Plasterboard paper surface peeling
 

Hi all,

I have some internal stud/plasterboard walls, the paper is peeling away
from the plasterboard at the joins in some areas. It's quite thick due to
the number of coats of paint, so I can't just glue it down, it will
quickly peel away again.

What to do?

Plasterboard paper surface peeling
 

On 14/06/2019 20:26, Scion wrote:
Hi all,

I have some internal stud/plasterboard walls, the paper is peeling away
from the plasterboard at the joins in some areas. It's quite thick due to
the number of coats of paint, so I can't just glue it down, it will
quickly peel away again.

What to do?


Don't recognise this problem. Do you mean wallpaper or lining paper, or
the outer layer of "card" in the plasterboard sandwich?

Plasterboard paper surface peeling
 

On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 21:25:23 +0100, newshound wrote:

On 14/06/2019 20:26, Scion wrote:
Hi all,

I have some internal stud/plasterboard walls, the paper is peeling away
from the plasterboard at the joins in some areas. It's quite thick due
to the number of coats of paint, so I can't just glue it down, it will
quickly peel away again.

What to do?


Don't recognise this problem. Do you mean wallpaper or lining paper, or
the outer layer of "card" in the plasterboard sandwich?

Don't think the plasterboard is papered over, it's the layer of paper on
the plasterboard that is peeling.

Plasterboard paper surface peeling
 

On Friday, 14 June 2019 23:41:40 UTC+1, Scion wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 21:25:23 +0100, newshound wrote:

On 14/06/2019 20:26, Scion wrote:
Hi all,

I have some internal stud/plasterboard walls, the paper is peeling away
from the plasterboard at the joins in some areas. It's quite thick due
to the number of coats of paint, so I can't just glue it down, it will
quickly peel away again.

What to do?


Don't recognise this problem. Do you mean wallpaper or lining paper, or
the outer layer of "card" in the plasterboard sandwich?

Don't think the plasterboard is papered over, it's the layer of paper on
the plasterboard that is peeling.

The only options really are
1. glue it back, maybe while leaning something against it. Wallpaper paste softens paper well.
2. Rip it off
3. Skim plaster over it all.
4. Fit lining paper.


NT

Plasterboard paper surface peeling
 

On Friday, 14 June 2019 20:26:35 UTC+1, Scion wrote:
Hi all,

I have some internal stud/plasterboard walls, the paper is peeling away
from the plasterboard at the joins in some areas. It's quite thick due to
the number of coats of paint, so I can't just glue it down, it will
quickly peel away again.

What to do?

Sounds like you have some sort of damp problem.
Condensation maybe.
Interstitial condensation?
http://www.superhomes.org.uk/resourc...ondensation-3/

Plasterboard paper surface peeling
 

On 14/06/2019 20:26, Scion wrote:
Hi all,

I have some internal stud/plasterboard walls, the paper is peeling away
from the plasterboard at the joins in some areas. It's quite thick due to
the number of coats of paint, so I can't just glue it down, it will
quickly peel away again.

What to do?

it should have been reinforced with glass tappe.

All you cam do is remove the skim and tape the joint and re skim it


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always run out of other people's money. It's quite a characteristic of them"

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Plasterboard paper surface peeling
 

On 15/06/2019 00:54, wrote:
On Friday, 14 June 2019 23:41:40 UTC+1, Scion wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 21:25:23 +0100, newshound wrote:

On 14/06/2019 20:26, Scion wrote:
Hi all,

I have some internal stud/plasterboard walls, the paper is peeling away
from the plasterboard at the joins in some areas. It's quite thick due
to the number of coats of paint, so I can't just glue it down, it will
quickly peel away again.

What to do?


Don't recognise this problem. Do you mean wallpaper or lining paper, or
the outer layer of "card" in the plasterboard sandwich?

Don't think the plasterboard is papered over, it's the layer of paper on
the plasterboard that is peeling.

The only options really are
1. glue it back, maybe while leaning something against it. Wallpaper paste softens paper well.
2. Rip it off
3. Skim plaster over it all.
4. Fit lining paper.


NT

I'd go for ripping off the loose flap, sandpaper to give a smooth
feathered hole, fill with lightweight filler, then maybe lining paper
(again ripped to feather it) prior to light sand and repaint.

