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Just about DIY? My brother's asked me to check Which? for carpet
cleaners, and it's come up with a Bissell Clean View Deep Clean 18Z7E.
In fact, this was the only Best Buy by a long chalk. £350, which he can
afford he tells me.

Anybody and recommendations please? He's got a big house, white carpets
and a dog.

I hired a Rug Doctor a while back and it seemed fine, but I think he
wants to buy and have a machine to hand.


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On Tuesday, 1 January 2019 19:59:03 UTC, RJH wrote:
Just about DIY? My brother's asked me to check Which? for carpet
cleaners, and it's come up with a Bissell Clean View Deep Clean 18Z7E.
In fact, this was the only Best Buy by a long chalk. £350, which he can
afford he tells me.


I have a simpler, cheaper machine similar to
https://ao.com/product/54k27-bissell...-60363-91.aspx
which cost me about £60 in Tesco Direct Sale.

It is handy to have to clean up spills etc, but
- IHMO it doesn't get the carpet wet enough to actually wash it
- it doesn't get right into corners/edges
- doing a whole room in one go will take *ages*. It's much, much, slower than vacuuming
- construction is a bit plasticy especially on the clear parts (styrene?)

It is horrifying what muck comes out of a 'clean' carpet, though.

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On 01/01/2019 19:59, RJH wrote:
Just about DIY? My brother's asked me to check Which? for carpet
cleaners, and it's come up with a Bissell Clean View Deep Clean 18Z7E.
In fact, this was the only Best Buy by a long chalk. £350, which he can
afford he tells me.

Anybody and recommendations please? He's got a big house, white carpets
and a dog.

I hired a Rug Doctor a while back and it seemed fine, but I think he
wants to buy and have a machine to hand.


We recently bought BISSELL ProHeat 2X Revolution Carpet Cleaner with
HeatWave Technolgy 18583. Only used it once so far but delighted with
the performance. Significantly improved some stains that other cleaners
(including Rug Doctor) didn't touch. It also completely removed some
staining on a beige coloured sofa using the supplied tool. We got ours
from Amazon and it's now on sale there for less than we paid!
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Just about DIY? My brother's asked me to check Which? for carpet
cleaners, and it's come up with a Bissell Clean View Deep Clean 18Z7E.
In fact, this was the only Best Buy by a long chalk. £350, which he can
afford he tells me.

Anybody and recommendations please? He's got a big house, white carpets
and a dog.

I hired a Rug Doctor a while back and it seemed fine, but I think he
wants to buy and have a machine to hand.


Seems a lot of money for what it does. The key features are contrarotating brushes & pumped solution delivery. Machines without those are better avoided. Also years ago I heard of a lot of Bissell bladder machine failures & incompatibility with some solutions. Spot cleaning is no more useful than carrying a paint brush or spray or squirt bottle etc.

One plus that has is heating, I find heated solution works rather better. I just use warm water when filling. I'd look for other machines at lower price but with the important features.

Oh - one tip, forget buying the carpet cleaning solution, washing powder is much better. Bleach, ammonia & vinegar can be useful for carpets that haven't otherwise cleaned up - not mixed together obviously. And of course bleach is only for bleachable carpets, which most aren't.


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On Tuesday, 1 January 2019 19:59:03 UTC, RJH wrote:
Just about DIY? My brother's asked me to check Which? for carpet
cleaners, and it's come up with a Bissell Clean View Deep Clean 18Z7E.
In fact, this was the only Best Buy by a long chalk. £350, which he can
afford he tells me.

Anybody and recommendations please? He's got a big house, white carpets
and a dog.

I hired a Rug Doctor a while back and it seemed fine, but I think he
wants to buy and have a machine to hand.


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This stuff works well. No mess and only normal vacuum cleaner needed.
https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-G...E&gclsrc=aw.ds
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https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-G...E&gclsrc=aw.ds


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With a dog, the best plan is to recarpet the house in the colour of the dog.
Its not the problem of cleaning its getting the dog fur out of the pile. It
took me about a year.
As for what type, well I think they are all much the same, expensive for
what thy do.
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Just about DIY? My brother's asked me to check Which? for carpet cleaners,
and it's come up with a Bissell Clean View Deep Clean 18Z7E. In fact, this
was the only Best Buy by a long chalk. £350, which he can afford he tells
me.

