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DerbyBorn[_5_] June 24th 18 04:33 PM

Shed Roof Felt
 
After about 30 years the shed roof needs re-felting - one side has slipped
due to the wind and sun.

Originally it was nailed with galvanised nails. Where it was nailed it has
now torn.

Is there a better way using glue nowadays?

John Rumm June 24th 18 11:58 PM

Shed Roof Felt
 
On 24/06/2018 16:33, DerbyBorn wrote:
After about 30 years the shed roof needs re-felting - one side has slipped
due to the wind and sun.

Originally it was nailed with galvanised nails. Where it was nailed it has
now torn.

Is there a better way using glue nowadays?


There are several options... the traditional three layer felt would use
a nail prep layer (a hessian re-enforced felt) random nailed, and then
underlay and top felt layers hot bonded with tar or glued to that.

My personal preference is using torch on felt (usually a modified /
rubberised bitumen style like SBS felt). Just two layers - a 2mm
underlay, and then a 4mm mineral finish top coat. Sticks like the
proverbial to a blanket, and very quick and easy to apply so long as you
have or can borrow a decent sized blow torch.

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[email protected] June 25th 18 01:30 AM

Shed Roof Felt
 
On Sunday, 24 June 2018 16:33:50 UTC+1, DerbyBorn wrote:

After about 30 years the shed roof needs re-felting - one side has slipped
due to the wind and sun.

Originally it was nailed with galvanised nails. Where it was nailed it has
now torn.

Is there a better way using glue nowadays?


Bitumen paint. It's cheap & works pretty well. Nailing is asking for failure.


NT

stuart noble June 25th 18 07:23 AM

Shed Roof Felt
 
On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 1:30:12 AM UTC+1, wrote:
On Sunday, 24 June 2018 16:33:50 UTC+1, DerbyBorn wrote:

After about 30 years the shed roof needs re-felting - one side has slipped
due to the wind and sun.

Originally it was nailed with galvanised nails. Where it was nailed it has
now torn.

Is there a better way using glue nowadays?


Bitumen paint. It's cheap & works pretty well. Nailing is asking for failure.


NT


Bound to fail in another 30 years

Brian Gaff June 25th 18 09:13 AM

Shed Roof Felt
 
Erm the edges curl if you do that. I guess you coule get some edging of some
sort the stop it.
Brian

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"DerbyBorn" wrote in message
2.222...
After about 30 years the shed roof needs re-felting - one side has slipped
due to the wind and sun.

Originally it was nailed with galvanised nails. Where it was nailed it has
now torn.

Is there a better way using glue nowadays?




TimW June 25th 18 09:20 AM

Shed Roof Felt
 
On 25/06/18 01:30, wrote:
On Sunday, 24 June 2018 16:33:50 UTC+1, DerbyBorn wrote:

After about 30 years the shed roof needs re-felting - one side has slipped
due to the wind and sun.

Originally it was nailed with galvanised nails. Where it was nailed it has
now torn.

Is there a better way using glue nowadays?


Bitumen paint. It's cheap & works pretty well. Nailing is asking for failure.


NT


What do you do with the bitumen paint on an old felted shed roof? Paint
over the felt? Use it to stick joins or seal nails? prime?

TW

Dave Plowman (News) June 25th 18 10:51 AM

Shed Roof Felt
 
In article 2,
DerbyBorn wrote:
After about 30 years the shed roof needs re-felting - one side has
slipped due to the wind and sun.


Originally it was nailed with galvanised nails. Where it was nailed it has
now torn.


Is there a better way using glue nowadays?


Do you expect to live another 30 years? ;-)

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Dave Plowman (News) June 25th 18 10:54 AM

Shed Roof Felt
 
In article ,
John Rumm wrote:
On 24/06/2018 16:33, DerbyBorn wrote:
After about 30 years the shed roof needs re-felting - one side has slipped
due to the wind and sun.

Originally it was nailed with galvanised nails. Where it was nailed it has
now torn.

Is there a better way using glue nowadays?


There are several options... the traditional three layer felt would use
a nail prep layer (a hessian re-enforced felt) random nailed, and then
underlay and top felt layers hot bonded with tar or glued to that.


My personal preference is using torch on felt (usually a modified /
rubberised bitumen style like SBS felt). Just two layers - a 2mm
underlay, and then a 4mm mineral finish top coat. Sticks like the
proverbial to a blanket, and very quick and easy to apply so long as you
have or can borrow a decent sized blow torch.


Would you expect that to last 30 years? Mine was made like that and has
needed a few repairs - apparently were the adhesion had failed.

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[email protected] June 25th 18 11:51 AM

Shed Roof Felt
 
On Monday, 25 June 2018 07:23:07 UTC+1, stuart noble wrote:
On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 1:30:12 AM UTC+1, tabby wrote:
On Sunday, 24 June 2018 16:33:50 UTC+1, DerbyBorn wrote:

After about 30 years the shed roof needs re-felting - one side has slipped
due to the wind and sun.

Originally it was nailed with galvanised nails. Where it was nailed it has
now torn.

Is there a better way using glue nowadays?


Bitumen paint. It's cheap & works pretty well. Nailing is asking for failure.


NT


Bound to fail in another 30 years


every shed felt job fails in 30 years.


NT

[email protected] June 25th 18 11:53 AM

Shed Roof Felt
 
On Monday, 25 June 2018 09:20:39 UTC+1, TimW wrote:
On 25/06/18 01:30, tabbypurr wrote:
On Sunday, 24 June 2018 16:33:50 UTC+1, DerbyBorn wrote:

After about 30 years the shed roof needs re-felting - one side has slipped
due to the wind and sun.

Originally it was nailed with galvanised nails. Where it was nailed it has
now torn.

Is there a better way using glue nowadays?


Bitumen paint. It's cheap & works pretty well. Nailing is asking for failure.


NT


What do you do with the bitumen paint on an old felted shed roof? Paint
over the felt? Use it to stick joins or seal nails? prime?

TW


It's glue. Stick the felt down with it.


NT

John Rumm June 25th 18 11:56 AM

Shed Roof Felt
 
On 25/06/2018 10:54, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
John Rumm wrote:
On 24/06/2018 16:33, DerbyBorn wrote:
After about 30 years the shed roof needs re-felting - one side has slipped
due to the wind and sun.

Originally it was nailed with galvanised nails. Where it was nailed it has
now torn.

Is there a better way using glue nowadays?


There are several options... the traditional three layer felt would use
a nail prep layer (a hessian re-enforced felt) random nailed, and then
underlay and top felt layers hot bonded with tar or glued to that.


My personal preference is using torch on felt (usually a modified /
rubberised bitumen style like SBS felt). Just two layers - a 2mm
underlay, and then a 4mm mineral finish top coat. Sticks like the
proverbial to a blanket, and very quick and easy to apply so long as you
have or can borrow a decent sized blow torch.


Would you expect that to last 30 years? Mine was made like that and has
needed a few repairs - apparently were the adhesion had failed.


I have not had any indication of loss of adhesion with the torch on
stuff I have used so far. So I would expect it to last toward the upper
end of what you can expect from felt in general. However none of the
jobs I have done with it are 30 years old yet, so I can't say for
certain from personal experience.

If looking for maximum life, then two layers of undercoat would probably
help.



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John.

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