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Another mad washing machine question
If I use pre-wash on a 60 degree wash programme, what temperature is
the pre-wash likely to be? My understanding is that the pre-wash should be at a lower temperature using biological detergent with lots of pauses before moving on to the main wash, where biological detergent should not be needed due to the temperature. |
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Another mad washing machine question
On Saturday, 9 March 2019 16:42:21 UTC, Scott wrote:
If I use pre-wash on a 60 degree wash programme, what temperature is the pre-wash likely to be? My understanding is that the pre-wash should be at a lower temperature using biological detergent with lots of pauses before moving on to the main wash, where biological detergent should not be needed due to the temperature. On most machines, just cold water. Ideal for removing caked on mud (eg football jerseys) |
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Another mad washing machine question
On 10/03/2019 08:13, harry wrote:
On Saturday, 9 March 2019 16:42:21 UTC, Scott wrote: If I use pre-wash on a 60 degree wash programme, what temperature is the pre-wash likely to be? My understanding is that the pre-wash should be at a lower temperature using biological detergent with lots of pauses before moving on to the main wash, where biological detergent should not be needed due to the temperature. On most machines, just cold water. Ideal for removing caked on mud (eg football jerseys) Yes, should be cold, which will also help remove some types of organic soiling which can be cooked on before they get cleaned, such as some proteins (although modern washing machines are all profiled temperature washes, starting off below 35C to achieve this even on high temperature washes). -- Andrew |
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Another mad washing machine question
Its amazing to me how we have got to this washing program place. When I was
young we had a twin tub and it all seemed to be easy, obviously more manual work was involved to some extent, but I do not remember the clothing coming out any less clean than now. Is this all a lot of hype to sell more different washing products at higher prices and to make machines far more complicated? Brian -- ----- -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "harry" wrote in message ... On Saturday, 9 March 2019 16:42:21 UTC, Scott wrote: If I use pre-wash on a 60 degree wash programme, what temperature is the pre-wash likely to be? My understanding is that the pre-wash should be at a lower temperature using biological detergent with lots of pauses before moving on to the main wash, where biological detergent should not be needed due to the temperature. On most machines, just cold water. Ideal for removing caked on mud (eg football jerseys) |
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"Brian Gaff" wrote in message ... Its amazing to me how we have got to this washing program place. When I was young we had a twin tub and it all seemed to be easy, obviously more manual work was involved to some extent, but I do not remember the clothing coming out any less clean than now. Is this all a lot of hype to sell more different washing products at higher prices and to make machines far more complicated? Nope, modern machines do use much less water and are much easier to use, just chuck the clothes in and take them out later when it says its finished. Some not only wash the clothes, they dry them too. Your twin tub never did that. "harry" wrote in message ... On Saturday, 9 March 2019 16:42:21 UTC, Scott wrote: If I use pre-wash on a 60 degree wash programme, what temperature is the pre-wash likely to be? My understanding is that the pre-wash should be at a lower temperature using biological detergent with lots of pauses before moving on to the main wash, where biological detergent should not be needed due to the temperature. On most machines, just cold water. Ideal for removing caked on mud (eg football jerseys) |
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Lonely Psychopathic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert!
On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 07:33:15 +1100, cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rot
Speed blabbered, again: Nope, modern machines do use much less water If someone wanted your senile opinion, senile idiot, they would have rattled your cage! -- Bill Wright to Rot Speed: "That confirms my opinion that you are a despicable little ****." MID: |
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Another mad washing machine question
On Sunday, 10 March 2019 08:35:51 UTC, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
On 10/03/2019 08:13, harry wrote: On Saturday, 9 March 2019 16:42:21 UTC, Scott wrote: If I use pre-wash on a 60 degree wash programme, what temperature is the pre-wash likely to be? My understanding is that the pre-wash should be at a lower temperature using biological detergent with lots of pauses before moving on to the main wash, where biological detergent should not be needed due to the temperature. On most machines, just cold water. Ideal for removing caked on mud (eg football jerseys) Yes, should be cold, which will also help remove some types of organic soiling which can be cooked on before they get cleaned, such as some proteins (although modern washing machines are all profiled temperature washes, starting off below 35C to achieve this even on high temperature washes). -- Andrew It is the reason why all new machines are cold fill. In days of yore, most machines filled with both hot and cold water. |
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"harry" wrote in message ... On Sunday, 10 March 2019 08:35:51 UTC, Andrew Gabriel wrote: On 10/03/2019 08:13, harry wrote: On Saturday, 9 March 2019 16:42:21 UTC, Scott wrote: If I use pre-wash on a 60 degree wash programme, what temperature is the pre-wash likely to be? My understanding is that the pre-wash should be at a lower temperature using biological detergent with lots of pauses before moving on to the main wash, where biological detergent should not be needed due to the temperature. On most machines, just cold water. Ideal for removing caked on mud (eg football jerseys) Yes, should be cold, which will also help remove some types of organic soiling which can be cooked on before they get cleaned, such as some proteins (although modern washing machines are all profiled temperature washes, starting off below 35C to achieve this even on high temperature washes). It is the reason why all new machines are cold fill. Nope, the real reason that all the new machines are cold fill is because they now use so little water that you dont get much if any hot water with a hot fill anymore. In days of yore, most machines filled with both hot and cold water. |
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Lonely Psychopathic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert!
