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Curtain wire problem - sounds easy but aint!
Old fashioned curtain wire - like a spring/tube with a plastic covering.Hook or eye screws into end of wire, eye or hook screws into wall.
Window has plasterboard either side. Someone's attached hook using a tiny wall plug, but it just pulls out because the hook's thread is too slim to make the plug expand and if you were to use a proper plasterboard plug it would be even worse as the hole in the plug is massive. And of course, the curtain wire exerts a constant slight tension on the fixing. In the end I've glued a plasterboard plug in with silicone and glued a hook into the plug too but I'm not optimistic. Any better ideas? Might need to use Araldite next! |
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Curtain wire problem - sounds easy but aint!
On 20/01/2019 17:31, Murmansk wrote:
Old fashioned curtain wire - like a spring/tube with a plastic covering.Hook or eye screws into end of wire, eye or hook screws into wall. Window has plasterboard either side. Someone's attached hook using a tiny wall plug, but it just pulls out because the hook's thread is too slim to make the plug expand and if you were to use a proper plasterboard plug it would be even worse as the hole in the plug is massive. And of course, the curtain wire exerts a constant slight tension on the fixing. In the end I've glued a plasterboard plug in with silicone and glued a hook into the plug too but I'm not optimistic. Any better ideas? Might need to use Araldite next! We use those telescopic spring loaded tension rods that exert a force into the the two sides. No fixings required and work every time. This sort of thing:- http://tinyurl.com/tensionrod |
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Curtain wire problem - sounds easy but aint!
On 20/01/2019 17:31, Murmansk wrote:
Old fashioned curtain wire - like a spring/tube with a plastic covering.Hook or eye screws into end of wire, eye or hook screws into wall. Window has plasterboard either side. Someone's attached hook using a tiny wall plug, but it just pulls out because the hook's thread is too slim to make the plug expand and if you were to use a proper plasterboard plug it would be even worse as the hole in the plug is massive. And of course, the curtain wire exerts a constant slight tension on the fixing. In the end I've glued a plasterboard plug in with silicone and glued a hook into the plug too but I'm not optimistic. Any better ideas? Might need to use Araldite next! What I've done is to modify a crosshead screw by drilling a small hole in the head end and screw that all the way in to a proper plasterboard plug. Then I araldited the hook into the hole. You can get screws with holes already in - mirror screws - which might be easier to modify, or maybe even won't need modifying. Cheers -- Clive |
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Curtain wire problem - sounds easy but aint!
On 20/01/2019 17:38, Andy Bennet wrote:
On 20/01/2019 17:31, Murmansk wrote: Old fashioned curtain wire - like a spring/tube with a plastic covering.Hook or eye screws into end of wire, eye or hook screws into wall. Window has plasterboard either side. Someone's attached hook using a tiny wall plug, but it just pulls out because the hook's thread is too slim to make the plug expand and if you were to use a proper plasterboard plug it would be even worse as the hole in the plug is massive. And of course, the curtain wire exerts a constant slight tension on the fixing. In the end I've glued a plasterboard plug in with silicone and glued a hook into the plug too but I'm not optimistic. Any better ideas? Might need to use Araldite next! We use those telescopic spring loaded tension rods that exert a force into the the two sides. No fixings required and work every time. This sort of thing:- http://tinyurl.com/tensionrod Interesting idea. I've had to fit net curtains to windows without curtain rods and no inclination to get a masonry drill to do it properly, but the window openings are rather too wide for this solution. What I did was fix them with white insulating tape to the plastic window frames, secured to the nets with staples. Crude, but effective. -- Max Demian |
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Curtain wire problem - sounds easy but aint!
Hmm a couple of good ideas to think about there thanks, I'll try and persuade her to go for the Wilko rod idea as that takes less input from me!
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Curtain wire problem - sounds easy but aint!
On 20/01/2019 17:31, Murmansk wrote:
Old fashioned curtain wire - like a spring/tube with a plastic covering.Hook or eye screws into end of wire, eye or hook screws into wall. Window has plasterboard either side. Someone's attached hook using a tiny wall plug, but it just pulls out because the hook's thread is too slim to make the plug expand and if you were to use a proper plasterboard plug it would be even worse as the hole in the plug is massive. And of course, the curtain wire exerts a constant slight tension on the fixing. In the end I've glued a plasterboard plug in with silicone and glued a hook into the plug too but I'm not optimistic. Any better ideas? Might need to use Araldite next! Plasterboard isn't going to take the tension readily. Not helping *your* problem but for people with plaster, brick, etc. there's a special sort of wallplug made for taking nail-in cable clips. It just has a small hole in otherwise solid plastic, and the standard hooks or eyes used with curtain wire work fine. Also useful to know about for cable clips, of course. |
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Curtain wire problem - sounds easy but aint!
On Sun, 20 Jan 2019 09:31:51 -0800 (PST)
Murmansk wrote: Old fashioned curtain wire - like a spring/tube with a plastic covering.Hook or eye screws into end of wire, eye or hook screws into wall. Window has plasterboard either side. Someone's attached hook using a tiny wall plug, but it just pulls out because the hook's thread is too slim to make the plug expand and if you were to use a proper plasterboard plug it would be even worse as the hole in the plug is massive. And of course, the curtain wire exerts a constant slight tension on the fixing. In the end I've glued a plasterboard plug in with silicone and glued a hook into the plug too but I'm not optimistic. Any better ideas? Might need to use Araldite next! Cut a hole in the plasterboard with a hole saw. Cut a round plug of timber with the hole saw. Glue the round bit of timber into the plasterboard with some sticks-like-**** gap-filling adhesive. Screw the hook into the timber. |
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Curtain wire problem - sounds easy but aint!
