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I've 80mb fibre at my workplace, and I get almost full speed.
But it gets slower and slower over the course of several days to the point of unusability, then I reboot the router and it's flying again. What would cause this? Stuff beyond my control, or is it possible it's my gear? It's not a fancy setup, Technicolor router with a couple of PCs plugged in and a downwind switch with a PC and a printer plugged into that. Laptop and mobile connecting wirelessly. What could cause a network to clag up? |
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I've 80mb fibre at my workplace, and I get almost full speed. But it gets slower and slower over the course of several days to the point of unusability, then I reboot the router and it's flying again. What would cause this? Stuff beyond my control, or is it possible it's my gear? Can you get any stats out of the router? It could be it's running out of memory doing routing, and then dropping stuff because it's under too much load. ISP routers tend to have pathetic CPUs that can't cope up with lots of packets flying around. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016...ur-own-router/ Theo |
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What could cause a network to clag up? Poor software in the router, it could have memory leaks, or build up a stale cache of DNS results, NAT pairings etc Before the router I use now (which is somewhat an enthusiasts choice) I had a Billion and it was good, maybe this newer model would suit? https://amazon.co.uk/Billion-AC1600/dp/B07483S6BS The 8800NLR2 on that page is cheaper, but lacks dual band wifi. |
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I've 80mb fibre at my workplace, and I get almost full speed. But it gets slower and slower over the course of several days to the point of unusability, then I reboot the router and it's flying again. What would cause this? Stuff beyond my control, or is it possible it's my gear? Has to be your gear given that a router reboot fixes it. It's not a fancy setup, Technicolor router Dont see that here with the Technicolor TG789vac v2 HP with a couple of PCs plugged in and a downwind switch with a PC and a printer plugged into that. Laptop and mobile connecting wirelessly. What could cause a network to clag up? Gotta be the router. |
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On 03/12/2018 15:47, R D S wrote:
I've 80mb fibre at my workplace, and I get almost full speed. But it gets slower and slower over the course of several days to the point of unusability, then I reboot the router and it's flying again. What would cause this? Stuff beyond my control, or is it possible it's my gear? almost certainly. I'd have a stab at a memory leak in the NAT software It's not a fancy setup, Technicolor router with a couple of PCs plugged in and a downwind switch with a PC and a printer plugged into that. Laptop and mobile connecting wirelessly. What could cause a network to clag up? crap router software. try a different router or upgrade its firmware -- Gun Control: The law that ensures that only criminals have guns. |
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On 03/12/2018 16:32, Andy Burns wrote:
R D S wrote: What could cause a network to clag up? Poor software in the router, it could have memory leaks, or build up a stale cache of DNS results, NAT pairings etc Before the router I use now (which is somewhat an enthusiasts choice) I had a Billion and it was good, maybe this newer model would suit? https://amazon.co.uk/Billion-AC1600/dp/B07483S6BS The 8800NLR2 on that page is cheaper, but lacks dual band wifi. Billion work but the UI is for geeks on acid. Draytek are pretty decent and so to my mind are D-link -- Gun Control: The law that ensures that only criminals have guns. |
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On 03/12/2018 15:47, R D S wrote:
I've 80mb fibre at my workplace, and I get almost full speed. But it gets slower and slower over the course of several days to the point of unusability, then I reboot the router and it's flying again. What would cause this? Stuff beyond my control, or is it possible it's my gear? It's not a fancy setup, Technicolor router with a couple of PCs plugged in and a downwind switch with a PC and a printer plugged into that. Laptop and mobile connecting wirelessly. What could cause a network to clag up? As others have suggested, the router running out of resources could be a problem. Another possibility is that as the router re-trains on the line, its over optimising a little, and syncing very slightly faster than it should. This makes the error rate rise, and lowers the effective data rate.. Restarting forces it to reconnect at the VDSL level and re-negotiate. If this were the case you could test it by waiting until its running slow, then pulling the phone wire out for a few secs and then putting it back. That will force an DSL resynch. