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I found this sliding patio door lock fitted on the house I've just bought. https://rfvt.org.uk/tmp/apprentice.jpg -- Alan J. Wylie https://www.wylie.me.uk/ Dance like no-one's watching. / Encrypt like everyone is. Security is inversely proportional to convenience |
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On 06/03/2019 18:46, Alan J. Wylie wrote:
I found this sliding patio door lock fitted on the house I've just bought. https://rfvt.org.uk/tmp/apprentice.jpg Brilliant! If you own a striped jersey and a balaclava and fancy earning a bit of cash with a night-time job, perhaps you could ask the double-glazing company where else they've fitted these patio doors? Nick |
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Nick Odell writes:
On 06/03/2019 18:46, Alan J. Wylie wrote: I found this sliding patio door lock fitted on the house I've just bought. https://rfvt.org.uk/tmp/apprentice.jpg Brilliant! If you own a striped jersey and a balaclava and fancy earning a bit of cash with a night-time job, perhaps you could ask the double-glazing company where else they've fitted these patio doors? I think it was fitted some time after the original installation. There is a lock built into the handle. The house was previously occupied by an elderly gentlman, and judging by the pile of large print black on yellow bumph sent by the council that was left behind, e.g. on smoke alarms, I am inclined to assume that it was the result of some scheme to provide work experience by fitting locks. Many years ago, after my mother had her back door kicked in, a young lad was sent around to fit (badly) a couple of bolts. -- Alan J. Wylie https://www.wylie.me.uk/ Dance like no-one's watching. / Encrypt like everyone is. Security is inversely proportional to convenience |
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"Rob Morley" wrote in message news:20190306193921.159e1d00@Mars... On Wed, 06 Mar 2019 18:46:07 +0000 (Alan J. Wylie) wrote: I found this sliding patio door lock fitted on the house I've just bought. https://rfvt.org.uk/tmp/apprentice.jpg I wonder if it would otherwise be possible to lift the door out of its track (and off a normally positioned bolt). It certainly isnt with my patio doors. |
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"Rod Speed" Wrote in message:
"Rob Morley" wrote in message news:20190306193921.159e1d00@Mars... On Wed, 06 Mar 2019 18:46:07 +0000 (Alan J. Wylie) wrote: I found this sliding patio door lock fitted on the house I've just bought. https://rfvt.org.uk/tmp/apprentice.jpg I wonder if it would otherwise be possible to lift the door out of its track (and off a normally positioned bolt). It certainly isnt with my patio doors. Two bits of wiggly tin & a bungee cord? -- Jim K ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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"Chris Hogg" wrote in message ... On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 19:39:21 +0000, Rob Morley wrote: On Wed, 06 Mar 2019 18:46:07 +0000 (Alan J. Wylie) wrote: I found this sliding patio door lock fitted on the house I've just bought. https://rfvt.org.uk/tmp/apprentice.jpg I wonder if it would otherwise be possible to lift the door out of its track (and off a normally positioned bolt). My thought too. Useless as a conventional lock, but it might prevent a burglar levering the sliding door up off its track, a not uncommon method of forced entry with earlier patio doors, I believe. Doesn't work with mine which are from the very early 1970s. The standard lock has a great big 12mm roughly pin that is fixed into the fixed frame which goes into a hole in the moving part of the door and is gripped by the lock when its locked. That stops you lifting the door when its locked. I assume there's a conventional lock as well. |
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On Thu, 7 Mar 2019 08:57:01 +1100, Jac Brown, better known as cantankerous
trolling senile geezer Rot Speed, wrote: Doesn't work with mine which are from the very early 1970s. The standard lock has a great big 12mm roughly pin that is fixed into the fixed frame which goes into a hole in the moving part of the door and is gripped by the lock when its locked. That stops you lifting the door when its locked. Afraid that you are in Hogg's killfile, Rot, you nym-shifting psychopathic senile cretin? VBG -- Sqwertz to Rot Speed: "This is just a hunch, but I'm betting you're kinda an argumentative asshole. MID: |
Lonely Psychopathic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert!
