I was sent to empty NHS offices to install fused spurs for roller
shutters (the place can then be refurbed but it's in a bit of a ****
hole and needs protection).

I was given a key and a list of codes for all the internal door locks.

I went there and let myself in.

Five minutes later the joiners turned up. They had a key and a list of
codes.

Twenty minutes later the alarm people turned up. They had a key and a
list of codes.

Thirty minutes later the plumber turned up. He had a key and a list of
codes.

One hour later the NHS maintenance man turned up to let us in. He had
not got a key or a list of codes.


Still. I'll give him his dues. He waited with us all day so that he
could "lock up". He did this by borrowing my key as I was the last one
to leave.


--


Adam

ARW wrote:
I was sent to empty NHS offices to install fused spurs for roller
shutters (the place can then be refurbed but it's in a bit of a ****
hole and needs protection).

I was given a key and a list of codes for all the internal door locks.

I went there and let myself in.

Five minutes later the joiners turned up. They had a key and a list of
codes.

Twenty minutes later the alarm people turned up. They had a key and a
list of codes.

Thirty minutes later the plumber turned up. He had a key and a list of
codes.

One hour later the NHS maintenance man turned up to let us in. He had
not got a key or a list of codes.


Still. I'll give him his dues. He waited with us all day so that he
could "lock up". He did this by borrowing my key as I was the last one
to leave.


Harry likes to remind us occasionally how he had a career in the NHS on the
maintenance side,
He may have trained him in the art of doing bugger all while pretending to
be important.

GH

On 22/03/2019 00:06, ARW wrote:
I was sent to empty NHS offices to install fused spurs for roller
shutters (the place can then be refurbed but it's in a bit of a ****
hole and needs protection).

I was given a key and a list of codes for all the internal door locks.

I went there and let myself in.

Five minutes later the joiners turned up. They had a key and a list of
codes.

Twenty minutes later the alarm people turned up. They had a key and a
list of codes.

Thirty minutes later the plumber turned up. He had a key and a list of
codes.

One hour later the NHS maintenance man turned up to let us in. He had
not got a key or a list of codes.


Still. I'll give him his dues. He waited with us all day so that he
could "lock up". He did this by borrowing my key as I was the last one
to leave.

Public sector.
Bill

On Friday, 22 March 2019 02:10:43 UTC, Bill Wright wrote:
Public sector.

Indeed.

Outside there's a man with a digger moving a pile of earth from over here to over there, and another man standing watching.

Local council.

And it's not on the highway or anywhere with access to the public, so they don't need "guarding"

Owain

Having a lookout is not unique to the public sector, you see plenty on jobs undertaken by private contractors with lookouts. For all we know it might be a health and safety requirement in any circumstances where mechanical digging is taking place, perhaps someone in the know might enlighten us. At the end of the day it is probably cheaper to pay a guy to stand there rather than a payout to some phone zombie who has got clattered with the bucket, then there is always the professional compensation seeker eg Uncle Albert - Only Fools & Horses.

Richard

Not surprised as NHS are not known for their logic in such situations. Its a
bit like the lift in our local guild hall, some of us go there regularly and
know the lift code to the inner sanctum rooms upstairs its not been changed
in years. I was standing in the Foyer last November talking to a friend when
along comes the security man with a visitor and after attempting to call the
lift for a while started asking about the thing. A chorus of us answered
him with the code. Nobody seemed to think this situation unusual in the
slightest. So if the security man does not know the code but all the
external people do, what would you think about the security of the building?

Yes me too, but I gave up long ago trying to contact anyone who could sort
it and the code is still the same.

I suspect its just how things are in statutory body world.
Brian

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"ARW" wrote in message
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I was sent to empty NHS offices to install fused spurs for roller shutters
(the place can then be refurbed but it's in a bit of a **** hole and needs
protection).

I was given a key and a list of codes for all the internal door locks.

I went there and let myself in.

Five minutes later the joiners turned up. They had a key and a list of
codes.

Twenty minutes later the alarm people turned up. They had a key and a list
of codes.

Thirty minutes later the plumber turned up. He had a key and a list of
codes.

One hour later the NHS maintenance man turned up to let us in. He had not
got a key or a list of codes.


Still. I'll give him his dues. He waited with us all day so that he could
"lock up". He did this by borrowing my key as I was the last one to leave.


