washing machine sealed drum bearings
 

My Hotpoint WMUD 962 washing machine needs new bearings and it apparently has a welded outer drum (I've not checked).
Apparently the bearing can be changed with a little bit of skill if you drill holes around, split the seam (dremel / hacksaw etc. ?) and bolt back together with sealant.
OK (if SWMBO will let me try !), but anyone done this and has a list of gotchas ?

Simon.

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On 23/05/2019 08:55, sm_jamieson wrote:
My Hotpoint WMUD 962 washing machine needs new bearings and it apparently has a welded outer drum (I've not checked).
Apparently the bearing can be changed with a little bit of skill if you drill holes around, split the seam (dremel / hacksaw etc. ?) and bolt back together with sealant.
OK (if SWMBO will let me try !), but anyone done this and has a list of gotchas ?

Simon.


Maybe I am lucky, but I have never had to replace washing machine
bearings (in about 45 years). Usual problem of course is a seal failure
and these days that suggests to me a design problem. Sounds like quite a
long and potentially fiddly job, not sure I would even start it.

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On Thu, 23 May 2019 10:09:55 +0100, newshound wrote:

On 23/05/2019 08:55, sm_jamieson wrote:
My Hotpoint WMUD 962 washing machine needs new bearings and it
apparently has a welded outer drum (I've not checked).
Apparently the bearing can be changed with a little bit of skill if you
drill holes around, split the seam (dremel / hacksaw etc. ?) and bolt
back together with sealant.
OK (if SWMBO will let me try !), but anyone done this and has a list of
gotchas ?

Simon.


Maybe I am lucky, but I have never had to replace washing machine
bearings (in about 45 years). Usual problem of course is a seal failure
and these days that suggests to me a design problem. Sounds like quite a
long and potentially fiddly job, not sure I would even start it.

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I replaced the bearings in an older Hotpoint (they were simply driven out
and in), and it was a pain (in fact, the problems brought me to this
group for the first time).

When the machine finally became uneconomic to repair, I made the mistake
of replacing it with a new Hotpoint, and it failed within 15 months -
bearings again. Given the sealed drum, the parts were over £100, so I
opted for a fixed price repair for £98 all in. The technician was very
quick, and said he did so many of them he was getting good at it.

When the machine failed again just over a year later, I dumped it for a
Bosch Logixx.



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On 23/05/2019 08:55, sm_jamieson wrote:
My Hotpoint WMUD 962 washing machine needs new bearings and it apparently has a welded outer drum (I've not checked).
Apparently the bearing can be changed with a little bit of skill if you drill holes around, split the seam (dremel / hacksaw etc. ?) and bolt back together with sealant.
OK (if SWMBO will let me try !), but anyone done this and has a list of gotchas ?

Simon.

Just done a quick search on Ebay and a genuine Hotpoint complete
replacement inner and outer drum, bearings, seal, pulley and heater
element is £95. That is an all plastic outer drum though, so I don't
know what yours is. It looks like it cover your model. Item No.
173907958977.

SteveW

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On Thu, 23 May 2019 00:55:16 -0700 (PDT), sm_jamieson
wrote:

My Hotpoint WMUD 962 washing machine needs new bearings and it apparently has a welded outer drum (I've not checked).
Apparently the bearing can be changed with a little bit of skill if you drill holes around, split the seam (dremel / hacksaw etc. ?) and bolt back together with sealant.
OK (if SWMBO will let me try !), but anyone done this and has a list of gotchas ?


Yup (against the best advise). ;-)

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yy2s4ebd

1) Strip machine. (13 month old Zanussi off Freecycle)

2) Drill tub bolt-flanges out to take a suitable SS bolts, whilst they
are still perfectly aligned (we used M6 machine screws, rather than
the self-tappers it would have come with, had it not been welded).

3) Cut round tub flange using saber saw.

4) Remove drum from tub, replace bearings and seal, refit drum.

