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Tim Watts[_5_] November 5th 18 11:39 AM

Dangerous copper clad aluminium stranded flex warning
 
http://www.aci.org.uk/news/aci-warns...-flexible-cord

Turkey again - haven't forgiven them for the dodgy T+E debacle (I
escaped but not until some panic - I had used a lot of cable from a
maker with a not dissimilar name).

QA seems to be somewhat wanting over there.
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Dave Plowman (News) November 5th 18 02:04 PM

Dangerous copper clad aluminium stranded flex warning
 
In article ,
Tim Watts wrote:
http://www.aci.org.uk/news/aci-warns...-flexible-cord


Turkey again - haven't forgiven them for the dodgy T+E debacle (I
escaped but not until some panic - I had used a lot of cable from a
maker with a not dissimilar name).


QA seems to be somewhat wanting over there.


And we'll soon be able to import such crap nice and easily once free of
those dreadful EU regs.

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Bill Wright[_3_] November 5th 18 02:14 PM

Dangerous copper clad aluminium stranded flex warning
 
On 05/11/2018 11:39, Tim Watts wrote:
http://www.aci.org.uk/news/aci-warns...-flexible-cord

Turkey again - haven't forgiven them for the dodgy T+E debacle (I
escaped but not until some panic - I had used a lot of cable from a
maker with a not dissimilar name).

QA seems to be somewhat wanting over there.


Thanks for that

Bill

Andrew[_22_] November 5th 18 02:16 PM

Dangerous copper clad aluminium stranded flex warning
 
On 05/11/2018 14:04, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Tim Watts wrote:
http://www.aci.org.uk/news/aci-warns...-flexible-cord


Turkey again - haven't forgiven them for the dodgy T+E debacle (I
escaped but not until some panic - I had used a lot of cable from a
maker with a not dissimilar name).


QA seems to be somewhat wanting over there.


And we'll soon be able to import such crap nice and easily once free of
those dreadful EU regs.


We did have BSI standards before everything was changed to
ENnnnnn CE marking, which were frequently the same thing.

Richard[_10_] November 5th 18 02:18 PM

Dangerous copper clad aluminium stranded flex warning
 
On 05/11/2018 14:04, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Tim Watts wrote:
http://www.aci.org.uk/news/aci-warns...-flexible-cord


Turkey again - haven't forgiven them for the dodgy T+E debacle (I
escaped but not until some panic - I had used a lot of cable from a
maker with a not dissimilar name).


QA seems to be somewhat wanting over there.


And we'll soon be able to import such crap nice and easily once free of
those dreadful EU regs.


Didn't seem *that* difficult under the EU regs, so what's your point?

Andrew[_22_] November 5th 18 02:22 PM

Dangerous copper clad aluminium stranded flex warning
 
On 05/11/2018 11:39, Tim Watts wrote:
http://www.aci.org.uk/news/aci-warns...-flexible-cord

Turkey again - haven't forgiven them for the dodgy T+E debacle (I
escaped but not until some panic - I had used a lot of cable from a
maker with a not dissimilar name).

QA seems to be somewhat wanting over there.


Or lack of proberty.

I'm sure there is a ready market for this stuff in
Brazil for wiring up those instant shower heads that
are installed at scalp height in cheap doss houses.

Tim Watts[_5_] November 5th 18 02:32 PM

Dangerous copper clad aluminium stranded flex warning
 
On 05/11/18 14:04, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Tim Watts wrote:
http://www.aci.org.uk/news/aci-warns...-flexible-cord


Turkey again - haven't forgiven them for the dodgy T+E debacle (I
escaped but not until some panic - I had used a lot of cable from a
maker with a not dissimilar name).


QA seems to be somewhat wanting over there.


And we'll soon be able to import such crap nice and easily once free of
those dreadful EU regs.


What are you on about? We're already importing it.

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Dave Plowman (News) November 5th 18 02:40 PM

Dangerous copper clad aluminium stranded flex warning
 
In article ,
Tim Watts wrote:
On 05/11/18 14:04, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Tim Watts wrote:
http://www.aci.org.uk/news/aci-warns...-flexible-cord


Turkey again - haven't forgiven them for the dodgy T+E debacle (I
escaped but not until some panic - I had used a lot of cable from a
maker with a not dissimilar name).


QA seems to be somewhat wanting over there.


And we'll soon be able to import such crap nice and easily once free of
those dreadful EU regs.


What are you on about? We're already importing it.


But it will be even cheaper once out of the EU. Just what's needed.

