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[email protected] April 14th 19 08:18 PM

Halving water bills with large butts?
 
Hi All,

I have heard it suggested that if you get four monster water holders and divert rainwater into them (and do nothing else), then your water co will let you off your sewerage charges.

A quick google only showed one off rebates for filling ponds / swimming pools.

Does anyone have details of such a scheme (I think we are with Southern Water or its descendants).

Best regards

TIA

Chris

Andy Burns[_13_] April 14th 19 08:23 PM

Halving water bills with large butts?
 
wrote:

I have heard it suggested that if you get four monster water holders
and divert rainwater into them (and do nothing else), then your water
co will let you off your sewerage charges.


sewerage charges no, surface water charges, possibly, e.g for Severn
Trent https://www.s****er.co.uk/my-account/our-charges

"What is the surface water drainage charge?

These charges are levied for the removal and treatment of surface water
or rainwater from your property.

Charges are based either on the rateable value of the property or based
on property type, for example terraced, semi-detached or detached. If
your charges are currently based on rateable value you can opt to be
billed based on property type. If no surface water drains from your
property or its surrounding area either directly or indirectly to the
public sewer, you can claim exemption from this charge."

newshound April 14th 19 08:32 PM

Halving water bills with large butts?
 
On 14/04/2019 20:18, wrote:
Hi All,

I have heard it suggested that if you get four monster water holders and divert rainwater into them (and do nothing else), then your water co will let you off your sewerage charges.


If you divert water into them and do nothing else, they will soon fill up.


Bob Eager[_7_] April 14th 19 08:56 PM

Halving water bills with large butts?
 
On Sun, 14 Apr 2019 12:18:44 -0700, cpvh wrote:

Hi All,

I have heard it suggested that if you get four monster water holders and
divert rainwater into them (and do nothing else), then your water co
will let you off your sewerage charges.

A quick google only showed one off rebates for filling ponds / swimming
pools.

Does anyone have details of such a scheme (I think we are with Southern
Water or its descendants).


I think the only way you are let off sewerage charges if if you don't
have a sewer connection!

HOWEVER...if your water is metered, then you will not only save some
money on the water you don't need because of using rainwater, BUT you
will usually find that the sewerage charge is reduced, because it's based
on a percentage of the water that comes in through your meter (round
here, SE Water, it's 92.5%).



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Brian Reay[_6_] April 14th 19 09:04 PM

Halving water bills with large butts?
 
Andy Burns wrote:
wrote:

I have heard it suggested that if you get four monster water holders
and divert rainwater into them (and do nothing else), then your water
co will let you off your sewerage charges.


sewerage charges no, surface water charges, possibly, e.g for Severn
Trent https://www.s****er.co.uk/my-account/our-charges

"What is the surface water drainage charge?

These charges are levied for the removal and treatment of surface water
or rainwater from your property.

Charges are based either on the rateable value of the property or based
on property type, for example terraced, semi-detached or detached. If
your charges are currently based on rateable value you can opt to be
billed based on property type. If no surface water drains from your
property or its surrounding area either directly or indirectly to the
public sewer, you can claim exemption from this charge."


If you have soak-aways you can get the surface water element removed.

It may also be worth considering a meter, assuming you dont already have
one. Weve had one near on 20 years and have saved a fortune. Even when
there were 5 of us at home (3 children have their own places now) were were
saving money, with just 2 of us, the saving is much more, compared to the
fixed bill based on rateable value.


alan_m April 14th 19 11:52 PM

Halving water bills with large butts?
 
On 14/04/2019 21:04, Brian Reay wrote:


If you have soak-aways you can get the surface water element removed.


Not all of it because there is an element related to highway drainage.

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alan_m April 14th 19 11:55 PM

Halving water bills with large butts?
 
On 14/04/2019 20:18, wrote:
Hi All,

I have heard it suggested that if you get four monster water holders and divert rainwater into them (and do nothing else), then your water co will let you off your sewerage charges.

A quick google only showed one off rebates for filling ponds / swimming pools.

Does anyone have details of such a scheme (I think we are with Southern Water or its descendants).

Best regards

TIA

Chris


Thames water:-

"For household customers, the fixed charge is £20.57 for water services
and £70.07 for wastewater services. If your home isnt connected to our
sewer for the purpose of taking away surface water, you can claim a
reduction of £25.15 on the wastewater fixed charge, bringing it to £44.92."

