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Fridge light upgrade.
The SES 15W incandescent lamp went (possibly for the second time) in
our fridge and I wondered if they did an LED replacement. It seems they do and I picked one up from Homebase: https://www.homebase.co.uk/tcp-led-f...t-bulb_p479971 (It seems Cooker hood / Fridge lamps are the same thing). I'd say that as long as it doesn't suffer from being / run at that sort of temperature (fridge in this case) it doesn't seem to be expensive for much more light, less heat (good in a fridge) and a longer lifespan? It is quite a bit longer than the lamp it replaced but the fitting seemed to accommodate it easily. It wouldn't take a SES LED candle lamp. Assuming it lasts, I'd recommend it as a general upgrade option. Loads more light with much less heat and hopefully, longer lasting? OOI, do any fridges come with LED lights as std these days? Cheers, T i m |
Fridge light upgrade.
T i m wrote:
do any fridges come with LED lights as std these days? Yes, parents' Bosch fridge has LEDs, I think the beam is delivered through a light-pipe arrangement ... |
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On 08/03/2019 13:28, T i m wrote:
The SES 15W incandescent lamp went (possibly for the second time) in our fridge and I wondered if they did an LED replacement. It seems they do and I picked one up from Homebase: https://www.homebase.co.uk/tcp-led-f...t-bulb_p479971 (It seems Cooker hood / Fridge lamps are the same thing). I'd say that as long as it doesn't suffer from being / run at that sort of temperature (fridge in this case) it doesn't seem to be expensive for much more light, less heat (good in a fridge) and a longer lifespan? It is quite a bit longer than the lamp it replaced but the fitting seemed to accommodate it easily. It wouldn't take a SES LED candle lamp. Assuming it lasts, I'd recommend it as a general upgrade option. Loads more light with much less heat and hopefully, longer lasting? OOI, do any fridges come with LED lights as std these days? Cheers, T i m Yep replaced the incandescent with an led lamp in our old Hotpoint. Lasted at least 4 years and was still working when the FF failed for other reasons. That was a standard ses golfball though if that has any bearing. ISTR there was an opinion that it might be an issue with mechanical fridge thermostats? And yes our new Samsung comes with a 3*led chip lamp. The light output is utter crap though, you'd think they could engineer a better lamp - given they make enough lcd backlights :) |
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On Fri, 08 Mar 2019 13:28:46 +0000, T i m wrote:
The SES 15W incandescent lamp went (possibly for the second time) in our fridge and I wondered if they did an LED replacement. It seems they do and I picked one up from Homebase: https://www.homebase.co.uk/tcp-led-f...t-bulb_p479971 (It seems Cooker hood / Fridge lamps are the same thing). I'd say that as long as it doesn't suffer from being / run at that sort of temperature (fridge in this case) it doesn't seem to be expensive for much more light, less heat (good in a fridge) and a longer lifespan? It is quite a bit longer than the lamp it replaced but the fitting seemed to accommodate it easily. It wouldn't take a SES LED candle lamp. Assuming it lasts, I'd recommend it as a general upgrade option. Loads more light with much less heat and hopefully, longer lasting? OOI, do any fridges come with LED lights as std these days? Mine requires the light to be left on continuously if the ambient temperature falls below 5 degrees. There is a switch to do this. This is to introduce heat to activate the compressor. An LED light would be totally unsuitable as it would not provide enough heat. |
Fridge light upgrade.