Anybody and recommendations please? He's got a big house, white carpets
and a dog.

I hired a Rug Doctor a while back and it seemed fine, but I think he wants
to buy and have a machine to hand.


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Brian Gaff presented the following explanation :
As for what type, well I think they are all much the same, expensive for
what thy do.
Brian


What the dogs are expensive? :-)

We have two long haired dogs and a vac which is supposed to be designed
for pet hairs. There is always pet hair on the carpets and it certainly
works well to pick it up and pull it out of the pile. The vac container
fills quite rapidly on the first run around, but a little more can be
sucked up on a second run, if making a really good job of it.

Brian - you need to quote just a little of the post you are replying
to, because these threads often become disjointed, leaving your reply
in isolation and people wondering what your reply is in response to.


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On Wednesday, 2 January 2019 10:23:33 UTC, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Brian - you need to quote just a little of the post you are replying
to, because these threads often become disjointed, leaving your reply
in isolation and people wondering what your reply is in response to.


Brian quotes all the preceding post, but at the bottom (where it may be lost below the sig line in some newsreaders) because he top posts, which he is allowed to do as he's blind and his newsreader works for him that way.

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On 01/01/2019 19:59, RJH wrote:
Just about DIY? My brother's asked me to check Which? for carpet
cleaners, and it's come up with a Bissell Clean View Deep Clean 18Z7E.
In fact, this was the only Best Buy by a long chalk. £350, which he can
afford he tells me.

Anybody and recommendations please? He's got a big house, white carpets
and a dog.

I hired a Rug Doctor a while back and it seemed fine, but I think he
wants to buy and have a machine to hand.


I have one of these & in my considered opinion it's absolutely excellent.


https://www.argos.co.uk/product/8141521?cmpid=GS001&_$ja=tsid:59157|acid:480-316-7430|cid:199888113|agid:17436842553|tidla-407457469813|crid:74692318233|nw:g|rnd:68324372487 94516127|dvc:c|adp:1o1|mt:|loc:9045021&gclid=Cj0KC QiAvKzhBRC1ARIsANEXdgzGy0WYp3LzILAi2u5zpXeJBET-9YkDd3f7Ijf--9dKiTJy8S3l_mUaAgZeEALw_wcB

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On 01/01/2019 19:59, RJH wrote:
Just about DIY? My brother's asked me to check Which? for carpet
cleaners, and it's come up with a Bissell Clean View Deep Clean 18Z7E.
In fact, this was the only Best Buy by a long chalk. £350, which he can
afford he tells me.

Anybody and recommendations please? He's got a big house, white carpets
and a dog.

I hired a Rug Doctor a while back and it seemed fine, but I think he
wants to buy and have a machine to hand.


Our 14(!?) year old VAX Rapide still does an excellent job.

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With a dog, the best plan is to recarpet the house in the colour of the
dog.


Not possible with some breeds like alsatians etc. And they
have two level fur with the under layer a different color again
and they shed that in massive chunks come spring too.

Its not the problem of cleaning its getting the dog fur out of the pile.
It took me about a year.


I wasn’t silly enough to have carpet.

As for what type, well I think they are all much the same, expensive for
what thy do.


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Just about DIY? My brother's asked me to check Which? for carpet
cleaners, and it's come up with a Bissell Clean View Deep Clean 18Z7E. In
fact, this was the only Best Buy by a long chalk. £350, which he can
afford he tells me.

Anybody and recommendations please? He's got a big house, white carpets
and a dog.

I hired a Rug Doctor a while back and it seemed fine, but I think he
wants to buy and have a machine to hand.


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On 02/01/2019 15:09, TMH wrote:
On 01/01/2019 19:59, RJH wrote:
Just about DIY? My brother's asked me to check Which? for carpet
cleaners, and it's come up with a Bissell Clean View Deep Clean 18Z7E.
In fact, this was the only Best Buy by a long chalk. £350, which he
can afford he tells me.

