soakaway, because ours does. Is that allowed? The neighbour wouldn't know, but he'd be keen to get it right. My installer told me that the stowaway is supposed to contain (IIRC) limestone in order to neutralise the condensate Does yours? tim |
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"Clive Arthur" wrote in message ... A neighbour has just had a new condensing boiler fitted. What looks like the condensate drain is tapped into a rainwater downpipe, which I'm almost certain goes to a soakaway, because ours does. Is that allowed? The neighbour wouldn't know, but he'd be keen to get it right. you mean you are going to snitch on him...tee hee Cheers why not? ... most people put it into a rainwater gully and complain when it freezes up ... mine goes to a horizontal 100m run under the suspended floor that only serves the utility room sink ....so no freezing up problems... |
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On 04/07/2019 18:49, Jim K.. wrote:
Clive Arthur Wrote in message: A neighbour has just had a new condensing boiler fitted. What looks like the condensate drain is tapped into a rainwater downpipe, which I'm almost certain goes to a soakaway, because ours does. Is that allowed? The neighbour wouldn't know, but he'd be keen to get it right. Cheers Where else could it go? The soil pipe. Sounds like it's ok judging by the lack of 'boiler installer in shock horror probe' responses. Cheers -- Clive |
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On 04/07/2019 19:24, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
"Clive Arthur" wrote in message ... A neighbour has just had a new condensing boiler fitted. What looks like the condensate drain is tapped into a rainwater downpipe, which I'm almost certain goes to a soakaway, because ours does. Is that allowed? The neighbour wouldn't know, but he'd be keen to get it right. you mean you are going to snitch on him...tee hee No, a nice bloke and a great neighbour. But if it was a 'bad thing' I'd let him know so he could get back to the installer before it's too late. why not? ... most people put it into a rainwater gully and complain when it freezes up ... mine goes to a horizontal 100m run under the suspended floor that only serves the utility room sink ....so no freezing up problems... Sounds like it's fine then. Cheers -- Clive |
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On 04/07/2019 21:38, Clive Arthur wrote:
On 04/07/2019 19:24, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: "Clive Arthur" wrote in message ... A neighbour has just had a new condensing boiler fitted.Â* What looks like the condensate drain is tapped into a rainwater downpipe, which I'm almost certain goes to a soakaway, because ours does. Is that allowed?Â* The neighbour wouldn't know, but he'd be keen to get it right. you mean you are going to snitch on him...tee hee No, a nice bloke and a great neighbour.Â* But if it was a 'bad thing' I'd let him know so he could get back to the installer before it's too late. The output of a condensing boiler is essentially pure water with traces of iron and bit of CO2 dissolved in it. Not much different to rain (*). Except in rain the iron content is mostly as magnetite from meteor dust. https://pubs.geoscienceworld.org/gsa...dern-day-large -- Regards, Martin Brown |
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Jim GM4DHJ ... explained on 04/07/2019 :
why not? ... most people put it into a rainwater gully and complain when it freezes up ... mine goes to a horizontal 100m run under the suspended floor that only serves the utility room sink ....so no freezing up problems... That's an awfully big utility room.. |
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Clive Arthur wrote:
On 04/07/2019 18:49, Jim K.. wrote: Clive Arthur Wrote in message: A neighbour has just had a new condensing boiler fitted. What looks like the condensate drain is tapped into a rainwater downpipe, which I'm almost certain goes to a soakaway, because ours does. Is that allowed? The neighbour wouldn't know, but he'd be keen to get it right. Cheers Where else could it go? The soil pipe. Sounds like it's ok judging by the lack of 'boiler installer in shock horror probe' responses. Cheers According to my (WB) installation instructions a dedicated soakaway is one of the options for dealing with condensate. So presumably diluting it in an existing soakaway is fine. -- Roger Hayter |
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On 04/07/2019 18:43, Clive Arthur wrote:
A neighbour has just had a new condensing boiler fitted.Â* What looks like the condensate drain is tapped into a rainwater downpipe, which I'm almost certain goes to a soakaway, because ours does. Is that allowed?Â* The neighbour wouldn't know, but he'd be keen to get it right. Cheers condensate is pretty much pure water Lots of people just vent to anywhere at all. -- Microsoft : the best reason to go to Linux that ever existed. |
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On Thu, 4 Jul 2019 18:49:51 +0100
"tim..." wrote: "Clive Arthur" wrote in message ... A neighbour has just had a new condensing boiler fitted. What looks like the condensate drain is tapped into a rainwater downpipe, which I'm almost certain goes to a soakaway, because ours does. Is that allowed? The neighbour wouldn't know, but he'd be keen to get it right. My installer told me that the stowaway is supposed to contain (IIRC) limestone in order to neutralise the condensate Does yours? tim 'Stowaway'? Autocorrect acting up again? -- Davey. |
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"Harry Bloomfield" wrote in message ... Jim GM4DHJ ... explained on 04/07/2019 : why not? ... most people put it into a rainwater gully and complain when it freezes up ... mine goes to a horizontal 100m run under the suspended floor that only serves the utility room sink ....so no freezing up problems... That's an awfully big utility room.. sorry don't get that ? ..... |