On Fri, 8 Mar 2019 13:32:23 +0000, Andy Burns
wrote: T i m wrote: do any fridges come with LED lights as std these days? Yes, parents' Bosch fridge has LEDs, I think the beam is delivered through a light-pipe arrangement ... Cool. ;-) Cheers, T i m |
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On Fri, 8 Mar 2019 13:55:33 +0000, Lee
wrote: snip OOI, do any fridges come with LED lights as std these days? Yep replaced the incandescent with an led lamp in our old Hotpoint. Lasted at least 4 years and was still working when the FF failed for other reasons. That was a standard ses golfball though if that has any bearing. I think the design of the lamp I linked to possibly better suits 'sideways' light emissions? ISTR there was an opinion that it might be an issue with mechanical fridge thermostats? Ok? And yes our new Samsung comes with a 3*led chip lamp. The light output is utter crap though, you'd think they could engineer a better lamp - given they make enough lcd backlights :) You would eh. Sometimes they need to stick to what they know? Cheers, T i m |
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On Fri, 08 Mar 2019 14:06:37 +0000, Scott
wrote: snip OOI, do any fridges come with LED lights as std these days? Mine requires the light to be left on continuously if the ambient temperature falls below 5 degrees. There is a switch to do this. Oooerr. This is to introduce heat to activate the compressor. An LED light would be totally unsuitable as it would not provide enough heat. I wonder how many fridges have / do that? Cheers, T i m |
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On 3/8/2019 9:16 AM, T i m wrote:
On Fri, 8 Mar 2019 13:32:23 +0000, Andy Burns wrote: T i m wrote: do any fridges come with LED lights as std these days? Yes, parents' Bosch fridge has LEDs, I think the beam is delivered through a light-pipe arrangement ... Cool. ;-) I should hope so... |
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On Fri, 08 Mar 2019 14:32:44 +0000, T i m wrote:
On Fri, 08 Mar 2019 14:06:37 +0000, Scott wrote: snip OOI, do any fridges come with LED lights as std these days? Mine requires the light to be left on continuously if the ambient temperature falls below 5 degrees. There is a switch to do this. Oooerr. This is to introduce heat to activate the compressor. An LED light would be totally unsuitable as it would not provide enough heat. I wonder how many fridges have / do that? Not mine, but here is an example: https://home.liebherr.com/en/gbr/ser...-light-1-start 'The interior light of the refrigerator is lit (with half strength) even when the door is closed. Possible solution: Some pre LED models use the interior light bulb in low ambient temperatures where the freezing capacity can be insufficient in the freezer compartment. The interior light is controlled through the electronic control system or by activating the CoolPlus switch which runs the light at half strength. This ensures operation of the freezer compartment at the correct temperature.' If yours works in this way then maybe you cannot use an LED bulb. |
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Somebody told me theirs is a kind of strip of leds down one side, so I'd
assume its been done as it does not use as much or get as warm. Brian -- ----- -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "Andy Burns" wrote in message ... T i m wrote: do any fridges come with LED lights as std these days? Yes, parents' Bosch fridge has LEDs, I think the beam is delivered through a light-pipe arrangement ... |
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On Fri, 08 Mar 2019 14:06:37 +0000, Scott
wrote: snip OOI, do any fridges come with LED lights as std these days? Mine requires the light to be left on continuously if the ambient temperature falls below 5 degrees. There is a switch to do this. Oooerr. This is to introduce heat to activate the compressor. An LED light would be totally unsuitable as it would not provide enough heat. I wonder how many fridges have / do that? Cheers, T i m Confuses the **** out of Schrödinger's cat. -- Graham. %Profound_observation% |
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On Fri, 08 Mar 2019 15:18:26 GMT, Pamela
wrote: On 13:28 8 Mar 2019, T i m wrote: The SES 15W incandescent lamp went (possibly for the second time) in our fridge and I wondered if they did an LED replacement. It seems they do and I picked one up from Homebase: https://www.homebase.co.uk/tcp-led-f...w-cooker-hood- light-bulb_p479971 (It seems Cooker hood / Fridge lamps are the same thing). I'd say that as long as it doesn't suffer from being / run at that sort of temperature (fridge in this case) it doesn't seem to be expensive for much more light, less heat (good in a fridge) and a longer lifespan? It is quite a bit longer than the lamp it replaced but the fitting seemed to accommodate it easily. It wouldn't take a SES LED candle lamp. Assuming it lasts, I'd recommend it as a general upgrade option. Loads more light with much less heat and hopefully, longer lasting? OOI, do any fridges come with LED lights as std these days? Cheers, T i m My fridge-freezer was playing up badly (no cooling at medium settings). I finally replaced the blown bulb and all was well again. The replacement is a lovely bright LED which seems to have restored the thermostat circuit back to normal. That's odd because if I replaced the bulb with an LED the fridge would not work properly in the winter. I know because when I have forgotten to switch the interior light to continuous, stuff in the freezing compartment starts to defrost. |
