Costs the same as my old KCOM in Hull!


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On 09/03/2019 22:06, wrote:
Costs the same as my old KCOM in Hull!


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1P7-n7X0AE3puS.jpg

As you've been billed over £16 for additional call charges, might it be
worth upgrading to any-time calls? It'd only cost an extra £4 a month
for anytime calls, including to mobiles.

SteveW

On Saturday, March 9, 2019 at 10:47:35 PM UTC, Steve Walker wrote:
On 09/03/2019 22:06, wrote:
Costs the same as my old KCOM in Hull!


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1P7-n7X0AE3puS.jpg

As you've been billed over £16 for additional call charges, might it be
worth upgrading to any-time calls? It'd only cost an extra £4 a month
for anytime calls, including to mobiles.

SteveW

Problem is that the Mrs spent 1hr10min to her sister in Hull on one call which used to be untimed in KCOM land, but now racked up over £10!

On 09/03/2019 22:56, wrote:
On Saturday, March 9, 2019 at 10:47:35 PM UTC, Steve Walker wrote:
On 09/03/2019 22:06, wrote:
Costs the same as my old KCOM in Hull!


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1P7-n7X0AE3puS.jpg

As you've been billed over £16 for additional call charges, might it be
worth upgrading to any-time calls? It'd only cost an extra £4 a month
for anytime calls, including to mobiles.

SteveW

Problem is that the Mrs spent 1hr10min to her sister in Hull on one call which used to be untimed in KCOM land, but now racked up over £10!


Skype

I did this on Virgin, most operators offer this, however one issue seems to
be that some calls for no good reason seem not to always be included.
Too many different bloody number types around these days.
Brian

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On 09/03/2019 22:06, wrote:
Costs the same as my old KCOM in Hull!


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1P7-n7X0AE3puS.jpg

As you've been billed over £16 for additional call charges, might it be
worth upgrading to any-time calls? It'd only cost an extra £4 a month for
anytime calls, including to mobiles.

SteveW

On Saturday, 9 March 2019 22:56:54 UTC, wrote:
Problem is that the Mrs spent 1hr10min to her sister in Hull on one
call which used to be untimed in KCOM land, but now racked up over £10!

Someone should make a device you can plug into a phone which makes a beep-beep-beep noise after 55 minutes.

Or wire the phone through a clockwork runback timer.

Owain

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On Saturday, 9 March 2019 22:56:54 UTC, wrote:
Problem is that the Mrs spent 1hr10min to her sister in Hull on one
call which used to be untimed in KCOM land, but now racked up over £10!

Someone should make a device you can plug into a phone which makes a
beep-beep-beep noise after 55 minutes.

I actually set up our Asterisk box to give 5 minute, 2 minute and 1
minute verbal warnings, before cutting off with 30 seconds to go!

Moving off the POTS line completely very soon, anyway.

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Problem is that the Mrs spent 1hr10min to her sister in Hull on one call which used to be untimed in KCOM land, but now racked up over £10!

Our VM inclusive call option is only for calls of less than 60
minues duration. If yours is the same, get one of those
kitchen timer things, make sure she uses it and has the alarm
set to 55 minutes. If the alarm goes of, replace phone, then
redial. Rinse and repeat as required!

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explained on 09/03/2019 :
Problem is that the Mrs spent 1hr10min to her sister in Hull on one call
which used to be untimed in KCOM land, but now racked up over £10!

Buy a cheap electronic timer, which beeps after one hour. All you do
then is put the phone down, then redial to continue.

I even have those I ring regularly, checking the length of my calls.

Brian Gaff presented the following explanation :
I did this on Virgin, most operators offer this, however one issue seems to
be that some calls for no good reason seem not to always be included.
Too many different bloody number types around these days.
Brian

Get a notebook and print out which calls are and are not included in
the free calls. Every ISP has a list you can print out. Plusnet's
package includes all the common numbers as part of the package free for
1 hour, then 2000 minutes of free calls to mobiles. I'm not sure
whether the mobile calls have a 1 hour limit or not.

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explained on 09/03/2019 :
Problem is that the Mrs spent 1hr10min to her sister in Hull on one call
which used to be untimed in KCOM land, but now racked up over £10!

Buy a cheap electronic timer, which beeps after one hour. All you do
then is put the phone down, then redial to continue.

I even have those I ring regularly, checking the length of my calls.

I bet.