On 20/01/2019 17:31, Murmansk wrote:
Old fashioned curtain wire - like a spring/tube with a plastic covering.Hook or eye screws into end of wire, eye or hook screws into wall. Window has plasterboard either side. Someone's attached hook using a tiny wall plug, but it just pulls out because the hook's thread is too slim to make the plug expand and if you were to use a proper plasterboard plug it would be even worse as the hole in the plug is massive. And of course, the curtain wire exerts a constant slight tension on the fixing. In the end I've glued a plasterboard plug in with silicone and glued a hook into the plug too but I'm not optimistic. Any better ideas? Might need to use Araldite next! this is where i incete a blob of car body filler behind the plasterboard and screw into that... -- Karl Marx said religion is the opium of the people. But Marxism is the crack cocaine. |
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Curtain wire problem - sounds easy but aint!
On 20/01/2019 17:31, Murmansk wrote:
Old fashioned curtain wire - like a spring/tube with a plastic covering.Hook or eye screws into end of wire, eye or hook screws into wall. Window has plasterboard either side. Someone's attached hook using a tiny wall plug, but it just pulls out because the hook's thread is too slim to make the plug expand and if you were to use a proper plasterboard plug it would be even worse as the hole in the plug is massive. And of course, the curtain wire exerts a constant slight tension on the fixing. In the end I've glued a plasterboard plug in with silicone and glued a hook into the plug too but I'm not optimistic. Any better ideas? Might need to use Araldite next! We have a "net" curtain - we're not exactly keen on them, but they do give some privacy from passersby. Our curtain wire has a hook on each end and an eye screwed into the frame at each side, so the tension is pulling them sideways and not directly out. SteveW |
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Curtain wire problem - sounds easy but aint!
On 20/01/2019 18:12, Murmansk wrote:
Hmm a couple of good ideas to think about there thanks, I'll try and persuade her to go for the Wilko rod idea as that takes less input from me! Yep the Wilko one was just an example. Dunelm, Range, infact anywhere that sells nets will sell them in different styles/quality/length, including amazon. You rotate one end with respect to the other to fine tune the length and consequent outwards spring pressure. They have rubberized ends so dont slip down if you get the pressure right. |
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Curtain wire problem - sounds easy but aint!
On 21/01/2019 08:18, Andy Bennet wrote:
On 20/01/2019 18:12, Murmansk wrote: Hmm a couple of good ideas to think about there thanks, I'll try and persuade her to go for the Wilko rod idea as that takes less input from me! Yep the Wilko one was just an example. Dunelm, Range, infact anywhere that sells nets will sell them in different styles/quality/length, including amazon. You rotate one end with respect to the other to fine tune the length and consequent outwards spring pressure. They have rubberized ends so dont slip down if you get the pressure right. You could make a little dint in the plasterboard for each end. Then it deffo wouldn't slip. Bill |
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Curtain wire problem - sounds easy but aint!
On Sunday, January 20, 2019 at 5:38:51 PM UTC, Andy Bennet wrote:
On 20/01/2019 17:31, Murmansk wrote: Old fashioned curtain wire - like a spring/tube with a plastic covering..Hook or eye screws into end of wire, eye or hook screws into wall. Window has plasterboard either side. Someone's attached hook using a tiny wall plug, but it just pulls out because the hook's thread is too slim to make the plug expand and if you were to use a proper plasterboard plug it would be even worse as the hole in the plug is massive. And of course, the curtain wire exerts a constant slight tension on the fixing. In the end I've glued a plasterboard plug in with silicone and glued a hook into the plug too but I'm not optimistic. Any better ideas? Might need to use Araldite next! We use those telescopic spring loaded tension rods that exert a force into the the two sides. No fixings required and work every time. This sort of thing:- http://tinyurl.com/tensionrod We have those in a french door/window holding net curtains. I find them too prone to come undone |
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Curtain wire problem - sounds easy but aint!
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On 20/01/2019 17:31, Murmansk wrote: Old fashioned curtain wire - like a spring/tube with a plastic covering.Hook or eye screws into end of wire, eye or hook screws into wall. Window has plasterboard either side. Someone's attached hook using a tiny wall plug, but it just pulls out because the hook's thread is too slim to make the plug expand and if you were to use a proper plasterboard plug it would be even worse as the hole in the plug is massive. And of course, the curtain wire exerts a constant slight tension on the fixing. In the end I've glued a plasterboard plug in with silicone and glued a hook into the plug too but I'm not optimistic. Any better ideas? Might need to use Araldite next! Plasterboard isn't going to take the tension readily. Not helping *your* problem but for people with plaster, brick, etc. there's a special sort of wallplug made for taking nail-in cable clips. It just has a small hole in otherwise solid plastic, and the standard hooks or eyes used with curtain wire work fine. Also useful to know about for cable clips, of course. Another vote for these. I've found they work (with care, and in places they are not likely to be disturbed) for lime plaster just too soft to grip the nails direct. -- Roger Hayter |
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