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My local hall has an outside tap. To avoid massive water bills through the local miscreants turning it and leaving it running all night/weekend we have taken to turning off a valve inside the building. This year we have planted a collection of wildflowers and others which until they are established need watering.
The cleaning lady is happy to do the watering but she isn't very tall and can't reach the inside shut off valve. I'm thinking if the outside tap was operated by a key (Yale type) it would simplify the task. The only key operated valves Google seems to be able to find are simple, square/triangle lockshield types. Does anyone know if what I'm seeking is available? |
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On 22/05/2019 17:26, Cynic wrote:
My local hall has an outside tap. To avoid massive water bills through the local miscreants turning it and leaving it running all night/weekend we have taken to turning off a valve inside the building. This year we have planted a collection of wildflowers and others which until they are established need watering. The cleaning lady is happy to do the watering but she isn't very tall and can't reach the inside shut off valve. I'm thinking if the outside tap was operated by a key (Yale type) it would simplify the task. The only key operated valves Google seems to be able to find are simple, square/triangle lockshield types. Does anyone know if what I'm seeking is available? Put the outside tap in a metal safe with a key.. https://www.ebay.co.uk/p/High-Securi...fe/16026507040 -- Renewable energy: Expensive solutions that don't work to a problem that doesn't exist instituted by self legalising protection rackets that don't protect, masquerading as public servants who don't serve the public. |
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On 22/05/2019 17:26, Cynic wrote:
My local hall has an outside tap. To avoid massive water bills through the local miscreants turning it and leaving it running all night/weekend we have taken to turning off a valve inside the building. This year we have planted a collection of wildflowers and others which until they are established need watering. The cleaning lady is happy to do the watering but she isn't very tall and can't reach the inside shut off valve. Just to ask the bleeding obvious, the inside valve can't be moved/ add a second valve lower down/ buy her a step stool? I'm thinking if the outside tap was operated by a key (Yale type) it would simplify the task. The only key operated valves Google seems to be able to find are simple, square/triangle lockshield types. I expect a triangular tap head will defeat the local yoofs. Given that the downside risk is say £10 worth of water, is it worth doing anything more complicated until you've tried that? Does anyone know if what I'm seeking is available? |
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Cynic wrote :
My local hall has an outside tap. To avoid massive water bills through the local miscreants turning it and leaving it running all night/weekend we have taken to turning off a valve inside the building. This year we have planted a collection of wildflowers and others which until they are established need watering. The cleaning lady is happy to do the watering but she isn't very tall and can't reach the inside shut off valve. I'm thinking if the outside tap was operated by a key (Yale type) it would simplify the task. The only key operated valves Google seems to be able to find are simple, square/triangle lockshield types. Does anyone know if what I'm seeking is available? Could you not take the top handle off the tap and keep it inside? |
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On 22/05/2019 17:26, Cynic wrote:
My local hall has an outside tap. To avoid massive water bills through the local miscreants turning it and leaving it running all night/weekend we have taken to turning off a valve inside the building. This year we have planted a collection of wildflowers and others which until they are established need watering. The cleaning lady is happy to do the watering but she isn't very tall and can't reach the inside shut off valve. I'm thinking if the outside tap was operated by a key (Yale type) it would simplify the task. The only key operated valves Google seems to be able to find are simple, square/triangle lockshield types. Does anyone know if what I'm seeking is available? https://www.amazon.co.uk/Water-Block.../dp/B003DZUOWS or similar? |
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On 22/05/2019 17:26, Cynic wrote:
My local hall has an outside tap. To avoid massive water bills through the local miscreants turning it and leaving it running all night/weekend we have taken to turning off a valve inside the building. This year we have planted a collection of wildflowers and others which until they are established need watering. The cleaning lady is happy to do the watering but she isn't very tall and can't reach the inside shut off valve. I'm thinking if the outside tap was operated by a key (Yale type) it would simplify the task. The only key operated valves Google seems to be able to find are simple, square/triangle lockshield types. Does anyone know if what I'm seeking is available? Install a remote Stop Tap , Screwfix sell the Surestop one, where it is easily accessible by the cleaning person and others. |
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On 22/05/2019 18:55, dennis@home wrote:
On 22/05/2019 17:26, Cynic wrote: My local hall has an outside tap. To avoid massive water bills through the local miscreants turning it and leaving it running all night/weekend we have taken to turning off a valve inside the building. This year we have planted a collection of wildflowers and others which until they are established need watering. The cleaning lady is happy to do the watering but she isn't very tall and can't reach the inside shut off valve. I'm thinking if the outside tap was operated by a key (Yale type) it would simplify the task. The only key operated valves Google seems to be able to find are simple, square/triangle lockshield types. Does anyone know if what I'm seeking is available? https://www.amazon.co.uk/Water-Block.../dp/B003DZUOWS or similar? https://floodcheck.co.uk/product/flo...al-easy-reset/ |
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On Wednesday, 22 May 2019 17:26:15 UTC+1, Cynic wrote:
My local hall has an outside tap. To avoid massive water bills through the local miscreants turning it and leaving it running all night/weekend we have taken to turning off a valve inside the building. This year we have planted a collection of wildflowers and others which until they are established need watering. The cleaning lady is happy to do the watering but she isn't very tall and can't reach the inside shut off valve. I'm thinking if the outside tap was operated by a key (Yale type) it would simplify the task. The only key operated valves Google seems to be able to find are simple, square/triangle lockshield types. Does anyone know if what I'm seeking is available? Give her a box to stand on. |
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On 22/05/2019 18:19, GB wrote:
On 22/05/2019 17:26, Cynic wrote: My local hall has an outside tap. To avoid massive water bills through the local miscreants turning it and leaving it running all night/weekend we have taken to turning off a valve inside the building. This year we have planted a collection of wildflowers and others which until they are established need watering. The cleaning lady is happy to do the watering but she isn't very tall and can't reach the inside shut off valve. Just to ask the bleeding obvious, the inside valve can't be moved/ add a second valve lower down/ buy her a step stool? Buy her a step stool? Cost of the H&S course for her to use one? Second hand milk/beer crates are of course free and when turned up upside down make a stable platform for someone to stand on. -- Adam |
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Cynic wrote:
My local hall has an outside tap. To avoid massive water bills through the local miscreants turning it and leaving it running all night/weekend we have taken to turning off a valve inside the building. This year we have planted a collection of wildflowers and others which until they are established need watering. The cleaning lady is happy to do the watering but she isn't very tall and can't reach the inside shut off valve. I'm thinking if the outside tap was operated by a key (Yale type) it would simplify the task. The only key operated valves Google seems to be able to find are simple, square/triangle lockshield types. Does anyone know if what I'm seeking is available? Wildflowers do not need watering. They are the only flowers that will grow in my front flower beds. |
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On 22/05/2019 20:21, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Cynic wrote: My local hall has an outside tap. To avoid massive water bills through the local miscreants turning it and leaving it running all night/weekend we have taken to turning off a valve inside the building. This year we have planted a collection of wildflowers and others which until they are established need watering. The cleaning lady is happy to do the watering but she isn't very tall and can't reach the inside shut off valve. I'm thinking if the outside tap was operated by a key (Yale type) it would simplify the task. The only key operated valves Google seems to be able to find are simple, square/triangle lockshield types. Does anyone know if what I'm seeking is available? Wildflowers do not need watering. They are the only flowers that will grow in my front flower beds. WTF is a wildflower? -- Adam |
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On 22/05/2019 17:26, Cynic wrote:
My local hall has an outside tap. To avoid massive water bills through the local miscreants turning it and leaving it running all night/weekend we have taken to turning off a valve inside the building. This year we have planted a collection of wildflowers and others which until they are established need watering. The cleaning lady is happy to do the watering but she isn't very tall and can't reach the inside shut off valve. I'm thinking if the outside tap was operated by a key (Yale type) it would simplify the task. The only key operated valves Google seems to be able to find are simple, square/triangle lockshield types. Does anyone know if what I'm seeking is available? http://www.surestop.co.uk/owners/ss-15-rpl/ -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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ARW Wrote in message:
On 22/05/2019 20:21, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: Cynic wrote: My local hall has an outside tap. To avoid massive water bills through the local miscreants turning it and leaving it running all night/weekend we have taken to turning off a valve inside the building. This year we have planted a collection of wildflowers and others which until they are established need watering. The cleaning lady is happy to do the watering but she isn't very tall and can't reach the inside shut off valve. I'm thinking if the outside tap was operated by a key (Yale type) it would simplify the task. The only key operated valves Google seems to be able to find are simple, square/triangle lockshield types. Does anyone know if what I'm seeking is available? Wildflowers do not need watering. They are the only flowers that will grow in my front flower beds. WTF is a wildflower? (Weeds) -- Jim K ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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Jim K.. wrote:
ARW Wrote in message: On 22/05/2019 20:21, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: Cynic wrote: My local hall has an outside tap. To avoid massive water bills through the local miscreants turning it and leaving it running all night/weekend we have taken to turning off a valve inside the building. This year we have planted a collection of wildflowers and others which until they are established need watering. The cleaning lady is happy to do the watering but she isn't very tall and can't reach the inside shut off valve. I'm thinking if the outside tap was operated by a key (Yale type) it would simplify the task. The only key operated valves Google seems to be able to find are simple, square/triangle lockshield types. Does anyone know if what I'm seeking is available? Wildflowers do not need watering. They are the only flowers that will grow in my front flower beds. WTF is a wildflower? (Weeds) Yes. But after 7 years of humiliation in my garden, these grew from seeds and look very nice. The lady down the road was so impressed that she wants to shag me. |
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"Mr Pounder Esquire" Wrote in message:
Jim K.. wrote: ARW Wrote in message: On 22/05/2019 20:21, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: Cynic wrote: My local hall has an outside tap. To avoid massive water bills through the local miscreants turning it and leaving it running all night/weekend we have taken to turning off a valve inside the building. This year we have planted a collection of wildflowers and others which until they are established need watering. The cleaning lady is happy to do the watering but she isn't very tall and can't reach the inside shut off valve. I'm thinking if the outside tap was operated by a key (Yale type) it would simplify the task. The only key operated valves Google seems to be able to find are simple, square/triangle lockshield types. Does anyone know if what I'm seeking is available? Wildflowers do not need watering. They are the only flowers that will grow in my front flower beds. WTF is a wildflower? (Weeds) Yes. But after 7 years of humiliation in my garden, these grew from seeds and look very nice. The lady down the road was so impressed that she wants to shag me. You been smoking then weeds? -- Jim K ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On Wednesday, May 22, 2019 at 5:26:15 PM UTC+1, Cynic wrote:
My local hall has an outside tap. To avoid massive water bills through the local miscreants turning it and leaving it running all night/weekend we have taken to turning off a valve inside the building. This year we have planted a collection of wildflowers and others which until they are established need watering. The cleaning lady is happy to do the watering but she isn't very tall and can't reach the inside shut off valve. I'm thinking if the outside tap was operated by a key (Yale type) it would simplify the task. The only key operated valves Google seems to be able to find are simple, square/triangle lockshield types. Does anyone know if what I'm seeking is available? Replace the tap with a pushdown tap. Then only a set amount can be dispensed and water is still availiable for anyone that needs it. Philip |
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On 22/05/2019 21:49, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Jim K.. wrote: ARW Wrote in message: On 22/05/2019 20:21, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: Cynic wrote: My local hall has an outside tap. To avoid massive water bills through the local miscreants turning it and leaving it running all night/weekend we have taken to turning off a valve inside the building. This year we have planted a collection of wildflowers and others which until they are established need watering. The cleaning lady is happy to do the watering but she isn't very tall and can't reach the inside shut off valve. I'm thinking if the outside tap was operated by a key (Yale type) it would simplify the task. The only key operated valves Google seems to be able to find are simple, square/triangle lockshield types. Does anyone know if what I'm seeking is available? Wildflowers do not need watering. They are the only flowers that will grow in my front flower beds. WTF is a wildflower? (Weeds) Yes. But after 7 years of humiliation in my garden, these grew from seeds and look very nice. The lady down the road was so impressed that she wants to shag me. The blind women or is she on drugs? |
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"ARW" wrote in message ... On 22/05/2019 20:21, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: Cynic wrote: My local hall has an outside tap. To avoid massive water bills through the local miscreants turning it and leaving it running all night/weekend we have taken to turning off a valve inside the building. This year we have planted a collection of wildflowers and others which until they are established need watering. The cleaning lady is happy to do the watering but she isn't very tall and can't reach the inside shut off valve. I'm thinking if the outside tap was operated by a key (Yale type) it would simplify the task. The only key operated valves Google seems to be able to find are simple, square/triangle lockshield types. Does anyone know if what I'm seeking is available? Wildflowers do not need watering. They are the only flowers that will grow in my front flower beds. WTF is a wildflower? One that bites. |
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Lonely Psychopathic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert!