--


Adam

On Friday, 22 March 2019 09:28:54 UTC, Tricky Dicky wrote:
Having a lookout is not unique to the public sector, you see
plenty on jobs undertaken by private contractors with lookouts.
For all we know it might be a health and safety requirement in
any circumstances where mechanical digging is taking place,
perhaps someone in the know might enlighten us.

The watching man is now sitting in the van with the lights on (and presumably the heater and engine running).

Owain

On Friday, 22 March 2019 09:28:54 UTC, Tricky Dicky wrote:
Having a lookout is not unique to the public sector, you see plenty on jobs undertaken by private contractors with lookouts. For all we know it might be a health and safety requirement.

If he was a professional H&S person he would have both hands in his pockets :-)

In article ,
writes
On Friday, 22 March 2019 02:10:43 UTC, Bill Wright wrote:
Public sector.

Indeed.

Outside there's a man with a digger moving a pile of earth from over
here to over there, and another man standing watching.

Local council.

And it's not on the highway or anywhere with access to the public, so
they don't need "guarding"

Owain

Quite farcical I thought on BBC News last night from Brussels. A
presenter there to ask a question of the European Editor who could
easily have given her comments without the question and then there was
the Chief Political Correspondent who was also asked a question by the
presenter and equally she could have just commented without the question
in the first place. Nothing she said couldn't have been said by the
European Editor. So 3 people doing a job which only required one and to
of whom had gone to Brussels solely for this purpose. And now they want
over 75s to pay for a TV licence.
--
bert

On 22/03/2019 12:48, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , Jethro_uk
wrote:

On Fri, 22 Mar 2019 09:33:52 +0000, Brian Gaff wrote:

So if the security man does not know the code but all the external
people do, what would you think about the security of the building?

Most "security" is really theatre. However pointing it out immediately
makes you a suspect, so it's best to keep mum ....

As Richard Feynman pointed out in one of his books. During the war he
got a bit of a rep as a safebreaker largely because he could often
figure out what the safe's owner (often a bigwig general) or scientist
would set it to.

The generals usually left them at factory default, the scientists very
often to e or pi.

In the EMU unit for eledrely people with dementia that my mother died
in, the code to the rear entrance was given to every guest and written
on the wall of reception....

'They dont remember what it is even if they read it at the desk, so they
can't just wander off'


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On Friday, 22 March 2019 12:59:33 UTC, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 22/03/2019 12:48, Tim Streater wrote:


The generals usually left them at factory default, the scientists very
often to e or pi.


Yeah they should enterc pi with all it;s 31 trillion digits, I;d say that would be pretty secure ;-)

In the EMU unit for eledrely people with dementia that my mother died
in, the code to the rear entrance was given to every guest and written
on the wall of reception....

The care home were my mum was has a 4 digit code and that was the month and year
so this months code would be 0319.

I did wonder whether or not all the care homes that the company owned used the same system.

But I admit the same as really passwords are hard to remember and we are
often told not to record them anywhere, which means they need to be
something memorable in the life of the person concerned, so if somebody knew
me intimately they could probably get it in three or four tries.
Brian

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In article , Jethro_uk
wrote:

On Fri, 22 Mar 2019 09:33:52 +0000, Brian Gaff wrote:

So if the security man does not know the code but all the external
people do, what would you think about the security of the building?

Most "security" is really theatre. However pointing it out immediately
makes you a suspect, so it's best to keep mum ....

As Richard Feynman pointed out in one of his books. During the war he
got a bit of a rep as a safebreaker largely because he could often
figure out what the safe's owner (often a bigwig general) or scientist
would set it to.

The generals usually left them at factory default, the scientists very
often to e or pi.

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strangled." - Sir Barnett Cocks (1907-1989)

On Friday, 22 March 2019 15:50:54 UTC, Brian Gaff wrote:
But I admit the same as really passwords are hard to remember and we are
often told not to record them anywhere,

I have at least 30 passwords, of course I can;t rememebr them all.
But while they say don;t write them down, I do.
Now I'll give an example of one I can remmerb that I have written down.

if someone takes my computer and backup stuff they won't find this pasword
unless they also steal the toilet cystem as I used to keep some passwords in their in a water protected bag and box.

Now the chances of someone wanting my PW might well take my computer thinking I;ve written it in some file, so unless they took my raid my toilet cysten too they;d be out of luck and even if they did, it's in my own cryptic code anyway.
SO some letter/digits are missing and only I can guess what they are, of course the theif might get lucky, but on watching last night ITV IIRC how easy it is for people to scam bank cards.... well .




which means they need to be
something memorable in the life of the person concerned, so if somebody knew
me intimately they could probably get it in three or four tries.

