Building a veg plot irrigation system.....
 

I now have a water supply via 22mm PEX pipe to the corner of my veg plot with a John Guest 22mm stopvalve the end of it.

I've been looking at various options for setting up an irrigation system for the veg plot to connect to my water stopvalve.

I looked at the black piping kits from Hozelock with all the drippers and soaking hoses. They seem expensive for what they are.

It then struck me it might be more cost effective to use Hep2o or flomasta PEX pipe and fittings particularly as all the Tees and elbows and pipe stiffeners can be re-used again from year to year.

I could also put in isolating valves for each veg row so when out of season, turn the water off for that veg row etc,

I could either:

(a) use a row of 15mm tees & reduce down to 10mm for individual pots along the pipe run

(b) even put a stop end on the end of a 15mm pipe run and drill 3mm holes at regular intervals and place along a row of veg to water rows of veg.

Anyone been down this route before and got any comment to make?

S.

Building a veg plot irrigation system.....
 

On Mon, 29 Apr 2019 14:57:38 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

I now have a water supply via 22mm PEX pipe to the corner of my veg plot with a John Guest 22mm stopvalve the end of it.

I've been looking at various options for setting up an irrigation system for the veg plot to connect to my water stopvalve.

I looked at the black piping kits from Hozelock with all the drippers and soaking hoses. They seem expensive for what they are.

It then struck me it might be more cost effective to use Hep2o or flomasta PEX pipe and fittings particularly as all the Tees and elbows and pipe stiffeners can be re-used again from year to year.

I could also put in isolating valves for each veg row so when out of season, turn the water off for that veg row etc,

I could either:

(a) use a row of 15mm tees & reduce down to 10mm for individual pots along the pipe run

(b) even put a stop end on the end of a 15mm pipe run and drill 3mm holes at regular intervals and place along a row of veg to water rows of veg.

Anyone been down this route before and got any comment to make?

S.

Ebay have loads of small 12V centrifugal pumps, timers, soil
conductivity meters and small bore tubing. I bought quite a lot of the
stuff. Easy to use over a season and the tubing can be reused or
dumped if a change to the plot is needed.

Not good for 1/2 an acre, but for a small enclosed garden it's cheap.

AB

Building a veg plot irrigation system.....
 

On Monday, 29 April 2019 22:57:41 UTC+1, wrote:
I now have a water supply via 22mm PEX pipe to the corner of my veg plot with a John Guest 22mm stopvalve the end of it.

I've been looking at various options for setting up an irrigation system for the veg plot to connect to my water stopvalve.

I looked at the black piping kits from Hozelock with all the drippers and soaking hoses. They seem expensive for what they are.

It then struck me it might be more cost effective to use Hep2o or flomasta PEX pipe and fittings particularly as all the Tees and elbows and pipe stiffeners can be re-used again from year to year.

I could also put in isolating valves for each veg row so when out of season, turn the water off for that veg row etc,

I could either:

(a) use a row of 15mm tees & reduce down to 10mm for individual pots along the pipe run

(b) even put a stop end on the end of a 15mm pipe run and drill 3mm holes at regular intervals and place along a row of veg to water rows of veg.

Anyone been down this route before and got any comment to make?

S.

Make your own soaker hose.
Get and old ordinary hose.
Make holes in it with a hammer and nail.

Building a veg plot irrigation system.....
 

on 29/04/2019, supposed :
(b) even put a stop end on the end of a 15mm pipe run and drill 3mm holes at
regular intervals and place along a row of veg to water rows of veg.

That is what I would do, but depending on the length/ number of holes,
you might need to make the holes smaller to ensure there is still
enough water pressure to reach the far holes.

Building a veg plot irrigation system.....
 

On Mon, 29 Apr 2019 14:57:38 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

I've been looking at various options for setting up an irrigation system for the veg plot to connect to my water stopvalve.

I have found "Tropf-Blumat" works. Treznal, but available in the UK.

A clay cone on a water-filled widget opens and closes a thin silicone rubber
tubing, in response to the actual moisture of the soil around the clay cone. Get
the water to the plant bed any which way, and then run silicone tubing through
the device, and lead open droppers off it with tees. one dropper needs to be
near the device, so it shuts off when the soil is moist enough. The silicone
tubing is strictly necessary only in the device, so it can shut off the water,
but it's cheap enough (pound a meter, about) and lasts well.