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On Fri, 8 Mar 2019 10:04:58 -0500, S Viemeister
wrote: On 3/8/2019 9:16 AM, T i m wrote: On Fri, 8 Mar 2019 13:32:23 +0000, Andy Burns wrote: T i m wrote: do any fridges come with LED lights as std these days? Yes, parents' Bosch fridge has LEDs, I think the beam is delivered through a light-pipe arrangement ... Cool. ;-) I should hope so... Yes, that was the thought ... ;-) Cheers, T i m |
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On Fri, 08 Mar 2019 15:09:29 +0000, Scott
wrote: snip Some pre LED models use the interior light bulb in low ambient temperatures where the freezing capacity can be insufficient in the freezer compartment. So ... if you don't have a freezer compartment, you aren't likely to use the lamp as some form of heater? Cheers,T i m |
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On 08/03/2019 15:22, Graham. wrote:
On Fri, 08 Mar 2019 14:06:37 +0000, Scott wrote: snip OOI, do any fridges come with LED lights as std these days? Mine requires the light to be left on continuously if the ambient temperature falls below 5 degrees. There is a switch to do this. Oooerr. This is to introduce heat to activate the compressor. An LED light would be totally unsuitable as it would not provide enough heat. I wonder how many fridges have / do that? Cheers, T i m Confuses the **** out of Schrödinger's cat. :-) :-) |
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On Fri, 08 Mar 2019 16:03:40 +0000, T i m wrote:
On Fri, 08 Mar 2019 15:09:29 +0000, Scott wrote: snip Some pre LED models use the interior light bulb in low ambient temperatures where the freezing capacity can be insufficient in the freezer compartment. So ... if you don't have a freezer compartment, you aren't likely to use the lamp as some form of heater? No, I understood that the compressor stopped running below the minimum ambient temperature affecting the whole operation of the fridge, just that the freezer compartment was the most conspicuous example. |
Fridge light upgrade.
On Fri, 08 Mar 2019 16:08:38 +0000, Scott
wrote: On Fri, 08 Mar 2019 16:03:40 +0000, T i m wrote: On Fri, 08 Mar 2019 15:09:29 +0000, Scott wrote: snip Some pre LED models use the interior light bulb in low ambient temperatures where the freezing capacity can be insufficient in the freezer compartment. So ... if you don't have a freezer compartment, you aren't likely to use the lamp as some form of heater? No, I understood that the compressor stopped running below the minimum ambient temperature affecting the whole operation of the fridge, just that the freezer compartment was the most conspicuous example. PS see https://howtomendit.com/answers.php?id=99803 |
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On Fri, 08 Mar 2019 17:17:56 GMT, Pamela
wrote: On 15:40 8 Mar 2019, Scott wrote: On Fri, 08 Mar 2019 15:18:26 GMT, Pamela wrote: On 13:28 8 Mar 2019, T i m wrote: The SES 15W incandescent lamp went (possibly for the second time) in our fridge and I wondered if they did an LED replacement. It seems they do and I picked one up from Homebase: https://www.homebase.co.uk/tcp-led-f...w-cooker-hood- light-bulb_p479971 (It seems Cooker hood / Fridge lamps are the same thing). I'd say that as long as it doesn't suffer from being / run at that sort of temperature (fridge in this case) it doesn't seem to be expensive for much more light, less heat (good in a fridge) and a longer lifespan? It is quite a bit longer than the lamp it replaced but the fitting seemed to accommodate it easily. It wouldn't take a SES LED candle lamp. Assuming it lasts, I'd recommend it as a general upgrade option. Loads more light with much less heat and hopefully, longer lasting? OOI, do any fridges come with LED lights as std these days? Cheers, T i m My fridge-freezer was playing up badly (no cooling at medium settings). I finally replaced the blown bulb and all was well again. The replacement is a lovely bright LED which seems to have restored the thermostat circuit back to normal. That's odd because if I replaced the bulb with an LED the fridge would not work properly in the winter. I know because when I have forgotten to switch the interior light to continuous, stuff in the freezing compartment starts to defrost. I think I was probably lucky the impedance of the 3W LED replacement was enough to complete the circuit correctly. Originally there was a 15W pigmy bulb which was replaced with this: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00LXACAOU/ But if your fridge requires heat when operating at low ambient temperature, an LED won't provide it. See link elsewhere in thread. |