Plasterboard paper surface peeling
 

On 15/06/2019 12:10, newshound wrote:
On 15/06/2019 00:54, wrote:
On Friday, 14 June 2019 23:41:40 UTC+1, ScionÂ* wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 21:25:23 +0100, newshound wrote:

On 14/06/2019 20:26, Scion wrote:
Hi all,

I have some internal stud/plasterboard walls, the paper is peeling
away
from the plasterboard at the joins in some areas. It's quite thick due
to the number of coats of paint, so I can't just glue it down, it will
quickly peel away again.

What to do?


Don't recognise this problem. Do you mean wallpaper or lining paper, or
the outer layer of "card" in the plasterboard sandwich?

Don't think the plasterboard is papered over, it's the layer of paper on
the plasterboard that is peeling.

The only options really are
1. glue it back, maybe while leaning something against it. Wallpaper
paste softens paper well.
2. Rip it off
3. Skim plaster over it all.
4. Fit lining paper.


NT

I'd go for ripping off the loose flap, sandpaper to give a smooth
feathered hole, fill with lightweight filler, then maybe lining paper
(again ripped to feather it) prior to light sand and repaint.

If its stable underneath, yes.

I assumed it wasnt


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the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt."

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Plasterboard paper surface peeling
 

On 15/06/2019 12:27, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 15/06/2019 12:10, newshound wrote:
On 15/06/2019 00:54, wrote:
On Friday, 14 June 2019 23:41:40 UTC+1, ScionÂ* wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 21:25:23 +0100, newshound wrote:

On 14/06/2019 20:26, Scion wrote:
Hi all,

I have some internal stud/plasterboard walls, the paper is peeling
away
from the plasterboard at the joins in some areas. It's quite thick
due
to the number of coats of paint, so I can't just glue it down, it
will
quickly peel away again.

What to do?


Don't recognise this problem. Do you mean wallpaper or lining
paper, or
the outer layer of "card" in the plasterboard sandwich?

Don't think the plasterboard is papered over, it's the layer of
paper on
the plasterboard that is peeling.

The only options really are
1. glue it back, maybe while leaning something against it. Wallpaper
paste softens paper well.
2. Rip it off
3. Skim plaster over it all.
4. Fit lining paper.


NT

I'd go for ripping off the loose flap, sandpaper to give a smooth
feathered hole, fill with lightweight filler, then maybe lining paper
(again ripped to feather it) prior to light sand and repaint.

If its stable underneath, yes.

I assumed it wasnt


Agreed. I'd assumed they could get back to something "solid". As I said
in my original response I found it hard to understand how this condition
had arisen (damp and movement being obvious possible causes).

Plasterboard paper surface peeling
 

Scion wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 21:25:23 +0100, newshound wrote:

On 14/06/2019 20:26, Scion wrote:
Hi all,

I have some internal stud/plasterboard walls, the paper is peeling away
from the plasterboard at the joins in some areas. It's quite thick due
to the number of coats of paint, so I can't just glue it down, it will
quickly peel away again.

What to do?


Don't recognise this problem. Do you mean wallpaper or lining paper, or
the outer layer of "card" in the plasterboard sandwich?

Don't think the plasterboard is papered over, it's the layer of paper on
the plasterboard that is peeling.

Still not an answer, is it the card that is stuck to the plaster? our
plasterboard does not have paper,just the layer of card, if this is
peeling back it can not be stuck back and you must cut affected stuff
out and feather and skim with finishing compound.

Plasterboard paper surface peeling
 

On Friday, 14 June 2019 20:26:35 UTC+1, Scion wrote:
Hi all,

I have some internal stud/plasterboard walls, the paper is peeling away
from the plasterboard at the joins in some areas. It's quite thick due to
the number of coats of paint, so I can't just glue it down, it will
quickly peel away again.

What to do?

Carefully peel off the paper leaving a feathered edge.
Paint the plaster with diluted PVA, several coats getting less dilute. Stick on lining paper (or even newspaper) with PVA (Several layers)
When dry sand down, adding paper layers as necessary or filler.

Plasterboard paper surface peeling
 

On Sunday, 16 June 2019 14:48:46 UTC+1, harry wrote:
On Friday, 14 June 2019 20:26:35 UTC+1, Scion wrote:

Hi all,

I have some internal stud/plasterboard walls, the paper is peeling away
from the plasterboard at the joins in some areas. It's quite thick due to
the number of coats of paint, so I can't just glue it down, it will
quickly peel away again.

What to do?