On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 20:22:47 +1100, cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rot
Speed blabbered, again: It is the reason why all new machines are cold fill. Nope HAHAHAHAHAAA!!! Seriously, do you got some sort of tiny orgasm, any time you find an occasion to auto-contradict, you abnormal pathological auto-contradicting senile idiot? LOL -- Kerr-Mudd,John addressing senile Rot: "Auto-contradictor Rod is back! (in the KF)" MID: |
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Another mad washing machine question
On 11/03/2019 08:38, harry wrote:
On Sunday, 10 March 2019 08:35:51 UTC, Andrew Gabriel wrote: On 10/03/2019 08:13, harry wrote: On Saturday, 9 March 2019 16:42:21 UTC, Scott wrote: If I use pre-wash on a 60 degree wash programme, what temperature is the pre-wash likely to be? My understanding is that the pre-wash should be at a lower temperature using biological detergent with lots of pauses before moving on to the main wash, where biological detergent should not be needed due to the temperature. On most machines, just cold water. Ideal for removing caked on mud (eg football jerseys) Yes, should be cold, which will also help remove some types of organic soiling which can be cooked on before they get cleaned, such as some proteins (although modern washing machines are all profiled temperature washes, starting off below 35C to achieve this even on high temperature washes). -- Andrew It is the reason why all new machines are cold fill. In days of yore, most machines filled with both hot and cold water. The reason is that its cheaper and they don't use anything like as much hot water. Hot and Cold fill washing machines had bio cycles which kept the temp down anyway. |
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Another mad washing machine question
"dennis@home" wrote in message ... On 11/03/2019 08:38, harry wrote: On Sunday, 10 March 2019 08:35:51 UTC, Andrew Gabriel wrote: On 10/03/2019 08:13, harry wrote: On Saturday, 9 March 2019 16:42:21 UTC, Scott wrote: If I use pre-wash on a 60 degree wash programme, what temperature is the pre-wash likely to be? My understanding is that the pre-wash should be at a lower temperature using biological detergent with lots of pauses before moving on to the main wash, where biological detergent should not be needed due to the temperature. On most machines, just cold water. Ideal for removing caked on mud (eg football jerseys) Yes, should be cold, which will also help remove some types of organic soiling which can be cooked on before they get cleaned, such as some proteins (although modern washing machines are all profiled temperature washes, starting off below 35C to achieve this even on high temperature washes). -- Andrew It is the reason why all new machines are cold fill. In days of yore, most machines filled with both hot and cold water. The reason is that its cheaper and they don't use anything like as much hot water. The main reason is that since they use so little water at each fill, you would get **** all hot water into the machine even if it did have a hot water line because that little water would just see hot water in the line, not the washing machine. Hot and Cold fill washing machines had bio cycles which kept the temp down anyway. Neither of mine does and they are both older top loader hot and cold fill machines. |
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Another mad washing machine question
On Monday, 11 March 2019 10:29:27 UTC, dennis@home wrote:
On 11/03/2019 08:38, harry wrote: On Sunday, 10 March 2019 08:35:51 UTC, Andrew Gabriel wrote: On 10/03/2019 08:13, harry wrote: On Saturday, 9 March 2019 16:42:21 UTC, Scott wrote: If I use pre-wash on a 60 degree wash programme, what temperature is the pre-wash likely to be? My understanding is that the pre-wash should be at a lower temperature using biological detergent with lots of pauses before moving on to the main wash, where biological detergent should not be needed due to the temperature. On most machines, just cold water. Ideal for removing caked on mud (eg football jerseys) Yes, should be cold, which will also help remove some types of organic soiling which can be cooked on before they get cleaned, such as some proteins (although modern washing machines are all profiled temperature washes, starting off below 35C to achieve this even on high temperature washes). -- Andrew It is the reason why all new machines are cold fill. In days of yore, most machines filled with both hot and cold water. The reason is that its cheaper and they don't use anything like as much hot water. Hot and Cold fill washing machines had bio cycles which kept the temp down anyway. Expense comes into it. But all washing benefits from a start incold water. Stains are not set in by being dunked with hot water. |