5) Offer the two tub parts together and see if there is still
clearance between open end of tub and drum. If not, find suitable
spacers (we used ss washers) for the gap.

6) If applicable, find some suitable diameter neoprene cord to form
mechanical seal in groove (scarf joint at the tip) designed for a seal
(but now cut though).

7) Apply CT1 sealant around both mating flanges and re-join tub
halves. Allow to cure overnight.

8) Re-assemble washing machine and enjoy for a further ~8 years. ;-)

Cheers, T i m

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On Thursday, May 23, 2019 at 11:30:18 AM UTC+1, T i m wrote:
On Thu, 23 May 2019 00:55:16 -0700 (PDT), sm_jamieson
wrote:

My Hotpoint WMUD 962 washing machine needs new bearings and it apparently has a welded outer drum (I've not checked).
Apparently the bearing can be changed with a little bit of skill if you drill holes around, split the seam (dremel / hacksaw etc. ?) and bolt back together with sealant.
OK (if SWMBO will let me try !), but anyone done this and has a list of gotchas ?


Yup (against the best advise). ;-)

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yy2s4ebd

1) Strip machine. (13 month old Zanussi off Freecycle)

2) Drill tub bolt-flanges out to take a suitable SS bolts, whilst they
are still perfectly aligned (we used M6 machine screws, rather than
the self-tappers it would have come with, had it not been welded).

3) Cut round tub flange using saber saw.

4) Remove drum from tub, replace bearings and seal, refit drum.

5) Offer the two tub parts together and see if there is still
clearance between open end of tub and drum. If not, find suitable
spacers (we used ss washers) for the gap.

6) If applicable, find some suitable diameter neoprene cord to form
mechanical seal in groove (scarf joint at the tip) designed for a seal
(but now cut though).

7) Apply CT1 sealant around both mating flanges and re-join tub
halves. Allow to cure overnight.

8) Re-assemble washing machine and enjoy for a further ~8 years. ;-)

Cheers, T i m

How thick is the flange? - I mean if you get the saw out of line and slice off to one side, you've had it !

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On Thursday, May 23, 2019 at 10:39:59 AM UTC+1, Bob Eager wrote:
On Thu, 23 May 2019 10:09:55 +0100, newshound wrote:

On 23/05/2019 08:55, sm_jamieson wrote:
My Hotpoint WMUD 962 washing machine needs new bearings and it
apparently has a welded outer drum (I've not checked).
Apparently the bearing can be changed with a little bit of skill if you
drill holes around, split the seam (dremel / hacksaw etc. ?) and bolt
back together with sealant.
OK (if SWMBO will let me try !), but anyone done this and has a list of
gotchas ?

Simon.


Maybe I am lucky, but I have never had to replace washing machine
bearings (in about 45 years). Usual problem of course is a seal failure
and these days that suggests to me a design problem. Sounds like quite a
long and potentially fiddly job, not sure I would even start it.

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I replaced the bearings in an older Hotpoint (they were simply driven out
and in), and it was a pain (in fact, the problems brought me to this
group for the first time).

When the machine finally became uneconomic to repair, I made the mistake
of replacing it with a new Hotpoint, and it failed within 15 months -
bearings again. Given the sealed drum, the parts were over £100, so I
opted for a fixed price repair for £98 all in. The technician was very
quick, and said he did so many of them he was getting good at it.

When the machine failed again just over a year later, I dumped it for a
Bosch Logixx.


Maybe I am lucky. We use the WMUD sometime 2 loads a day, and it has lasted 5 years so far. The bearings have not actually failed, not grinding yet, it's just that the "silent" machine sounds like a freight train / jet engine on spin.
To be honest it lost it's initial quietness within a few months but stayed OK until recently.