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Brian Gaff April 15th 19 08:18 AM

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No but if your butt is big there is less room in the bath for the water.
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Hi All,

I have heard it suggested that if you get four monster water holders and
divert rainwater into them (and do nothing else), then your water co will
let you off your sewerage charges.

A quick google only showed one off rebates for filling ponds / swimming
pools.

Does anyone have details of such a scheme (I think we are with Southern
Water or it's descendants).

Best regards

TIA

Chris



Dave Liquorice[_2_] April 15th 19 09:52 AM

Halving water bills with large butts?
 
On Sun, 14 Apr 2019 23:55:41 +0100, alan_m wrote:

Thames water:-

"For household customers, the fixed charge is £20.57 for water services
and £70.07 for wastewater services. If your home isn t connected to
our sewer for the purpose of taking away surface water, you can claim a
reduction of £25.15 on the wastewater fixed charge, bringing it to
£44.92."


Presumably those are standing charges per annum for a metered supply
and there are volume charges in addition?

Says him with a £360/annum, un metered, supply only, water bill.

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Biggles[_3_] April 15th 19 10:41 AM

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Wrote in message:
Hi All, I have heard it suggested that if you get four monster water holders and divert rainwater into them (and do nothing else), then your water co will let you off your sewerage charges. A quick google only showed one off rebates for filling ponds / swimming pools. Does anyone have details of such a scheme (I think we are with Southern Water or it?s descendants). Best regardsTIAChris


Anglian Water suggested I get a sub-meter to measure what I use
for watering the garden, car washing etc, e.g. anything which
doesn't drain into the sewer. They then deduct an appropriate
amount for the sewerage not used. I assumed they would charge a
lot to install a sub-meter, but they directed me to Amazon (£20
odd quids), for a meter which connects in-line with the outside
tap and hose pipe. Not something they advertise, so may be worth
asking your water company if they allow the same
deduction.
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[email protected] April 15th 19 12:56 PM

Halving water bills with large butts?
 
Thanks Peeps, interesting stuff, especially Biggles.

We are on a meter, all our surface and waste water goes down the same manhole into the sewerage system (has dome in all our houses)

One thing I did spot somewhere is that if you use a load of water you wouldn't normally use that doesnt go to the sewer (ie, filling a pond / pool), then you can claim a rebate for that amount.

We did have the builders in (not a euphemism!).
Last year, and they used a lot of water, I suppose that which went into mortar & plaster wont have gone to Sewerage at the very least.

alan_m April 16th 19 09:17 AM

Halving water bills with large butts?
 
On 15/04/2019 09:52, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Sun, 14 Apr 2019 23:55:41 +0100, alan_m wrote:

Thames water:-

"For household customers, the fixed charge is £20.57 for water services
and £70.07 for wastewater services. If your home isnâ t connected to
our sewer for the purpose of taking away surface water, you can claim a
reduction of £25.15 on the wastewater fixed charge, bringing it to
£44.92."


Presumably those are standing charges per annum for a metered supply
and there are volume charges in addition?


Yes, this is for a metered supply and there are additional volume
charges. Wastewater = 82.6p per cubic meter (based on incoming water
consumption). My household consumption is around 60 cubic meters per year.

water supply = approx £100 (supply is £1.30 per cubic meter)
waste water = approx £120

Where there is no meter the wastewater charge is based on the property
rateable value but again with only a £25 reduction is you don't
discharge rainwater into their sewer. As before, the wastewater charge
includes an element based on highway drainage.


Says him with a £360/annum, un metered, supply only, water bill.



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Mathew Newton[_2_] April 16th 19 03:17 PM

Halving water bills with large butts?
 
On Monday, 15 April 2019 12:56:42 UTC+1, wrote:

Last year, and they used a lot of water, I suppose that which went into mortar & plaster wont have gone to Sewerage at the very least.


With many builders some of the mortar and plaster probably did instead! ;-)

whisky-dave[_2_] April 16th 19 03:47 PM

Halving water bills with large butts?
 
On Tuesday, 16 April 2019 15:17:27 UTC+1, Mathew Newton wrote:
On Monday, 15 April 2019 12:56:42 UTC+1, wrote:

Last year, and they used a lot of water, I suppose that which went into mortar & plaster wont have gone to Sewerage at the very least.


With many builders some of the mortar and plaster probably did instead! ;-)


Well when looking at the title all I could think of was kim kardashian water bills.

[email protected] April 17th 19 11:15 PM

Halving water bills with large butts?
 
Congratulations Dave, you win the prize (I make a good straight man).


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