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On 09/03/2019 22:56, wrote:
On Saturday, March 9, 2019 at 10:47:35 PM UTC, Steve Walker wrote:
On 09/03/2019 22:06, wrote:
Costs the same as my old KCOM in Hull!


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1P7-n7X0AE3puS.jpg

As you've been billed over £16 for additional call charges, might it be
worth upgrading to any-time calls? It'd only cost an extra £4 a month
for anytime calls, including to mobiles.

SteveW

Problem is that the Mrs spent 1hr10min to her sister in Hull on one call
which used to be untimed in KCOM land, but now racked up over £10!


Skype

Makes more sense to have unlimited calls to any landline or mobile
in the country now. I get that for just $10/month on my mobile and
get unlimited texts and MMSs and 1GB of data too. Leaves the
landline service for dead and you can use it anywhere, with just
the one set of contacts and call history fully auto backed up.

Brian Gaff wrote

I did this on Virgin, most operators offer this, however one issue seems
to be that some calls for no good reason seem not to always be included.
Too many different bloody number types around these days.

Quite a few now do unlimited calls and texts and MMSs to any landline or
mobile in the country now with 1GB of data included with mobiles, for just
$10/month. And with a mobile it works anywhere, not just at home.

And you have just the one set of contacts, one call history
and its all fully backed up fully automatically as well.

"Steve Walker" wrote in message
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On 09/03/2019 22:06, wrote:
Costs the same as my old KCOM in Hull!


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1P7-n7X0AE3puS.jpg

As you've been billed over £16 for additional call charges, might it be
worth upgrading to any-time calls? It'd only cost an extra £4 a month for
anytime calls, including to mobiles.

SteveW

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On Saturday, 9 March 2019 22:56:54 UTC, wrote:
Problem is that the Mrs spent 1hr10min to her sister in Hull on one
call which used to be untimed in KCOM land, but now racked up over £10!

Someone should make a device you can plug into a phone which makes a
beep-beep-beep noise after 55 minutes.

Any smartphone can do that.

Or wire the phone through a clockwork runback timer.

Dinosaur stuff.

On 09/03/2019 22:06, wrote:
Costs the same as my old KCOM in Hull!


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1P7-n7X0AE3puS.jpg


Why on earth do you pay for calls, voicemail and then some extra for
more calls (£20+/month)?

Get a £10 sim-free mobile, put one of these inside, and you can talk
24/7 for £6/month:

https://www.uswitch.com/mobiles/sim-...d-5&position=5

And it can even go with you everywhere you go if you so wish...

The only person I know in the world who pays for calls using their
landline in my father in law...

On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 07:20:17 +1100, cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rot
Speed blabbered, again:


Makes more sense to

LOL! Senile Ozzietard knows it BETTER ...AGAIN!

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On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 08:11:44 +1100, cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rot
Speed blabbered, again:
..

Dinosaur stuff.

YOU certainly are, you projecting 85-year-old decrepit senile cretin!

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On Sunday, March 10, 2019 at 9:21:03 PM UTC, JoeJoe wrote:
On 09/03/2019 22:06, wrote:
Costs the same as my old KCOM in Hull!


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1P7-n7X0AE3puS.jpg


Why on earth do you pay for calls, voicemail and then some extra for
more calls (£20+/month)?

Get a £10 sim-free mobile, put one of these inside, and you can talk
24/7 for £6/month:


I don't own a mobile phone and my wife's does not even pick up a signal in our house unless she goes upstairs. I need the landline for my laptop though.

On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 07:39:07 +1100, cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rot
Speed blabbered, again:


I did this on Virgin, most operators offer this, however one issue seems
to be that some calls for no good reason seem not to always be included.
Too many different bloody number types around these days.

Quite a few now do unlimited calls and texts and MMSs to any landline or
mobile in the country now with 1GB of data included with mobiles, for just
$10/month. And with a mobile it works anywhere, not just at home.

When will you finally pull your stupid senile head out of your wrinkled
senile arse, senile Rot?

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On 10/03/2019 22:19, wrote:
On Sunday, March 10, 2019 at 9:21:03 PM UTC, JoeJoe wrote:
On 09/03/2019 22:06, wrote:
Costs the same as my old KCOM in Hull!


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1P7-n7X0AE3puS.jpg


Why on earth do you pay for calls, voicemail and then some extra for
more calls (£20+/month)?

Get a £10 sim-free mobile, put one of these inside, and you can talk
24/7 for £6/month:


I don't own a mobile phone

That sounds very ludditish.

and my wife's does not even pick up a signal in our house unless she goes upstairs.

