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Mike October 20th 18 12:23 PM

paint problem
 

I'm repainting woodwork inside a 1928 house. Some of the interior white
gloss is certainly more than 35 years old, possibly much more. I'm
stripping it in case there's lead in the paint. Some of the gloss white
paint does not soften with a hot air gun, nor Paint Panther chemical
stripper. Any suggestions to get it off? Or shall I just sand it and
take my chance on the lead.





charles October 20th 18 12:37 PM

paint problem
 
In article ,
Mike wrote:

I'm repainting woodwork inside a 1928 house. Some of the interior white
gloss is certainly more than 35 years old, possibly much more. I'm
stripping it in case there's lead in the paint. Some of the gloss white
paint does not soften with a hot air gun, nor Paint Panther chemical
stripper. Any suggestions to get it off? Or shall I just sand it and
take my chance on the lead.




an old fashioned blow lamp (aka cordless hot-air gun)

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FMurtz October 20th 18 01:16 PM

paint problem
 
Mike wrote:

I'm repainting woodwork inside a 1928 house. Some of the interior white
gloss is certainly more than 35 years old, possibly much more. I'm
stripping it in case there's lead in the paint. Some of the gloss white
paint does not soften with a hot air gun, nor Paint Panther chemical
stripper. Any suggestions to get it off? Or shall I just sand it and
take my chance on the lead.





If you were not English,something with a goodly proportion of methylene
chloride in it.

newshound October 20th 18 01:27 PM

paint problem
 
On 20/10/2018 12:37, charles wrote:
In article ,
Mike wrote:

I'm repainting woodwork inside a 1928 house. Some of the interior white
gloss is certainly more than 35 years old, possibly much more. I'm
stripping it in case there's lead in the paint. Some of the gloss white
paint does not soften with a hot air gun, nor Paint Panther chemical
stripper. Any suggestions to get it off? Or shall I just sand it and
take my chance on the lead.




an old fashioned blow lamp (aka cordless hot-air gun)

He said the paint doesn't soften with a hot air gun. That seems wrong to
me (although I agree that a decent blow-lamp, or (easier) a propane
torch, should do it).

My hot air gun has a restrictor nozzle to get the temperature up. Don't
think I have ever needed it, though.

Jim K[_3_] October 20th 18 02:21 PM

paint problem
 
FMurtz Wrote in message:
Mike wrote:

I'm repainting woodwork inside a 1928 house. Some of the interior white
gloss is certainly more than 35 years old, possibly much more. I'm
stripping it in case there's lead in the paint. Some of the gloss white
paint does not soften with a hot air gun, nor Paint Panther chemical
stripper. Any suggestions to get it off? Or shall I just sand it and
take my chance on the lead.





If you were not English,something with a goodly proportion of methylene
chloride in it.


Ebay UK item 332009502121
99.9% material
500ml
£gb 9.99 posted

Others are easily available...

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FMurtz October 20th 18 03:30 PM

paint problem
 
Jim K wrote:
Ebay UK item 332009502121

Not that you would want to use pure methylene chloride but The UK is
making it difficult to buy paint remover in paint shops and hardware
with it in it

Jim K[_3_] October 20th 18 04:21 PM

paint problem
 
FMurtz Wrote in message:
Jim K wrote:
Ebay UK item 332009502121

Not that you would want to use pure methylene chloride but The UK is
making it difficult to buy paint remover in paint shops and hardware
with it in it


Is there a better way to get the strength required to strip paint?
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[email protected] October 20th 18 04:49 PM

paint problem
 
On Saturday, 20 October 2018 12:23:54 UTC+1, Mike wrote:

I'm repainting woodwork inside a 1928 house. Some of the interior white
gloss is certainly more than 35 years old, possibly much more. I'm
stripping it in case there's lead in the paint. Some of the gloss white
paint does not soften with a hot air gun, nor Paint Panther chemical
stripper. Any suggestions to get it off? Or shall I just sand it and
take my chance on the lead.


if it doesn't want to come off, leave it on! Consider yourself lucky.

Sanding lead is, er, not smart. Burning it off indoors ditto.


NT

Max Demian October 20th 18 05:17 PM

paint problem
 
On 20/10/2018 15:30, FMurtz wrote:
Jim K wrote:
Ebay UK item 332009502121

Not that you would want to use pure methylene chloride but The UK is
making it difficult to buy paint remover in paint shops and hardware
with it in it


what's supposed to be so dangerous about methylene chloride?

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Max Demian

The Natural Philosopher[_2_] October 20th 18 05:22 PM

paint problem
 
On 20/10/2018 17:17, Max Demian wrote:
On 20/10/2018 15:30, FMurtz wrote:
Jim K wrote:
Ebay UK item 332009502121

Not that you would want to use pure methylene chloride but The UK is
making it difficult to buy paint remover in paint shops and hardware
with it in it


what's supposed to be so dangerous about methylene chloride?

The fumes can kill you.


--
The New Left are the people they warned you about.