Simon,

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On Thursday, May 23, 2019 at 10:39:59 AM UTC+1, Bob Eager wrote:
On Thu, 23 May 2019 10:09:55 +0100, newshound wrote:

On 23/05/2019 08:55, sm_jamieson wrote:
My Hotpoint WMUD 962 washing machine needs new bearings and it
apparently has a welded outer drum (I've not checked).
Apparently the bearing can be changed with a little bit of skill if you
drill holes around, split the seam (dremel / hacksaw etc. ?) and bolt
back together with sealant.
OK (if SWMBO will let me try !), but anyone done this and has a list of
gotchas ?

Simon.


Maybe I am lucky, but I have never had to replace washing machine
bearings (in about 45 years). Usual problem of course is a seal failure
and these days that suggests to me a design problem. Sounds like quite a
long and potentially fiddly job, not sure I would even start it.

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I replaced the bearings in an older Hotpoint (they were simply driven out
and in), and it was a pain (in fact, the problems brought me to this
group for the first time).

When the machine finally became uneconomic to repair, I made the mistake
of replacing it with a new Hotpoint, and it failed within 15 months -
bearings again. Given the sealed drum, the parts were over £100, so I
opted for a fixed price repair for £98 all in. The technician was very
quick, and said he did so many of them he was getting good at it.

When the machine failed again just over a year later, I dumped it for a
Bosch Logixx.


Anything particularly good about Bosch Logixx (design etc.) ?

Simon.

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On Thu, 23 May 2019 03:51:57 -0700 (PDT), sm_jamieson
wrote:

snip

3) Cut round tub flange using saber saw.


How thick is the flange?

Maybe 5mm / side?

- I mean if you get the saw out of line and slice off to one side, you've had it !

Only really if you come off the flange completely because they will go
back together the same way.

Cheers, T i m

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On Thu, 23 May 2019 03:58:13 -0700, sm_jamieson wrote:

On Thursday, May 23, 2019 at 10:39:59 AM UTC+1, Bob Eager wrote:
On Thu, 23 May 2019 10:09:55 +0100, newshound wrote:

On 23/05/2019 08:55, sm_jamieson wrote:
My Hotpoint WMUD 962 washing machine needs new bearings and it
apparently has a welded outer drum (I've not checked).
Apparently the bearing can be changed with a little bit of skill if
you drill holes around, split the seam (dremel / hacksaw etc. ?) and
bolt back together with sealant.
OK (if SWMBO will let me try !), but anyone done this and has a list
of gotchas ?

Simon.


Maybe I am lucky, but I have never had to replace washing machine
bearings (in about 45 years). Usual problem of course is a seal
failure and these days that suggests to me a design problem. Sounds
like quite a long and potentially fiddly job, not sure I would even
start it.

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I replaced the bearings in an older Hotpoint (they were simply driven
out and in), and it was a pain (in fact, the problems brought me to
this group for the first time).

When the machine finally became uneconomic to repair, I made the
mistake of replacing it with a new Hotpoint, and it failed within 15
months - bearings again. Given the sealed drum, the parts were over
£100, so I opted for a fixed price repair for £98 all in. The
technician was very quick, and said he did so many of them he was
getting good at it.

When the machine failed again just over a year later, I dumped it for a
Bosch Logixx.


Anything particularly good about Bosch Logixx (design etc.) ?

One good thing is that it is easy and quick to get spare parts for most
Bosch stuff. Logixx is the top end.

I thibk we've had the Bosch 8-9 years. The only thing with the washing
machine is that I couldn't get the end off the pump to remove a coin or
similar. It was gunged up and it stopped the thing turning. I now pop it
out every six months and clean it. On that occasion I got a new pump, and
then refurbed the old one as a spare.

The dryer has also been fine apart from having to clean out the front of
the heat exchanger - sons don't clean the removable filters and a lot got
through because as we removed the filters, fluff dropped inside. To fix
that, rather strangely you have to cut out a pre-scored plastic panel and
replace it with a screw-on one3. But it works well.


