Can anyone guess who fitted them to the roof of my van?

Actually it was not very funny.

I did, with the help of a bloke in a pickup with orange flashing lights
on the roof that stopped to help manage to get them off the motorway
(they were blocking lanes 2 and 3) throw them down the banking of the
hard shoulder, get the motorway running again and **** off before the
police arrived.

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ARW wrote:

it was not very funny.

yeah, a nasty 'obstacle' to come across

manage to get them off the motorway
(they were blocking lanes 2 and 3) throw them down the banking of the
hard shoulder, get the motorway running again and **** off before the
police arrived.

cameras?

On 13/07/18 19:20, ARW wrote:
Can anyone guess who fitted them to the roof of my van?

Actually it was not very funny.

I did, with the help of a bloke in a pickup with orange flashing lights
on the roof that stopped to help manage to get them off the motorway
(they were blocking lanes 2 and 3) throw them down the banking of the
hard shoulder, get the motorway running again and **** off before the
police arrived.

Oops.

On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 19:24:18 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:

cameras?

DNA?

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The Other John wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

cameras?

DNA?

postcode engraved on them?

On 13/07/2018 19:20, ARW wrote:
Can anyone guess who fitted them to the roof of my van?

The same apprentice you zapped with a megger?



Actually it was not very funny.

I did, with the help of a bloke in a pickup with orange flashing lights
on the roof that stopped to help manage to get them off the motorway
(they were blocking lanes 2 and 3) throw them down the banking of the
hard shoulder, get the motorway running again and **** off before the
police arrived.


Strictly, of course, it's the driver's responsibility to check the
safety of the load. If somebody had been hurt, you could have done time,
not the apprentice. I could work with a lazy bugger, and have done so,
but I'm not sure that I could cope with somebody who could land me in jail.

On 13/07/2018 19:41, Andy Burns wrote:
The Other John wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

cameras?

DNA?

postcode engraved on them?


Only on the ladder clamps that I took with me.

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On 13/07/2018 19:24, Andy Burns wrote:
ARW wrote:

it was not very funny.

yeah, a nasty 'obstacle' to come across

manage to get them off the motorway (they were blocking lanes 2 and 3)
throw them down the banking of the hard shoulder, get the motorway
running again and **** off before the police arrived.

cameras?

Almost certainly.

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On 13/07/2018 19:40, The Other John wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 19:24:18 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:

cameras?

DNA?


Who needs DNA with van that had a company m#name and phone number on it?

And number plates.

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Were they that badly damaged?
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Can anyone guess who fitted them to the roof of my van?

Actually it was not very funny.

I did, with the help of a bloke in a pickup with orange flashing lights on
the roof that stopped to help manage to get them off the motorway (they
were blocking lanes 2 and 3) throw them down the banking of the hard
shoulder, get the motorway running again and **** off before the police
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I somehow doubt if anyone will care enough to check that unless they landed
on a killed a passer by.
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cameras?

DNA?

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However, I doubt they could prove that a clamp had not just sheared off, so
just an accident, hardly worth much police time as long as nobody hurt.
However how many people would have managed to avoid the traffic to remove
them?
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On 13/07/2018 19:24, Andy Burns wrote:
ARW wrote:

it was not very funny.

yeah, a nasty 'obstacle' to come across

manage to get them off the motorway (they were blocking lanes 2 and 3)
throw them down the banking of the hard shoulder, get the motorway
running again and **** off before the police arrived.

cameras?

Almost certainly.

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On 13/07/2018 19:27, Richard wrote:
On 13/07/18 19:20, ARW wrote:
Can anyone guess who fitted them to the roof of my van?

Actually it was not very funny.

I did, with the help of a bloke in a pickup with orange flashing
lights on the roof that stopped to help manage to get them off the
motorway (they were blocking lanes 2 and 3) throw them down the
banking of the hard shoulder, get the motorway running again and ****
off before the police arrived.

Oops.

I don't think that I will be showing the dashcam of that one. You
obviously cannot see the ladders but it does show how quickly the
motorway came to a stop.

You know when you are driving along a motorway and all of a sudden it
comes to a standstill for a few minutes and then you are moving again
and you are thinking "Why did we stop?"

Well today it was because of me.

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On 13/07/2018 20:48, Tim+ wrote:
ARW Wrote in message:
On 13/07/2018 19:27, Richard wrote:
On 13/07/18 19:20, ARW wrote:
Can anyone guess who fitted them to the roof of my van?

Actually it was not very funny.

