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Honestly!
On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 16:46:02 +0100 (CET), Anonymous
wrote: On 26 Dec 2018 23:36:23 GMT, Marland wrote: Chris Hogg wrote: On Wed, 26 Dec 2018 21:42:15 +0000 (GMT+00:00), "Jim K.." wrote: Chris Hogg Wrote in message: On Wed, 26 Dec 2018 20:24:19 +0000 (GMT+00:00), "Jim K.." wrote: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabbath_mode Just a marketing ploy to gain an advantage over the competition for a short while and sell a few more machines until they catch up. And why not? Shurely if you are a member of a faith, then you probably believe a supreme being made the entirety of the cosmos. Worrying that you are going to get on the wrong side of such a being because you did "creative work" like turning on an oven, switching a TV on or working a lift is somewhat silly? So you're not complaining about the fact that 'Sabbath mode' machines exist, only that some people adopt a regime for their lives that allows mfrs of such machines to make products specifically for them. But people believe all sorts of things, that to other people might seem silly. It gives a structure to their lives that they need, while others can survive without such a structure, or adopt a different one. But it's what people do; it's just human nature. Get over it. That is the best attitude to take, though it does seem strange to have a set of rules that should be obeyed but are not compatible with the technology of the 21st century and then use that technology for a work around,it seems like cheating. Same with areas called eruvs within which certain rules are relaxed . A number of them have been created in the UK in recent times sometimes controversially even within the faith itself. Planning permission had to be obtained to erect boundary markers in the form of poles supporting almost invisible fishing line to keep the boundary intact where a building or other feature could not be used. One is here set back from the lamppost in one of the North London ones [cfh0-u6i907o0dgp;asdfvyo98905603u8924odf.hj,0i9bv7l9;w ji46,=9-8e9u,b 0jy[cfh0-u6i907o0dgp;asdfvyo98905603u8924odf.hj,0i9bv7l9;w ji46,=9-8e9u,b 0jy [cfh0-u6i907o0dgp;asdfvyo98905603u8924odf.hj,0i9bv7l9;w ji46,=9-8e9u,b 0jy[cfh0-u6i907o0dgp;asdfvyo98905603u8924odf.hj,0i9bv7l9;w ji46,=9-8e9u,b 0jy [cfh0-u6i907o0dgp;asdfvyo98905603u8924odf.hj,0i9bv7l9;w ji46,=9-8e9u,b 0jy[cfh0-u6i907o0dgp;asdfvyo98905603u8924odf.hj,0i9bv7l9;w ji46,=9-8e9u,b 0jy[cfh0-u6i907o0dgp;asdfvyo98905603u8924odf.hj,0i9bv7l9;w ji46,=9-8e9u,b 0jy[cfh0-u6i907o0dgp;asdfvyo98905603u8924odf.hj,0i9bv7l9;w ji46,=9-8e9u,b 0jy[cfh0-u6i907o0dgp;asdfvyo98905603u8924odf.hj,0i9bv7l9;w ji46,=9-8e9u,b 0jy[cfh0-u6i907o0dgp;asdfvyo98905603u8924odf.hj,0i9bv7l9;w ji46,=9-8e9u,b 0jy [cfh0-u6i907o0dgp;asdfvyo98905603u8924odf.hj,0i9bv7l9;w ji46,=9-8e9u,b 