I like because it works with the water pressure from a head of a few feet of
water, and waters only when dry. No power supply needed. Needs adjusting,
tuning, thought in setting up, though; also paying-for.


Thomas Prufer

Building a veg plot irrigation system.....
 

On Tuesday, April 30, 2019 at 8:29:40 AM UTC+1, Thomas Prufer wrote:
On Mon, 29 Apr 2019 14:57:38 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

I've been looking at various options for setting up an irrigation system for the veg plot to connect to my water stopvalve.

I have found "Tropf-Blumat" works. Treznal, but available in the UK.

A clay cone on a water-filled widget opens and closes a thin silicone rubber
tubing, in response to the actual moisture of the soil around the clay cone. Get
the water to the plant bed any which way, and then run silicone tubing through
the device, and lead open droppers off it with tees. one dropper needs to be
near the device, so it shuts off when the soil is moist enough. The silicone
tubing is strictly necessary only in the device, so it can shut off the water,
but it's cheap enough (pound a meter, about) and lasts well.

I like because it works with the water pressure from a head of a few feet of
water, and waters only when dry. No power supply needed. Needs adjusting,
tuning, thought in setting up, though; also paying-for.


Thomas Prufer

I fiddledwith all those things years ago. The attrition rate on the drip feed items could be very high. Eventually I went with a rotating sprinkler on a home made tripod moving it about as necedssary.

Building a veg plot irrigation system.....
 

On Monday, 29 April 2019 22:57:41 UTC+1, wrote:

I now have a water supply via 22mm PEX pipe to the corner of my veg plot with a John Guest 22mm stopvalve the end of it.

I've been looking at various options for setting up an irrigation system for the veg plot to connect to my water stopvalve.

I looked at the black piping kits from Hozelock with all the drippers and soaking hoses. They seem expensive for what they are.

It then struck me it might be more cost effective to use Hep2o or flomasta PEX pipe and fittings particularly as all the Tees and elbows and pipe stiffeners can be re-used again from year to year.

I could also put in isolating valves for each veg row so when out of season, turn the water off for that veg row etc,

I could either:

(a) use a row of 15mm tees & reduce down to 10mm for individual pots along the pipe run

unnecessarily large

(b) even put a stop end on the end of a 15mm pipe run and drill 3mm holes at regular intervals and place along a row of veg to water rows of veg.

too large

Anyone been down this route before and got any comment to make?

S.

Long long ago. Expect jet blockages. Water in hoses freezes, you need a method to handle that. These days I'd be tempted to use a few weep holes & let it drain itself, after checking that it did.


NT

Building a veg plot irrigation system.....
 

In message ,
writes
On Monday, 29 April 2019 22:57:41 UTC+1, wrote:

I now have a water supply via 22mm PEX pipe to the corner of my veg
plot with a John Guest 22mm stopvalve the end of it.

I've been looking at various options for setting up an irrigation
system for the veg plot to connect to my water stopvalve.

I looked at the black piping kits from Hozelock with all the drippers
and soaking hoses. They seem expensive for what they are.

It then struck me it might be more cost effective to use Hep2o or
flomasta PEX pipe and fittings particularly as all the Tees and elbows
and pipe stiffeners can be re-used again from year to year.

I could also put in isolating valves for each veg row so when out of
season, turn the water off for that veg row etc,

I could either:

(a) use a row of 15mm tees & reduce down to 10mm for individual pots
along the pipe run

unnecessarily large

(b) even put a stop end on the end of a 15mm pipe run and drill 3mm
holes at regular intervals and place along a row of veg to water rows
of veg.

too large

Anyone been down this route before and got any comment to make?

S.

Long long ago. Expect jet blockages. Water in hoses freezes, you need a
method to handle that. These days I'd be tempted to use a few weep
holes & let it drain itself, after checking that it did.

There is lots of commercially available *oozy hose*. Some are flat when
not under pressure so presumably frost proof.