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On Fri, 08 Mar 2019 16:14:28 +0000, Scott
wrote: snip So ... if you don't have a freezer compartment, you aren't likely to use the lamp as some form of heater? No, I understood that the compressor stopped running below the minimum ambient temperature affecting the whole operation of the fridge, just that the freezer compartment was the most conspicuous example. PS see https://howtomendit.com/answers.php?id=99803 And does this still relate to just fridges, or fridge freezers (with a single thermostat / compressor)? Cheers, T i m |
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On Fri, 08 Mar 2019 21:38:56 +0000, T i m wrote:
On Fri, 08 Mar 2019 16:14:28 +0000, Scott wrote: snip So ... if you don't have a freezer compartment, you aren't likely to use the lamp as some form of heater? No, I understood that the compressor stopped running below the minimum ambient temperature affecting the whole operation of the fridge, just that the freezer compartment was the most conspicuous example. PS see https://howtomendit.com/answers.php?id=99803 And does this still relate to just fridges, or fridge freezers (with a single thermostat / compressor)? I honestly don't know. Mine is a fridge freezer but the light is in the fridge compartment. I assume the same principle applies to fridges and freezers as both are doing the same job. We need someone who knows about thermodynamics. Anyone out there? |
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On Sat, 9 Mar 2019 08:13:00 -0000, "Brian Gaff"
wrote: Sounds a bit odd if the lamp and the thermostat are linked. problem waiting to happen if they rely on a bulb as a ref or something. Brian Exactly. Mine is manually operated with a switch. If I forget to turn this on in cold conditions the food in the freezer goes soft. I promise you all it is true. |
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On Sat, 09 Mar 2019 08:27:41 +0000, Scott
wrote: On Fri, 08 Mar 2019 21:38:56 +0000, T i m wrote: On Fri, 08 Mar 2019 16:14:28 +0000, Scott wrote: snip So ... if you don't have a freezer compartment, you aren't likely to use the lamp as some form of heater? No, I understood that the compressor stopped running below the minimum ambient temperature affecting the whole operation of the fridge, just that the freezer compartment was the most conspicuous example. PS see https://howtomendit.com/answers.php?id=99803 And does this still relate to just fridges, or fridge freezers (with a single thermostat / compressor)? I honestly don't know. Mine is a fridge freezer but the light is in the fridge compartment. I assume the same principle applies to fridges and freezers as both are doing the same job. I think the issue is limited to fridge freezers or fridges with freezer boxes and that only have one compressor / thermostat controlling both. eg, If the fridge is in an environment where it's already below the normal working temperature (a cold garage in the winter), the stat (in the fridge) wouldn't call the compressor to run and so the freezer (/box) would therefore defrost as *it* needs to be at a much lower temperature (or summat). ;-) We need someone who knows about thermodynamics. Anyone out there? I think it's more to do with the fridge / freezer and compromise of design (when used in extreme conditions). Cheers, T i m |
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On Sat, 9 Mar 2019 08:13:00 -0000, "Brian Gaff"
wrote: Sounds a bit odd if the lamp and the thermostat are linked. problem waiting to happen if they rely on a bulb as a ref or something. I believe many vehicle charging systems relied on the presence of the ignition lamp to provide excitation to the dynamo (/alternator?). I know my BMW motorbikes do. Cheers, T i m |
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On Sat, 09 Mar 2019 10:37:40 +0000, T i m wrote:
On Sat, 09 Mar 2019 08:27:41 +0000, Scott wrote: On Fri, 08 Mar 2019 21:38:56 +0000, T i m wrote: On Fri, 08 Mar 2019 16:14:28 +0000, Scott wrote: snip So ... if you don't have a freezer compartment, you aren't likely to use the lamp as some form of heater? No, I understood that the compressor stopped running below the minimum ambient temperature affecting the whole operation of the fridge, just that the freezer compartment was the most conspicuous example. PS see https://howtomendit.com/answers.php?id=99803 And does this still relate to just fridges, or fridge freezers (with a single thermostat / compressor)? I honestly don't know. Mine is a fridge freezer but the light is in the fridge compartment. I assume the same principle applies to fridges and freezers as both are doing the same job. I think the issue is limited to fridge freezers or fridges with freezer boxes and that only have one compressor / thermostat controlling both. eg, If the fridge is in an environment where it's already below the normal working temperature (a cold garage in the winter), the stat (in the fridge) wouldn't call the compressor to run and so the freezer (/box) would therefore defrost as *it* needs to be at a much lower temperature (or summat). ;-) We need someone who knows about thermodynamics. Anyone out there? I think it's more to do with the fridge / freezer and compromise of design (when used in extreme conditions). Thanks. It sounds like you know more about it than I do. I am relying on user experience. |