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On 05/07/2019 07:49, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
"Harry Bloomfield" wrote in message ... Jim GM4DHJ ... explained on 04/07/2019 : why not? ... most people put it into a rainwater gully and complain when it freezes up ... mine goes to a horizontal 100m run under the suspended floor that only serves the utility room sink ....so no freezing up problems... That's an awfully big utility room.. sorry don't get that ? ..... Did you work out the run using extrapolation of penis length? |
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"Richard" wrote in message ... On 05/07/2019 07:49, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: "Harry Bloomfield" wrote in message ... Jim GM4DHJ ... explained on 04/07/2019 : why not? ... most people put it into a rainwater gully and complain when it freezes up ... mine goes to a horizontal 100m run under the suspended floor that only serves the utility room sink ....so no freezing up problems... That's an awfully big utility room.. sorry don't get that ? ..... Did you work out the run using extrapolation of penis length? no |
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"Harry Bloomfield" wrote in message ... Jim GM4DHJ ... explained on 04/07/2019 : why not? ... most people put it into a rainwater gully and complain when it freezes up ... mine goes to a horizontal 100m run under the suspended floor that only serves the utility room sink ....so no freezing up problems... That's an awfully big utility room.. that is the professional way to describe a run of pipe....a 100mm run of pipe ...is that what you meant? It is quite long as well .... |
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on 05/07/2019, Jim GM4DHJ ... supposed :
"Harry Bloomfield" wrote in message ... Jim GM4DHJ ... explained on 04/07/2019 : why not? ... most people put it into a rainwater gully and complain when it freezes up ... mine goes to a horizontal 100m run under the suspended floor that only serves the utility room sink ....so no freezing up problems... That's an awfully big utility room.. sorry don't get that ? ..... 100m long utility room? |
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"Harry Bloomfield" wrote in message ... on 05/07/2019, Jim GM4DHJ ... supposed : "Harry Bloomfield" wrote in message ... Jim GM4DHJ ... explained on 04/07/2019 : why not? ... most people put it into a rainwater gully and complain when it freezes up ... mine goes to a horizontal 100m run under the suspended floor that only serves the utility room sink ....so no freezing up problems... That's an awfully big utility room.. sorry don't get that ? ..... 100m long utility room? sorry 100mm run.....fecked up again didn't I ? ...... |
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"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message ... "Harry Bloomfield" wrote in message ... on 05/07/2019, Jim GM4DHJ ... supposed : "Harry Bloomfield" wrote in message ... Jim GM4DHJ ... explained on 04/07/2019 : why not? ... most people put it into a rainwater gully and complain when it freezes up ... mine goes to a horizontal 100m run under the suspended floor that only serves the utility room sink ....so no freezing up problems... That's an awfully big utility room.. sorry don't get that ? ..... 100m long utility room? sorry 100mm run.....fecked up again didn't I ? ...... It always backfires when I try to be pompous.....tee hee |
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On 05/07/2019 00:38, Davey wrote:
On Thu, 4 Jul 2019 18:49:51 +0100 "tim..." wrote: "Clive Arthur" wrote in message ... A neighbour has just had a new condensing boiler fitted. What looks like the condensate drain is tapped into a rainwater downpipe, which I'm almost certain goes to a soakaway, because ours does. Is that allowed? The neighbour wouldn't know, but he'd be keen to get it right. My installer told me that the stowaway is supposed to contain (IIRC) limestone in order to neutralise the condensate Does yours? tim 'Stowaway'? Autocorrect acting up again? Well if we get a hard penetrating frost then like the stowaway, the soakaway might freeze solid. if the soakaway is at least 5 metres from the house then it is fine. Plant some acid-loving shrubs in the location of the soakaway. |
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On 04/07/2019 21:35, Clive Arthur wrote:
On 04/07/2019 18:49, Jim K.. wrote: Clive Arthur Wrote in message: A neighbour has just had a new condensing boiler fitted.Â* What looks like the condensate drain is tapped into a rainwater downpipe, which I'm almost certain goes to a soakaway, because ours does. Is that allowed?Â* The neighbour wouldn't know, but he'd be keen to get it right. Cheers Where else could it go? The soil pipe. Not if he has a septic tank though. Sounds like it's ok judging by the lack of 'boiler installer in shock horror probe' responses. Cheers |
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On 04/07/2019 21:38, Clive Arthur wrote:
On 04/07/2019 19:24, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: "Clive Arthur" wrote in message ... A neighbour has just had a new condensing boiler fitted.Â* What looks like the condensate drain is tapped into a rainwater downpipe, which I'm almost certain goes to a soakaway, because ours does. Is that allowed?Â* The neighbour wouldn't know, but he'd be keen to get it right. you mean you are going to snitch on him...tee hee No, a nice bloke and a great neighbour.Â* But if it was a 'bad thing' I'd let him know so he could get back to the installer before it's too late. why not? ... most people put it into a rainwater gully and complain when it freezes up ... mine goes to a horizontal 100m run under the suspended floor that only serves the utility room sink ....so no freezing up problems... Sounds like it's fine then. Cheers Relax, plenty of acid rain has gone into that soakaway over the years. OTOH, if it is an old cast-iron downpipe ..... :-( |