I did, with the help of a bloke in a pickup with orange flashing
lights on the roof that stopped to help manage to get them off the
motorway (they were blocking lanes 2 and 3) throw them down the
banking of the hard shoulder, get the motorway running again and ****
off before the police arrived.

Oops.

I don't think that I will be showing the dashcam of that one. You
obviously cannot see the ladders but it does show how quickly the
motorway came to a stop.

You know when you are driving along a motorway and all of a sudden it
comes to a standstill for a few minutes and then you are moving again
and you are thinking "Why did we stop?"

Well today it was because of me.


BTDTGTTS.

In our case we laid a caravan on its side across two lanes of the
M6. Didn't half stop the traffic quickly.



Bet you didn't throw it down the banking next to the hard shoulder and
**** off.


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ARW Wrote in message:
On 13/07/2018 19:27, Richard wrote:
On 13/07/18 19:20, ARW wrote:
Can anyone guess who fitted them to the roof of my van?

Actually it was not very funny.

I did, with the help of a bloke in a pickup with orange flashing
lights on the roof that stopped to help manage to get them off the
motorway (they were blocking lanes 2 and 3) throw them down the
banking of the hard shoulder, get the motorway running again and ****
off before the police arrived.

Oops.

I don't think that I will be showing the dashcam of that one. You
obviously cannot see the ladders but it does show how quickly the
motorway came to a stop.

You know when you are driving along a motorway and all of a sudden it
comes to a standstill for a few minutes and then you are moving again
and you are thinking "Why did we stop?"

Well today it was because of me.


BTDTGTTS.

In our case we laid a caravan on its side across two lanes of the
M6. Didn't half stop the traffic quickly.

Tim


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ARW wrote

Can anyone guess who fitted them to the roof of my van?

We certainly know who didnt check them before driving off.

Actually it was not very funny.

I did, with the help of a bloke in a pickup with orange flashing lights on
the roof that stopped to help manage to get them off the motorway (they
were blocking lanes 2 and 3) throw them down the banking of the hard
shoulder, get the motorway running again and **** off before the police
arrived.

On 13/07/2018 20:39, ARW wrote:
On 13/07/2018 19:27, Richard wrote:
On 13/07/18 19:20, ARW wrote:
Can anyone guess who fitted them to the roof of my van?

Actually it was not very funny.

I did, with the help of a bloke in a pickup with orange flashing
lights on the roof that stopped to help manage to get them off the
motorway (they were blocking lanes 2 and 3) throw them down the
banking of the hard shoulder, get the motorway running again and ****
off before the police arrived.

Oops.

I don't think that I will be showing the dashcam of that one. You
obviously cannot see the ladders but it does show how quickly the
motorway came to a stop.

You know when you are driving along a motorway and all of a sudden it
comes to a standstill for a few minutes and then you are moving again
and you are thinking "Why did we stop?"

Well today it was because of me.

30+ years ago we were towing a glider trailer down the M4 (previous
SWMBO driving) when the trailer snaked, jack-knifed and turned the car
through 180 degrees, fortunately without rolling. It took a while for
people to slow down but by the end there were 4 cars written-off, no
major injuries and we made at least one of the dailies. Not an
experience I'd care to repeat.

On Friday, 13 July 2018 19:20:39 UTC+1, ARW wrote:
I did, with the help of a bloke in a pickup with orange flashing lights
on the roof that stopped to help manage to get them off the motorway
(they were blocking lanes 2 and 3) throw them down the banking of the
hard shoulder

And you're going back under cover of darkness to retrieve them ...?

Owain

On 13/07/2018 21:18, wrote:
On Friday, 13 July 2018 19:20:39 UTC+1, ARW wrote:
I did, with the help of a bloke in a pickup with orange flashing lights
on the roof that stopped to help manage to get them off the motorway
(they were blocking lanes 2 and 3) throw them down the banking of the
hard shoulder

And you're going back under cover of darkness to retrieve them ...?

Am I ****.




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ARW Wrote in message:
On 13/07/2018 20:48, Tim+ wrote:
ARW Wrote in message:
On 13/07/2018 19:27, Richard wrote:
On 13/07/18 19:20, ARW wrote:
Can anyone guess who fitted them to the roof of my van?

Actually it was not very funny.

I did, with the help of a bloke in a pickup with orange flashing
lights on the roof that stopped to help manage to get them off the
motorway (they were blocking lanes 2 and 3) throw them down the
banking of the hard shoulder, get the motorway running again and ****
off before the police arrived.

Oops.

I don't think that I will be showing the dashcam of that one. You
obviously cannot see the ladders but it does show how quickly the
motorway came to a stop.