Anybody and recommendations please? He's got a big house, white
carpets and a dog.

I hired a Rug Doctor a while back and it seemed fine, but I think he
wants to buy and have a machine to hand.


I have one of these & in my considered opinion it's absolutely excellent.


https://www.argos.co.uk/product/8141521?cmpid=GS001&_$ja=tsid:59157|acid:480-316-7430|cid:199888113|agid:17436842553|tidla-407457469813|crid:74692318233|nw:g|rnd:68324372487 94516127|dvc:c|adp:1o1|mt:|loc:9045021&gclid=Cj0KC QiAvKzhBRC1ARIsANEXdgzGy0WYp3LzILAi2u5zpXeJBET-9YkDd3f7Ijf--9dKiTJy8S3l_mUaAgZeEALw_wcB



Many thanks - I'll pass it on (email bounced btw)

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On 01/01/2019 19:59, RJH wrote:
Just about DIY? My brother's asked me to check Which? for carpet
cleaners, and it's come up with a Bissell Clean View Deep Clean 18Z7E.
In fact, this was the only Best Buy by a long chalk. £350, which he can
afford he tells me.

Anybody and recommendations please? He's got a big house, white carpets
and a dog.

I hired a Rug Doctor a while back and it seemed fine, but I think he
wants to buy and have a machine to hand.



Thanks everyone - I'll pass on the info. I don't think carpet (or dog)
swap is an option - as it happens it's a white husky type, so I think a
near match anyway. Knowing my brother, that's on purpose, and not for
carpet clean purposes ;-)

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On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 06:37:30 +1100, cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rot
Speed blabbered, again:

With a dog, the best plan is to recarpet the house in the colour of the
dog.


Not possible with some breeds like alsatians etc. And they
have two level fur with the under layer a different color again
and they shed that in massive chunks come spring too.


He didn't mention a unicoloured carpet. There are bicoloured carpets and,
check this, even multicoloured carpets, senile fool!

Its not the problem of cleaning its getting the dog fur out of the pile.
It took me about a year.


I wasn¢t silly enough to have carpet.


Carpets are VERY useful in colder climes, senile Ozzietard!

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On Wednesday, 2 January 2019 15:13:13 UTC, TMH wrote:
On 02/01/2019 01:54, tabbypurr wrote:
On Tuesday, 1 January 2019 19:59:03 UTC, RJH wrote:


I find heated solution works rather better. I just use warm water when filling. I'd look for other machines at lower price but with the important features.

Oh - one tip, forget buying the carpet cleaning solution, washing powder is much better. Bleach, ammonia & vinegar can be useful for carpets that haven't otherwise cleaned up - not mixed together obviously. And of course bleach is only for bleachable carpets, which most aren't.


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Washing powder is an absolute no no. It will leave a residue behind to
attract dirt & make the fibres sticky.

Buy a decent Prochem product
http://www.prochem-uk.com/product.php?xProd=30&xSec=10


Washing powder residue is dry powder. Carpet cleaning solutions OTOH use detergent that leaves a sticky residue. The line I heard in a presentation was that despite that it was a good tradeoff, no further details. Having cleaned carpets many times I've found washing powder much better.


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On 02/01/2019 22:50, wrote:
On Wednesday, 2 January 2019 15:13:13 UTC, TMH wrote:
On 02/01/2019 01:54, tabbypurr wrote:
On Tuesday, 1 January 2019 19:59:03 UTC, RJH wrote:


I find heated solution works rather better. I just use warm water when filling. I'd look for other machines at lower price but with the important features.

Oh - one tip, forget buying the carpet cleaning solution, washing powder is much better. Bleach, ammonia & vinegar can be useful for carpets that haven't otherwise cleaned up - not mixed together obviously. And of course bleach is only for bleachable carpets, which most aren't.


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Washing powder is an absolute no no. It will leave a residue behind to
attract dirt & make the fibres sticky.

Buy a decent Prochem product
http://www.prochem-uk.com/product.php?xProd=30&xSec=10

Washing powder residue is dry powder. Carpet cleaning solutions OTOH use detergent that leaves a sticky residue. The line I heard in a presentation was that despite that it was a good tradeoff, no further details. Having cleaned carpets many times I've found washing powder much better.


