I've finally treated myself to 14.4v combi drill from Aldi's.

Now what I'd like is a nice selection of suitably sized screws both
for metal and for wood.

I don't want a 100 of this or 100 of that, just a nice variety. Happy
to buy a specific set if I have a specific project but that's all I
seem to be able to find on the regular websites.

Any pointers please?
--
AnthonyL

AnthonyL pretended :
I don't want a 100 of this or 100 of that, just a nice variety. Happy
to buy a specific set if I have a specific project but that's all I
seem to be able to find on the regular websites.

Any pointers please?

Long ago, on a distant galaxy - I wanted to build up a bit of a stock
of odd sizes of nuts and bolts, so I asked a local stockist who sold by
weight, what happened to all the bits they dropped on the floor. They
said they were not worth sorting back to their bins, so they just threw
them in an oddments bin. I offered to buy some of their oddments, but
they said help yourself to as many as I wanted.

AnthonyL wrote:

what I'd like is a nice selection of suitably sized screws both
for metal and for wood.

Toolsatan used to sell a silverline self-tapper assortment box of 130,
but it seems they now only do much larger assortments of 750

https://www.toolstation.com/shop/Self+Tapping+Pack/p11414

The smaller packs are available elsewhere, e.g.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Silverline-245023/dp/B000LG0TS6

The larger one is only better vfm if you're going to actually use that
many ...

In article ,
AnthonyL wrote:
I've finally treated myself to 14.4v combi drill from Aldi's.

Now what I'd like is a nice selection of suitably sized screws both
for metal and for wood.

I don't want a 100 of this or 100 of that, just a nice variety. Happy
to buy a specific set if I have a specific project but that's all I
seem to be able to find on the regular websites.

Any pointers please?

Since it's not urgent, keep an eye on Lidl and Aldi offers. Assorted
screws in a fairly nice segmented box come up from time to time.

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On 11/04/2018 12:52, AnthonyL wrote:
I've finally treated myself to 14.4v combi drill from Aldi's.

Now what I'd like is a nice selection of suitably sized screws both
for metal and for wood.

I don't want a 100 of this or 100 of that, just a nice variety. Happy
to buy a specific set if I have a specific project but that's all I
seem to be able to find on the regular websites.

Any pointers please?

Toolstation do a variety of screw packs that might be the kind of thing
you had in mind. E.g :

https://www.toolstation.com/shop/p99160
https://www.toolstation.com/shop/p70805
https://www.toolstation.com/shop/p11414

(search for "screw pack" to find others)


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On 11/04/2018 12:52, AnthonyL wrote:
I've finally treated myself to 14.4v combi drill from Aldi's.

Now what I'd like is a nice selection of suitably sized screws both
for metal and for wood.

I don't want a 100 of this or 100 of that, just a nice variety. Happy
to buy a specific set if I have a specific project but that's all I
seem to be able to find on the regular websites.

Any pointers please?


But isn't the drawback that if you need one screw of a certain size you
need several, and the mixed pack doesn't quite have enough, and even if
it does how do you restock it economically?

Decide on about ten sizes that span the range. Go to a specialised
fixings outlet and price up boxes of 100 or 200 of each. You might be
surprised how cheap those places can be. Not eBay though: the quality is
likely to be poor.

http://www.bapp.co.uk/

Bill

On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 11:52:20 GMT
lid (AnthonyL) wrote:

I've finally treated myself to 14.4v combi drill from Aldi's.

Now what I'd like is a nice selection of suitably sized screws both
for metal and for wood.

I don't want a 100 of this or 100 of that, just a nice variety. Happy
to buy a specific set if I have a specific project but that's all I
seem to be able to find on the regular websites.

Any pointers please?

Screwfix do assorted packs of wood screws from around £20 but I usually
just buy the size of screw that I need for a job in 100s or 200s from
Wickes - often there's a free driver bit in the box, which of course
fits really well.
I don't use many self-tappers (more likely to pop-rivet or weld). I
usually have a few in my general box of junk, which I've salvaged from
discarded items when I could be bothered.

On 11/04/2018 15:04, Bill Wright wrote:
On 11/04/2018 12:52, AnthonyL wrote:
I've finally treated myself to 14.4v combi drill from Aldi's.

Now what I'd like is a nice selection of suitably sized screws both
for metal and for wood.

I don't want a 100 of this or 100 of that, just a nice variety.Â* Happy
to buy a specific set if I have a specific project but that's all I
seem to be able to find on the regular websites.

Any pointers please?


But isn't the drawback that if you need one screw of a certain size you
need several, and the mixed pack doesn't quite have enough, and even if
it does how do you restock it economically?