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On 23/05/2019 10:39, Bob Eager wrote:
On Thu, 23 May 2019 10:09:55 +0100, newshound wrote:

On 23/05/2019 08:55, sm_jamieson wrote:
My Hotpoint WMUD 962 washing machine needs new bearings and it
apparently has a welded outer drum (I've not checked).
Apparently the bearing can be changed with a little bit of skill if you
drill holes around, split the seam (dremel / hacksaw etc. ?) and bolt
back together with sealant.
OK (if SWMBO will let me try !), but anyone done this and has a list of
gotchas ?

Simon.


Maybe I am lucky, but I have never had to replace washing machine
bearings (in about 45 years). Usual problem of course is a seal failure
and these days that suggests to me a design problem. Sounds like quite a
long and potentially fiddly job, not sure I would even start it.

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I replaced the bearings in an older Hotpoint (they were simply driven out
and in), and it was a pain (in fact, the problems brought me to this
group for the first time).

When the machine finally became uneconomic to repair, I made the mistake
of replacing it with a new Hotpoint, and it failed within 15 months -
bearings again. Given the sealed drum, the parts were over £100, so I
opted for a fixed price repair for £98 all in. The technician was very
quick, and said he did so many of them he was getting good at it.

When the machine failed again just over a year later, I dumped it for a
Bosch Logixx.



If you include dishwashers, I'm on about my sixth Bosch in 25 years.
Life has always been reasonable, I've replaced a couple of sets of
brushes and some shelf rollers.

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On Thu, 23 May 2019 12:38:23 +0100, newshound wrote:

If you include dishwashers, I'm on about my sixth Bosch in 25 years.
Life has always been reasonable, I've replaced a couple of sets of
brushes and some shelf rollers.

Our last Bosch dishwasher made about 14 years before I decided it was
time for a new one. It was used heavily (partly because we could only fit
the narrower one in).

In the 14 years: one drain hose, one new bottom to the cutlery basket
(yes, it came separately) and two very inexpensive kits (under a fiver)
to refurb the detergent dispenser.

The current one is several years old and I've done the detergent
dispenser once; that's all.

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On Thursday, 23 May 2019 12:38:24 UTC+1, newshound wrote:

If you include dishwashers, I'm on about my sixth Bosch in 25 years.
Life has always been reasonable, I've replaced a couple of sets of
brushes and some shelf rollers.

Damn. My previous ONE lasted longer than that.


NT

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Vibration leaks and balance come to mind.
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My Hotpoint WMUD 962 washing machine needs new bearings and it apparently
has a welded outer drum (I've not checked).
Apparently the bearing can be changed with a little bit of skill if you
drill holes around, split the seam (dremel / hacksaw etc. ?) and bolt back
together with sealant.
OK (if SWMBO will let me try !), but anyone done this and has a list of
gotchas ?

Simon.

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Blimey our Indesit is over 20 years old.

washing machine sealed drum bearings
 

DerbyBorn wrote:

Blimey our Indesit is over 20 years old.

Yeah, I've only had two washer/dryers since 1987.

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On Thu, 23 May 2019 17:02:53 +0000, DerbyBorn wrote:

Blimey our Indesit is over 20 years old.

Our Hotpoint lasted 15 or so. But it was heavily used (babies/children,
not that we put them in directly).

In the end the motor blew up, and what with the other things (bearings
going, etc.) I decided I wanted a quiet life for a bit.

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DerbyBorn wrote:

Blimey our Indesit is over 20 years old.

Yeah, I've only had two washer/dryers since 1987.

I have had 3 since 1974 - all Indesit.Basic washers - no built in dryer.

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On 23/05/2019 08:55, sm_jamieson wrote:
My Hotpoint WMUD 962 washing machine needs new bearings and it apparently has a welded outer drum (I've not checked).
Apparently the bearing can be changed with a little bit of skill if you drill holes around, split the seam (dremel / hacksaw etc. ?) and bolt back together with sealant.
OK (if SWMBO will let me try !), but anyone done this and has a list of gotchas ?


It's not your washing machine, it's her washing machine.




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