Jim K.. wrote

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabbath_mode

Whats even sillier is that when one of them is blown
to bits by a suicide bomber, all the pieces have to be
collected, even bits as small as a pin head, not just
flushed down the street drains etc.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabbath_mode

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Chris Hogg Wrote in message:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2018 20:24:19 +0000 (GMT+00:00), "Jim K.."
wrote:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabbath_mode

Just a marketing ploy to gain an advantage over the competition for a
short while and sell a few more machines until they catch up.

And why not?


Shurely if you are a member of a faith, then you probably believe
a supreme being made the entirety of the cosmos. Worrying that
you are going to get on the wrong side of such a being because
you did "creative work" like turning on an oven, switching a TV
on or working a lift is somewhat silly?

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On Wed, 26 Dec 2018 20:24:19 +0000, Jim K.. wrote:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabbath_mode

Yes, it was on the Bosch oven we bought two or three years ago.

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On 26/12/2018 21:42, Jim K.. wrote:

Shurely if you are a member of a faith, then you probably believe
a supreme being made the entirety of the cosmos. Worrying that
you are going to get on the wrong side of such a being because
you did "creative work" like turning on an oven, switching a TV
on or working a lift is somewhat silly?


Many people support football teams, for no logical reason, AFAICS.
Indeed, my son travelled a long way today to watch a desultory match
between Arsenal and Brighton in the freezing cold. Is that more or less
silly than what you describe above?

"Jim K.." wrote in message
...
Chris Hogg Wrote in message:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2018 20:24:19 +0000 (GMT+00:00), "Jim K.."
wrote:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabbath_mode

Just a marketing ploy to gain an advantage over the competition for a
short while and sell a few more machines until they catch up.

And why not?


Shurely if you are a member of a faith, then you probably
believe a supreme being made the entirety of the cosmos.

Plenty of them don't, most obviously with the non monotheistic
ones and some don't even have a supreme being either.

Worrying that you are going to get on the wrong side of such
a being because you did "creative work" like turning on an
oven, switching a TV on or working a lift is somewhat silly?

The whole idea of some supreme being is completely silly.

Chris Hogg Wrote in message:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2018 21:42:15 +0000 (GMT+00:00), "Jim K.."
wrote:

Chris Hogg Wrote in message:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2018 20:24:19 +0000 (GMT+00:00), "Jim K.."
wrote:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabbath_mode

Just a marketing ploy to gain an advantage over the competition for a
short while and sell a few more machines until they catch up.

And why not?


Shurely if you are a member of a faith, then you probably believe
a supreme being made the entirety of the cosmos. Worrying that
you are going to get on the wrong side of such a being because
you did "creative work" like turning on an oven, switching a TV
on or working a lift is somewhat silly?

So you're not complaining about the fact that 'Sabbath mode' machines
exist, only that some people adopt a regime for their lives that
allows mfrs of such machines to make products specifically for them.


A. What complaint?
B. These aren't specifically made "for them". (We all get to
pay for such "features" if we buy an appliance with such
settings...)

But people believe all sorts of things, that to other people might
seem silly. It gives a structure to their lives that they need, while
others can survive without such a structure, or adopt a different one.
But it's what people do; it's just human nature. Get over it.

Or?

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On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 09:53:43 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rot Speed,
the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


Worrying that you are going to get on the wrong side of such
a being because you did "creative work" like turning on an
oven, switching a TV on or working a lift is somewhat silly?

The whole idea of some supreme being is completely silly.

YOU will soon be in for a big surprise, you 85-year-old, obnoxious, senile
pest!

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"Ah, the voice of scum speaks."
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Chris Hogg wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2018 21:42:15 +0000 (GMT+00:00), "Jim K.."
wrote:

Chris Hogg Wrote in message:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2018 20:24:19 +0000 (GMT+00:00), "Jim K.."
wrote:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabbath_mode

Just a marketing ploy to gain an advantage over the competition for a
short while and sell a few more machines until they catch up.

And why not?


Shurely if you are a member of a faith, then you probably believe
a supreme being made the entirety of the cosmos. Worrying that
you are going to get on the wrong side of such a being because
you did "creative work" like turning on an oven, switching a TV
on or working a lift is somewhat silly?

So you're not complaining about the fact that 'Sabbath mode' machines
exist, only that some people adopt a regime for their lives that
allows mfrs of such machines to make products specifically for them.

But people believe all sorts of things, that to other people might
seem silly. It gives a structure to their lives that they need, while
others can survive without such a structure, or adopt a different one.
But it's what people do; it's just human nature. Get over it.