On Thu, 7 Mar 2019 08:25:38 +1100, cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rot
Speed blabbered, again: It certainly isnt with my patio doors. Nobody asked you, you senile psychopathic swine! -- Norman Wells addressing senile Rot: "Ah, the voice of scum speaks." MID: |
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"Chris Hogg" wrote in message ... On Thu, 7 Mar 2019 08:57:01 +1100, "Jac Brown" wrote: "Chris Hogg" wrote in message . .. On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 19:39:21 +0000, Rob Morley wrote: On Wed, 06 Mar 2019 18:46:07 +0000 (Alan J. Wylie) wrote: I found this sliding patio door lock fitted on the house I've just bought. https://rfvt.org.uk/tmp/apprentice.jpg I wonder if it would otherwise be possible to lift the door out of its track (and off a normally positioned bolt). My thought too. Useless as a conventional lock, but it might prevent a burglar levering the sliding door up off its track, a not uncommon method of forced entry with earlier patio doors, I believe. Doesn't work with mine which are from the very early 1970s. The standard lock has a great big 12mm roughly pin that is fixed into the fixed frame which goes into a hole in the moving part of the door and is gripped by the lock when its locked. That stops you lifting the door when its locked. We're not talking about your door, Rod, but about the OP's door. But its likely that the OP's door lock works the same way. If someone thought it necessary to put such a lock on the OP's door,obviously they thought it could be levered out. Or they didn't have a clue about how the OP's door lock works. |
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Many years ago, we had Cold Shield ally double glazed windows fitted. Most
were well made with big rivets holding eye handles on, but the bathroom was what one might call the black pea in the pod. One day I closed it, this was about three months into the use, and as I rotated the handle the whole piece holding it to the window came off and you could see in this case the rivets were nowhere near long enough to give a fixing. Calling the company back they had a look at all the others, which was quite difficult to do with them fitted, but it turned out it was the only one like that. Of course they could not refit the old handle for reasons I never did understand, but when they fitted a new one the style is not quite the same as the others. So, double glazing weirdness is nothing new. This was around the start of the 1970s. I remember it well. The windows are still intact though one has a tiny crack in one corner and its seal has broken. I have had conflicting advice about replacement glass, some say the wider spaced units are made with redesigned clip in outward facing strips, others say its false economy , get new pvc ones due to the blocking of the cold in the frames now used. However I'm not going to rush changing them! Brian -- ----- -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "Nick Odell" wrote in message ... On 06/03/2019 18:46, Alan J. Wylie wrote: I found this sliding patio door lock fitted on the house I've just bought. https://rfvt.org.uk/tmp/apprentice.jpg Brilliant! If you own a striped jersey and a balaclava and fancy earning a bit of cash with a night-time job, perhaps you could ask the double-glazing company where else they've fitted these patio doors? Nick |
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On Thu, 07 Mar 2019 07:09:07 +0000, Chris Hogg wrote:
If someone thought it necessary to put such a lock on the OP's door, obviously they thought it could be levered out. This assumes "thought":-) (Maybe they just didn't "get it" and muddled through any old way -- happens when there is no time, no interest, no one to ask, ...) Thomas Prufer |
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On Thursday, 7 March 2019 08:27:12 UTC, Brian Gaff wrote:
Many years ago, we had Cold Shield ally double glazed windows fitted. "Cold Bridge" might be a better name. Owain |
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On 06/03/2019 19:39, Rob Morley wrote:
On Wed, 06 Mar 2019 18:46:07 +0000 (Alan J. Wylie) wrote: I found this sliding patio door lock fitted on the house I've just bought. https://rfvt.org.uk/tmp/apprentice.jpg I wonder if it would otherwise be possible to lift the door out of its track (and off a normally positioned bolt). The more usual approach is to fit blocks into the upper track, so that there is only room for it to be lifted out when fully open. -- -- Colin Bignell |
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"Nightjar" wrote in message ... On 06/03/2019 19:39, Rob Morley wrote: On Wed, 06 Mar 2019 18:46:07 +0000 (Alan J. Wylie) wrote: I found this sliding patio door lock fitted on the house I've just bought. https://rfvt.org.uk/tmp/apprentice.jpg I wonder if it would otherwise be possible to lift the door out of its track (and off a normally positioned bolt). The more usual approach is to fit blocks into the upper track, so that there is only room for it to be lifted out when fully open. Mine has the bottom wheels that you screw up with a screwdriver inserted into the bottom rail of the door and you can only do that with the door open, so burglars cant do that. |
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On Thu, 7 Mar 2019 21:04:05 +1100, cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rot
Speed blabbered, again: The more usual approach is to fit blocks into the upper track, so that there is only room for it to be lifted out when fully open. Mine has Nobody talked about your door, psychopath! -- Bill Wright to Rot Speed: "That confirms my opinion that you are a despicable little ****." MID: |
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On 07/03/2019 08:27, Brian Gaff wrote:
with redesigned clip in outward facing strips, others say its false economy , get new pvc ones due to the blocking of the cold in the frames now used. However I'm not going to rush changing them! Do you have a thermal break? A 4mm or so band around the edge of the window - you'll probably be able to feel this as a depression on opening windows. 4mm isn't the best thermal break, but when I did the calcs for mine, it's not that far off modern standards. -- Email does not work |
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Rob Morley writes:
On Wed, 06 Mar 2019 18:46:07 +0000 (Alan J. Wylie) wrote: I found this sliding patio door lock fitted on the house I've just bought. https://rfvt.org.uk/tmp/apprentice.jpg I wonder if it would otherwise be possible to lift the door out of its track (and off a normally positioned bolt). I had another look today, in between lifting p*ss soaked carpets and removing huge amounts of television cable.The lock mechanism consists of a substantial horizontal metal protuberance (I can't think of a better word, I'm afraid) extending from the frame, into which a bolt slides upwards to lock the door. There is no way that the pin in the photo would provide any extra protection against the door being lifted. -- Alan J. Wylie https://www.wylie.me.uk/ Dance like no-one's watching. / Encrypt like everyone is. Security is inversely proportional to convenience |
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On 07/03/2019 19:32, Alan J. Wylie wrote:
Rob Morley writes: On Wed, 06 Mar 2019 18:46:07 +0000 (Alan J. Wylie) wrote: I found this sliding patio door lock fitted on the house I've just bought. https://rfvt.org.uk/tmp/apprentice.jpg I wonder if it would otherwise be possible to lift the door out of its track (and off a normally positioned bolt). I had another look today, in between lifting p*ss soaked carpets and removing huge amounts of television cable.The lock mechanism consists of a substantial horizontal metal protuberance (I can't think of a better word, I'm afraid) extending from the frame, into which a bolt slides upwards to lock the door. There is no way that the pin in the photo would provide any extra protection against the door being lifted. It stops it being lifted after they have snapped the euro cylinder. They need a second lock on the bottom too to stop it sliding. Of course the bottom one will do both jobs. |
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"dennis@home" writes:
It stops it being lifted after they have snapped the euro cylinder. There is no euro cylinder. There isn't even a key. It can only be opened from the inside. -- Alan J. Wylie https://www.wylie.me.uk/ Dance like no-one's watching. / Encrypt like everyone is. Security is inversely proportional to convenience |
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