Depends how intimately :-

"bert" wrote in message
...
In article ,
writes
On Friday, 22 March 2019 02:10:43 UTC, Bill Wright wrote:
Public sector.

Indeed.

Outside there's a man with a digger moving a pile of earth from over here
to over there, and another man standing watching.

Local council.

And it's not on the highway or anywhere with access to the public, so they
don't need "guarding"

Owain

Quite farcical I thought on BBC News last night from Brussels. A presenter
there to ask a question of the European Editor who could easily have given
her comments without the question and then there was the Chief Political
Correspondent who was also asked a question by the presenter and equally
she could have just commented without the question in the first place.
Nothing she said couldn't have been said by the European Editor. So 3
people doing a job which only required one and to of whom had gone to
Brussels solely for this purpose.

And now they want over 75s to pay for a TV licence.

And so you should given that you are likely the only ones watching TV
anymore.

On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 06:21:08 +1100, Jac Brown, better known as cantankerous
trolling senile geezer Rot Speed, wrote:

Correspondent who was also asked a question by the presenter and equally
she could have just commented without the question in the first place.
Nothing she said couldn't have been said by the European Editor. So 3
people doing a job which only required one and to of whom had gone to
Brussels solely for this purpose.

And now they want over 75s to pay for a TV licence.

And so you should given that you are likely the only ones watching TV
anymore.

Darn, and you HAD to **** also in this thread, senile Rot? tsk

--
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"Well you make up a lot of stuff and it's total ******** most of it."
MID:

Brian Gaff wrote

But I admit the same as really passwords are hard to remember and we are
often told not to record them anywhere, which means they need to be
something memorable in the life of the person concerned, so if somebody
knew me intimately

Is that in the biblical sense ?

they could probably get it in three or four tries.

The obvious approach is a decent password manager
so you only have to remember the master password.

"Tim Streater" wrote in message
.. .
In article , Jethro_uk
wrote:

On Fri, 22 Mar 2019 09:33:52 +0000, Brian Gaff wrote:

So if the security man does not know the code but all the external
people do, what would you think about the security of the building?

Most "security" is really theatre. However pointing it out immediately
makes you a suspect, so it's best to keep mum ....

As Richard Feynman pointed out in one of his books. During the war he
got a bit of a rep as a safebreaker largely because he could often
figure out what the safe's owner (often a bigwig general) or scientist
would set it to.

The generals usually left them at factory default, the scientists very
often to e or pi.

--
"A committee is a cul-de-sac down which ideas are lured and then quietly
strangled." - Sir Barnett Cocks (1907-1989)

In article 36891711-14f7-46ec-aef7-
, says...

I have at least 30 passwords, of course I can;t rememebr
them all. But while they say don;t write them down, I do.

Same here - and I even keep them on my PC in a text file named
Pw.txt!

It contaibs a list of clues, such as the first 4 digits of the
address I was living at when PostCodes were first introduced.

This might be followed by xxx meaning the name of the road,
all in lower case, Xxx if it starts with a capital x*x if the
relevant letter is replaced by a symbol (but not an
asterisc!), nnxx if it starts with the house number, nnXxx or
nnx*x are the same variants as before, xxxxR if Road is
appended, etc.

The beginning of another PostCode points to an STD code from
40 years ago (a code no longer in use!)

xbt is a letter followed by a bt phone number we gave up 30
years ago.

xyzemp is my employee number from when I worked for xyz many
years ago. This number got longer with several different
mergers, etc, and the version I use is nothing like the final
one!

None of the source data to which any of this is based will be
found anywhere on my PC or laptop and you would need to know
an awful lot about me to come anywhere near guessing any of
them. The only person who might have a fighting chance is my
wife but I doubt she'd crack more than a few.

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"Terry Casey" wrote in message
...
In article 36891711-14f7-46ec-aef7-
, says...

I have at least 30 passwords, of course I can;t rememebr
them all. But while they say don;t write them down, I do.

Same here - and I even keep them on my PC in a text file named
Pw.txt!

It contaibs a list of clues, such as the first 4 digits of the
address I was living at when PostCodes were first introduced.

This might be followed by xxx meaning the name of the road,
all in lower case, Xxx if it starts with a capital x*x if the
relevant letter is replaced by a symbol (but not an
asterisc!), nnxx if it starts with the house number, nnXxx or
nnx*x are the same variants as before, xxxxR if Road is
appended, etc.