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"harry" wrote in message ... On Monday, 11 March 2019 10:29:27 UTC, dennis@home wrote: On 11/03/2019 08:38, harry wrote: On Sunday, 10 March 2019 08:35:51 UTC, Andrew Gabriel wrote: On 10/03/2019 08:13, harry wrote: On Saturday, 9 March 2019 16:42:21 UTC, Scott wrote: If I use pre-wash on a 60 degree wash programme, what temperature is the pre-wash likely to be? My understanding is that the pre-wash should be at a lower temperature using biological detergent with lots of pauses before moving on to the main wash, where biological detergent should not be needed due to the temperature. On most machines, just cold water. Ideal for removing caked on mud (eg football jerseys) Yes, should be cold, which will also help remove some types of organic soiling which can be cooked on before they get cleaned, such as some proteins (although modern washing machines are all profiled temperature washes, starting off below 35C to achieve this even on high temperature washes). -- Andrew It is the reason why all new machines are cold fill. In days of yore, most machines filled with both hot and cold water. The reason is that its cheaper and they don't use anything like as much hot water. Hot and Cold fill washing machines had bio cycles which kept the temp down anyway. Expense comes into it. But all washing benefits from a start incold water. Wrong, as always. Stains are not set in by being dunked with hot water. Not all washing has stains, stupid. |
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On 12/03/2019 08:02, harry wrote:
On Monday, 11 March 2019 10:29:27 UTC, dennis@home wrote: On 11/03/2019 08:38, harry wrote: On Sunday, 10 March 2019 08:35:51 UTC, Andrew Gabriel wrote: On 10/03/2019 08:13, harry wrote: On Saturday, 9 March 2019 16:42:21 UTC, Scott wrote: If I use pre-wash on a 60 degree wash programme, what temperature is the pre-wash likely to be? My understanding is that the pre-wash should be at a lower temperature using biological detergent with lots of pauses before moving on to the main wash, where biological detergent should not be needed due to the temperature. On most machines, just cold water. Ideal for removing caked on mud (eg football jerseys) Yes, should be cold, which will also help remove some types of organic soiling which can be cooked on before they get cleaned, such as some proteins (although modern washing machines are all profiled temperature washes, starting off below 35C to achieve this even on high temperature washes). -- Andrew It is the reason why all new machines are cold fill. In days of yore, most machines filled with both hot and cold water. The reason is that its cheaper and they don't use anything like as much hot water. Hot and Cold fill washing machines had bio cycles which kept the temp down anyway. Expense comes into it. But all washing benefits from a start incold water. Stains are not set in by being dunked with hot water. As I said above H&C fill doesn't mean you always fill with H. |
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Lonely Psychopathic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! LOL
On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 06:30:59 +1100, cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rot
Speed blabbered, again: The reason is that its cheaper and they don't use anything like as much hot water. The main reason is LOL Senile Ozzie troll knows it better, AGAIN! -- "Anonymous" to trolling senile Rot Speed: "You can **** off as you know less than pig **** you sad little ignorant ****." MID: |
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Lonely Psychopathic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! LOL
On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 20:02:24 +1100, cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rot
Speed blabbered, again: Expense comes into it. But all washing benefits from a start incold water. Wrong, as always. Nope, but more auto-contradicting, as always, you senile idiotic auto-contradictor! -- Kerr-Mudd,John addressing senile Rot: "Auto-contradictor Rod is back! (in the KF)" MID: |
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