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On Sat, 09 Mar 2019 13:05:43 +0000, Scott
wrote: snip We need someone who knows about thermodynamics. Anyone out there? I think it's more to do with the fridge / freezer and compromise of design (when used in extreme conditions). Thanks. It sounds like you know more about it than I do. Only what I read from your links. ;-) I am relying on user experience. And I can't as I've never had a fridge with such needs (or a fridge freezer for that matter, let alone one left out in the cold). ;-) Cheers, T i m |
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"Scott" wrote in message ... On Fri, 08 Mar 2019 15:18:26 GMT, Pamela wrote: On 13:28 8 Mar 2019, T i m wrote: The SES 15W incandescent lamp went (possibly for the second time) in our fridge and I wondered if they did an LED replacement. It seems they do and I picked one up from Homebase: https://www.homebase.co.uk/tcp-led-f...w-cooker-hood- light-bulb_p479971 (It seems Cooker hood / Fridge lamps are the same thing). I'd say that as long as it doesn't suffer from being / run at that sort of temperature (fridge in this case) it doesn't seem to be expensive for much more light, less heat (good in a fridge) and a longer lifespan? It is quite a bit longer than the lamp it replaced but the fitting seemed to accommodate it easily. It wouldn't take a SES LED candle lamp. Assuming it lasts, I'd recommend it as a general upgrade option. Loads more light with much less heat and hopefully, longer lasting? OOI, do any fridges come with LED lights as std these days? Cheers, T i m My fridge-freezer was playing up badly (no cooling at medium settings). I finally replaced the blown bulb and all was well again. The replacement is a lovely bright LED which seems to have restored the thermostat circuit back to normal. That's odd because if I replaced the bulb with an LED the fridge would not work properly in the winter. I know because when I have forgotten to switch the interior light to continuous, stuff in the freezing compartment starts to defrost. None of my standalone freezers have a light and work fine in the winter even when in unheated rooms. |
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On Sat, 09 Mar 2019 11:42:52 +0000, Pamela wrote:
On 08:13 9 Mar 2019, Brian Gaff wrote: Sounds a bit odd if the lamp and the thermostat are linked. problem waiting to happen if they rely on a bulb as a ref or something. Brian It is odd isn't it and that's why I never suspected the cause of the failing fridge freezer. It nearly got thrown out because setting the thermostat about half way would cause the condensor to stop after a day or so and the entire contents of the freezer would defrost. That's why I got some wireless fridge feezer thermometers to provide an alarm when this happened. I would then put the stat to max and let everything freeze down. The interior bulb was blown in a way that on ocassion it would light up and I wonder if that was a loose filament which intermittently improved the circuit function. Never mind, a new bulb cured everything and the fridge freezer now works perfectly as well as being well illuminated! I 'pushed the boat out' and spent about 4 quid on a pair of 1.8W ses pygmy lamps a few months ago to replace the 15W tungsten bulbs in our under counter fridge and the chest freezer[1]. It never occurred to me that they could be used to compensate for extremely cold ambient temperature operation. In both cases, there wasn't any sign of a 'Low Ambient' switch to keep them lit for such a purpose so isn't a potential problem that, in this case, won't arise since our kitchen never gets any colder than 15 deg C anyway. [1] I did it because I could and was curious as to whether it would offer any improvement in lighting and reliability rather than because of the minuscule savings to be made in electricity consumption. -- Johnny B Good |
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Brian Gaff wrote