You know when you are driving along a motorway and all of a sudden it
comes to a standstill for a few minutes and then you are moving again
and you are thinking "Why did we stop?"

Well today it was because of me.


BTDTGTTS.

In our case we laid a caravan on its side across two lanes of the
M6. Didn't half stop the traffic quickly.



Bet you didn't throw it down the banking next to the hard shoulder and
**** off.

Nope. Police pulled it upright, I hammered the hitch back into
shape with a lump hammer, taped the windows back in with duct
tape and carried on with a two week holiday.

We were, in many respects, extraordinarily lucky.

Tim


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On 13/07/2018 21:42, ARW wrote:
Am I ****.

You could get done for littering too...

Andy

On 13/07/2018 22:18, Vir Campestris wrote:
On 13/07/2018 21:42, ARW wrote:
Am I ****.

You could get done for littering too...


Safer to leave it where I did than try taking it with me.


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On 13/07/2018 21:39, Tim+ wrote:
ARW Wrote in message:
On 13/07/2018 20:48, Tim+ wrote:
ARW Wrote in message:
On 13/07/2018 19:27, Richard wrote:
On 13/07/18 19:20, ARW wrote:
Can anyone guess who fitted them to the roof of my van?

Actually it was not very funny.

I did, with the help of a bloke in a pickup with orange flashing
lights on the roof that stopped to help manage to get them off the
motorway (they were blocking lanes 2 and 3) throw them down the
banking of the hard shoulder, get the motorway running again and ****
off before the police arrived.

Oops.

I don't think that I will be showing the dashcam of that one. You
obviously cannot see the ladders but it does show how quickly the
motorway came to a stop.

You know when you are driving along a motorway and all of a sudden it
comes to a standstill for a few minutes and then you are moving again
and you are thinking "Why did we stop?"

Well today it was because of me.


BTDTGTTS.

In our case we laid a caravan on its side across two lanes of the
M6. Didn't half stop the traffic quickly.



Bet you didn't throw it down the banking next to the hard shoulder and
**** off.

Nope. Police pulled it upright, I hammered the hitch back into
shape with a lump hammer, taped the windows back in with duct
tape and carried on with a two week holiday.

We were, in many respects, extraordinarily lucky.



You were.


Just checked on my dashcam. It took me 2 min and 45 seconds to stop from
90MPH, reverse back down the hard shoulder (with the pickup that stopped
to help behind me doing the same), move the ladders and rejoin the motorway.

I think that is pretty good going.

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On Friday, July 13, 2018 at 10:29:50 PM UTC+1, ARW wrote:
On 13/07/2018 22:18, Vir Campestris wrote:
On 13/07/2018 21:42, ARW wrote:
Am I ****.

You could get done for littering too...


Safer to leave it where I did than try taking it with me.


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I guess we are all somebodies apprentice.

In message , Brian Gaff
writes
Were they that badly damaged?

:-)

I still use a set I *found* on my way to St. Albans. 30 years back so
hopefully the owner has stopped looking.

Twin 12'0 with nice comfortable flat tread rungs.

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On 13/07/2018 21:39, Tim+ wrote:
ARW Wrote in message:
On 13/07/2018 20:48, Tim+ wrote:
ARW Wrote in message:
On 13/07/2018 19:27, Richard wrote:
On 13/07/18 19:20, ARW wrote:
Can anyone guess who fitted them to the roof of my van?

Actually it was not very funny.

I did, with the help of a bloke in a pickup with orange flashing
lights on the roof that stopped to help manage to get them off the
motorway (they were blocking lanes 2 and 3) throw them down the
banking of the hard shoulder, get the motorway running again and ****
off before the police arrived.

Oops.

I don't think that I will be showing the dashcam of that one. You
obviously cannot see the ladders but it does show how quickly the
motorway came to a stop.

You know when you are driving along a motorway and all of a sudden it
comes to a standstill for a few minutes and then you are moving again
and you are thinking "Why did we stop?"

Well today it was because of me.


BTDTGTTS.

In our case we laid a caravan on its side across two lanes of the
M6. Didn't half stop the traffic quickly.



Bet you didn't throw it down the banking next to the hard shoulder and
**** off.

Nope. Police pulled it upright, I hammered the hitch back into
shape with a lump hammer, taped the windows back in with duct
tape and carried on with a two week holiday.

We were, in many respects, extraordinarily lucky.

And had a well build caravan. What make was it?

I remember stopping to try and help when someone turned a Cabby over on
the motorway in the 70s. They were the ones advertised in magazines with
a Volvo stood on the roof. In this case, the carvan was on its side,
facing the wrong way and a Volvo was hanging from the hitch, with its
back wheels in the air. No obvious damage at all, but I don't know what
the side against the road was like.