Have you checked other mobile providers?

I need the landline for my laptop though.

That depends on the speed and data you truly need. There are a number of
mobile contracts that can virtually match a landline, perhaps not fibre
broadband though.

On Sunday, March 10, 2019 at 10:32:10 PM UTC, Fredxx wrote:

I don't own a mobile phone

That sounds very ludditish.

Not really - I have never needed one for anything.

wrote in message
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On Sunday, March 10, 2019 at 10:32:10 PM UTC, Fredxx wrote:

I don't own a mobile phone

That sounds very ludditish.

Not really

Yes, really.

I have never needed one for anything.

Bull****.

On 10/03/2019 22:36, wrote:
On Sunday, March 10, 2019 at 10:32:10 PM UTC, Fredxx wrote:

I don't own a mobile phone

That sounds very ludditish.

Not really - I have never needed one for anything.

There is no need for many things. You could cook on an open fire. You
could wash your clothes between rocks. You could use pen and paper
instead of your laptop.

However in a modern age it is normal to have a mobile phone, in much the
same way you would have a washing machine and an oven. You are of course
free to live in the past.

I now use a mobile for 90% of my calls, where just a couple of calls on
your sat-phone would cost as much as all mine in a month.

On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 09:54:25 +1100, cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rot
Speed blabbered, again:


Not really

Yes, really.

Only in your retarded senile "mind", you brainless consuming asshole!

I have never needed one for anything.

Bull****.

That's what you keep spouting here every day, you abnormal senile Ozzie
pest!

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On Sun, 10 Mar 2019 23:10:29 +0000, Fredxx wrote:

I now use a mobile for 90% of my calls, ...

You must be lucky and have a useable signal anywhere indoors and the
places you go. Upstairs bya window on the right side of the house we
have a useable mobile signal. Go 50 yds down the road there is zilch
on any network.

I do have a mobile, it's setuo to automatically divert to a VOIP
number when it's at home. Be aware that many mobile operators do not
allow customer controlled call forwarding. even using the * codes.
Being able to * code divert to voicemail doesn't mean you can * code
divert to another number.

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On Sun, 10 Mar 2019 22:32:07 +0000, Fredxx wrote:

That depends on the speed and data you truly need. There are a number of
mobile contracts that can virtually match a landline, perhaps not fibre
broadband though.

The speed available is more dependant on the network being used than
contract. The contract needs to be "4G" but most are these days. Then
you need to find out which networks offer useable 4G service where
you want it. 4G here on EE runs at 30 Mbps+ (throughput) some what
faster than the 5 Mbps maximum that the landline can provide. The
line does go through a cabinet, at the exchange which is so far away
they don't even market FTTC to us.

3 offer 4G, Vodfone is 3G, O2 2G!

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On Sunday, March 10, 2019 at 10:54:36 PM UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
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On Sunday, March 10, 2019 at 10:32:10 PM UTC, Fredxx wrote:

I don't own a mobile phone

That sounds very ludditish.

Not really

Yes, really.

I have never needed one for anything.

Bull****.

The ONLY time I needed one was when I broke down in Bavaria and had to ring the AA. Mrs had a brand new Samsung Galaxy, but did not know how to swipe the screen to answer their return call.

Luckily, I was parked in a Shell station, walked into the shop and borrowed their landline phone. That was in 2015 and was the last time I could have used one. Since then, I have used petrol stations' WiFi to access the internet and e-mail with my Acer Aspire notebook.

Mrs M uses her Galaxy to text our daughters on occasions though, but is always moaning about the number of unidentified calls she gets from spam companies and texts that seem to steal her money.

On Sunday, March 10, 2019 at 11:10:31 PM UTC, Fredxx wrote:


However in a modern age it is normal to have a mobile phone, in much the
same way you would have a washing machine and an oven. You are of course
free to live in the past.

I now use a mobile for 90% of my calls, where just a couple of calls on
your sat-phone would cost as much as all mine in a month.

Why DO I need a mobile phone and for what though?
I have a landline for making calls and a laptop for e-mails.

On Monday, March 11, 2019 at 9:50:24 AM UTC, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Sun, 10 Mar 2019 23:10:29 +0000, Fredxx wrote:

I now use a mobile for 90% of my calls, ...

You must be lucky and have a useable signal anywhere indoors and the
places you go. Upstairs bya window on the right side of the house we
have a useable mobile signal. Go 50 yds down the road there is zilch
on any network.