On Thu, 23 May 2019 11:30:05 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: WTF is a wildflower? One that bites. Please, spare everyone your senile attempts at "humour", senile pest! -- Norman Wells addressing senile Rot: "Ah, the voice of scum speaks." MID: |
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Of greater concern should be the damage to the property footings - and in witnter to the brickwork.. |
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On Wed, 22 May 2019 20:05:27 +0100, ARW
wrote: On 22/05/2019 18:19, GB wrote: On 22/05/2019 17:26, Cynic wrote: My local hall has an outside tap. To avoid massive water bills through the local miscreants turning it and leaving it running all night/weekend we have taken to turning off a valve inside the building. This year we have planted a collection of wildflowers and others which until they are established need watering. The cleaning lady is happy to do the watering but she isn't very tall and can't reach the inside shut off valve. Just to ask the bleeding obvious, the inside valve can't be moved/ add a second valve lower down/ buy her a step stool? Buy her a step stool? Cost of the H&S course for her to use one? Second hand milk/beer crates are of course free and when turned up upside down make a stable platform for someone to stand on. Bloody unprofessional ARW What's up with empty cable reels? I believe the 19th edition will make it mandatory to increase the inner spool size to aid stability. AB |
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On Wed, 22 May 2019 20:51:53 +0100, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2019 20:32:20 +0100, ARW wrote: On 22/05/2019 20:21, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: Cynic wrote: My local hall has an outside tap. To avoid massive water bills through the local miscreants turning it and leaving it running all night/weekend we have taken to turning off a valve inside the building. This year we have planted a collection of wildflowers and others which until they are established need watering. The cleaning lady is happy to do the watering but she isn't very tall and can't reach the inside shut off valve. I'm thinking if the outside tap was operated by a key (Yale type) it would simplify the task. The only key operated valves Google seems to be able to find are simple, square/triangle lockshield types. Does anyone know if what I'm seeking is available? Wildflowers do not need watering. They are the only flowers that will grow in my front flower beds. WTF is a wildflower? A flower that grows naturally in the wild, perhaps? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wildflower One that has been taken one stage beyond irritated! AB |
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Thanks everyone, the surestop sounds like a good solution at a reasonable cost.
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On Wed, 22 May 2019 09:26:11 -0700 (PDT), Cynic
wrote: My local hall has an outside tap. To avoid massive water bills through the local miscreants turning it and leaving it running all night/weekend we have taken to turning off a valve inside the building. This year we have planted a collection of wildflowers and others which until they are established need watering. The cleaning lady is happy to do the watering but she isn't very tall and can't reach the inside shut off valve. I'm thinking if the outside tap was operated by a key (Yale type) it would simplify the task. The only key operated valves Google seems to be able to find are simple, square/triangle lockshield types. Does anyone know if what I'm seeking is available? https://www.amazon.co.uk/Taplock-Out.../dp/B003YL4SOQ https://www.amazon.co.uk/Other-Locka...JNQRCY5ACG0C2N https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Outdoor-G...-/302931334376 |
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On 22/05/2019 17:26, Cynic wrote:
My local hall has an outside tap. To avoid massive water bills through the local miscreants turning it and leaving it running all night/weekend we have taken to turning off a valve inside the building. This year we have planted a collection of wildflowers and others which until they are established need watering. The cleaning lady is happy to do the watering but she isn't very tall and can't reach the inside shut off valve. I'm thinking if the outside tap was operated by a key (Yale type) it would simplify the task. The only key operated valves Google seems to be able to find are simple, square/triangle lockshield types. Does anyone know if what I'm seeking is available? You can get bibtaps with removable handles for exactly this situation. Like this: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lockshield-...dp/B00CMAPQ5U/ -- Email does not work |
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On 23/05/2019 09:52, Peter Parry wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2019 09:26:11 -0700 (PDT), Cynic wrote: My local hall has an outside tap. To avoid massive water bills through the local miscreants turning it and leaving it running all night/weekend we have taken to turning off a valve inside the building. This year we have planted a collection of wildflowers and others which until they are established need watering. The cleaning lady is happy to do the watering but she isn't very tall and can't reach the inside shut off valve. I'm thinking if the outside tap was operated by a key (Yale type) it would simplify the task. The only key operated valves Google seems to be able to find are simple, square/triangle lockshield types. Does anyone know if what I'm seeking is available? https://www.amazon.co.uk/Taplock-Out.../dp/B003YL4SOQ https://www.amazon.co.uk/Other-Locka...JNQRCY5ACG0C2N https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Outdoor-G...-/302931334376 Isn't it all overkill though? A simple removeable handle is surely enough - if they really want to cause trouble they will anyway. They could presumably just unscrew the tap from the back plate? SteveW |
