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Lowering a shower rail
I'm under pressure from Management to lower our shower rail by around
100mm but I really don't want to have to drill the tiles and to have to fill the holes for the existing fitting (as shown at https://www.screwfix.com/p/smith-loc...-2-pack/9070v). Is anyone aware of a fitting that would do the job? Hanging the rail from the ceiling isn't going to be an option. -- F |
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On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 18:20:21 +0000
F news@nowhere wrote: I'm under pressure from Management to lower our shower rail by around 100mm but I really don't want to have to drill the tiles and to have to fill the holes for the existing fitting (as shown at https://www.screwfix.com/p/smith-loc...-2-pack/9070v). Is anyone aware of a fitting that would do the job? Hanging the rail from the ceiling isn't going to be an option. Get a bit of chunky aluminium strip (or stainless steel, but aluminium will be much easier to work with|) to bridge the gap between the original fixings and the lowered shower rail. |
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On Monday, 11 March 2019 18:20:25 UTC, F wrote:
I'm under pressure from Management to lower our shower rail by around 100mm but I really don't want to have to drill the tiles and to have to fill the holes for the existing fitting (as shown at https://www.screwfix.com/p/smith-loc...lished-chrome- 25mm-2-pack/9070v). Is anyone aware of a fitting that would do the job? Conduit box at existing location, drop down in 25mm conduit, conduit box with dome lid and horizontal rail into 25mm dome lid. If you can't get chrome conduit stuff build it and take it to a chromium-plater. Owain |
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On 11/03/2019 18:20, F wrote:
I'm under pressure from Management to lower our shower rail by around 100mm but I really don't want to have to drill the tiles and to have to fill the holes for the existing fitting (as shown at https://www.screwfix.com/p/smith-loc...-2-pack/9070v). Is anyone aware of a fitting that would do the job? Hanging the rail from the ceiling isn't going to be an option. Depends on how "handy" you are. Personally, I would bite the bullet and redrill and fill. But you could make a pair of fishplates, bits of sheet material at least 10 mm thick, same width as the existing fitting, and about 140 mm long. Round the ends to make it look neat. At the top, drill three holes to take the existing screws. At the bottom, drill a single hole to take the curtain rod. You would probably want to bed it on a bit of silicone or similar to prevent it moving away from the tiles. Materials: timber or plywood is most readily available and easy to work, but you would need to varnish or paint it effectively. If you happen to have any offcuts of Mermaid board or similar, that would be ideal. Or you could buy sheet Polythene, PVC, Nylon, etc from a specialist plastics supplier. Or a piece of brass or even stainless steel if you have access to such things. Much more work than drilling and filling, though. |
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F used his keyboard to write :
I'm under pressure from Management to lower our shower rail by around 100mm but I really don't want to have to drill the tiles and to have to fill the holes for the existing fitting (as shown at https://www.screwfix.com/p/smith-loc...-2-pack/9070v). I cannot really work out how you have used that particular fitting on a tiled wall, to support a shower head rail. Surely the shower head rail needed to be vertical, and on a wall that fitting will provide an horizontal bar? Am I misunderstanding the question? |
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"Harry Bloomfield" wrote in message ... F used his keyboard to write : I'm under pressure from Management to lower our shower rail by around 100mm but I really don't want to have to drill the tiles and to have to fill the holes for the existing fitting (as shown at https://www.screwfix.com/p/smith-loc...-2-pack/9070v). I cannot really work out how you have used that particular fitting on a tiled wall, to support a shower head rail. Surely the shower head rail needed to be vertical, and on a wall that fitting will provide an horizontal bar? Am I misunderstanding the question? Looks like it. It appears he is talking about the shower rail that the shower curtain runs on, not the vertical one the shower head runs on. |
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Harry Bloomfield wrote in
: https://www.screwfix.com/p/smith-loc...olished-chrome -25mm-2-pack/9070v Curtain rail? |
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On 11/03/2019 23:08, DerbyBorn wrote:
Harry Bloomfield wrote in : https://www.screwfix.com/p/smith-loc...olished-chrome -25mm-2-pack/9070v Curtain rail? That was certainly my assumption too. |
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On 11/03/2019 23:22, newshound wrote:
On 11/03/2019 23:08, DerbyBorn wrote: Harry Bloomfield wrote in : https://www.screwfix.com/p/smith-loc...olished-chrome -25mm-2-pack/9070v Curtain rail? That was certainly my assumption too. And you were not wrong! -- F |
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On Monday, 11 March 2019 18:20:25 UTC, F wrote:
I'm under pressure from Management to lower our shower rail by around 100mm but I really don't want to have to drill the tiles and to have to fill the holes for the existing fitting (as shown at https://www.screwfix.com/p/smith-loc...-2-pack/9070v). Is anyone aware of a fitting that would do the job? Hanging the rail from the ceiling isn't going to be an option. There are too many unknowns in your question to effectively answer it NT |