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Tim Watts[_5_] November 5th 18 02:58 PM

Dangerous copper clad aluminium stranded flex warning
 
On 05/11/18 14:40, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Tim Watts wrote:
On 05/11/18 14:04, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Tim Watts wrote:
http://www.aci.org.uk/news/aci-warns...-flexible-cord

Turkey again - haven't forgiven them for the dodgy T+E debacle (I
escaped but not until some panic - I had used a lot of cable from a
maker with a not dissimilar name).

QA seems to be somewhat wanting over there.

And we'll soon be able to import such crap nice and easily once free of
those dreadful EU regs.


What are you on about? We're already importing it.


But it will be even cheaper once out of the EU. Just what's needed.


That's earned you a KF for irrelevant wibbling

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Fredxx[_3_] November 5th 18 04:19 PM

Dangerous copper clad aluminium stranded flex warning
 
On 05/11/2018 14:04, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Tim Watts wrote:
http://www.aci.org.uk/news/aci-warns...-flexible-cord


Turkey again - haven't forgiven them for the dodgy T+E debacle (I
escaped but not until some panic - I had used a lot of cable from a
maker with a not dissimilar name).


QA seems to be somewhat wanting over there.


And we'll soon be able to import such crap nice and easily once free of
those dreadful EU regs.


Quite the opposite. Given Turkish goods are free to enter the EU I would
say this is because of the EU rules and regulations that allow anyone to
manufacture in a developing EU country and pass it off as safe.

As soon as we have a border and importation becomes the responsibility
of a UK entity, things will become a lot safer.

Have you never come across the BSI and its standards? You seem to have
led a blinkered life believing all standards started with the EU?


Fredxx[_3_] November 5th 18 04:22 PM

Dangerous copper clad aluminium stranded flex warning
 
On 05/11/2018 14:40, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Tim Watts wrote:
On 05/11/18 14:04, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Tim Watts wrote:
http://www.aci.org.uk/news/aci-warns...-flexible-cord

Turkey again - haven't forgiven them for the dodgy T+E debacle (I
escaped but not until some panic - I had used a lot of cable from a
maker with a not dissimilar name).

QA seems to be somewhat wanting over there.

And we'll soon be able to import such crap nice and easily once free of
those dreadful EU regs.


What are you on about? We're already importing it.


But it will be even cheaper once out of the EU. Just what's needed.


There are times when you come across as immensely ignorant.

These items are shipped to the UK because of the EU. Brexit will mean a
UK entity will import items and become the manufacturer. It will have to
conform to the existing rules and regulations, and not be some rogue
company in a far off developing country that has the right to export
free of customs restrictions to the EU.


Dave Plowman (News) November 5th 18 04:53 PM

Dangerous copper clad aluminium stranded flex warning
 
In article ,
Fredxx wrote:
On 05/11/2018 14:04, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Tim Watts wrote:
http://www.aci.org.uk/news/aci-warns...-flexible-cord


Turkey again - haven't forgiven them for the dodgy T+E debacle (I
escaped but not until some panic - I had used a lot of cable from a
maker with a not dissimilar name).


QA seems to be somewhat wanting over there.


And we'll soon be able to import such crap nice and easily once free of
those dreadful EU regs.


Quite the opposite. Given Turkish goods are free to enter the EU I would
say this is because of the EU rules and regulations that allow anyone to
manufacture in a developing EU country and pass it off as safe.


As soon as we have a border and importation becomes the responsibility
of a UK entity, things will become a lot safer.


Have you never come across the BSI and its standards? You seem to have
led a blinkered life believing all standards started with the EU?


Ah - right. Are you saying that such cable doesn't conform to UK regs, but
is forced upon us by the EU?

BTW, the UK is free as part of the EU to impose tariffs on goods from
Turkey.

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Dave Plowman (News) November 5th 18 04:55 PM

Dangerous copper clad aluminium stranded flex warning
 
In article ,
Fredxx wrote:
But it will be even cheaper once out of the EU. Just what's needed.


There are times when you come across as immensely ignorant.


These items are shipped to the UK because of the EU.


There are times when you come across as arrogant as well as stupid.

Look up the terms under which Turkey trades with the EU and EU member
countries.

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Richard[_10_] November 5th 18 05:07 PM

Dangerous copper clad aluminium stranded flex warning
 
On 05/11/2018 16:53, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Fredxx wrote:
On 05/11/2018 14:04, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Tim Watts wrote:
http://www.aci.org.uk/news/aci-warns...-flexible-cord

Turkey again - haven't forgiven them for the dodgy T+E debacle (I
escaped but not until some panic - I had used a lot of cable from a
maker with a not dissimilar name).