That is the best attitude to take, though it does seem strange to have a
set of rules that should be obeyed but are not compatible with the
technology of the 21st century and then use that technology for a work
around,it seems like cheating.
Same with areas called eruvs within which certain rules are relaxed . A
number of them have been created in the UK in recent times sometimes
controversially even within the faith itself. Planning permission had to be
obtained to erect boundary markers in the form of poles supporting almost
invisible fishing line to keep the boundary intact where a building or
other feature could not be used.

One is here set back from the lamppost in one of the North London ones.
https://goo.gl/maps/WvtRaB7NMb42

One concern is that granting the proponents of that religion permission to
establish such an area even though they do not intend for it to apply to
those who dont follow that particular belief and is not generally in
conflict
morally with the values of others in the UK could set a precedent for those
of other religions who may want to set up an area where their rules may be
looked upon as having some backing, and we already know that in the case of
many Muslims they dont want to just mingle and coexist but would want
their rules to have precedence over all believers or not.


GH

Marland wrote:
Chris Hogg wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2018 21:42:15 +0000 (GMT+00:00), "Jim K.."
wrote:

Chris Hogg Wrote in message:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2018 20:24:19 +0000 (GMT+00:00), "Jim K.."
wrote:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabbath_mode

Just a marketing ploy to gain an advantage over the competition for a
short while and sell a few more machines until they catch up.

And why not?


Shurely if you are a member of a faith, then you probably believe
a supreme being made the entirety of the cosmos. Worrying that
you are going to get on the wrong side of such a being because
you did "creative work" like turning on an oven, switching a TV
on or working a lift is somewhat silly?

So you're not complaining about the fact that 'Sabbath mode' machines
exist, only that some people adopt a regime for their lives that
allows mfrs of such machines to make products specifically for them.

But people believe all sorts of things, that to other people might
seem silly. It gives a structure to their lives that they need, while
others can survive without such a structure, or adopt a different one.
But it's what people do; it's just human nature. Get over it.


That is the best attitude to take, though it does seem strange to have a
set of rules that should be obeyed but are not compatible with the
technology of the 21st century and then use that technology for a work
around,it seems like cheating.
Same with areas called eruvs within which certain rules are relaxed . A
number of them have been created in the UK in recent times sometimes
controversially even within the faith itself. Planning permission had to be
obtained to erect boundary markers in the form of poles supporting almost
invisible fishing line to keep the boundary intact where a building or
other feature could not be used.

One is here set back from the lamppost in one of the North London ones.
https://goo.gl/maps/WvtRaB7NMb42

One concern is that granting the proponents of that religion permission to
establish such an area even though they do not intend for it to apply to
those who dont follow that particular belief and is not generally in
conflict
morally with the values of others in the UK could set a precedent for those
of other religions who may want to set up an area where their rules may be
looked upon as having some backing, and we already know that in the case of
many Muslims they dont want to just mingle and coexist but would want
their rules to have precedence over all believers or not.


GH


Put St ives eruv into google

On Wed, 26 Dec 2018 20:24:19 +0000 (GMT+00:00), Jim K.. wrote:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabbath_mode

My favourite Sabbath Mode is pork with crackling for lunch.

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"Chris Hogg" wrote in message
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On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 12:56:03 +1100, FMurtz
wrote:


Put St ives eruv into google

chuckle I live just outside one of the several St Ives's in the UK.
No eruv's here.

But OOI is there any limit to the size of an eruv?

Nope.

If not, why not put
one around the whole of Sidney.

Its Sydney and the non jew system doesn't allow that.

I imagine there are enough wires
criss-crossing the city to claim they're continuous.

Eruvs don't work like that.

Or even around
the whole of Oz (thinking of subsea cables for example),

Eruvs don't work like that.

or in that
case, even the whole world! It would make being an orthodox Jew so
much simpler!

Eruvs don't work like that.

But perhaps 'simpler' is not the point!

Of course it isn't.

well they are Gods chosen race .....

Habit can be a powerful thing, I think, its why marketing folk want to get
you into the habit of using their services watching this or that team
consuming this or that substance etc etc.
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On 26/12/2018 21:42, Jim K.. wrote:

Shurely if you are a member of a faith, then you probably believe
a supreme being made the entirety of the cosmos. Worrying that
you are going to get on the wrong side of such a being because
you did "creative work" like turning on an oven, switching a TV
on or working a lift is somewhat silly?


Many people support football teams, for no logical reason, AFAICS. Indeed,
my son travelled a long way today to watch a desultory match between
Arsenal and Brighton in the freezing cold. Is that more or less silly than
what you describe above?

"Binkie Huckaback ..." wrote in message
...
well they are Gods chosen race .....