Sounds a bit odd if the lamp and the thermostat are linked. problem waiting to happen if they rely on a bulb as a ref or something. Yeah, bet she is having a massive brain fart, again. "Pamela" wrote in message ... On 17:25 8 Mar 2019, Scott wrote: On Fri, 08 Mar 2019 17:17:56 GMT, Pamela wrote: On 15:40 8 Mar 2019, Scott wrote: On Fri, 08 Mar 2019 15:18:26 GMT, Pamela wrote: On 13:28 8 Mar 2019, T i m wrote: The SES 15W incandescent lamp went (possibly for the second time) in our fridge and I wondered if they did an LED replacement. It seems they do and I picked one up from Homebase: https://www.homebase.co.uk/tcp-led-f...w-cooker-hood- light-bulb_p479971 (It seems Cooker hood / Fridge lamps are the same thing). I'd say that as long as it doesn't suffer from being / run at that sort of temperature (fridge in this case) it doesn't seem to be expensive for much more light, less heat (good in a fridge) and a longer lifespan? It is quite a bit longer than the lamp it replaced but the fitting seemed to accommodate it easily. It wouldn't take a SES LED candle lamp. Assuming it lasts, I'd recommend it as a general upgrade option. Loads more light with much less heat and hopefully, longer lasting? OOI, do any fridges come with LED lights as std these days? Cheers, T i m My fridge-freezer was playing up badly (no cooling at medium settings). I finally replaced the blown bulb and all was well again. The replacement is a lovely bright LED which seems to have restored the thermostat circuit back to normal. That's odd because if I replaced the bulb with an LED the fridge would not work properly in the winter. I know because when I have forgotten to switch the interior light to continuous, stuff in the freezing compartment starts to defrost. I think I was probably lucky the impedance of the 3W LED replacement was enough to complete the circuit correctly. Originally there was a 15W pigmy bulb which was replaced with this: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00LXACAOU/ But if your fridge requires heat when operating at low ambient temperature, an LED won't provide it. See link elsewhere in thread. I saw that but my fridge-freezer doesn't need that sort of heat. |
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"Scott" wrote in message ... On Fri, 08 Mar 2019 21:38:56 +0000, T i m wrote: On Fri, 08 Mar 2019 16:14:28 +0000, Scott wrote: snip So ... if you don't have a freezer compartment, you aren't likely to use the lamp as some form of heater? No, I understood that the compressor stopped running below the minimum ambient temperature affecting the whole operation of the fridge, just that the freezer compartment was the most conspicuous example. PS see https://howtomendit.com/answers.php?id=99803 And does this still relate to just fridges, or fridge freezers (with a single thermostat / compressor)? I honestly don't know. Mine is a fridge freezer but the light is in the fridge compartment. I assume the same principle applies to fridges and freezers as both are doing the same job. We need someone who knows about thermodynamics. Anyone out there? Its got nothing to do with thermodynamics. Its just that with a very low room temp, there isnt enough heat leaking in past the insulation to see the compressor keep being needed. With the light on, the heat from that eventually sees the thermostat decide to turn the compressor on because the fridge internal temp has got above the room temp. With no separate thermostat for freezer section. |
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"T i m" wrote in message ... On Sat, 9 Mar 2019 08:13:00 -0000, "Brian Gaff" wrote: Sounds a bit odd if the lamp and the thermostat are linked. problem waiting to happen if they rely on a bulb as a ref or something. I believe many vehicle charging systems relied on the presence of the ignition lamp to provide excitation to the dynamo (/alternator?). I know my BMW motorbikes do. But fridge freezers don't have a dynamo or alternator, stupid. |
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Speed blabbered, again: I believe many vehicle charging systems relied on the presence of the ignition lamp to provide excitation to the dynamo (/alternator?). I know my BMW motorbikes do. But fridge freezers don't have a dynamo or alternator, stupid. He was talking about vehicles, you obnoxious senile pest! -- Kerr-Mudd,John addressing senile Rot: "Auto-contradictor Rod is back! (in the KF)" MID: |
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Speed blabbered, again: Sounds a bit odd if the lamp and the thermostat are linked. problem waiting to happen if they rely on a bulb as a ref or something. Yeah, bet she is having a massive brain fart, again. We KNOW that YOU are having one again, you senile old fart! -- Senile Rot about himself: "I was involved in the design of a computer OS" MID: |
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Speed blabbered, again: That's odd because if I replaced the bulb with an LED the fridge would not work properly in the winter. I know because when I have forgotten to switch the interior light to continuous, stuff in the freezing compartment starts to defrost. None of my standalone freezers have a light and work fine in the winter even when in unheated rooms. You are one ****ed up senile auto-contradictor indeed, senile Rot! tsk -- Bod addressing abnormal senile quarreller Rot: "Do you practice arguing with yourself in an empty room?" MID: |
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