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I've just read the second recent article in the local paper about
break-ins using a blow torch. Googling with my subject line brings up
dozens of examples.

Is this the burglar's response to bump-proof eurolocks?

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I've just read the second recent article in the local paper about
break-ins using a blow torch. Googling with my subject line brings up
dozens of examples.

Is this the burglar's response to bump-proof eurolocks?

Nick


& snap-safe etc I'd suspect
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On Friday, 14 September 2018 14:48:28 UTC+1, Nick Odell wrote:
I've just read the second recent article in the local paper about
break-ins using a blow torch. Googling with my subject line brings up
dozens of examples.

Is this the burglar's response to bump-proof eurolocks?

Nick


uPVC windows and doors.
They use a blowlamp to soften the plastic....Silent!
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On 14/09/2018 16:47, harry wrote:
On Friday, 14 September 2018 14:48:28 UTC+1, Nick Odell wrote:
I've just read the second recent article in the local paper about
break-ins using a blow torch. Googling with my subject line brings up
dozens of examples.

Is this the burglar's response to bump-proof eurolocks?

Nick


uPVC windows and doors.
They use a blowlamp to soften the plastic....Silent!


But surely these things are actually located within the extruded
aluminium internals?
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Jethro_uk wrote:

Nick Odell wrote:

I've just read the second recent article in the local paper about
break-ins using a blow torch.


Would that work with multi-point locks ?


If it gives them access to where the lock activates the multi-point
mechanism/gearbox


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On 14/09/2018 17:19, Jethro_uk wrote:

Also, just opening the door is of little value if you immediately trip an
alarm as you blunder through ?


1. The alarm is tripped.

2. A minute or two later a guy from the monitoring station rings up to
check it's not a false alarm. He waits on the phone for at least 30 seconds.

3. A minute or two after that, the police have the details from the
monitoring station.

4. If it's high enough priority, a minute or two after that, a police
car is on its way.

So, the scrotes have a good 5 minutes after the alarm is activated to
grab what they can and leave. If they leave on a motor scooter, some
police forces still have the policy of not pursuing them.
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"Nick Odell" wrote in message
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I've just read the second recent article in the local paper about
break-ins using a blow torch. Googling with my subject line brings up
dozens of examples.

Is this the burglar's response to bump-proof eurolocks?

Nick


In Glasgow we prefer the old fashioned method...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRzk6ArKj18


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"Nick Odell" wrote in message
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I've just read the second recent article in the local paper about
break-ins using a blow torch. Googling with my subject line brings up
dozens of examples.

Is this the burglar's response to bump-proof eurolocks?

Nick


In Glasgow we prefer the old fashioned method...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRzk6ArKj18


you will notice the two wummin' cops are only there for decoration....tee
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"GB" wrote in message
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On 14/09/2018 17:19, Jethro_uk wrote:

Also, just opening the door is of little value if you immediately trip an
alarm as you blunder through ?


1. The alarm is tripped.

2. A minute or two later a guy from the monitoring station rings up to
check it's not a false alarm. He waits on the phone for at least 30
seconds.


Makes more sense to have remote access to the cameras in the house
now and it will be obvious that he's wrecked the door to get in.

3. A minute or two after that, the police have the details from the
monitoring station.


4. If it's high enough priority, a minute or two after that, a police car
is on its way.


So, the scrotes have a good 5 minutes after the alarm is activated to grab
what they can and leave.


Not hard to ensure that they can't grab anything that matters in 5 minutes.

If they leave on a motor scooter, some police forces still have the policy
of not pursuing them.


Cant take much that isnt easy to secure, away on a motor scooter.
And the cameras have the full details of the scooter anyway.

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Rod Speed wrote:


"GB" wrote in message
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On 14/09/2018 17:19, Jethro_uk wrote:

Also, just opening the door is of little value if you immediately trip an
alarm as you blunder through ?


1. The alarm is tripped.

2. A minute or two later a guy from the monitoring station rings up to
check it's not a false alarm. He waits on the phone for at least 30
seconds.


Makes more sense to have remote access to the cameras in the house
now and it will be obvious that he's wrecked the door to get in.

3. A minute or two after that, the police have the details from the
monitoring station.


4. If it's high enough priority, a minute or two after that, a police car
is on its way.


So, the scrotes have a good 5 minutes after the alarm is activated to grab
what they can and leave.


Not hard to ensure that they can't grab anything that matters in 5 minutes.

If they leave on a motor scooter, some police forces still have the policy
of not pursuing them.


Cant take much that isnt easy to secure, away on a motor scooter.
And the cameras have the full details of the scooter anyway.



For a country raised from criminal stock you don’t seem to have inherited
the characteristics of a thief,
OTOH it is only the stupid ones who got caught so perhaps that explains it.

The scooter will be stolen, on false plates ,built from bits of others or a
combination of all that,
Either way it will more than likely found abandoned nearby and set on fire
while the riders will have got a lift from mate in a stolen or falsely
registered car. And cameras normally don’t have the ability to see faces
obscured by hoodies and balaclavas which the scooters often wear.

As for alarms another technique in a remote location is to trip the alarm
,retreat ,see if anyone comes, and repeat. If any one comes you get an idea
how long a response takes and come back another day. If no one comes you
proceed to rob the place. In both instances hiding your features from
recognition on camera by masks, balaclavas etc and wearing disposable
gloves and ideally a disposable one piece protective suit like those used
by asbestos removal workers. Cheap as chips.
Fortunately many scrotes aren’t that intelligent enough to take al such
precautions.

GH



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