My outbox is completely empty, but when I click send/receive, or it
does an automatic one, it complains that it is unable to send 4 of 4
emails.
It seems to be trying to send via Tiscali's (talktalk) server, which I
am no longer with, so no possibility to send via them. I can receive
mail via Tiscali, but not send.

So what have you got set up to send and what is the error message?Outlook
could be very about the content of forwarded messages and these days I tend
to cut and paste only the stuff I need and start a new clean message after
deleting the old one from the outbox. I'm assuming that most flavours of
Microsoft email have the same problem as I saw it on OutlookExpress
yesterday
Don't you think 97 is a little old now? I don't even recall if it could
manage the server port changes demanded these days.
Brian

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My outbox is completely empty, but when I click send/receive, or it does
an automatic one, it complains that it is unable to send 4 of 4 emails.
It seems to be trying to send via Tiscali's (talktalk) server, which I am
no longer with, so no possibility to send via them. I can receive mail via
Tiscali, but not send.

Brian Gaff presented the following explanation :
So what have you got set up to send and what is the error message?

The message I mentioned.

Outlook
could be very about the content of forwarded messages and these days I tend
to cut and paste only the stuff I need and start a new clean message after
deleting the old one from the outbox.

As said, there is nothing in my Outbox, it is completely empty.

I'm assuming that most flavours of
Microsoft email have the same problem as I saw it on OutlookExpress yesterday
Don't you think 97 is a little old now?

No, it normally works very well indeed, updating only adds more bells
and whistles.

I don't even recall if it could
manage the server port changes demanded these days.

It does..

On Monday, 20 May 2019 08:16:43 UTC+1, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Brian Gaff presented the following explanation :

Don't you think 97 is a little old now?

No, it normally works very well indeed, updating only adds more bells
and whistles.

Glad to hear you're not still running W98


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Harry Bloomfield Wrote in message:
My outbox is completely empty, but when I click send/receive, or it
does an automatic one, it complains that it is unable to send 4 of 4
emails.
It seems to be trying to send via Tiscali's (talktalk) server, which I
am no longer with, so no possibility to send via them. I can receive
mail via Tiscali, but not send.


But don't you have a suite of folders (inbox, outbox, sent items,
etc) for EACH mail account?
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Glad to hear you're not still running W98

Naw - Win 3.1..

Graham. has brought this to us :
But don't you have a suite of folders (inbox, outbox, sent items,
etc) for EACH mail account?

No, I have it sorting incoming mail into folders based on the subject
line. 10 folders in total, but just one outbox and the outbox is empty.
A bit of reading suggests these stuck emails are read receipts,
probably automatic read receipts, which do not appear in the outbox.
Mail which came in via Tiscali, but read receipts would not have been
able to be sent out by Tiscali servers, because they do not allow it.

Harry Bloomfield laid this down on his screen :
Graham. has brought this to us :
But don't you have a suite of folders (inbox, outbox, sent items,
etc) for EACH mail account?

No, I have it sorting incoming mail into folders based on the subject line.
10 folders in total, but just one outbox and the outbox is empty. A bit of
reading suggests these stuck emails are read receipts, probably automatic
read receipts, which do not appear in the outbox. Mail which came in via
Tiscali, but read receipts would not have been able to be sent out by Tiscali
servers, because they do not allow it.

Just to be clear - I log into several of my accounts including tiscali,
to grab mail, because several people contact me via those old accounts.
I wonder if there is some setting in Outlook to ensure all outgoing
mail goes out via one account, irrespective of the account it came in
on?

On 20/05/2019 10:03, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
pretended :
Glad to hear you're not still running W98

Naw - Win 3.1..

There's the explanation. Office 97 required at least Windows 95 or NT
3.51. So it's all been a dream; you are Bobby Ewing* AICMFP


*but please note I /never/ watched Dallas


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On 20/05/2019 10:14, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Harry Bloomfield laid this down on his screen :
Graham. has brought this to us :
But don't you have a suite of folders (inbox, outbox,* sent items,
* etc) for EACH mail account?

No, I have it sorting incoming mail into folders based on the subject
line. 10 folders in total, but just one outbox and the outbox is
empty. A bit of reading suggests these stuck emails are read receipts,
probably automatic read receipts, which do not appear in the outbox.
Mail which came in via Tiscali, but read receipts would not have been
able to be sent out by Tiscali servers, because they do not allow it.

Just to be clear - I log into several of my accounts including tiscali,
to grab mail, because several people contact me via those old accounts.
I wonder if there is some setting in Outlook to ensure all outgoing mail
goes out via one account, irrespective of the account it came in on?

Distant memory suggests not if you /reply/ to emails. All you can set
is the default for /new/ email.

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Robin submitted this idea :
On 20/05/2019 10:14, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Harry Bloomfield laid this down on his screen :
Graham. has brought this to us :
But don't you have a suite of folders (inbox, outbox,* sent items,
* etc) for EACH mail account?

No, I have it sorting incoming mail into folders based on the subject
line. 10 folders in total, but just one outbox and the outbox is empty. A
bit of reading suggests these stuck emails are read receipts, probably
automatic read receipts, which do not appear in the outbox. Mail which
came in via Tiscali, but read receipts would not have been able to be sent
out by Tiscali servers, because they do not allow it.

Just to be clear - I log into several of my accounts including tiscali, to
grab mail, because several people contact me via those old accounts. I
wonder if there is some setting in Outlook to ensure all outgoing mail goes
out via one account, irrespective of the account it came in on?

Distant memory suggests not if you /reply/ to emails. All you can set is the
default for /new/ email.

Without my doing anything, the problem has gone away. Weird..

Time to own up, I'm actually running Win10 64bit as the OS, using MS
Office 97 because it does all that I want and more.

I was laughed at a week and a half ago, because I went in a shop to ask
the cost of replacing the battery in my old Iphone 3. It's battery had
recently died, but it did all that I thought I needed - I was wrong. I
decided a newer one wouldn't cost much more that a battery, so I bought
a new old stock SE. Its a really impressive step up in speed and the
apps it will run. Even more impressive, some of the apps are more
functional on the phone, than on the PC - as if the PC versions are an
afterthought.

On Monday, 20 May 2019 19:26:20 UTC+1, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Without my doing anything, the problem has gone away. Weird..

May have been something stuck on the SMTP/POP3/IMAP server which has got resolved.

Your email got sent, but the server didn't respond that it had been sent, so it still showed as unsent but wasn't there.

And now it's all synchronised itselves together.

Owain