Like I have always said - even as a 'phone they are next to useless, never mind for GPS and watching TV.

On Monday, March 11, 2019 at 10:01:26 AM UTC, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Sun, 10 Mar 2019 22:32:07 +0000, Fredxx wrote:

That depends on the speed and data you truly need. There are a number of
mobile contracts that can virtually match a landline, perhaps not fibre
broadband though.

The speed available is more dependant on the network being used than
contract. The contract needs to be "4G" but most are these days. Then
you need to find out which networks offer useable 4G service where
you want it. 4G here on EE runs at 30 Mbps+ (throughput) some what
faster than the 5 Mbps maximum that the landline can provide. The
line does go through a cabinet, at the exchange which is so far away
they don't even market FTTC to us.

3 offer 4G, Vodfone is 3G, O2 2G!

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Here is my Plusnet speed.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1X2ruTWoAA8aVB.jpg

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wrote:
On Sunday, March 10, 2019 at 11:10:31 PM UTC, Fredxx wrote:


However in a modern age it is normal to have a mobile phone, in much
the same way you would have a washing machine and an oven. You are of
course free to live in the past.

I now use a mobile for 90% of my calls, where just a couple of calls on
your sat-phone would cost as much as all mine in a month.

Why DO I need a mobile phone and for what though?
I have a landline for making calls and a laptop for e-mails.

You should get out more

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wrote:
On Monday, March 11, 2019 at 9:50:24 AM UTC, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Sun, 10 Mar 2019 23:10:29 +0000, Fredxx wrote:

I now use a mobile for 90% of my calls, ...

You must be lucky and have a useable signal anywhere indoors and the
places you go. Upstairs bya window on the right side of the house we
have a useable mobile signal. Go 50 yds down the road there is zilch on
any network.

Like I have always said - even as a 'phone they are next to useless,
never mind for GPS and watching TV.

I can't get a signal indoors - except beside the window of our spare
bedroom. So, I bought a Vodaphone Sure Signal device which allows me &
others to use the phone indoors - via the internet.

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wrote:
On Sunday, March 10, 2019 at 11:10:31 PM UTC, Fredxx wrote:


However in a modern age it is normal to have a mobile phone, in much
the same way you would have a washing machine and an oven. You are
of course free to live in the past.

I now use a mobile for 90% of my calls, where just a couple of calls
on your sat-phone would cost as much as all mine in a month.

Why DO I need a mobile phone and for what though?
I have a landline for making calls and a laptop for e-mails.

Snap!
I have a mobile which I take with me whilst driving - just in case something
bad happens.
It is O2 and it would seem that I have to make a call every 6 months to keep
the account active. I don't like this.
BTW, if you want to create a Yahoo account it would seem that you need a
mobile phone to do so.

charles wrote:

In article ,
wrote:
On Monday, March 11, 2019 at 9:50:24 AM UTC, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Sun, 10 Mar 2019 23:10:29 +0000, Fredxx wrote:

I now use a mobile for 90% of my calls, ...

You must be lucky and have a useable signal anywhere indoors and the
places you go. Upstairs bya window on the right side of the house we
have a useable mobile signal. Go 50 yds down the road there is zilch on
any network.

Like I have always said - even as a 'phone they are next to useless,
never mind for GPS and watching TV.

I can't get a signal indoors - except beside the window of our spare
bedroom. So, I bought a Vodaphone Sure Signal device which allows me &
others to use the phone indoors - via the internet.

That's good, but not as a standby Internet service!

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wrote
Rod Speed wrote
wrote
Fredxx wrote

I don't own a mobile phone

That sounds very ludditish.

Not really

Yes, really.

I have never needed one for anything.

Bull****.

The ONLY time I needed one was when I broke down
in Bavaria and had to ring the AA. Mrs had a brand
new Samsung Galaxy, but did not know how to
swipe the screen to answer their return call.

Thats bull**** too. You must have needed to work out
where to eat or stay and could have used your smartphone
to see whats local and see which looked like worth trying
if you werent such a dinosaur. Instead, you had to waddle
off in person, dragging your immense wheeled bin stuffed
with all those dedicated satnavs and cameras etc.

Luckily, I was parked in a Shell station, walked into
the shop and borrowed their landline phone. That
was in 2015 and was the last time I could have used
one. Since then, I have used petrol stations' WiFi to access
the internet and e-mail with my Acer Aspire notebook.