That utter obscenity of a 'god' just yawned when
6M of its 'chosen people were gassed and cremated.

"PeterC" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 26 Dec 2018 20:24:19 +0000 (GMT+00:00), Jim K.. wrote:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabbath_mode

My favourite Sabbath Mode is pork with crackling for lunch.

I'm halal intolerant ....

"Rod Speed" wrote in message
...


"Binkie Huckaback ..." wrote in message
...
well they are Gods chosen race .....

That utter obscenity of a 'god' just yawned when
6M of its 'chosen people were gassed and cremated.

Oh ....but the ovens had Sabbath mode so it was fine ......

Chris Hogg Wrote in message:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2018 22:57:49 +0000 (GMT+00:00), "Jim K.."
wrote:

Chris Hogg Wrote in message:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2018 21:42:15 +0000 (GMT+00:00), "Jim K.."
wrote:

Chris Hogg Wrote in message:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2018 20:24:19 +0000 (GMT+00:00), "Jim K.."
wrote:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabbath_mode

Just a marketing ploy to gain an advantage over the competition for a
short while and sell a few more machines until they catch up.

And why not?


Shurely if you are a member of a faith, then you probably believe
a supreme being made the entirety of the cosmos. Worrying that
you are going to get on the wrong side of such a being because
you did "creative work" like turning on an oven, switching a TV
on or working a lift is somewhat silly?

So you're not complaining about the fact that 'Sabbath mode' machines
exist, only that some people adopt a regime for their lives that
allows mfrs of such machines to make products specifically for them.


A. What complaint?

The implied one that prompted you to start this thread.

In your opinion.

B. These aren't specifically made "for them". (We all get to
pay for such "features" if we buy an appliance with such
settings...)

But they were specifically made "for them" in the beginning,

How far back you going?

and the
extra cost now of putting Sabbath mode ability into every device must
be trivial, just a little more programming in the software.

But people believe all sorts of things, that to other people might
seem silly. It gives a structure to their lives that they need, while
others can survive without such a structure, or adopt a different one.
But it's what people do; it's just human nature. Get over it.

Or?

Or you'll spend your life moaning about trivia that really make no
impact on your life. But suit yourself...


Yep I'll suit myself, but thanks sooo much for "chipping in" :-)
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On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 20:25:57 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rot Speed,
the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

well they are Gods chosen race .....

That utter obscenity of a 'god' just yawned when
6M of its 'chosen people were gassed and cremated.

But you are lucky that God is like that, senile Rot. He obviously also yawns
at your senile trolling and being an obnoxious pontificating senile pest!

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"This is like having a conversation with someone with brain damage."
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Marland Wrote in message:
Chris Hogg wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2018 21:42:15 +0000 (GMT+00:00), "Jim K.."
wrote:

Chris Hogg Wrote in message:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2018 20:24:19 +0000 (GMT+00:00), "Jim K.."
wrote:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabbath_mode

Just a marketing ploy to gain an advantage over the competition for a
short while and sell a few more machines until they catch up.

And why not?


Shurely if you are a member of a faith, then you probably believe
a supreme being made the entirety of the cosmos. Worrying that
you are going to get on the wrong side of such a being because
you did "creative work" like turning on an oven, switching a TV
on or working a lift is somewhat silly?

So you're not complaining about the fact that 'Sabbath mode' machines
exist, only that some people adopt a regime for their lives that
allows mfrs of such machines to make products specifically for them.

But people believe all sorts of things, that to other people might
seem silly. It gives a structure to their lives that they need, while
others can survive without such a structure, or adopt a different one.
But it's what people do; it's just human nature. Get over it.


That is the best attitude to take, though it does seem strange to have a
set of rules that should be obeyed but are not compatible with the
technology of the 21st century and then use that technology for a work
around,it seems like cheating.
Same with areas called eruvs within which certain rules are relaxed . A
number of them have been created in the UK in recent times sometimes
controversially even within the faith itself. Planning permission had to be
obtained to erect boundary markers in the form of poles supporting almost
invisible fishing line to keep the boundary intact where a building or
other feature could not be used.

One is here set back from the lamppost in one of the North London ones.
https://goo.gl/maps/WvtRaB7NMb42

One concern is that granting the proponents of that religion permission to
establish such an area even though they do not intend for it to apply to
those who don?t follow that particular belief and is not generally in
conflict
morally with the values of others in the UK could set a precedent for those
of other religions who may want to set up an area where their rules may be
looked upon as having some backing, and we already know that in the case of
many Muslims they don?t want to just mingle and coexist but would want
their rules to have precedence over all believers or not.


GH

I'm certain Chris will be along to "set you straight" imminently ;-)

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