Max Demian October 20th 18 06:23 PM

paint problem
 
On 20/10/2018 17:22, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 20/10/2018 17:17, Max Demian wrote:
On 20/10/2018 15:30, FMurtz wrote:
Jim K wrote:
Ebay UK item 332009502121
Not that you would want to use pure methylene chloride but The UK is
making it difficult to buy paint remover in paint shops and hardware
with it in it


what's supposed to be so dangerous about methylene chloride?

The fumes can kill you.


No they can't. I worked in a lab for years that used it and must have
breathed in loads. It's only dangerous if it comes in contact with a
naked flame or red hot surface - it's not flammable but the heat causes
it to turn into something nasty - or that in combination with the air.

--
Max Demian

The Natural Philosopher[_2_] October 20th 18 06:29 PM

paint problem
 
On 20/10/2018 18:23, Max Demian wrote:
On 20/10/2018 17:22, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 20/10/2018 17:17, Max Demian wrote:
On 20/10/2018 15:30, FMurtz wrote:
Jim K wrote:
Ebay UK item 332009502121
Not that you would want to use pure methylene chloride but The UK is
making it difficult to buy paint remover in paint shops and hardware
with it in it

what's supposed to be so dangerous about methylene chloride?

The fumes can kill you.


No they can't.


I have no skin in this game. The internet says they can, and have.

http://jordanbarab.com/confinedspace...loride-deaths/


I worked in a lab for years that used it and must have
breathed in loads. It's only dangerous if it comes in contact with a
naked flame or red hot surface - it's not flammable but the heat causes
it to turn into something nasty - or that in combination with the air.


See my link.

I agree its safe if you aren't STUPID with it, but sadly peole are just
that.

I nearly pased out and died when visting a brewery - I wanted to get a
good sniff of the fermnentation vats. I got a lungful of pure CO2.

Its just as dangerous.


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In a Time of Universal Deceit, Telling the Truth Is a Revolutionary Act.

- George Orwell

Rod Speed October 20th 18 06:54 PM

paint problem
 


"Max Demian" wrote in message
...
On 20/10/2018 17:22, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 20/10/2018 17:17, Max Demian wrote:
On 20/10/2018 15:30, FMurtz wrote:
Jim K wrote:
Ebay UK item 332009502121
Not that you would want to use pure methylene chloride but The UK is
making it difficult to buy paint remover in paint shops and hardware
with it in it

what's supposed to be so dangerous about methylene chloride?

The fumes can kill you.


No they can't.


Yes they can.

I worked in a lab for years that used it and must have breathed in loads.
It's only dangerous if it comes in contact with a naked flame or red hot
surface


That is just plain wrong.

- it's not flammable


Wrong again.

but the heat causes it to turn into something nasty


Yes.

- or that in combination with the air.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dichloromethane#Toxicity


Peeler[_2_] October 20th 18 08:03 PM

Senile Ozzie Troll Alert!
 
On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 04:54:53 +1100, cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rot
Speed blabbered, again:

The fumes can kill you.


No they can't.


Yes they can.


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That is just plain wrong.


BRUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!

Wrong again.


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Get treatment, senile idiot!

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"Auto-contradictor Rod is back! (in the KF)"
MID:

Dave W[_3_] October 20th 18 08:55 PM

paint problem
 
On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 17:17:31 +0100, Max Demian
wrote:

On 20/10/2018 15:30, FMurtz wrote:
Jim K wrote:
Ebay UK item 332009502121

Not that you would want to use pure methylene chloride but The UK is
making it difficult to buy paint remover in paint shops and hardware
with it in it


what's supposed to be so dangerous about methylene chloride?


What's supposed to be so dangerous about lead in paint that can't be
removed?
--
Dave W

[email protected] October 20th 18 09:57 PM

paint problem
 
On Saturday, 20 October 2018 20:55:59 UTC+1, Dave W wrote:
On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 17:17:31 +0100, Max Demian
wrote:
On 20/10/2018 15:30, FMurtz wrote:
Jim K wrote:
Ebay UK item 332009502121
Not that you would want to use pure methylene chloride but The UK is
making it difficult to buy paint remover in paint shops and hardware
with it in it


what's supposed to be so dangerous about methylene chloride?


What's supposed to be so dangerous about lead in paint that can't be
removed?


Kids have sometimes nibbled on it with terrible results. Otherwise it's a relatively good paint for protecting wood.


NT

newshound October 21st 18 01:30 PM

paint problem
 
On 20/10/2018 16:49, wrote:
On Saturday, 20 October 2018 12:23:54 UTC+1, Mike wrote:

I'm repainting woodwork inside a 1928 house. Some of the interior white
gloss is certainly more than 35 years old, possibly much more. I'm
stripping it in case there's lead in the paint. Some of the gloss white
paint does not soften with a hot air gun, nor Paint Panther chemical
stripper. Any suggestions to get it off? Or shall I just sand it and
take my chance on the lead.


if it doesn't want to come off, leave it on! Consider yourself lucky.

Sanding lead is, er, not smart. Burning it off indoors ditto.


NT


I don't think you are going to get volatile organic lead compounds from
using heat to soften it. And certainly less airborne dust than from sanding.


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