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Bear in mind that;

(a) I have an HNC in chemistry
(b) I was a moderator for the British Institute of Cleaning Science
(c) Spent 25 years in the cleaning industry
(d) Ran training courses in carpet cleaning
(e) Ran my own carpet cleaning company
(f) Wrote the DIY Wiki on carpet cleaning

I think you can probably take my word for it.......

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On Thursday, 3 January 2019 12:10:43 UTC, TMH wrote:
On 02/01/2019 22:50, tabbypurr wrote:
On Wednesday, 2 January 2019 15:13:13 UTC, TMH wrote:
On 02/01/2019 01:54, tabbypurr wrote:
On Tuesday, 1 January 2019 19:59:03 UTC, RJH wrote:


I find heated solution works rather better. I just use warm water when filling. I'd look for other machines at lower price but with the important features.

Oh - one tip, forget buying the carpet cleaning solution, washing powder is much better. Bleach, ammonia & vinegar can be useful for carpets that haven't otherwise cleaned up - not mixed together obviously. And of course bleach is only for bleachable carpets, which most aren't.


NT

Washing powder is an absolute no no. It will leave a residue behind to
attract dirt & make the fibres sticky.

Buy a decent Prochem product
http://www.prochem-uk.com/product.php?xProd=30&xSec=10


Washing powder residue is dry powder. Carpet cleaning solutions OTOH use detergent that leaves a sticky residue. The line I heard in a presentation was that despite that it was a good tradeoff, no further details. Having cleaned carpets many times I've found washing powder much better.


NT

Bear in mind that;

(a) I have an HNC in chemistry
(b) I was a moderator for the British Institute of Cleaning Science
(c) Spent 25 years in the cleaning industry
(d) Ran training courses in carpet cleaning
(e) Ran my own carpet cleaning company
(f) Wrote the DIY Wiki on carpet cleaning

I think you can probably take my word for it.......


That's hard to argue with I should try the carpet cleaning process on an item of clothing some time, see how it comes out.

I presume washing up liquid also leaves sticky residue. Are there any much cheaper than specialist carpet cleaning solutions that don't?


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On 03/01/2019 16:25, wrote:
On Thursday, 3 January 2019 12:10:43 UTC, TMH wrote:
On 02/01/2019 22:50, tabbypurr wrote:
On Wednesday, 2 January 2019 15:13:13 UTC, TMH wrote:
On 02/01/2019 01:54, tabbypurr wrote:
On Tuesday, 1 January 2019 19:59:03 UTC, RJH wrote:


I find heated solution works rather better. I just use warm water when filling. I'd look for other machines at lower price but with the important features.

Oh - one tip, forget buying the carpet cleaning solution, washing powder is much better. Bleach, ammonia & vinegar can be useful for carpets that haven't otherwise cleaned up - not mixed together obviously. And of course bleach is only for bleachable carpets, which most aren't.


NT

Washing powder is an absolute no no. It will leave a residue behind to
attract dirt & make the fibres sticky.

Buy a decent Prochem product
http://www.prochem-uk.com/product.php?xProd=30&xSec=10

Washing powder residue is dry powder. Carpet cleaning solutions OTOH use detergent that leaves a sticky residue. The line I heard in a presentation was that despite that it was a good tradeoff, no further details. Having cleaned carpets many times I've found washing powder much better.


NT

Bear in mind that;

(a) I have an HNC in chemistry
(b) I was a moderator for the British Institute of Cleaning Science
(c) Spent 25 years in the cleaning industry
(d) Ran training courses in carpet cleaning
(e) Ran my own carpet cleaning company
(f) Wrote the DIY Wiki on carpet cleaning

I think you can probably take my word for it.......


That's hard to argue with I should try the carpet cleaning process on an item of clothing some time, see how it comes out.


Horses for courses. Washing machines rinse clothing much more
effectively than carpet cleaning machines rinse carpets.

In the USA it's quite common to scrub carpets with a rotary floor
machine & detergent, then use a carpet machine with plain water. They
are often called "rinsers".