0jy[cfh0-u6i907o0dgp;asdfvyo98905603u8924odf.hj,0i9bv7l9;w ji46,=9-8e9u,b 0jy[cfh0-u6i907o0dgp;asdfvyo98905603u8924odf.hj,0i9bv7l9;w ji46,=9-8e9u,b 0jy[cfh0-u6i907o0dgp;asdfvyo98905603u8924odf.hj,0i9bv7l9;w ji46,=9-8e9u,b 0jy [cfh0-u6i907o0dgp;asdfvyo98905603u8924odf.hj,0i9bv7l9;w ji46,=9-8e9u,b 0jy[cfh0-u6i907o0dgp;asdfvyo98905603u8924odf.hj,0i9bv7l9;w ji46,=9-8e9u,b 0jy [cfh0-u6i907o0dgp;asdfvyo98905603u8924odf.hj,0i9bv7l9;w ji46,=9-8e9u,b 0jy[cfh0-u6i907o0dgp;asdfvyo98905603u8924odf.hj,0i9bv7l9;w ji46,=9-8e9u,b 0jy When is anything oigng to be done about the apartheid eruv? No more baby fiddling beth din, apply Western Christian law only. [cfh0-u6i907o0dgp;asdfvyo98905603u8924odf.hj,0i9bv7l9;w ji46,=9-8e9u,b 0jy[cfh0-u6i907o0dgp;asdfvyo98905603u8924odf.hj,0i9bv7l9;w ji46,=9-8e9u,b 0jy[cfh0-u6i907o0dgp;asdfvyo98905603u8924odf.hj,0i9bv7l9;w ji46,=9-8e9u,b 0jy[cfh0-u6i907o0dgp;asdfvyo98905603u8924odf.hj,0i9bv7l9;w ji46,=9-8e9u,b 0jy [cfh0-u6i907o0dgp;asdfvyo98905603u8924odf.hj,0i9bv7l9;w ji46,=9-8e9u,b 0jy[cfh0-u6i907o0dgp;asdfvyo98905603u8924odf.hj,0i9bv7l9;w ji46,=9-8e9u,b 0jy [cfh0-u6i907o0dgp;asdfvyo98905603u8924odf.hj,0i9bv7l9;w ji46,=9-8e9u,b 0jy[cfh0-u6i907o0dgp;asdfvyo98905603u8924odf.hj,0i9bv7l9;w ji46,=9-8e9u,b 0jy [cfh0-u6i907o0dgp;asdfvyo98905603u8924odf.hj,0i9bv7l9;w ji46,=9-8e9u,b 0jy[cfh0-u6i907o0dgp;asdfvyo98905603u8924odf.hj,0i9bv7l9;w ji46,=9-8e9u,b 0jy |
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On 2018-12-27 10:52 a.m., Nomen Nescio wrote:
On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 16:46:02 +0100 (CET), Anonymous wrote: On 26 Dec 2018 23:36:23 GMT, Marland wrote: Chris Hogg wrote: On Wed, 26 Dec 2018 21:42:15 +0000 (GMT+00:00), "Jim K.." wrote: Chris Hogg Wrote in message: On Wed, 26 Dec 2018 20:24:19 +0000 (GMT+00:00), "Jim K.." wrote: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabbath_mode Just a marketing ploy to gain an advantage over the competition for a short while and sell a few more machines until they catch up. And why not? Shurely if you are a member of a faith, then you probably believe a supreme being made the entirety of the cosmos. Worrying that you are going to get on the wrong side of such a being because you did "creative work" like turning on an oven, switching a TV on or working a lift is somewhat silly? So you're not complaining about the fact that 'Sabbath mode' machines exist, only that some people adopt a regime for their lives that allows mfrs of such machines to make products specifically for them. But people believe all sorts of things, that to other people might seem silly. It gives a structure to their lives that they need, while others can survive without such a structure, or adopt a different one. But it's what people do; it's just human nature. Get over it. That is the best attitude to take, though it does seem strange to have a set of rules that