The beginning of another PostCode points to an STD code from
40 years ago (a code no longer in use!)

xbt is a letter followed by a bt phone number we gave up 30
years ago.

xyzemp is my employee number from when I worked for xyz many
years ago. This number got longer with several different
mergers, etc, and the version I use is nothing like the final
one!

None of the source data to which any of this is based will be
found anywhere on my PC or laptop and you would need to know
an awful lot about me to come anywhere near guessing any of
them. The only person who might have a fighting chance is my
wife but I doubt she'd crack more than a few.

Makes a lot more sense to use a decent password manager.

On Mon, 25 Mar 2019 08:10:45 +1100, cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rot
Speed blabbered, again:

None of the source data to which any of this is based will be
found anywhere on my PC or laptop and you would need to know
an awful lot about me to come anywhere near guessing any of
them. The only person who might have a fighting chance is my
wife but I doubt she'd crack more than a few.

Makes a lot more sense to use a decent password manager.

It would even make a lot more sense if shut your stupid senile gob finally
....and for good, you obnoxious senile pest!

--
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"You are still an idiot and an embarrassment to your country. No wonder
we shippe the likes of you out of the British Isles. Perhaps stupidity
and criminality is inherited after all?"
Message-ID:

On Sunday, 24 March 2019 21:11:01 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"Terry Casey" wrote in message
...
In article 36891711-14f7-46ec-aef7-
, says...

I have at least 30 passwords, of course I can;t rememebr
them all. But while they say don;t write them down, I do.

Same here - and I even keep them on my PC in a text file named
Pw.txt!

It contaibs a list of clues, such as the first 4 digits of the
address I was living at when PostCodes were first introduced.

This might be followed by xxx meaning the name of the road,
all in lower case, Xxx if it starts with a capital x*x if the
relevant letter is replaced by a symbol (but not an
asterisc!), nnxx if it starts with the house number, nnXxx or
nnx*x are the same variants as before, xxxxR if Road is
appended, etc.

The beginning of another PostCode points to an STD code from
40 years ago (a code no longer in use!)

xbt is a letter followed by a bt phone number we gave up 30
years ago.

xyzemp is my employee number from when I worked for xyz many
years ago. This number got longer with several different
mergers, etc, and the version I use is nothing like the final
one!

None of the source data to which any of this is based will be
found anywhere on my PC or laptop and you would need to know
an awful lot about me to come anywhere near guessing any of
them. The only person who might have a fighting chance is my
wife but I doubt she'd crack more than a few.

Makes a lot more sense to use a decent password manager.

Not if someone steals yuor computer or managers to get that ONE password for access, and not if you want to get at something which isn't on the computer with the password manager.

whisky-dave Wrote in message:
On Sunday, 24 March 2019 21:11:01 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"Terry Casey" wrote in message
...
In article 36891711-14f7-46ec-aef7-
, says...

I have at least 30 passwords, of course I can;t rememebr
them all. But while they say don;t write them down, I do.

Same here - and I even keep them on my PC in a text file named
Pw.txt!

It contaibs a list of clues, such as the first 4 digits of the
address I was living at when PostCodes were first introduced.

This might be followed by xxx meaning the name of the road,
all in lower case, Xxx if it starts with a capital x*x if the
relevant letter is replaced by a symbol (but not an
asterisc!), nnxx if it starts with the house number, nnXxx or
nnx*x are the same variants as before, xxxxR if Road is
appended, etc.

The beginning of another PostCode points to an STD code from
40 years ago (a code no longer in use!)

xbt is a letter followed by a bt phone number we gave up 30
years ago.

xyzemp is my employee number from when I worked for xyz many
years ago. This number got longer with several different
mergers, etc, and the version I use is nothing like the final
one!

None of the source data to which any of this is based will be
found anywhere on my PC or laptop and you would need to know
an awful lot about me to come anywhere near guessing any of
them. The only person who might have a fighting chance is my
wife but I doubt she'd crack more than a few.

Makes a lot more sense to use a decent password manager.

Not if someone steals yuor computer or managers to get that ONE password for access, and not if you want to get at something which isn't on the computer with the password manager.


Is that woddles?
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On Monday, 25 March 2019 14:28:02 UTC, JimK wrote:
whisky-dave Wrote in message:
On Sunday, 24 March 2019 21:11:01 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"Terry Casey" wrote in message
...
In article 36891711-14f7-46ec-aef7-
, says...