SteveW

On 13/07/2018 19:20, ARW wrote:
Can anyone guess who fitted them to the roof of my van?

Driver's responsibility to check.

Bill

Steve Walker Wrote in message:
On 13/07/2018 21:39, Tim+ wrote:
ARW Wrote in message:
On 13/07/2018 20:48, Tim+ wrote:
ARW Wrote in message:
On 13/07/2018 19:27, Richard wrote:
On 13/07/18 19:20, ARW wrote:
Can anyone guess who fitted them to the roof of my van?

Actually it was not very funny.

I did, with the help of a bloke in a pickup with orange flashing
lights on the roof that stopped to help manage to get them off the
motorway (they were blocking lanes 2 and 3) throw them down the
banking of the hard shoulder, get the motorway running again and ****
off before the police arrived.

Oops.

I don't think that I will be showing the dashcam of that one. You
obviously cannot see the ladders but it does show how quickly the
motorway came to a stop.

You know when you are driving along a motorway and all of a sudden it
comes to a standstill for a few minutes and then you are moving again
and you are thinking "Why did we stop?"

Well today it was because of me.


BTDTGTTS.

In our case we laid a caravan on its side across two lanes of the
M6. Didn't half stop the traffic quickly.



Bet you didn't throw it down the banking next to the hard shoulder and
**** off.

Nope. Police pulled it upright, I hammered the hitch back into
shape with a lump hammer, taped the windows back in with duct
tape and carried on with a two week holiday.

We were, in many respects, extraordinarily lucky.

And had a well build caravan. What make was it?


Swift Challenger. I think though that by the time it rolled over,
most of our velocity had scrubbed off and we had very little
forward momentum when it finally tipped.

The van was an insurance write off though.

I remember stopping to try and help when someone turned a Cabby over on
the motorway in the 70s. They were the ones advertised in magazines with
a Volvo stood on the roof. In this case, the carvan was on its side,
facing the wrong way and a Volvo was hanging from the hitch, with its
back wheels in the air. No obvious damage at all, but I don't know what
the side against the road was like.

Ours had gravel rash all along one side.

Tim


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Back when I was young and could see our family used to go all over the
place and I've seen all sorts of potential accidents with stuff attached to
cars and trucks. I think one of the most impressive on a family car was a
roof box that seemed to just explode at speed and all the contents flew up
in the air and went all over the M1 near Watford I think it was. Luckily
most people managed to avoided the tent and assorted bits of debris. I can
only assume it was not made very well and air got inside and blew it to bits
from within.
The really scary ones are big trucks with loads tat are obviously shifting
due to poor securing. Whole palette loads of cardboard boxes for example
just ending up on the road. Luckily for us on the opposite side of the
road.

Oh and please do not mention caravans.
Brian

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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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On 13/07/2018 19:20, ARW wrote:
Can anyone guess who fitted them to the roof of my van?

Driver's responsibility to check.

Bill

On 13/07/2018 19:20, ARW wrote:
Can anyone guess who fitted them to the roof of my van?

You must be wise enough not to rely on an apprentice doing a job properly?

Steve Walker wrote :
They were the ones advertised in magazines with a Volvo stood on the roof.
In this case, the carvan was on its side, facing the wrong way and a Volvo
was hanging from the hitch, with its back wheels in the air. No obvious
damage at all, but I don't know what the side against the road was like.

Almost any caravan which turns over onto its side, will lift the rear
of the tow car off the road. The only exception I have seen, was an
incident I came across on the outskirts of Scarborough, where the large
caravan was laid on its side and detached from the tow car. A quick
glance suggested the tow ball neck had snapped.

On 14/07/2018 12:07, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Steve Walker wrote :
*They were the ones advertised in magazines with a Volvo stood on the
roof. In this case, the carvan was on its side, facing the wrong way
and a Volvo was hanging from the hitch, with its back wheels in the
air. No obvious damage at all, but I don't know what the side against
the road was like.

Almost any caravan which turns over onto its side, will lift the rear of
the tow car off the road.

Not sure that'd have been true of the 60s and 70s cheap end of the
market - the roofs would bend as you tried to scrub them clean at the
beginning of the season!

SteveW

Steve Walker explained on 14/07/2018 :
Almost any caravan which turns over onto its side, will lift the rear of
the tow car off the road.

Not sure that'd have been true of the 60s and 70s cheap end of the market -
the roofs would bend as you tried to scrub them clean at the beginning of the
season!