QA seems to be somewhat wanting over there.

And we'll soon be able to import such crap nice and easily once free of
those dreadful EU regs.


Quite the opposite. Given Turkish goods are free to enter the EU I would
say this is because of the EU rules and regulations that allow anyone to
manufacture in a developing EU country and pass it off as safe.


As soon as we have a border and importation becomes the responsibility
of a UK entity, things will become a lot safer.


Have you never come across the BSI and its standards? You seem to have
led a blinkered life believing all standards started with the EU?


Ah - right. Are you saying that such cable doesn't conform to UK regs, but
is forced upon us by the EU?

BTW, the UK is free as part of the EU to impose tariffs on goods from
Turkey.


The topic is STANDARDS, not TARIFFS.

harry November 5th 18 05:12 PM

Dangerous copper clad aluminium stranded flex warning
 
On Monday, 5 November 2018 14:08:56 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Tim Watts wrote:
http://www.aci.org.uk/news/aci-warns...-flexible-cord


Turkey again - haven't forgiven them for the dodgy T+E debacle (I
escaped but not until some panic - I had used a lot of cable from a
maker with a not dissimilar name).


QA seems to be somewhat wanting over there.


And we'll soon be able to import such crap nice and easily once free of
those dreadful EU regs.

The Grenfell tower fire was down to EUSSR regulations

charles November 5th 18 05:24 PM

Dangerous copper clad aluminium stranded flex warning
 
In article ,
Andrew wrote:
On 05/11/2018 14:04, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Tim Watts wrote:
http://www.aci.org.uk/news/aci-warns...-flexible-cord


Turkey again - haven't forgiven them for the dodgy T+E debacle (I
escaped but not until some panic - I had used a lot of cable from a
maker with a not dissimilar name).


QA seems to be somewhat wanting over there.


And we'll soon be able to import such crap nice and easily once free of
those dreadful EU regs.


We did have BSI standards before everything was changed to
ENnnnnn CE marking, which were frequently the same thing.


we still have British Standards but, yes, the may have an EN number as well.

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Fredxx[_3_] November 5th 18 05:48 PM

Dangerous copper clad aluminium stranded flex warning
 
On 05/11/2018 16:53, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Fredxx wrote:
On 05/11/2018 14:04, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Tim Watts wrote:
http://www.aci.org.uk/news/aci-warns...-flexible-cord

Turkey again - haven't forgiven them for the dodgy T+E debacle (I
escaped but not until some panic - I had used a lot of cable from a
maker with a not dissimilar name).

QA seems to be somewhat wanting over there.

And we'll soon be able to import such crap nice and easily once free of
those dreadful EU regs.


Quite the opposite. Given Turkish goods are free to enter the EU I would
say this is because of the EU rules and regulations that allow anyone to
manufacture in a developing EU country and pass it off as safe.


As soon as we have a border and importation becomes the responsibility
of a UK entity, things will become a lot safer.


Have you never come across the BSI and its standards? You seem to have
led a blinkered life believing all standards started with the EU?


Ah - right. Are you saying that such cable doesn't conform to UK regs, but
is forced upon us by the EU?

BTW, the UK is free as part of the EU to impose tariffs on goods from
Turkey.


After Brexit, yes.

Currently, NO. Turkey even has preferential arrangements as per, "1/2006
of the EC-Turkey Customs Co-operation Committee". Turkey is in effect
part of the Customs Union.


Fredxx[_3_] November 5th 18 05:48 PM

Dangerous copper clad aluminium stranded flex warning
 
On 05/11/2018 17:12, harry wrote:
On Monday, 5 November 2018 14:08:56 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Tim Watts wrote:
http://www.aci.org.uk/news/aci-warns...-flexible-cord


Turkey again - haven't forgiven them for the dodgy T+E debacle (I
escaped but not until some panic - I had used a lot of cable from a
maker with a not dissimilar name).


QA seems to be somewhat wanting over there.


And we'll soon be able to import such crap nice and easily once free of
those dreadful EU regs.

The Grenfell tower fire was down to EUSSR regulations


Which ones were they?




Fredxx[_3_] November 5th 18 05:49 PM

Dangerous copper clad aluminium stranded flex warning
 
On 05/11/2018 16:55, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Fredxx wrote:
But it will be even cheaper once out of the EU. Just what's needed.


There are times when you come across as immensely ignorant.


These items are shipped to the UK because of the EU.


There are times when you come across as arrogant as well as stupid.

Look up the terms under which Turkey trades with the EU and EU member
countries.


I have and seen documents regarding their preferential treatment.

Perhaps you should look harder.