I have at least 30 passwords, of course I can;t rememebr
them all. But while they say don;t write them down, I do.

Same here - and I even keep them on my PC in a text file named
Pw.txt!

It contaibs a list of clues, such as the first 4 digits of the
address I was living at when PostCodes were first introduced.

This might be followed by xxx meaning the name of the road,
all in lower case, Xxx if it starts with a capital x*x if the
relevant letter is replaced by a symbol (but not an
asterisc!), nnxx if it starts with the house number, nnXxx or
nnx*x are the same variants as before, xxxxR if Road is
appended, etc.

The beginning of another PostCode points to an STD code from
40 years ago (a code no longer in use!)

xbt is a letter followed by a bt phone number we gave up 30
years ago.

xyzemp is my employee number from when I worked for xyz many
years ago. This number got longer with several different
mergers, etc, and the version I use is nothing like the final
one!

None of the source data to which any of this is based will be
found anywhere on my PC or laptop and you would need to know
an awful lot about me to come anywhere near guessing any of
them. The only person who might have a fighting chance is my
wife but I doubt she'd crack more than a few.

Makes a lot more sense to use a decent password manager.

Not if someone steals yuor computer or managers to get that ONE password for access, and not if you want to get at something which isn't on the computer with the password manager.


Is that woddles?
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No woddles says he uses as password manager, I don't.

whisky-dave Wrote in message:
On Monday, 25 March 2019 14:28:02 UTC, JimK wrote:
whisky-dave Wrote in message:
On Sunday, 24 March 2019 21:11:01 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"Terry Casey" wrote in message
...
In article 36891711-14f7-46ec-aef7-
, says...

I have at least 30 passwords, of course I can;t rememebr
them all. But while they say don;t write them down, I do.

Same here - and I even keep them on my PC in a text file named
Pw.txt!

It contaibs a list of clues, such as the first 4 digits of the
address I was living at when PostCodes were first introduced.

This might be followed by xxx meaning the name of the road,
all in lower case, Xxx if it starts with a capital x*x if the
relevant letter is replaced by a symbol (but not an
asterisc!), nnxx if it starts with the house number, nnXxx or
nnx*x are the same variants as before, xxxxR if Road is
appended, etc.

The beginning of another PostCode points to an STD code from
40 years ago (a code no longer in use!)

xbt is a letter followed by a bt phone number we gave up 30
years ago.

xyzemp is my employee number from when I worked for xyz many
years ago. This number got longer with several different
mergers, etc, and the version I use is nothing like the final
one!

None of the source data to which any of this is based will be
found anywhere on my PC or laptop and you would need to know
an awful lot about me to come anywhere near guessing any of
them. The only person who might have a fighting chance is my
wife but I doubt she'd crack more than a few.

Makes a lot more sense to use a decent password manager.

Not if someone steals yuor computer or managers to get that ONE password for access, and not if you want to get at something which isn't on the computer with the password manager.


Is that woddles?
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No woddles says he uses as password manager, I don't.



Strange, it read identically to woddles rantings...
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"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Sunday, 24 March 2019 21:11:01 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"Terry Casey" wrote in message
...
In article 36891711-14f7-46ec-aef7-
, says...

I have at least 30 passwords, of course I can;t rememebr
them all. But while they say don;t write them down, I do.

Same here - and I even keep them on my PC in a text file named
Pw.txt!

It contaibs a list of clues, such as the first 4 digits of the
address I was living at when PostCodes were first introduced.

This might be followed by xxx meaning the name of the road,
all in lower case, Xxx if it starts with a capital x*x if the
relevant letter is replaced by a symbol (but not an
asterisc!), nnxx if it starts with the house number, nnXxx or
nnx*x are the same variants as before, xxxxR if Road is
appended, etc.

The beginning of another PostCode points to an STD code from
40 years ago (a code no longer in use!)

xbt is a letter followed by a bt phone number we gave up 30
years ago.

xyzemp is my employee number from when I worked for xyz many
years ago. This number got longer with several different
mergers, etc, and the version I use is nothing like the final
one!

None of the source data to which any of this is based will be
found anywhere on my PC or laptop and you would need to know
an awful lot about me to come anywhere near guessing any of
them. The only person who might have a fighting chance is my
wife but I doubt she'd crack more than a few.

Makes a lot more sense to use a decent password manager.