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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"John Rumm" wrote in message o.uk... On 03/12/2018 15:47, R D S wrote: I've 80mb fibre at my workplace, and I get almost full speed. But it gets slower and slower over the course of several days to the point of unusability, then I reboot the router and it's flying again. What would cause this? Stuff beyond my control, or is it possible it's my gear? It's not a fancy setup, Technicolor router with a couple of PCs plugged in and a downwind switch with a PC and a printer plugged into that. Laptop and mobile connecting wirelessly. What could cause a network to clag up? As others have suggested, the router running out of resources could be a problem. Another possibility is that as the router re-trains on the line, its over optimising a little, and syncing very slightly faster than it should. This makes the error rate rise, and lowers the effective data rate.. Restarting forces it to reconnect at the VDSL level and re-negotiate. If this were the case you could test it by waiting until its running slow, then pulling the phone wire out for a few secs and then putting it back. That will force an DSL resynch. Cant be that, he said fiber. |
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On Mon, 03 Dec 2018 18:58:29 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Draytek are pretty decent and so to my mind are D-link I have a Draytek 2860. When I got it, it seemed to be riddled with bigs (the firewall blocked TCP on port 53 (DNS) even when the firewall was turned off). To their credit, they fixed that (and later, another major bug) fairly fast. I'm still using it, and it just works. I wouldn't touch D-Link with a barge pole after their stupid NTP blunder, mainly because they wouldn't admit to it: https://tinyurl.com/og7gmfy OK, it was a while ago, but companies rarely seem to improve. -- My posts are my copyright and if @diy_forums or Home Owners' Hub wish to copy them they can pay me £1 a message. Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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On 03/12/2018 15:47, R D S wrote:
I've 80mb fibre at my workplace, and I get almost full speed. But it gets slower and slower over the course of several days to the point of unusability, then I reboot the router and it's flying again. What would cause this? Stuff beyond my control, or is it possible it's my gear? It's not a fancy setup, Technicolor router with a couple of PCs plugged in and a downwind switch with a PC and a printer plugged into that. Laptop and mobile connecting wirelessly. What could cause a network to clag up? Not sure of your problem, but I think the Technicolor is fairly basic so may be something to do with it. I've had a Fritz!box 3390 on fibre for the last four years and it hasn't missed a beat. -- F |
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On Mon, 3 Dec 2018 23:52:11 +0000, F news@nowhere wrote:
snip I've had a Fritz!box 3390 on fibre for the last four years and it hasn't missed a beat. +1 for the Frtizbox! I have a 'FRITZ!Box Fon WLAN 7140' and after having it a fair while I turned the email logging on and that was in June 2007 (and I currently have 4099 daily emails from the FritzBox). ;-) Two VOIP sockets with all sorts of functionality (I have two localised Sipgate numbers on two std DECT phones) and it does just seem to work. The only thing I have to do sometimes is to release some of the IP addresses as it seems to hang onto them, but that's about it. Cheers, T i m |
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On 03/12/2018 22:01, Bob Eager wrote:
On Mon, 03 Dec 2018 18:58:29 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: Draytek are pretty decent and so to my mind are D-link I have a Draytek 2860. When I got it, it seemed to be riddled with bigs (the firewall blocked TCP on port 53 (DNS) even when the firewall was turned off). To their credit, they fixed that (and later, another major bug) fairly fast. I'm still using it, and it just works. Ive just bought a Draytekl 2762 VAC. And its been a struggle. NFS didnt work throiugh it to my viurtualprivate servers. It remapped teh source ports to 'insecure' ranges and I had to reconfifuger te servers. SNMP montoriong was only partiua;l, and so I had to use telnet as well to gather stats The VOIP phone could dial out on any prt that was connected to a line, but only ring on the right port specified... But it os stable and connects well and it was easy to set up my printer for remote access ONLY from my private servers.. I still miss my Billion, (lightning got it) except te user interface which is probably the worst ever designed. I wouldn't touch D-Link with a barge pole after their stupid NTP blunder, mainly because they wouldn't admit to it: https://tinyurl.com/og7gmfy OK, it was a while ago, but companies rarely seem to improve. MMm. My exoeriuence is sketchy but.. D-link. A lot better than I thought. Decent SNMP really. Billion. Very good, let down by user interface. TP-Link. Simply didn't do what it claimed it would. Never got the firewall to work the way I wanted it Cisco (linksys rebadged) pretty damned good, but ran hotter tha a Morris 1000 on a motorway. Netgear, all right but not for the whole weekned. Used to die like flies every thunderstorm, -- Renewable energy: Expensive solutions that don't work to a problem that doesn't exist instituted by self legalising protection rackets that don't protect, masquerading as public servants who don't serve the public. |
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On Monday, 3 December 2018 15:47:10 UTC, R D S wrote:
I've 80mb fibre at my workplace, and I get almost full speed. But it gets slower and slower over the course of several days to the point of unusability, then I reboot the router and it's flying again. What would cause this? Stuff beyond my control, or is it possible it's my gear? It's not a fancy setup, Technicolor router with a couple of PCs plugged in and a downwind switch with a PC and a printer plugged into that. Laptop and mobile connecting wirelessly. What could cause a network to clag up? Crap cables can cause problems, I've seen it before and slightly broken or intermitant will cause errors and the error checking increases bandwidth as it resends the data. |
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"whisky-dave" wrote in message ... On Monday, 3 December 2018 15:47:10 UTC, R D S wrote: I've 80mb fibre at my workplace, and I get almost full speed. But it gets slower and slower over the course of several days to the point of unusability, then I reboot the router and it's flying again. What would cause this? Stuff beyond my control, or is it possible it's my gear? It's not a fancy setup, Technicolor router with a couple of PCs plugged in and a downwind switch with a PC and a printer plugged into that. Laptop and mobile connecting wirelessly. What could cause a network to clag up? Crap cables can cause problems, I've seen it before and slightly broken or intermitant will cause errors and the error checking increases bandwidth as it resends the data. Doesnt explain why it works fine after a router reboot and only sags days later. |
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On Tuesday, 4 December 2018 17:46:14 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message ... On Monday, 3 December 2018 15:47:10 UTC, R D S wrote: I've 80mb fibre at my workplace, and I get almost full speed. But it gets slower and slower over the course of several days to the point of unusability, then I reboot the router and it's flying again. What would cause this? Stuff beyond my control, or is it possible it's my gear? It's not a fancy setup, Technicolor router with a couple of PCs plugged in and a downwind switch with a PC and a printer plugged into that. Laptop and mobile connecting wirelessly. What could cause a network to clag up? Crap cables can cause problems, I've seen it before and slightly broken or intermitant will cause errors and the error checking increases bandwidth as it resends the data. Doesnt explain why it works fine after a router reboot and only sags days later. It did when a friend of mine had a similar problem. https://itstillworks.com/signs-ether...ght-33404.html He scrapped the cable and it solved the problem. and nowwhere did the OP say "and only sags days later" where did you get that from. |
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on 03/12/2018, The Natural Philosopher supposed :
crap router software. try a different router or upgrade its firmware I use a BT Home Hub 5 Fibre with LEDE OpenWRT installed, as my main router connected to the line. That has been absolutely stable since my move to fibre in August. I have though had a constant issue with its 802.11bgn Wifi seeming to disconnect irregularly and almost daily, from my webcam and needing to be restarted. I just haven't been able to get to the bottom of this, the 802.11nac port is completely reliable. |
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On Wednesday, 5 December 2018 09:52:29 UTC, whisky-dave wrote:
On Tuesday, 4 December 2018 17:46:14 UTC, Rod Speed wrote: "whisky-dave" wrote in message ... On Monday, 3 December 2018 15:47:10 UTC, R D S wrote: I've 80mb fibre at my workplace, and I get almost full speed. But it gets slower and slower over the course of several days to the point of unusability, then I reboot the router and it's flying again.. What would cause this? Stuff beyond my control, or is it possible it's my gear? It's not a fancy setup, Technicolor router with a couple of PCs plugged in and a downwind switch with a PC and a printer plugged into that. Laptop and mobile connecting wirelessly. What could cause a network to clag up? Crap cables can cause problems, I've seen it before and slightly broken or intermitant will cause errors and the error checking increases bandwidth as it resends the data. Doesnt explain why it works fine after a router reboot and only sags days later. It did when a friend of mine had a similar problem. https://itstillworks.com/signs-ether...ght-33404.html He scrapped the cable and it solved the problem. and nowwhere did the OP say "and only sags days later" where did you get that from. Another possibility is a network loop where broadcast packets can circulate many times round the network before they expire. It sometimes takes a while before the bad effects build up to a disruptive level. Such loops are not always obvious. One common cause in an office is for both ethernet ports of a VoIP phone which contains an internal switch for daisy-chaining a phone and PC onto one network socket to be connected to the network. John |
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On 03/12/2018 15:47, R D S wrote:
I've 80mb fibre at my workplace, and I get almost full speed. But it gets slower and slower over the course of several days to the point of unusability, then I reboot the router and it's flying again. What would cause this? Stuff beyond my control, or is it possible it's my gear? It's not a fancy setup, Technicolor router with a couple of PCs plugged in and a downwind switch with a PC and a printer plugged into that. Laptop and mobile connecting wirelessly. What could cause a network to clag up? I have seen several routers where wireless lan usage causes the behaviour you describe. I guess this is caused by a resource leak. These lost/leaked resources are restored when the router is rebooted. Regardless of what exactly is causing the problem it might be that as long as you reboot once a day the problem never occurs. So rather than wait for a slowdown reboot the router each night and see if the problem remains. If this does solve the problem you will be reasonably confident it is a problem with your router and can either buy a new one or just continue rebooting it once a day. |
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Rod Speed wrote whisky-dave wrote R D S wrote I've 80mb fibre at my workplace, and I get almost full speed. But it gets slower and slower over the course of several days to the point of unusability, then I reboot the router and it's flying again. What would cause this? Stuff beyond my control, or is it possible it's my gear? It's not a fancy setup, Technicolor router with a couple of PCs plugged in and a downwind switch with a PC and a printer plugged into that. Laptop and mobile connecting wirelessly. What could cause a network to clag up? Crap cables can cause problems, I've seen it before and slightly broken or intermitant will cause errors and the error checking increases bandwidth as it resends the data. Doesnt explain why it works fine after a router reboot and only sags days later. It did when a friend of mine had a similar problem. https://itstillworks.com/signs-ether...ght-33404.html He scrapped the cable and it solved the problem. Dont believe he had the same symptoms, works fine at full speed after a router reboot but slows down over days after that. and nowwhere did the OP say "and only sags days later" where did you get that from. Its what the first two paras say, ****wit, |
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Regardless of what exactly is causing the problem it might be that as long as you reboot once a day the problem never occurs. So rather than wait for a slowdown reboot the router each night and see if the problem remains. If this does solve the problem you will be reasonably confident it is a problem with your router and can either buy a new one or just continue rebooting it once a day. Some of them allow you to schedule regular reboots. I think an old Netgear router that I had allowed this. I had some issues (can remember what) so I scheduled a weekly reboot. The Draytek 2862 that I am using seems solid, although I dont use wireless through it, thats handled by a separate BT mesh system. Alan |
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On 03/12/2018 18:57, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 03/12/2018 15:47, R D S wrote: I've 80mb fibre at my workplace, and I get almost full speed. But it gets slower and slower over the course of several days to the point of unusability, then I reboot the router and it's flying again. What would cause this? Stuff beyond my control, or is it possible it's my gear? Can you get any diagnostics out of the thing? almost certainly. I'd have a stab at a memory leak in the NAT software +1 It's not a fancy setup, Technicolor router with a couple of PCs plugged in and a downwind switch with a PC and a printer plugged into that. Laptop and mobile connecting wirelessly. What could cause a network to clag up? crap router software. try a different router or upgrade its firmware Or failing that force it to reboot at midnight - cheap timers are an easy fix for a dodgy routers that have memory leaks (and some do). I hate the ones that hide all the useful information (if they provide it at all) behind some dreadful web interface that cannot easily be probed. -- Regards, Martin Brown |
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On Wed, 05 Dec 2018 08:46:12 -0800, AlanC wrote:
Regardless of what exactly is causing the problem it might be that as long as you reboot once a day the problem never occurs. So rather than wait for a slowdown reboot the router each night and see if the problem remains. If this does solve the problem you will be reasonably confident it is a problem with your router and can either buy a new one or just continue rebooting it once a day. Some of them allow you to schedule regular reboots. I think an old Netgear router that I had allowed this. I had some issues (can remember what) so I scheduled a weekly reboot. The Draytek 2862 that I am using seems solid, although I dont use wireless through it, thats handled by a separate BT mesh system. I have a 2860 (non wireless; the wireless APs are inside the firewall). Until recently, it hadn't been rebooted in months! Then we had a 3 hour power cut and everything went down (gracefully) after about 45 minutes. -- My posts are my copyright and if @diy_forums or Home Owners' Hub wish to copy them they can pay me £1 a message. Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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On 03/12/2018 15:47, R D S wrote:
What could cause a network to clag up? Thanks for all the responses, I can't log into the router, none of the possible default passwords i've Googled work, and i'm beyond certain I haven't changed it. And for some reason it won't factory reset. I remember we had bother with another router some years back, it was getting so hot it was going brown. I'll bin it and get something better. |
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On Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:07:37 UTC, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
I have to say that is the motrs utter ******** I have read today. Broadcast packets curculkate around thje network? Crap. What ARE you talking about? OK. I'll spell it out. A lot of VoIP phones have two ethernet ports so that one port can be connected to the network socket on the wall or in the floor and the other can have a PC plugged into it. This is useful when there are not enough network connections for all the phones and computers. It is done a lot. Sometimes people do silly things with network cables. On several occasions in my experience people have plugged BOTH network ports on a phone into a nearby network switch or into a pair of network sockets on the wall. It may not be logical or sensible, but it happens. The network now has a loop. Broadcast packets can circulate round that loop indefinitely as the time to live header is not decremented by switches. Those circulating packets get broadcast to every device on the network, using up bandwidth and processing time in the network stack of the connected devices. The symptoms vary a lot. Sometimes just the phones stop working properly as they have relatively slow processors. Other times the whole network grinds to a halt. It does not always happen immediately - it can take time for enough packets to be in circulation to cause a problem. Many switches try to minimise the harm caused by network loops. They limit the maximum throughput of broadcast packets, usually to around 10% of the connection speed. This converts a complete disaster into "just" a very sluggish network. Other switches send probe packets to detect loops and switch off the affected ports if a loop is detected. This still causes problems, especially if one of the ports involved is the uplink port of the switch. None of this is ******** or crap. I have seen it happen and have packet dumps to prove it. Look up "broadcast storm". It is a well known effect. John |
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On 06/12/2018 12:36, R D S wrote:
On 03/12/2018 15:47, R D S wrote: What could cause a network to clag up? Thanks for all the responses, I can't log into the router, none of the possible default passwords i've Googled work, and i'm beyond certain I haven't changed it. And for some reason it won't factory reset. I remember we had bother with another router some years back, it was getting so hot it was going brown. I'll bin it and get something better. When in doubt, chuck it out. I had a TPlink thast did that. I binned thet too. Or gave it away..mists of time ****.,. -- "Anyone who believes that the laws of physics are mere social conventions is invited to try transgressing those conventions from the windows of my apartment. (I live on the twenty-first floor.) " Alan Sokal |
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On Wednesday, 5 December 2018 16:30:44 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
whisky-dave wrote Rod Speed wrote whisky-dave wrote R D S wrote I've 80mb fibre at my workplace, and I get almost full speed. But it gets slower and slower over the course of several days to the point of unusability, then I reboot the router and it's flying again.. What would cause this? Stuff beyond my control, or is it possible it's my gear? It's not a fancy setup, Technicolor router with a couple of PCs plugged in and a downwind switch with a PC and a printer plugged into that. Laptop and mobile connecting wirelessly. What could cause a network to clag up? Crap cables can cause problems, I've seen it before and slightly broken or intermitant will cause errors and the error checking increases bandwidth as it resends the data. Doesnt explain why it works fine after a router reboot and only sags days later. It did when a friend of mine had a similar problem. https://itstillworks.com/signs-ether...ght-33404.html He scrapped the cable and it solved the problem. Dont believe he had the same symptoms, works fine at full speed after a router reboot but slows down over days after that. Who said that the OP said "I've 80mb fibre at my workplace, and I get almost full speed." I get almost 200mb at home. at work we have fibre too and both up and down are nearer to 500Mbps |