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On 22/05/2019 20:51, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2019 20:32:20 +0100, ARW wrote: On 22/05/2019 20:21, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: Cynic wrote: My local hall has an outside tap. To avoid massive water bills through the local miscreants turning it and leaving it running all night/weekend we have taken to turning off a valve inside the building. This year we have planted a collection of wildflowers and others which until they are established need watering. The cleaning lady is happy to do the watering but she isn't very tall and can't reach the inside shut off valve. I'm thinking if the outside tap was operated by a key (Yale type) it would simplify the task. The only key operated valves Google seems to be able to find are simple, square/triangle lockshield types. Does anyone know if what I'm seeking is available? Wildflowers do not need watering. They are the only flowers that will grow in my front flower beds. WTF is a wildflower? A flower that grows naturally in the wild, perhaps? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wildflower That's traditionally American. British English is "wild flower". Hence the OED does not recognise "wildflower", and Collins gives the concatenation only as an "also". And we are exhorted to think about the dangers of invasive species! -- Robin reply-to address is (intended to be) valid |
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ARW wrote:
On 22/05/2019 18:19, GB wrote: On 22/05/2019 17:26, Cynic wrote: My local hall has an outside tap. To avoid massive water bills through the local miscreants turning it and leaving it running all night/weekend we have taken to turning off a valve inside the building. This year we have planted a collection of wildflowers and others which until they are established need watering. The cleaning lady is happy to do the watering but she isn't very tall and can't reach the inside shut off valve. Just to ask the bleeding obvious, the inside valve can't be moved/ add a second valve lower down/ buy her a step stool? Buy her a step stool? Cost of the H&S course for her to use one? Second hand milk/beer crates are of course free and when turned up upside down make a stable platform for someone to stand on. I broke an ankle doing that , they were stacked four high in four columns with a piece of plywood on top. They were still stable till a twerp came down the corridor with an empty pallet on a pallet truck and was too thick too notice that you cant get a 48€ wide pallet through a 40€ inch gap and took out one corner of the pile. GH |
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"Marland" wrote in message ... ARW wrote: On 22/05/2019 18:19, GB wrote: On 22/05/2019 17:26, Cynic wrote: My local hall has an outside tap. To avoid massive water bills through the local miscreants turning it and leaving it running all night/weekend we have taken to turning off a valve inside the building. This year we have planted a collection of wildflowers and others which until they are established need watering. The cleaning lady is happy to do the watering but she isn't very tall and can't reach the inside shut off valve. Just to ask the bleeding obvious, the inside valve can't be moved/ add a second valve lower down/ buy her a step stool? Buy her a step stool? Cost of the H&S course for her to use one? Second hand milk/beer crates are of course free and when turned up upside down make a stable platform for someone to stand on. I broke an ankle doing that , they were stacked four high in four columns with a piece of plywood on top. They were still stable till a twerp came down the corridor with an empty pallet on a pallet truck and was too thick too notice that you cant get a 48€ wide pallet through a 40€ inch gap and took out one corner of the pile. Unlikely to happen in Cynic's hall. |
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Lonely Psychopathic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert!
On Fri, 24 May 2019 09:46:54 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: They were still stable till a twerp came down the corridor with an empty pallet on a pallet truck and was too thick too notice that you canÿt get a 48¡ wide pallet through a 40¡ inch gap and took out one corner of the pile. Unlikely to happen in Cynic's hall. If someone wanted a senile asshole's opinion they'd have farted in your direction, senile Rodent! -- Sqwertz to Rot Speed: "This is just a hunch, but I'm betting you're kinda an argumentative asshole. MID: |
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On 22/05/2019 21:49, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Yes. But after 7 years of humiliation in my garden, these grew from seeds and look very nice. The lady down the road was so impressed that she wants to shag me. Then take her out for a drink/meal and then shag her. -- Adam |
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