Not if someone steals yuor computer or managers
to get that ONE password for access,

Trivial to ensure that they can't get that one password.

and not if you want to get at something which isn't
on the computer with the password manager.

The best password managers synch the encrypted password
database over all your computers/tablets/phones.

On Tue, 26 Mar 2019 07:08:02 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rot Speed,
the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


Not if someone steals yuor computer or managers
to get that ONE password for access,

Trivial

What could be more trivial than your trivial senile life and your idiotic
trolling on these groups, you disgusting senile idiot?

--
Norman Wells addressing senile Rot:
"Ah, the voice of scum speaks."
MID:

On Monday, 25 March 2019 16:00:08 UTC, JimK wrote:
whisky-dave Wrote in message:
On Monday, 25 March 2019 14:28:02 UTC, JimK wrote:
whisky-dave Wrote in message:
On Sunday, 24 March 2019 21:11:01 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"Terry Casey" wrote in message
...
In article 36891711-14f7-46ec-aef7-
, says...

I have at least 30 passwords, of course I can;t rememebr
them all. But while they say don;t write them down, I do.

Same here - and I even keep them on my PC in a text file named
Pw.txt!

It contaibs a list of clues, such as the first 4 digits of the
address I was living at when PostCodes were first introduced.

This might be followed by xxx meaning the name of the road,
all in lower case, Xxx if it starts with a capital x*x if the
relevant letter is replaced by a symbol (but not an
asterisc!), nnxx if it starts with the house number, nnXxx or
nnx*x are the same variants as before, xxxxR if Road is
appended, etc.

The beginning of another PostCode points to an STD code from
40 years ago (a code no longer in use!)

xbt is a letter followed by a bt phone number we gave up 30
years ago.

xyzemp is my employee number from when I worked for xyz many
years ago. This number got longer with several different
mergers, etc, and the version I use is nothing like the final
one!

None of the source data to which any of this is based will be
found anywhere on my PC or laptop and you would need to know
an awful lot about me to come anywhere near guessing any of
them. The only person who might have a fighting chance is my
wife but I doubt she'd crack more than a few.

Makes a lot more sense to use a decent password manager.

Not if someone steals yuor computer or managers to get that ONE password for access, and not if you want to get at something which isn't on the computer with the password manager.


Is that woddles?
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No woddles says he uses as password manager, I don't.



Strange, it read identically to woddles rantings...

perhaps to you.

Are you saying woddles types yuor instead of your ?

The rest of yuor **** shovled where it belongs ;-)

whisky-dave Wrote in message:
On Monday, 25 March 2019 16:00:08 UTC, JimK wrote:
whisky-dave Wrote in message:
On Monday, 25 March 2019 14:28:02 UTC, JimK wrote:
whisky-dave Wrote in message:
On Sunday, 24 March 2019 21:11:01 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"Terry Casey" wrote in message
...
In article 36891711-14f7-46ec-aef7-
, says...

I have at least 30 passwords, of course I can;t rememebr
them all. But while they say don;t write them down, I do.

Same here - and I even keep them on my PC in a text file named
Pw.txt!

It contaibs a list of clues, such as the first 4 digits of the
address I was living at when PostCodes were first introduced.

This might be followed by xxx meaning the name of the road,
all in lower case, Xxx if it starts with a capital x*x if the
relevant letter is replaced by a symbol (but not an
asterisc!), nnxx if it starts with the house number, nnXxx or
nnx*x are the same variants as before, xxxxR if Road is
appended, etc.

The beginning of another PostCode points to an STD code from
40 years ago (a code no longer in use!)

xbt is a letter followed by a bt phone number we gave up 30
years ago.

xyzemp is my employee number from when I worked for xyz many
years ago. This number got longer with several different
mergers, etc, and the version I use is nothing like the final
one!

None of the source data to which any of this is based will be
found anywhere on my PC or laptop and you would need to know
an awful lot about me to come anywhere near guessing any of
them. The only person who might have a fighting chance is my
wife but I doubt she'd crack more than a few.

Makes a lot more sense to use a decent password manager.

Not if someone steals yuor computer or managers to get that ONE password for access, and not if you want to get at something which isn't on the computer with the password manager.


Is that woddles?
--
Jim K


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No woddles says he uses as password manager, I don't.



Strange, it read identically to woddles rantings...

perhaps to you.

Yes hence *my* post...

Are you saying woddles types yuor instead of your ?

The rest of yuor **** shovled where it belongs ;-)

The similarities are even more breathtaking than I first suspected...

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