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On Thursday, 6 December 2018 13:06:09 UTC, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Look up "broadcast storm". It is a well known effect. Ah.. If you had said that in the first place.. I did explain what happens in my original post. I thought it was reasonably clear. But that is corporate environment with idiots playing with complex kit. But this discussion IS about an office environment. the OP wrote: "I've 80mb fibre at my workplace, and I get almost full speed. But it gets slower and slower over the course of several days to the point of unusability, then I reboot the router and it's flying again." Its not gonna happen in a domestic two pcs and a wifi laptop and TV type environnment. I could easily happen in such an environment too if somebody - perhaps a child - plays with the cables. Whereas almost everyone who commmented has had *a* router or other show this when it had a memory leak. I totally agree. Most domestic routers are bug-ridden crap. John |
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On Thu, 06 Dec 2018 04:49:44 -0800, jrwalliker wrote:
On Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:07:37 UTC, The Natural Philosopher wrote: I have to say that is the motrs utter ******** I have read today. Broadcast packets curculkate around thje network? Crap. What ARE you talking about? OK. I'll spell it out. A lot of VoIP phones have two ethernet ports so that one port can be connected to the network socket on the wall or in the floor and the other can have a PC plugged into it. And I actually have seven of these in the house, in use. At home. -- My posts are my copyright and if @diy_forums or Home Owners' Hub wish to copy them they can pay me £1 a message. Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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"whisky-dave" wrote in message ... On Wednesday, 5 December 2018 16:30:44 UTC, Rod Speed wrote: whisky-dave wrote Rod Speed wrote whisky-dave wrote R D S wrote I've 80mb fibre at my workplace, and I get almost full speed. But it gets slower and slower over the course of several days to the point of unusability, then I reboot the router and it's flying again. What would cause this? Stuff beyond my control, or is it possible it's my gear? It's not a fancy setup, Technicolor router with a couple of PCs plugged in and a downwind switch with a PC and a printer plugged into that. Laptop and mobile connecting wirelessly. What could cause a network to clag up? Crap cables can cause problems, I've seen it before and slightly broken or intermitant will cause errors and the error checking increases bandwidth as it resends the data. Doesnt explain why it works fine after a router reboot and only sags days later. It did when a friend of mine had a similar problem. https://itstillworks.com/signs-ether...ght-33404.html He scrapped the cable and it solved the problem. Dont believe he had the same symptoms, works fine at full speed after a router reboot but slows down over days after that. Who said that the OP said "I've 80mb fibre at my workplace, and I get almost full speed." Pity about the next para, ****wit. |
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On Thursday, 6 December 2018 18:54:23 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message ... On Wednesday, 5 December 2018 16:30:44 UTC, Rod Speed wrote: whisky-dave wrote Rod Speed wrote whisky-dave wrote R D S wrote I've 80mb fibre at my workplace, and I get almost full speed. But it gets slower and slower over the course of several days to the point of unusability, then I reboot the router and it's flying again. What would cause this? Stuff beyond my control, or is it possible it's my gear? It's not a fancy setup, Technicolor router with a couple of PCs plugged in and a downwind switch with a PC and a printer plugged into that. Laptop and mobile connecting wirelessly. What could cause a network to clag up? Crap cables can cause problems, I've seen it before and slightly broken or intermitant will cause errors and the error checking increases bandwidth as it resends the data. Doesnt explain why it works fine after a router reboot and only sags days later. It did when a friend of mine had a similar problem. https://itstillworks.com/signs-ether...ght-33404.html He scrapped the cable and it solved the problem. Dont believe he had the same symptoms, works fine at full speed after a router reboot but slows down over days after that. Who said that the OP said "I've 80mb fibre at my workplace, and I get almost full speed." Pity about the next para, ****wit. go find yourself a nice pigs arse or go lie in a paper bag. |
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On Wed, 11 Sep 2019 18:05:54 +0100, R D S wrote:
On 03/12/2018 15:47, R D S wrote: I've 80mb fibre at my workplace, and I get almost full speed. But it gets slower and slower over the course of several days to the point of unusability, then I reboot the router and it's flying again. What would cause this? Stuff beyond my control, or is it possible it's my gear? So I got a Draytek 2860 and all has been relatively well. A much better internet/printing experience. Ongoing though, and this week in particular i'm having a royal PIA logging onto Lloyds banking. Par? I don't know, it has been *really* bad. Have you updated the firmware in the 2860? I got one quite early on and there were some glaring problems (it wouldn't pass stuff out from port 53 even if the firewall was turned off, for example). Other than that, check the settings very carefully. -- My posts are my copyright and if @diy_forums or Home Owners' Hub wish to copy them they can pay me £1 a message. Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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Yes the only way to prove the point is to move the computer down the road
