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What sort are you using to meet the 18th edn requirement? There seems to be close to nothing on ebay, & screwsatan et al are charging high prices for what are little more than strips of coke can.
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Andy Burns Wrote in message:
wrote: What sort are you using to meet the 18th edn requirement? Maybe more will be available by the time it goes live next January? ;-) -- -- Jim K ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On Thursday, 16 August 2018 16:45:40 UTC+1, wrote:
What sort are you using to meet the 18th edn requirement? There seems to be close to nothing on ebay, & screwsatan et al are charging high prices for what are little more than strips of coke can. NT Google:- buckle cable clips. |
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On Thursday, 16 August 2018 18:08:23 UTC+1, harry wrote:
On Thursday, 16 August 2018 16:45:40 UTC+1, tabby wrote: What sort are you using to meet the 18th edn requirement? There seems to be close to nothing on ebay, & screwsatan et al are charging high prices for what are little more than strips of coke can. NT Google:- buckle cable clips. same high prices NT |
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On Thursday, 16 August 2018 16:57:53 UTC+1, Andy Burns wrote:
tabbypurr: What sort are you using to meet the 18th edn requirement? Maybe more will be available by the time it goes live next January? that seems fairly obvious |
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wrote: On Thursday, 16 August 2018 18:08:23 UTC+1, harry wrote: On Thursday, 16 August 2018 16:45:40 UTC+1, tabby wrote: What sort are you using to meet the 18th edn requirement? There seems to be close to nothing on ebay, & screwsatan et al are charging high prices for what are little more than strips of coke can. NT Google:- buckle cable clips. same high prices When I learned about electrical installation, all there were were metal buckles and then came these plastic clips. ;-) -- from KT24 in Surrey, England "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle |
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Memories of sore fingers and thumbs using metal buckle clips. Surely some enterprising soul will create a one nail clip similar to current plastic ones but which doesn't melt in a fire. (Except of course most metals do melt at some point)
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Cynic Wrote in message:
Memories of sore fingers and thumbs using metal buckle clips. Surely some enterprising soul will create a one nail clip similar to current plastic ones but which doesn't melt in a fire. (Except of course most metals do melt at some point) Asbestos' finest hour beckons.... -- -- Jim K ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On Friday, 17 August 2018 08:34:48 UTC+1, Cynic wrote:
Memories of sore fingers and thumbs using metal buckle clips. Surely some enterprising soul will create a one nail clip similar to current plastic ones but which doesn't melt in a fire. (Except of course most metals do melt at some point) I've always wondered if a bit of metal could be embedded in the current design of plastic clip. I'd forgotten about the sore fingers. NT |
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On 17/08/2018 10:17, Tim Watts wrote:
On 17/08/18 10:02, wrote: On Friday, 17 August 2018 08:34:48 UTC+1, CynicÂ* wrote: Memories of sore fingers and thumbs using metal buckle clips. Surely some enterprising soul will create a one nail clip similar to current plastic ones but which doesn't melt in a fire. (Except of course most metals do melt at some point) I've always wondered if a bit of metal could be embedded in the current design of plastic clip. I'd forgotten about the sore fingers. NT It would be very easy to make a retrofit u-sleeve that fitted over the top of a standard plastic clip and which the same nail held in place. Plastic protects cable from sharpish metal edge. Old clips can be used up. New clips can be sold with metal in place. Possibly: a. the time cost of removing the nail, fitting the sleeve and then replacing the nail would exceed the saving for pros, and pros dominate the market? plus b. there's little or no profit to be made in of developing, certifying and marketing a product which has only a limited life (and double and redouble that if you are an existing manufacturer of cable clips as any sales of the add-on displace sales of new fire-rated clips)? But if you think there's a market for your product then go for it: we need profitable entrepreneurs! -- Robin reply-to address is (intended to be) valid |
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On Friday, 17 August 2018 10:34:59 UTC+1, Robin wrote:
On 17/08/2018 10:17, Tim Watts wrote: On 17/08/18 10:02, tabbypurr wrote: On Friday, 17 August 2018 08:34:48 UTC+1, CynicÂ* wrote: Memories of sore fingers and thumbs using metal buckle clips. Surely some enterprising soul will create a one nail clip similar to current plastic ones but which doesn't melt in a fire. (Except of course most metals do melt at some point) I've always wondered if a bit of metal could be embedded in the current design of plastic clip. I'd forgotten about the sore fingers. NT It would be very easy to make a retrofit u-sleeve that fitted over the top of a standard plastic clip and which the same nail held in place. Plastic protects cable from sharpish metal edge. Old clips can be used up. New clips can be sold with metal in place. Possibly: a. the time cost of removing the nail, fitting the sleeve and then replacing the nail would exceed the saving for pros, and pros dominate the market? plus b. there's little or no profit to be made in of developing, certifying and marketing a product which has only a limited life (and double and redouble that if you are an existing manufacturer of cable clips as any sales of the add-on displace sales of new fire-rated clips)? But if you think there's a market for your product then go for it: we need profitable entrepreneurs! and you can't reinsert nails unless you glue them in. |
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"Robin" wrote in message ... On 17/08/2018 10:38, wrote: and you can't reinsert nails unless you glue them in. Cite, please? It isnt a legal requirement, just basic physics, so no cite required. Try it. |
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On 17/08/2018 10:48, Rod Speed wrote:
"Robin" wrote in message ... On 17/08/2018 10:38, wrote: and you can't reinsert nails unless you glue them in. Cite, please? It isnt a legal requirement, just basic physics, so no cite required. Try it. This is about reinserting the nails in the plastic cable clip, not in the original hole. I cannot see why anyone would envisage reinserting a nail in the same hole when (a) the new requirement is not retrospective and (b) a cable clip can in any event be moved fractionally to use a new hole -- Robin reply-to address is (intended to be) valid |
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"Robin" wrote in message ... On 17/08/2018 10:48, Rod Speed wrote: "Robin" wrote in message ... On 17/08/2018 10:38, wrote: and you can't reinsert nails unless you glue them in. Cite, please? It isnt a legal requirement, just basic physics, so no cite required. Try it. This is about reinserting the nails in the plastic cable clip, not in the original hole. I cannot see why anyone would envisage reinserting a nail in the same hole when (a) the new requirement is not retrospective and (b) a cable clip can in any event be moved fractionally to use a new hole That isnt reinserting, thats a new hole. |
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On 17/08/2018 11:12, Rod Speed wrote:
"Robin" wrote in message ... On 17/08/2018 10:48, Rod Speed wrote: "Robin" wrote in message ... On 17/08/2018 10:38, wrote: and you can't reinsert nails unless you glue them in. Cite, please? It isnt a legal requirement, just basic physics, so no cite required. Try it. This is about reinserting the nails in the plastic cable clip, not in the original hole. I cannot see why anyone would envisage reinserting a nail in the same hole when (a) the new requirement is not retrospective and (b) a cable clip can in any event be moved fractionally to use a new hole That isnt reinserting, thats a new hole. If it's not "reinserting" the nail in the plastic cable clip then what gerund do you recommend be used instead? -- Robin reply-to address is (intended to be) valid |
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On Friday, 17 August 2018 11:20:32 UTC+1, Robin wrote:
On 17/08/2018 11:12, Rod Speed wrote: "Robin" wrote in message ... On 17/08/2018 10:48, Rod Speed wrote: "Robin" wrote in message ... On 17/08/2018 10:38, tabbypurr wrote: and you can't reinsert nails unless you glue them in. Cite, please? It isnt a legal requirement, just basic physics, so no cite required. Try it. This is about reinserting the nails in the plastic cable clip, not in the original hole. I cannot see why anyone would envisage reinserting a nail in the same hole when (a) the new requirement is not retrospective and (b) a cable clip can in any event be moved fractionally to use a new hole That isnt reinserting, thats a new hole. If it's not "reinserting" the nail in the plastic cable clip then what gerund do you recommend be used instead? lol. Usenet! |
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On 17/08/18 10:34, Robin wrote:
On 17/08/2018 10:17, Tim Watts wrote: On 17/08/18 10:02, wrote: On Friday, 17 August 2018 08:34:48 UTC+1, CynicÂ* wrote: Memories of sore fingers and thumbs using metal buckle clips. Surely some enterprising soul will create a one nail clip similar to current plastic ones but which doesn't melt in a fire. (Except of course most metals do melt at some point) I've always wondered if a bit of metal could be embedded in the current design of plastic clip. I'd forgotten about the sore fingers. NT It would be very easy to make a retrofit u-sleeve that fitted over the top of a standard plastic clip and which the same nail held in place. Plastic protects cable from sharpish metal edge. Old clips can be used up. New clips can be sold with metal in place. Possibly: a.Â*Â*Â* the time cost of removing the nail, fitting the sleeve and then replacing the nail would exceed the saving for pros, and pros dominate the market? plus b.Â*Â*Â* there's little or no profit to be made in of developing, certifying and marketing a product which has only a limited life (and double and redouble that if you are an existing manufacturer of cable clips as any sales of the add-on displace sales of new fire-rated clips)? Maybe on the retro fit I'd agree. But a) are you telling me cable clips are certified? I'd be surprised. b) It would be a minor adaption to an existing product that for new production makes sense. But if you think there's a market for your product then go for it: we need profitable entrepreneurs! I don't "do* being an entrepreneur I'd be crap. |
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On 17/08/2018 12:41, Tim Watts wrote:
On 17/08/18 10:34, Robin wrote: On 17/08/2018 10:17, Tim Watts wrote: On 17/08/18 10:02, wrote: On Friday, 17 August 2018 08:34:48 UTC+1, CynicÂ* wrote: Memories of sore fingers and thumbs using metal buckle clips. Surely some enterprising soul will create a one nail clip similar to current plastic ones but which doesn't melt in a fire. (Except of course most metals do melt at some point) I've always wondered if a bit of metal could be embedded in the current design of plastic clip. I'd forgotten about the sore fingers. NT It would be very easy to make a retrofit u-sleeve that fitted over the top of a standard plastic clip and which the same nail held in place. Plastic protects cable from sharpish metal edge. Old clips can be used up. New clips can be sold with metal in place. Possibly: a.Â*Â*Â* the time cost of removing the nail, fitting the sleeve and then replacing the nail would exceed the saving for pros, and pros dominate the market? plus b.Â*Â*Â* there's little or no profit to be made in of developing, certifying and marketing a product which has only a limited life (and double and redouble that if you are an existing manufacturer of cable clips as any sales of the add-on displace sales of new fire-rated clips)? Maybe on the retro fit I'd agree. But a) are you telling me cable clips are certified? I'd be surprised. My mistake. I misremembered the BS for fire alarms. b) It would be a minor adaption to an existing product that for new production makes sense. But if you think there's a market for your product then go for it: we need profitable entrepreneurs! I don't "do* being an entrepreneur I'd be crap. -- Robin reply-to address is (intended to be) valid |
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"Robin" wrote in message ... On 17/08/2018 11:12, Rod Speed wrote: "Robin" wrote in message ... On 17/08/2018 10:48, Rod Speed wrote: "Robin" wrote in message ... On 17/08/2018 10:38, wrote: and you can't reinsert nails unless you glue them in. Cite, please? It isnt a legal requirement, just basic physics, so no cite required. Try it. This is about reinserting the nails in the plastic cable clip, not in the original hole. I cannot see why anyone would envisage reinserting a nail in the same hole when (a) the new requirement is not retrospective and (b) a cable clip can in any event be moved fractionally to use a new hole That isnt reinserting, thats a new hole. If it's not "reinserting" the nail in the plastic cable clip then what gerund do you recommend be used instead? Either a new hole close to the old one or use some glue if reusing the old hole. |
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On Sat, 18 Aug 2018 05:32:16 +1000, cantankerous geezer Rot Speed blabbered,
again: This is about reinserting the nails in the plastic cable clip, not in the original hole. I cannot see why anyone would envisage reinserting a nail in the same hole when (a) the new requirement is not retrospective and (b) a cable clip can in any event be moved fractionally to use a new hole That isnt reinserting, that¢s a new hole. If it's not "reinserting" the nail in the plastic cable clip then what gerund do you recommend be used instead? Either a new hole close to the old one or use some glue if reusing the old hole. snicker https://thetravellingtiles.files.wor...b6f9820001.jpg -- Sqwertz to Rot Speed: "This is just a hunch, but I'm betting you're kinda an argumentative asshole. MID: |
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