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How does a thermocouple have enough power to operate a gas valve?
On Sun, 09 Dec 2018 17:00:04 -0000, wrote:
On Sunday, 9 December 2018 16:40:47 UTC, Bruce Farquhar wrote: On Sat, 08 Dec 2018 20:33:27 -0000, Rod Speed wrote: "Bruce Farquhar" wrote in message news On Sat, 08 Dec 2018 18:32:08 -0000, Max Demian wrote: On 08/12/2018 16:41, Bruce Farquhar wrote: On older boilers (furnaces if you're American), when the heating isn't actually running (eg. the thermostat says the house is warm enough), there's no power to the boiler, so how does the pilot light valve stay open with the tiny voltage (40mV?) and current from the thermocouple? Well they used to have a bimetallic strip to hold the pilot light valve open rather than a thermocouple. Or maybe that's when boilers didn't have an electrical connection at all. The electricity from the mains supply (on an old basic/system boiler/furnace) is nothing to do with the pilot light, it just operates the main gas valve. The mains connection to my boiler is only on when the room stat calls for heat. When the room is warm enough, no electricity is given to the boiler at all. What do you mean "when boilers didn't have an electrical connection at all"? Surely they need something to tell them to start burning gas? Doesn't have to be an electrical thermostat, can be a bimetallic thermostat or a bulb and capillary tube. For the internal stat for its own tank, yes. But the room stat needs to tell the boiler remotely, which is always electricity surely. pre-electric boilers used non-electrical room stats. How far do you have to go back to find a boiler which is gas only? |
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How does a thermocouple have enough power to operate a gas valve?
"Fred Johnson" wrote in message news On Sun, 09 Dec 2018 17:00:04 -0000, wrote: On Sunday, 9 December 2018 16:40:47 UTC, Bruce Farquhar wrote: On Sat, 08 Dec 2018 20:33:27 -0000, Rod Speed wrote: "Bruce Farquhar" wrote in message news On Sat, 08 Dec 2018 18:32:08 -0000, Max Demian wrote: On 08/12/2018 16:41, Bruce Farquhar wrote: On older boilers (furnaces if you're American), when the heating isn't actually running (eg. the thermostat says the house is warm enough), there's no power to the boiler, so how does the pilot light valve stay open with the tiny voltage (40mV?) and current from the thermocouple? Well they used to have a bimetallic strip to hold the pilot light valve open rather than a thermocouple. Or maybe that's when boilers didn't have an electrical connection at all. The electricity from the mains supply (on an old basic/system boiler/furnace) is nothing to do with the pilot light, it just operates the main gas valve. The mains connection to my boiler is only on when the room stat calls for heat. When the room is warm enough, no electricity is given to the boiler at all. What do you mean "when boilers didn't have an electrical connection at all"? Surely they need something to tell them to start burning gas? Doesn't have to be an electrical thermostat, can be a bimetallic thermostat or a bulb and capillary tube. For the internal stat for its own tank, yes. But the room stat needs to tell the boiler remotely, which is always electricity surely. pre-electric boilers used non-electrical room stats. How far do you have to go back to find a boiler which is gas only? Back to when gas lights were common. |
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Lonely Psychotic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! LOL
On Fri, 14 Dec 2018 10:10:25 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rot Speed,
the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: FLUSH the two prize idiots' sick **** F'up to alt.idiots -- Richard addressing Rot Speed: "**** you're thick/pathetic excuse for a troll." MID: |
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