assuming its the same isp and see what occurs there. It sounds like a router issue to me, but why now? Maybe the sites have recently implimented some extra security. Do you have an add blocker, turn it off. Brian -- ----- -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "Bob Eager" wrote in message ... On Wed, 11 Sep 2019 18:05:54 +0100, R D S wrote: On 03/12/2018 15:47, R D S wrote: I've 80mb fibre at my workplace, and I get almost full speed. But it gets slower and slower over the course of several days to the point of unusability, then I reboot the router and it's flying again. What would cause this? Stuff beyond my control, or is it possible it's my gear? So I got a Draytek 2860 and all has been relatively well. A much better internet/printing experience. Ongoing though, and this week in particular i'm having a royal PIA logging onto Lloyds banking. Par? I don't know, it has been *really* bad. Have you updated the firmware in the 2860? I got one quite early on and there were some glaring problems (it wouldn't pass stuff out from port 53 even if the firewall was turned off, for example). Other than that, check the settings very carefully. -- My posts are my copyright and if @diy_forums or Home Owners' Hub wish to copy them they can pay me £1 a message. Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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On 09/11/2019 07:05 PM, R D S wrote:
"The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the authenticity of the received data could not be verified" What would be the process for diagnosing this problem? Could it possibly be at ISP level? Might be a SSL/HTTPS booboo. It's not always on your side. A lot of webservers seem rather broken in that they more or less randomly cut connections. try to bring up your browsers error console. The error messages are not always very telling and sometimes outright arbitrary, so you might have to continue with tshark or similar packet capture tool and maybe ssldump, openssl, s_client to try and replicate the failing request or which part of it triggers the bug in /their/ web server. Then you write angry emails and hope they fix it. |
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On 12/09/2019 07:45, Johann Klammer wrote:
On 09/11/2019 07:05 PM, R D S wrote: "The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the authenticity of the received data could not be verified" What would be the process for diagnosing this problem? Could it possibly be at ISP level? Might be a SSL/HTTPS booboo. It's not always on your side. A lot of webservers seem rather broken in that they more or less randomly cut connections. try to bring up your browsers error console. The error messages are not always very telling and sometimes outright arbitrary, so you might have to continue with tshark or similar packet capture tool and maybe ssldump, openssl, s_client to try and replicate the failing request or which part of it triggers the bug in /their/ web server. Then you write angry emails and hope they fix it. Does the below mean anything to anyone? Analytics utag.js:209 [Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE) [nsIURI.host]" nsresult: "0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE)" location: "JS frame :: resource://gre/modules/WebRequest.jsm :: canModify :: line 896" data: no] (unknown) [Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE) [nsIURI.host]" nsresult: "0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE)" location: "JS frame :: resource://gre/modules/WebRequest.jsm :: canModify :: line 896" data: no] |
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On 09/12/2019 02:29 PM, R D S wrote:
Does the below mean anything to anyone? Analytics utag.js:209 [Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE) [nsIURI.host]" nsresult: "0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE)" location: "JS frame :: resource://gre/modules/WebRequest.jsm :: canModify :: line 896" data: no] (unknown) [Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE) [nsIURI.host]" nsresult: "0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE)" location: "JS frame :: resource://gre/modules/WebRequest.jsm :: canModify :: line 896" data: no] Broken java script. Very common. |
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On 12/09/2019 13:29, R D S wrote:
Does the below mean anything to anyone? AnalyticsÂ* utag.js:209 [Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE) [nsIURI.host]"Â* nsresult: "0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE)"Â* location: "JS frame :: resource://gre/modules/WebRequest.jsm :: canModify :: line 896"Â* data: no] (unknown) [Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE) [nsIURI.host]"Â* nsresult: "0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE)"Â* location: "JS frame :: resource://gre/modules/WebRequest.jsm :: canModify :: line 896"Â* data: no] Looks like javascript was trying to nob some url that it couldnt find. Been hacked? Delete all cookies/caches etc etc close browser and retry -- In todays liberal progressive conflict-free education system, everyone gets full Marx. |
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