I presume washing up liquid also leaves sticky residue. Are there any much cheaper than specialist carpet cleaning solutions that don't?


Again horses for courses. If you look at the dilution rate of a decent
trade product compared to a DIY product, they aren't that expensive. The
Prochem product mentioned above dilutes 50-1 and costs about a tenner
for 5 litres.


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On Friday, 4 January 2019 12:00:10 UTC, TMH wrote:
On 03/01/2019 16:25, tabbypurr wrote:
On Thursday, 3 January 2019 12:10:43 UTC, TMH wrote:
On 02/01/2019 22:50, tabbypurr wrote:
On Wednesday, 2 January 2019 15:13:13 UTC, TMH wrote:
On 02/01/2019 01:54, tabbypurr wrote:
On Tuesday, 1 January 2019 19:59:03 UTC, RJH wrote:


I find heated solution works rather better. I just use warm water when filling. I'd look for other machines at lower price but with the important features.

Oh - one tip, forget buying the carpet cleaning solution, washing powder is much better. Bleach, ammonia & vinegar can be useful for carpets that haven't otherwise cleaned up - not mixed together obviously. And of course bleach is only for bleachable carpets, which most aren't.


NT

Washing powder is an absolute no no. It will leave a residue behind to
attract dirt & make the fibres sticky.

Buy a decent Prochem product
http://www.prochem-uk.com/product.php?xProd=30&xSec=10

Washing powder residue is dry powder. Carpet cleaning solutions OTOH use detergent that leaves a sticky residue. The line I heard in a presentation was that despite that it was a good tradeoff, no further details. Having cleaned carpets many times I've found washing powder much better.


NT

Bear in mind that;

(a) I have an HNC in chemistry
(b) I was a moderator for the British Institute of Cleaning Science
(c) Spent 25 years in the cleaning industry
(d) Ran training courses in carpet cleaning
(e) Ran my own carpet cleaning company
(f) Wrote the DIY Wiki on carpet cleaning

I think you can probably take my word for it.......


That's hard to argue with I should try the carpet cleaning process on an item of clothing some time, see how it comes out.


Horses for courses. Washing machines rinse clothing much more
effectively than carpet cleaning machines rinse carpets.

In the USA it's quite common to scrub carpets with a rotary floor
machine & detergent, then use a carpet machine with plain water. They
are often called "rinsers".

I presume washing up liquid also leaves sticky residue. Are there any much cheaper than specialist carpet cleaning solutions that don't?


Again horses for courses. If you look at the dilution rate of a decent
trade product compared to a DIY product, they aren't that expensive. The
Prochem product mentioned above dilutes 50-1 and costs about a tenner
for 5 litres.


That's not expensive. Doesn't look like the local outlets have it though. It may have to stay diy for now.


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Again horses for courses. If you look at the dilution rate of a decent
trade product compared to a DIY product, they aren't that expensive. The
Prochem product mentioned above dilutes 50-1 and costs about a tenner
for 5 litres.


That's not expensive. Doesn't look like the local outlets have it though. It may have to stay diy for now.


Also it has a no-go ingredient. Is this one similarly good?
http://www.prochem-uk.com/product.php?xProd=31&xSec=10


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On Saturday, 5 January 2019 16:30:58 UTC, TMH wrote:
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On Friday, 4 January 2019 16:37:41 UTC, tabby wrote:
On Friday, 4 January 2019 12:00:10 UTC, TMH wrote:


Again horses for courses. If you look at the dilution rate of a decent
trade product compared to a DIY product, they aren't that expensive. The
Prochem product mentioned above dilutes 50-1 and costs about a tenner
for 5 litres.

That's not expensive. Doesn't look like the local outlets have it though. It may have to stay diy for now.


Also it has a no-go ingredient. Is this one similarly good?
http://www.prochem-uk.com/product.php?xProd=31&xSec=10

Prolly better!

Check out local janitorial supplies companies, almost all of them stock
Prochem.

What's the no go ingredient then?


Cheers, will do. I might still try the carpet cleaning process on a piece of cloth to see just how sticky the result is.


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