should be obeyed but are not compatible with the technology of the 21st century and then use that technology for a work around,it seems like cheating. Same with areas called eruvs within which certain rules are relaxed . A number of them have been created in the UK in recent times sometimes controversially even within the faith itself. Planning permission had to be obtained to erect boundary markers in the form of poles supporting almost invisible fishing line to keep the boundary intact where a building or other feature could not be used. One is here set back from the lamppost in one of the North London ones [cfh0-u6i907o0dgp;asdfvyo98905603u8924odf.hj,0i9bv7l9;w ji46,=9-8e9u,b 0jy[cfh0-u6i907o0dgp;asdfvyo98905603u8924odf.hj,0i9bv7l9;w ji46,=9-8e9u,b 0jy [cfh0-u6i907o0dgp;asdfvyo98905603u8924odf.hj,0i9bv7l9;w ji46,=9-8e9u,b 0jy[cfh0-u6i907o0dgp;asdfvyo98905603u8924odf.hj,0i9bv7l9;w ji46,=9-8e9u,b 0jy [cfh0-u6i907o0dgp;asdfvyo98905603u8924odf.hj,0i9bv7l9;w ji46,=9-8e9u,b 0jy[cfh0-u6i907o0dgp;asdfvyo98905603u8924odf.hj,0i9bv7l9;w ji46,=9-8e9u,b 0jy[cfh0-u6i907o0dgp;asdfvyo98905603u8924odf.hj,0i9bv7l9;w ji46,=9-8e9u,b 0jy[cfh0-u6i907o0dgp;asdfvyo98905603u8924odf.hj,0i9bv7l9;w ji46,=9-8e9u,b 0jy[cfh0-u6i907o0dgp;asdfvyo98905603u8924odf.hj,0i9bv7l9;w ji46,=9-8e9u,b 0jy[cfh0-u6i907o0dgp;asdfvyo98905603u8924odf.hj,0i9bv7l9;w ji46,=9-8e9u,b 0jy [cfh0-u6i907o0dgp;asdfvyo98905603u8924odf.hj,0i9bv7l9;w ji46,=9-8e9u,b 0jy[cfh0-u6i907o0dgp;asdfvyo98905603u8924odf.hj,0i9bv7l9;w ji46,=9-8e9u,b 0jy[cfh0-u6i907o0dgp;asdfvyo98905603u8924odf.hj,0i9bv7l9;w ji46,=9-8e9u,b 0jy[cfh0-u6i907o0dgp;asdfvyo98905603u8924odf.hj,0i9bv7l9;w ji46,=9-8e9u,b 0jy [cfh0-u6i907o0dgp;asdfvyo98905603u8924odf.hj,0i9bv7l9;w ji46,=9-8e9u,b 0jy[cfh0-u6i907o0dgp;asdfvyo98905603u8924odf.hj,0i9bv7l9;w ji46,=9-8e9u,b 0jy [cfh0-u6i907o0dgp;asdfvyo98905603u8924odf.hj,0i9bv7l9;w ji46,=9-8e9u,b 0jy[cfh0-u6i907o0dgp;asdfvyo98905603u8924odf.hj,0i9bv7l9;w ji46,=9-8e9u,b 0jy When is anything oigng to be done about the apartheid eruv? No more baby fiddling beth din, apply Western Christian law only. [cfh0-u6i907o0dgp;asdfvyo98905603u8924odf.hj,0i9bv7l9;w ji46,=9-8e9u,b 0jy[cfh0-u6i907o0dgp;asdfvyo98905603u8924odf.hj,0i9bv7l9;w ji46,=9-8e9u,b 0jy[cfh0-u6i907o0dgp;asdfvyo98905603u8924odf.hj,0i9bv7l9;w ji46,=9-8e9u,b 0jy[cfh0-u6i907o0dgp;asdfvyo98905603u8924odf.hj,0i9bv7l9;w ji46,=9-8e9u,b 0jy [cfh0-u6i907o0dgp;asdfvyo98905603u8924odf.hj,0i9bv7l9;w ji46,=9-8e9u,b 0jy[cfh0-u6i907o0dgp;asdfvyo98905603u8924odf.hj,0i9bv7l9;w ji46,=9-8e9u,b 0jy [cfh0-u6i907o0dgp;asdfvyo98905603u8924odf.hj,0i9bv7l9;w ji46,=9-8e9u,b 0jy[cfh0-u6i907o0dgp;asdfvyo98905603u8924odf.hj,0i9bv7l9;w ji46,=9-8e9u,b 0jy [cfh0-u6i907o0dgp;asdfvyo98905603u8924odf.hj,0i9bv7l9;w ji46,=9-8e9u,b 0jy[cfh0-u6i907o0dgp;asdfvyo98905603u8924odf.hj,0i9bv7l9;w ji46,=9-8e9u,b 0jy hi |
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