Decide on about ten sizes that span the range. Go to a specialised
fixings outlet and price up boxes of 100 or 200 of each. You might be
surprised how cheap those places can be. Not eBay though: the quality is
likely to be poor.

http://www.bapp.co.uk/



Handy if they happen to be just around the corner from where you live or
work. Which they are in my case.


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On Wednesday, 11 April 2018 12:52:23 UTC+1, AnthonyL wrote:
I've finally treated myself to 14.4v combi drill from Aldi's.

Now what I'd like is a nice selection of suitably sized screws both
for metal and for wood.

I don't want a 100 of this or 100 of that, just a nice variety. Happy
to buy a specific set if I have a specific project but that's all I
seem to be able to find on the regular websites.

Any pointers please?

Toolsatan is cheapest, silver or plasterboard screws


NT

On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 15:04:58 +0100, Bill Wright wrote:

But isn't the drawback that if you need one screw of a certain size you
need several, and the mixed pack doesn't quite have enough, and even if
it does how do you restock it economically?

Decide on about ten sizes that span the range. Go to a specialised
fixings outlet and price up boxes of 100 or 200 of each. You might be
surprised how cheap those places can be. Not eBay though: the quality is
likely to be poor.

I've used these people several times.

https://www.comdir.co.uk/

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On Thursday, April 12, 2018 at 12:05:01 AM UTC+10, Bill Wright wrote:
On 11/04/2018 12:52, AnthonyL wrote:
I've finally treated myself to 14.4v combi drill from Aldi's.

Now what I'd like is a nice selection of suitably sized screws both
for metal and for wood.

I don't want a 100 of this or 100 of that, just a nice variety. Happy
to buy a specific set if I have a specific project but that's all I
seem to be able to find on the regular websites.

Any pointers please?


But isn't the drawback that if you need one screw of a certain size you
need several, and the mixed pack doesn't quite have enough, and even if
it does how do you restock it economically?

Decide on about ten sizes that span the range. Go to a specialised
fixings outlet and price up boxes of 100 or 200 of each. You might be
surprised how cheap those places can be. Not eBay though: the quality is
likely to be poor.

http://www.bapp.co.uk/

Bill

Trust me Murphy's law is often at play. You would need just that screw length you may not find in your pile!!

On 11/04/2018 17:11, ARW wrote:
On 11/04/2018 15:04, Bill Wright wrote:
On 11/04/2018 12:52, AnthonyL wrote:
I've finally treated myself to 14.4v combi drill from Aldi's.

Now what I'd like is a nice selection of suitably sized screws both
for metal and for wood.

I don't want a 100 of this or 100 of that, just a nice variety.Â* Happy
to buy a specific set if I have a specific project but that's all I
seem to be able to find on the regular websites.

Any pointers please?


But isn't the drawback that if you need one screw of a certain size
you need several, and the mixed pack doesn't quite have enough, and
even if it does how do you restock it economically?

Decide on about ten sizes that span the range. Go to a specialised
fixings outlet and price up boxes of 100 or 200 of each. You might be
surprised how cheap those places can be. Not eBay though: the quality
is likely to be poor.

http://www.bapp.co.uk/



Handy if they happen to be just around the corner from where you live or
work. Which they are in my case.


Flashy wheels on that K reg Transit van !

On 11/04/2018 21:26, wrote:
On Wednesday, 11 April 2018 12:52:23 UTC+1, AnthonyL wrote:
I've finally treated myself to 14.4v combi drill from Aldi's.

Now what I'd like is a nice selection of suitably sized screws both
for metal and for wood.

I don't want a 100 of this or 100 of that, just a nice variety. Happy
to buy a specific set if I have a specific project but that's all I
seem to be able to find on the regular websites.

Any pointers please?

Toolsatan is cheapest, silver or plasterboard screws


NT


+1, also as someone else said keep an eye on Aldi/Lidl

I throughly recommend a couple of boxes of self drilling hex head screws. Very sharp, they'll drill through sheet steel and hold fast. Any place that sells roofing will have a wide range.

In article ,
wrote:
I throughly recommend a couple of boxes of self drilling hex head
screws. Very sharp, they'll drill through sheet steel and hold fast. Any
place that sells roofing will have a wide range.

I never seem to be able to find those in the exact size I want. ;-)

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On 12/04/2018 02:43, wrote:

Trust me Murphy's law is often at play. You would need just that screw length you may not find in your pile!!


If you find that a (for instance) 2" No8 CS woodscrew is just a bit too
long and pokes right through the wood, but a 1½" screw isn't long
enough, and you don't have any 1¾", put a 2" screw in far enough for it
just not quite poke through, then take it out and cut the end off with
the Dremmel, then put it back in. Or if appearance doesn't matter put a
2" screw in and Dremmel the end off where it pokes through.