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On 05/07/2019 09:49, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
on 05/07/2019, Jim GM4DHJ ... supposed : "Harry Bloomfield" wrote in message ... Jim GM4DHJ ... explained on 04/07/2019 : why not? ... most people put it into a rainwater gully and complain when it freezes up ... mine goes to a horizontal 100m run under the suspended floor that only serves the utility room sink ....so no freezing up problems... That's an awfully big utility room.. sorry don't get that ? ..... 100m long utility room? And no fall at all over that length ? |
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On 05/07/2019 09:37, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
"Harry Bloomfield" wrote in message ... Jim GM4DHJ ... explained on 04/07/2019 : why not? ... most people put it into a rainwater gully and complain when it freezes up ... mine goes to a horizontal 100m run under the suspended floor that only serves the utility room sink ....so no freezing up problems... That's an awfully big utility room.. that is the professional way to describe a run of pipe....a 100mm run of pipe ...is that what you meant? It is quite long as well .... You mean a run of 100mm pipe then. And the connectors for those pipes have angles of 87.5 degrees for a reason, it's to allow a lateral pipe to have the correct fall and join a vertical stack without twisting the seal in the socket. |
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On 05/07/2019 00:06, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 04/07/2019 18:43, Clive Arthur wrote: A neighbour has just had a new condensing boiler fitted.Â* What looks like the condensate drain is tapped into a rainwater downpipe, which I'm almost certain goes to a soakaway, because ours does. Is that allowed?Â* The neighbour wouldn't know, but he'd be keen to get it right. Cheers condensate is pretty much pure water Lots of people just vent to anywhere at all. It's mildly acidic, like tomato juice, which is why tinned tomatoes have a plasticky lining in the can. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condensing_boiler There is a house near me where it leaks onto a concrete apron and has badly stained it. |
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On 05/07/2019 12:18, Andrew wrote:
On 05/07/2019 00:38, Davey wrote: On Thu, 4 Jul 2019 18:49:51 +0100 "tim..." wrote: "Clive Arthur" wrote in message ... A neighbour has just had a new condensing boiler fitted.Â* What looks like the condensate drain is tapped into a rainwater downpipe, which I'm almost certain goes to a soakaway, because ours does. Is that allowed?Â* The neighbour wouldn't know, but he'd be keen to get it right. My installer told me that the stowaway is supposed to contain (IIRC) limestone in order to neutralise the condensate Does yours? tim 'Stowaway'?Â* Autocorrect acting up again? Well if we get a hard penetrating frost then like the stowaway, the soakaway might freeze solid. if the soakaway is at least 5 metres from the house then it is fine. Same for the stowaway, although paving slabs may require attention... Plant some acid-loving shrubs in the location of the soakaway. |
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On 05/07/2019 12:18, Andrew wrote:
On 04/07/2019 21:35, Clive Arthur wrote: On 04/07/2019 18:49, Jim K.. wrote: Clive Arthur Wrote in message: A neighbour has just had a new condensing boiler fitted.Â* What looks like the condensate drain is tapped into a rainwater downpipe, which I'm almost certain goes to a soakaway, because ours does. Is that allowed?Â* The neighbour wouldn't know, but he'd be keen to get it right. Cheers Where else could it go? The soil pipe. Not if he has a septic tank though. Why not? Sounds like it's ok judging by the lack of 'boiler installer in shock horror probe' responses. Cheers -- "First, find out who are the people you can not criticise. They are your oppressors." - George Orwell |
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On 04/07/2019 21:35, Clive Arthur wrote: On 04/07/2019 18:49, Jim K.. wrote: Clive Arthur Wrote in message: A neighbour has just had a new condensing boiler fitted. What looks like the condensate drain is tapped into a rainwater downpipe, which I'm almost certain goes to a soakaway, because ours does. Is that allowed? The neighbour wouldn't know, but he'd be keen to get it right. Cheers Where else could it go? The soil pipe. Not if he has a septic tank though. Bollox. -- Jim K ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On 05/07/2019 12:20, Andrew wrote:
On 04/07/2019 21:38, Clive Arthur wrote: On 04/07/2019 19:24, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: "Clive Arthur" wrote in message ... A neighbour has just had a new condensing boiler fitted.Â* What looks like the condensate drain is tapped into a rainwater downpipe, which I'm almost certain goes to a soakaway, because ours does. Is that allowed? Sounds like it's fine then. Cheers Relax, plenty of acid rain has gone into that soakaway over the years. OTOH, if it is an old cast-iron downpipe ..... :-( Just how bad a thing is this? A friend of mine has just had this sort of installation and the WB website says "It is acceptable providing that the cast iron pipe will be regularly flushed with water from another source" otherwise "corrosion and premature failure of the cast iron pipe". In her situation the condensate is fed to the cast iron stack of a secondary (little used) bathroom. How often should she flush the spare bog to satisfy the requirement of "regularly flushed". After all a Preston Guild is regular. Is failure likely in 12 days 12 months or 12 years? -- Chris B (News) |
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