Carefully peel off the paper leaving a feathered edge.

usually it won't

Paint the plaster with diluted PVA, several coats getting less dilute.

you only get 1 go with pva. After that the pores are clogged. Slosh loads of very dilute pva on if the plaster is crumbly, but only once. No need otherwise.
Skip the strong layer, it'll just make things not stick

Stick on lining paper (or even newspaper) with PVA (Several layers)

wallpaper paste is much better

When dry sand down, adding paper layers as necessary or filler.

you can't sand paper, use filler.


NT

Plasterboard paper surface peeling
 

On 16/06/2019 17:24, wrote:


Stick on lining paper (or even newspaper) with PVA (Several
layers)

wallpaper paste is much better

When dry sand down, adding paper layers as necessary or filler.

you can't sand paper, use filler.


You only glue the centre of one layer of lining paper and then you
feather it by tearing the edges back towards the centre when its dry.
Then you can sand it and fill it as needed.

Does nobody in this group DIY decorate any more?

Plasterboard paper surface peeling
 

On 16/06/2019 19:41, dennis@home wrote:
On 16/06/2019 17:24, wrote:


Stick on lining paper (or even newspaper) with PVA (Several layers)

wallpaper paste is much better

When dry sand down, adding paper layers as necessary or filler.

you can't sand paper, use filler.


You only glue the centre of one layer of lining paper and then you
feather it by tearing the edges back towards the centre when its dry.
Then you can sand it and fill it as needed.

Does nobody in this group DIY decorate any more?

Partway through decorating the hall, stairs and landing at the moment.
Somewhat slowed by having to replace the hall ceiling due to a previous
leak and taking the opportunity to run network and satellite cables to
upstairs while I have access; put new phone and power sockets in the
hall; relocate the wired buglar alarm control panel under the floor (it
has remote keypads); replace the gas cupboard door; repair damaged
plasterwork; bury the thermostat's wiring; tidy the radiator plumbing;
replace the underlay that is breaking up (not replaced when the carpet
was changed some years ago); re-fit the PVC around the front door, etc.

I've just thrown out the old underlay, in preparation for painting the
woodwork on the stairs.

SteveW

Plasterboard paper surface peeling
 

"dennis@home" wrote in message
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On 16/06/2019 17:24, wrote:


Stick on lining paper (or even newspaper) with PVA (Several layers)

wallpaper paste is much better

When dry sand down, adding paper layers as necessary or filler.

you can't sand paper, use filler.


You only glue the centre of one layer of lining paper and then you
feather it by tearing the edges back towards the centre when its dry.
Then you can sand it and fill it as needed.

Does nobody in this group DIY decorate any more?

No using stupid paper on walls.

Lonely Psychopathic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert!
 

On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 06:32:38 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

You only glue the centre of one layer of lining paper and then you
feather it by tearing the edges back towards the centre when its dry.
Then you can sand it and fill it as needed.

Does nobody in this group DIY decorate any more?

No using stupid paper on walls.

I suppose his question was not meant for the resident senile idiot, senile
Rodent.

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Plasterboard paper surface peeling
 

On Sunday, 16 June 2019 19:41:51 UTC+1, dennis@home wrote:
On 16/06/2019 17:24, tabbypurr wrote:


Stick on lining paper (or even newspaper) with PVA (Several
layers)

wallpaper paste is much better

When dry sand down, adding paper layers as necessary or filler.

you can't sand paper, use filler.


You only glue the centre of one layer of lining paper and then you
feather it by tearing the edges back towards the centre when its dry.
Then you can sand it and fill it as needed.

Does nobody in this group DIY decorate any more?

Doesn't leave a good surface. You can't sand paper, try it & see.


NT

Plasterboard paper surface peeling
 

On 18/06/2019 11:10, wrote:
On Sunday, 16 June 2019 19:41:51 UTC+1, dennis@home wrote:
On 16/06/2019 17:24, tabbypurr wrote:


Stick on lining paper (or even newspaper) with PVA (Several
layers)

wallpaper paste is much better

When dry sand down, adding paper layers as necessary or filler.

you can't sand paper, use filler.


You only glue the centre of one layer of lining paper and then you
feather it by tearing the edges back towards the centre when its dry.
Then you can sand it and fill it as needed.

Does nobody in this group DIY decorate any more?

Doesn't leave a good surface. You can't sand paper, try it & see.


Been doing it for decades.
Not any more though.