And that isnt viable when walking around some foreign town.
If you had enough of a clue to have a decent smartphone,
you could just take it out of your pocket and use it.

Mrs M uses her Galaxy to text our daughters on occasions though,
but is always moaning about the number of unidentified calls she
gets from spam companies and texts that seem to steal her money.

Clearly luddites marry luddites.

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On Sunday, March 10, 2019 at 11:10:31 PM UTC, Fredxx wrote:


However in a modern age it is normal to have a mobile phone, in much the
same way you would have a washing machine and an oven. You are of course
free to live in the past.

I now use a mobile for 90% of my calls, where just a couple of calls on
your sat-phone would cost as much as all mine in a month.

Why DO I need a mobile phone and for what though?
I have a landline for making calls and a laptop for e-mails.

For what you need to do when not at home, stupid.

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On Monday, March 11, 2019 at 9:50:24 AM UTC, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Sun, 10 Mar 2019 23:10:29 +0000, Fredxx wrote:

I now use a mobile for 90% of my calls, ...

You must be lucky and have a useable signal anywhere indoors and the
places you go. Upstairs bya window on the right side of the house we
have a useable mobile signal. Go 50 yds down the road there is zilch
on any network.

Like I have always said - even as a 'phone they are next to useless,

Just another of your silly little luddite fantasys.

never mind for GPS

Just another of your silly little luddite fantasys.

"Mr Pounder Esquire" wrote in message
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wrote:
On Sunday, March 10, 2019 at 11:10:31 PM UTC, Fredxx wrote:


However in a modern age it is normal to have a mobile phone, in much
the same way you would have a washing machine and an oven. You are
of course free to live in the past.

I now use a mobile for 90% of my calls, where just a couple of calls
on your sat-phone would cost as much as all mine in a month.

Why DO I need a mobile phone and for what though?
I have a landline for making calls and a laptop for e-mails.

Snap!
I have a mobile which I take with me whilst driving - just in case
something bad happens.
It is O2 and it would seem that I have to make a call every 6 months to
keep the account active. I don't like this.
BTW, if you want to create a Yahoo account it would seem that you need a
mobile phone to do so.

And you need one to do most net banking on your home laptop too.

Corse you dinosaurs just stuff the banknotes under the mattress.

On Monday, March 11, 2019 at 2:20:24 PM UTC, charles wrote:
In article ,
wrote:
On Monday, March 11, 2019 at 9:50:24 AM UTC, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Sun, 10 Mar 2019 23:10:29 +0000, Fredxx wrote:

I now use a mobile for 90% of my calls, ...

You must be lucky and have a useable signal anywhere indoors and the
places you go. Upstairs bya window on the right side of the house we
have a useable mobile signal. Go 50 yds down the road there is zilch on
any network.

Like I have always said - even as a 'phone they are next to useless,
never mind for GPS and watching TV.

I can't get a signal indoors - except beside the window of our spare
bedroom. So, I bought a Vodaphone Sure Signal device which allows me &
others to use the phone indoors - via the internet.

If you watch "Can't Pay, Won't Pay" there are many occasions where the person tries to pay their debt using a card reader, only for there to be no mobile signal, so the enforcers have to drive up country lanes in their van until they can get one bar!

Bloody useless.

On 10/03/2019 22:32, Fredxx wrote:
On 10/03/2019 22:19, wrote:
On Sunday, March 10, 2019 at 9:21:03 PM UTC, JoeJoe wrote:
On 09/03/2019 22:06, wrote:
Costs the same as my old KCOM in Hull!


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1P7-n7X0AE3puS.jpg


Why on earth do you pay for calls, voicemail and then some extra for
more calls (£20+/month)?

Get a £10 sim-free mobile, put one of these inside, and you can talk
24/7 for £6/month:


I don't own a mobile phone

That sounds very ludditish.

and my wife's does not even pick up a signal in our house unless she
goes upstairs.

Have you checked other mobile providers?

I need the landline for my laptop though.

That depends on the speed and data you truly need. There are a number of
mobile contracts that can virtually match a landline, perhaps not fibre
broadband though.

We currently get 40Mb/s on FTTC. While some mobile networks can match
that, they wouldn't allow the data volume (slowing down with high useage
or not allowing tethering at all on unlimited packages) - my eldest son
watches a lot of Netflix and also downloads numerous varieties of OS to
try. One month he managed 450GB by himself!

SteveW