--
Tim Lamb

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On Tuesday, April 30, 2019 at 8:29:40 AM UTC+1, Thomas Prufer wrote:
On Mon, 29 Apr 2019 14:57:38 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

I've been looking at various options for setting up an irrigation system
for the veg plot to connect to my water stopvalve.

I have found "Tropf-Blumat" works. Treznal, but available in the UK.

A clay cone on a water-filled widget opens and closes a thin silicone
rubber
tubing, in response to the actual moisture of the soil around the clay
cone. Get
the water to the plant bed any which way, and then run silicone tubing
through
the device, and lead open droppers off it with tees. one dropper needs to
be
near the device, so it shuts off when the soil is moist enough. The
silicone
tubing is strictly necessary only in the device, so it can shut off the
water,
but it's cheap enough (pound a meter, about) and lasts well.

I like because it works with the water pressure from a head of a few feet
of
water, and waters only when dry. No power supply needed. Needs adjusting,
tuning, thought in setting up, though; also paying-for.

I fiddledwith all those things years ago. The attrition rate on the
drip feed items could be very high. Eventually I went with a rotating
sprinkler on a home made tripod moving it about as necedssary.

I used one of these.
https://www.bunnings.com.au/pope-par...nkler_p3122370

Not ideal for tomatoes, they do better with the water applied
to the dirt, not to the foliage.

Building a veg plot irrigation system.....
 

On Tuesday, April 30, 2019 at 2:33:59 PM UTC+1, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message ,
writes
On Monday, 29 April 2019 22:57:41 UTC+1, wrote:

I now have a water supply via 22mm PEX pipe to the corner of my veg
plot with a John Guest 22mm stopvalve the end of it.

I've been looking at various options for setting up an irrigation
system for the veg plot to connect to my water stopvalve.

I looked at the black piping kits from Hozelock with all the drippers
and soaking hoses. They seem expensive for what they are.

It then struck me it might be more cost effective to use Hep2o or
flomasta PEX pipe and fittings particularly as all the Tees and elbows
and pipe stiffeners can be re-used again from year to year.

I could also put in isolating valves for each veg row so when out of
season, turn the water off for that veg row etc,

I could either:

(a) use a row of 15mm tees & reduce down to 10mm for individual pots
along the pipe run

unnecessarily large

(b) even put a stop end on the end of a 15mm pipe run and drill 3mm
holes at regular intervals and place along a row of veg to water rows
of veg.

too large

Anyone been down this route before and got any comment to make?

S.

Long long ago. Expect jet blockages. Water in hoses freezes, you need a
method to handle that. These days I'd be tempted to use a few weep
holes & let it drain itself, after checking that it did.

There is lots of commercially available *oozy hose*. Some are flat when
not under pressure so presumably frost proof.

--
Tim Lamb

One of these https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Water-Spr...IAAOSwd4tTvmXn


There are timers on ebay too
https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_o...timer&_sacat=0

The watering should be a good soak and not daily.

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Building a veg plot irrigation system.....
 

On Tue, 30 Apr 2019 14:33:42 +0100, Tim Lamb
wrote:

There is lots of commercially available *oozy hose*. Some are flat when
not under pressure so presumably frost proof.

There's also the kind made from rubber granulate, oozes along the entire
circumference. Cheap, as I think it's old tires/tyres. Frostproof, weatherproof
over several years at least, IME. Requires mains pressure though.


Thomas Prufer

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It's just that I have a collection of push fit stop ends, equal tees, couplers, elbows and almost 25 m of barrier pipe in my garage.....

It seems practical to try and use this for the plot rather than buying new hozelock or gardena kit.....

And was wanting to keep costs down....

Building a veg plot irrigation system.....
 

Thomas Prufer wrote:

There's also the kind made from rubber granulate, oozes along the entire
circumference. Cheap, as I think it's old tires/tyres. Frostproof, weatherproof
over several years at least, IME. Requires mains pressure though.

I currently use some of that for a rather dry part of my garden.
It works well, though after a few years the pipe is beginning to
fail in places. I can cut out the leak and rejoin, but unless I
am lucky, inserting the plastic fitting splits the pipe again. I
chased one such failure last week for quite some distance before
I got it safely (I hope) rejoined.

Chris
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@ChrisJDixon1

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