Vir Campestris November 5th 18 08:58 PM

Dangerous copper clad aluminium stranded flex warning
 
On 05/11/2018 17:48, Fredxx wrote:

Currently, NO. Turkey even has preferential arrangements as per, "1/2006
of the EC-Turkey Customs Co-operation Committee". Turkey is in effect
part of the Customs Union.


The fact that Turkey is, or is not, part of the EU is irrelevant. EU
regulations control imports into the UK, and the Westminster government
has no control over them.

Andy

Tim Watts[_5_] November 5th 18 10:07 PM

Dangerous copper clad aluminium stranded flex warning
 
On 05/11/18 17:49, Fredxx wrote:
On 05/11/2018 16:55, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Â*Â*Â* Fredxx wrote:
But it will be even cheaper once out of the EU. Just what's needed.


There are times when you come across as immensely ignorant.


These items are shipped to the UK because of the EU.


There are times when you come across as arrogant as well as stupid.

Look up the terms under which Turkey trades with the EU and EU member
countries.


I have and seen documents regarding their preferential treatment.

Perhaps you should look harder.


Who would have guessed that a cable warning would go full BREXIT?

Silly Dave...

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Dave Plowman (News) November 6th 18 10:27 AM

Dangerous copper clad aluminium stranded flex warning
 
In article ,
Fredxx wrote:
On 05/11/2018 16:55, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Fredxx wrote:
But it will be even cheaper once out of the EU. Just what's needed.


There are times when you come across as immensely ignorant.


These items are shipped to the UK because of the EU.


There are times when you come across as arrogant as well as stupid.

Look up the terms under which Turkey trades with the EU and EU member
countries.


I have and seen documents regarding their preferential treatment.


Then perhaps you should read them.

Perhaps you should look harder.


Perhaps you should re think the freedom of choice you Brexiteers go on and
on about.

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Dave Plowman (News) November 6th 18 10:30 AM

Dangerous copper clad aluminium stranded flex warning
 
In article ,
Tim Watts wrote:
On 05/11/18 17:49, Fredxx wrote:
On 05/11/2018 16:55, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Fredxx wrote:
But it will be even cheaper once out of the EU. Just what's needed.

There are times when you come across as immensely ignorant.

These items are shipped to the UK because of the EU.

There are times when you come across as arrogant as well as stupid.

Look up the terms under which Turkey trades with the EU and EU member
countries.


I have and seen documents regarding their preferential treatment.

Perhaps you should look harder.


Who would have guessed that a cable warning would go full BREXIT?


Silly Dave...


All about being able to buy the very cheapest ****e from anywhere in the
world. Surely this is a Brexiteer principle?

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Dave Plowman (News) November 6th 18 10:32 AM

Dangerous copper clad aluminium stranded flex warning
 
In article ,
Vir Campestris wrote:
On 05/11/2018 17:48, Fredxx wrote:

Currently, NO. Turkey even has preferential arrangements as per, "1/2006
of the EC-Turkey Customs Co-operation Committee". Turkey is in effect
part of the Customs Union.


The fact that Turkey is, or is not, part of the EU is irrelevant. EU
regulations control imports into the UK, and the Westminster government
has no control over them.


Not so, Andy. All the EU controls is any tariffs that may have to be
applied.

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Richard[_10_] November 6th 18 10:53 AM

Dangerous copper clad aluminium stranded flex warning
 
On 06/11/2018 10:30, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Tim Watts wrote:
On 05/11/18 17:49, Fredxx wrote:
On 05/11/2018 16:55, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Fredxx wrote:
But it will be even cheaper once out of the EU. Just what's needed.

There are times when you come across as immensely ignorant.

These items are shipped to the UK because of the EU.

There are times when you come across as arrogant as well as stupid.

Look up the terms under which Turkey trades with the EU and EU member
countries.

I have and seen documents regarding their preferential treatment.

Perhaps you should look harder.


Who would have guessed that a cable warning would go full BREXIT?


Silly Dave...


All about being able to buy the very cheapest ****e from anywhere in the
world. Surely this is a Brexiteer principle?


You definitely are in need of therapy.

[email protected] November 6th 18 02:31 PM

Dangerous copper clad aluminium stranded flex warning
 
On Tuesday, 6 November 2018 10:53:28 UTC, Richard wrote:
On 06/11/2018 10:30, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Tim Watts wrote:


Who would have guessed that a cable warning would go full BREXIT?


Silly Dave...


All about being able to buy the very cheapest ****e from anywhere in the
world. Surely this is a Brexiteer principle?


You definitely are in need of therapy.


It's either stupidity or trolling.


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