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On 11/03/2019 18:20, F wrote:
I'm under pressure from Management to lower our shower rail by around 100mm but I really don't want to have to drill the tiles and to have to fill the holes for the existing fitting (as shown at https://www.screwfix.com/p/smith-loc...-2-pack/9070v). Is anyone aware of a fitting that would do the job? Hanging the rail from the ceiling isn't going to be an option. Use a piece of 3mm or 4mm sheet aluminium. Make it the width of the fittings and the necessary height to give the drop you require. The ends should be exactly the same profile as the footprint of the fittings, so use the fitting as a template for the rounded ends. Drill the holes at the top to take the screws that will go into the wall. Countersink the holes. To hold the fitting use self tappers with heads that fit the countersink in the fitting. Use over-long self tappers then grind off the excess length on the other side so it is flush with the aluminium. The holes should be positioned so that the rounded end of the sheet is exactly flush with the edge of the fitting. Sand the completed aluminium to provide a key. Spray with aluminium primer. Paint matt grey, at least six coats. Bill |
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wrote in message ... On Monday, 11 March 2019 18:20:25 UTC, F wrote: I'm under pressure from Management to lower our shower rail by around 100mm but I really don't want to have to drill the tiles and to have to fill the holes for the existing fitting (as shown at https://www.screwfix.com/p/smith-loc...-2-pack/9070v). Is anyone aware of a fitting that would do the job? Hanging the rail from the ceiling isn't going to be an option. There are too many unknowns in your question to effectively answer it Not when you realise its a shower curtain rail. |
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On 11/03/2019 21:39, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
F used his keyboard to write : I'm under pressure from Management to lower our shower rail by around 100mm but I really don't want to have to drill the tiles and to have to fill the holes for the existing fitting (as shown at https://www.screwfix.com/p/smith-loc...-2-pack/9070v). I cannot really work out how you have used that particular fitting on a tiled wall, to support a shower head rail. Surely the shower head rail needed to be vertical, and on a wall that fitting will provide an horizontal bar? Am I misunderstanding the question? Shower curtain rail? I can see no reason for lowering a curtain rail apart from it being to high for the length of curtain. -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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On Monday, 11 March 2019 18:20:25 UTC, F wrote:
I'm under pressure from Management to lower our shower rail by around 100mm but I really don't want to have to drill the tiles and to have to fill the holes for the existing fitting (as shown at https://www.screwfix.com/p/smith-loc...-2-pack/9070v). Is anyone aware of a fitting that would do the job? Hanging the rail from the ceiling isn't going to be an option. -- F You can get telescopic rails with a spring inside. Only works if the shower is in an alcove, ie tiles/wall on three sides. |
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On 12/03/2019 04:28, Bill Wright wrote:
On 11/03/2019 18:20, F wrote: I'm under pressure from Management to lower our shower rail by around 100mm but I really don't want to have to drill the tiles and to have to fill the holes for the existing fitting (as shown at https://www.screwfix.com/p/smith-loc...-2-pack/9070v). Is anyone aware of a fitting that would do the job? Hanging the rail from the ceiling isn't going to be an option. Use a piece of 3mm or 4mm sheet aluminium. Make it the width of the fittings and the necessary height to give the drop you require. The ends should be exactly the same profile as the footprint of the fittings, so use the fitting as a template for the rounded ends. Drill the holes at the top to take the screws that will go into the wall. Countersink the holes. To hold the fitting use self tappers with heads that fit the countersink in the fitting. Use over-long self tappers then grind off the excess length on the other side so it is flush with the aluminium. The holes should be positioned so that the rounded end of the sheet is exactly flush with the edge of the fitting. Sand the completed aluminium to provide a key. Spray with aluminium primer. Paint matt grey, at least six coats. Bill Yes, that would do too. |
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On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 18:20:21 +0000, F news@nowhere wrote:
Is anyone aware of a fitting that would do the job? Spring-loaded rail? Thomas Prufer |
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On 12/03/2019 16:10, Thomas Prufer wrote:
On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 18:20:21 +0000, F news@nowhere wrote: Is anyone aware of a fitting that would do the job? Spring-loaded rail? Thomas Prufer Leave the original rail up and string, rope or wire or gaffer tape another parallel rail below to hang the curtains on. Inform management that the issue has been resolved with a workaround. Do not leave promises to make better, ye could say 'monitoring the situation' without much risk, and if the string/wire/tapes breaks just repeat the original fix. -- Adrian C |
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On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 16:58:46 +0000, Adrian Caspersz wrote:
Leave the original rail up and string, rope or wire or gaffer tape another parallel rail below to hang the curtains on. Inform management that the issue has been resolved with a workaround. Do not leave promises to make better, ye could say 'monitoring the situation' without much risk, and if the string/wire/tapes breaks just repeat the original fix. .... or "extend" the holes in the curtain upwards with cable ties? .... add extra length to the bottom of the curtain with gaffer tape and old Aldi bags? Thomas Prufer |
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On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 04:28:26 +0000
Bill Wright wrote: To hold the fitting use self tappers with heads that fit the countersink in the fitting. Use over-long self tappers then grind off the excess length on the other side so it is flush with the aluminium. I'd countersink the back and maybe use domed nuts on the front, with conical washers if necessary to seat them properly on the flange. |
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On 12/03/2019 07:44, harry wrote:
You can get telescopic rails with a spring inside. Only works if the shower is in an alcove, ie tiles/wall on three sides. And my experience they fall down shortly after fitting, and especially when pulling on the shower curtain to close/open it. -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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Thomas Prufer wrote:
On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 16:58:46 +0000, Adrian Caspersz wrote: Leave the original rail up and string, rope or wire or gaffer tape another parallel rail below to hang the curtains on. Inform management that the issue has been resolved with a workaround. Do not leave promises to make better, ye could say 'monitoring the situation' without much risk, and if the string/wire/tapes breaks just repeat the original fix. ... or "extend" the holes in the curtain upwards with cable ties? ... add extra length to the bottom of the curtain with gaffer tape and old Aldi bags? Thomas Prufer The problem may be reaching the top of the curtain to pull it along easily, rather than the length of the curtain. -- Roger Hayter |
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On 12/03/2019 19:16, Roger Hayter wrote:
Thomas Prufer The problem may be reaching the top of the curtain to pull it along easily, rather than the length of the curtain. Solved by attaching hanging poles to the curtain leading edges? -- Adrian C |
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On Tuesday, 12 March 2019 17:15:04 UTC, Thomas Prufer wrote:
... or "extend" the holes in the curtain upwards with cable ties? ... add extra length to the bottom of the curtain with gaffer tape and old Aldi bags? Build up the rim of the bath or shower tray with discarded estate agents' "For Sale" boards. Owain |
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On 11/03/2019 18:20, F wrote:
I'm under pressure from Management to lower our shower rail by around 100mm but I really don't want to have to drill the tiles and to have to fill the holes for the existing fitting (as shown at https://www.screwfix.com/p/smith-loc...-2-pack/9070v). Is anyone aware of a fitting that would do the job? Hanging the rail from the ceiling isn't going to be an option. Thanks for the suggestions: plenty to be thinking about there though I have run out of Aldi bags and for sale boards. -- F |
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On Wednesday, 13 March 2019 13:28:33 UTC, F wrote:
Thanks for the suggestions: plenty to be thinking about there though I have run out of Aldi bags and for sale boards. What did you use them for? Owain |
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More Heavy Trolling by Senile Nym-Shifting Rot Speed!
On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 08:46:39 +1100, Jac Brown, better known as cantankerous
trolling senile geezer Rot Speed, wrote: Am I misunderstanding the question? Looks like it. It appears he is talking about the shower rail that the shower curtain runs on, not the vertical one the shower head runs on. Afraid you are in Bloomfield's killfile, you ridiculous nym-shifting senile Ozzie troll? LOL -- "Anonymous" to trolling senile Rot Speed: "You can **** off as you know less than pig **** you sad little ignorant ****." MID: |
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Lonely Psychopathic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! LOL
On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 15:42:18 +1100, cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rot
Speed blabbered, again: I'm under pressure from Management to lower our shower rail by around 100mm but I really don't want to have to drill the tiles and to have to fill the holes for the existing fitting (as shown at https://www.screwfix.com/p/smith-loc...-2-pack/9070v). Is anyone aware of a fitting that would do the job? Hanging the rail from the ceiling isn't going to be an option. There are too many unknowns in your question to effectively answer it Not when you realise it¢s a shower curtain rail. Or when one is pathological know-it-all like you, senile Rot! -- Richard addressing Rot Speed: "**** you're thick/pathetic excuse for a troll." MID: |
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More Heavy Trolling by Senile Nym-Shifting Rot Speed!
On 14/03/2019 11:14, Peeler wrote:
**** off from polluting yet another thread. -- F |
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More Heavy Trolling by Senile Nym-Shifting Rot Speed!
On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 20:28:18 +0000, F, another mentally deficient,
troll-loving, senile idiot, bitched: **** off from polluting yet another thread. Oh, look, the filthy psychopathic Ozzie troll actually has a senile friend! LOL |
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