True, but we are discussing a caravan going on its side. Its chassis
laid on its side is what takes the load and does the lifting of the tow
car.

On 14/07/2018 08:44, Brian Gaff wrote:
Back when I was young and could see our family used to go all over the
place and I've seen all sorts of potential accidents with stuff attached to
cars and trucks. I think one of the most impressive on a family car was a
roof box that seemed to just explode at speed and all the contents flew up
in the air and went all over the M1 near Watford I think it was. Luckily
most people managed to avoided the tent and assorted bits of debris. I can
only assume it was not made very well and air got inside and blew it to bits
from within.
The really scary ones are big trucks with loads tat are obviously shifting
due to poor securing. Whole palette loads of cardboard boxes for example
just ending up on the road. Luckily for us on the opposite side of the
road.

Oh and please do not mention caravans.
Brian

My (very sensible) BIL gave up motorcycling after hitting a suitcase
that came off a roor rack while riding his Triton in the outside lane of
the M1.

On 14/07/2018 22:53, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Steve Walker explained on 14/07/2018 :
Almost any caravan which turns over onto its side, will lift the rear
of the tow car off the road.

Not sure that'd have been true of the 60s and 70s cheap end of the
market - the roofs would bend as you tried to scrub them clean at the
beginning of the season!

True, but we are discussing a caravan going on its side. Its chassis
laid on its side is what takes the load and does the lifting of the tow
car.

The chassis of many caravans of the time did not really have much metal
at the side. All three of the ones that we owned through the 70s and 80s
had two chassis rails 18" or so in, half a dozen inch x inch angle irons
sticking out and a plywood floor. The walls were then just inch square
softwood framing, with fibreglass insulation sandwiched between a very
thin aluminium sheet and a hardboard interior.

SteveW

On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 19:54:21 +0100, ARW wrote:

Who needs DNA with van that had a company m#name and phone number on it?

And number plates.

Coppers wouldn't have turned up anyway. That's what I thought was meant
by "DNA" (did not arrive).



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Cursitor Doom wrote:

Coppers wouldn't have turned up anyway. That's what I thought was meant
by "DNA" (did not arrive).

highways agency traffic wombles probably would, given time ...

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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On 13/07/2018 19:20, ARW wrote:
Can anyone guess who fitted them to the roof of my van?

Driver's responsibility to check.

last week, on holiday, our coach passed by a truck which had lost a shed
load of loose planks from his load. Fortunately they had all fallen onto
the shoulder and not the carriageway.

didn't stop to see how he got his load sorted.

tim

On 17/07/18 09:52, tim... wrote:


"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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On 13/07/2018 19:20, ARW wrote:
Can anyone guess who fitted them to the roof of my van?

Driver's responsibility to check.

last week, on holiday, our coach passed by a truck which had lost a shed
load of loose planks from his load.Â* Fortunately they had all fallen
onto the shoulder and not the carriageway.

didn't stop to see how he got his load sorted.

tim



Once upon a time I was folliwng my sister up a German autobahn when a
picnic table and chairs badly strapped to the motorhome flew off in the
fast lane

I pulled over, held up my hands and waved, and two German truck drivers
stopped, and blocked the autobahn whilst I cleared up the mess on the
road and shovelled the remains into the camper and duly left.

I expected that to be the end of the matter, but I had not accounted for
my sister.

My sister, has a degree in modern langauges, and made her money
translating for NATO and the EU . Her second husband is a German
EU/NATO/ bureaucrat, ex Nazi youth, as were all in his generation from
Silesia. They both utterly Believe in Germany, The Rule of Law and the
EU. My sister also Believes in the Dangers Of Nuclear Power, Climate
Change and What is Being Hidden From Us, is a rampant Vegan,and has
sired a son who is such a snowflake that he now lives in Islington in
his dippy wife's parent's house. Her mother was a producer at the BBC
and her father is a minor academic. They all support Corbyn, the greens,
are hunt saboteurs and Dont Eat Meat. The son recently went on a
meditation course to try and solve his Guilt Problem because his
grandparents were Nazis (who wasn't, in Germany, in 1940?)

So what did the stupid cow do? She reported *herself* for having an
unsafe load, and paid a hefty fine!

No one could read her number plate - she was well up the road.
Mine was a British number plate anyway


Interestingly I quizzed her over Chernobyl at that time. "The government
is covering it all up"

"Would that be the same government that you 100% support in putting up
windmills? Why are they not covering up the truth about climate change,
if they are covering up the truth about Chernobyl?"

It seems a degree in modern languagees does not equip one to deal with
logical contradictions...

I know ALL about snowflakes and champagne socialists...


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