Bill

On Fri, 13 Apr 2018 03:44:20 +0100, Bill Wright wrote:

On 12/04/2018 02:43, wrote:

Trust me Murphy's law is often at play. You would need just that screw length you may not find in your pile!!


If you find that a (for instance) 2" No8 CS woodscrew is just a bit too
long and pokes right through the wood, but a 1½" screw isn't long
enough, and you don't have any 1¾", put a 2" screw in far enough for it
just not quite poke through, then take it out and cut the end off with
the Dremmel, then put it back in. Or if appearance doesn't matter put a
2" screw in and Dremmel the end off where it pokes through.

Bill

Yes, I've done this a lot. Run in the screw then, after shortening it,
back-spin a bit to pick up the same thread.
Another use is where there's limited depth and the taper is a waste of space
as it doesn't hold in a pilot hole. Forming the thread then cutting of the
taper gives full-depth engagement (oo-er missus!).
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whilst religions hold sway

On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 17:11:48 +0100, ARW
wrote:

On 11/04/2018 15:04, Bill Wright wrote:
On 11/04/2018 12:52, AnthonyL wrote:
I've finally treated myself to 14.4v combi drill from Aldi's.

Now what I'd like is a nice selection of suitably sized screws both
for metal and for wood.

I don't want a 100 of this or 100 of that, just a nice variety.Â* Happy
to buy a specific set if I have a specific project but that's all I
seem to be able to find on the regular websites.

Any pointers please?


But isn't the drawback that if you need one screw of a certain size you
need several, and the mixed pack doesn't quite have enough, and even if
it does how do you restock it economically?

Decide on about ten sizes that span the range. Go to a specialised
fixings outlet and price up boxes of 100 or 200 of each. You might be
surprised how cheap those places can be. Not eBay though: the quality is
likely to be poor.

http://www.bapp.co.uk/



Handy if they happen to be just around the corner from where you live or
work. Which they are in my case.


You can pick some up for me then 'cause none of them are really
handy to me

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On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 13:26:12 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
AnthonyL wrote:
I've finally treated myself to 14.4v combi drill from Aldi's.

Now what I'd like is a nice selection of suitably sized screws both
for metal and for wood.

I don't want a 100 of this or 100 of that, just a nice variety. Happy
to buy a specific set if I have a specific project but that's all I
seem to be able to find on the regular websites.

Any pointers please?

Since it's not urgent, keep an eye on Lidl and Aldi offers. Assorted
screws in a fairly nice segmented box come up from time to time.


Sounds a good plan. The box of 700+ from Toolstation would be ideal -
if they were all assorted.

And as several have suggested, I'll probably need to buy a specific
size if a serious project arises.

I have from donkey's years ago a nice selection of wood screws,
slotted.

--
AnthonyL

In article ,
AnthonyL wrote:
I have from donkey's years ago a nice selection of wood screws,
slotted.

Interesting bit of trivia. The BBC (scenery) construction shop changed
from slotted to Pozi. And minor injuries to the construction workers
dropped by some 75%.

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On 13/04/2018 12:45, AnthonyL wrote:
On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 13:26:12 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
AnthonyL wrote:
I've finally treated myself to 14.4v combi drill from Aldi's.

Now what I'd like is a nice selection of suitably sized screws both
for metal and for wood.

I don't want a 100 of this or 100 of that, just a nice variety. Happy
to buy a specific set if I have a specific project but that's all I
seem to be able to find on the regular websites.

Any pointers please?

Since it's not urgent, keep an eye on Lidl and Aldi offers. Assorted
screws in a fairly nice segmented box come up from time to time.


Sounds a good plan. The box of 700+ from Toolstation would be ideal -
if they were all assorted.

And as several have suggested, I'll probably need to buy a specific
size if a serious project arises.

I have from donkey's years ago a nice selection of wood screws,
slotted.

Unless you have a particular need for "period" screws in furniture
restoration, you can save loads of hassle by lobbing them in a bin ;-)





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On Friday, 13 April 2018 17:33:49 UTC+1, John Rumm wrote:
On 13/04/2018 12:45, AnthonyL wrote:
On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 13:26:12 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:
In article ,
AnthonyL wrote:

I've finally treated myself to 14.4v combi drill from Aldi's.

Now what I'd like is a nice selection of suitably sized screws both
for metal and for wood.

I don't want a 100 of this or 100 of that, just a nice variety. Happy
to buy a specific set if I have a specific project but that's all I
seem to be able to find on the regular websites.

Any pointers please?

Since it's not urgent, keep an eye on Lidl and Aldi offers. Assorted
screws in a fairly nice segmented box come up from time to time.


Sounds a good plan. The box of 700+ from Toolstation would be ideal -
if they were all assorted.

And as several have suggested, I'll probably need to buy a specific
size if a serious project arises.

I have from donkey's years ago a nice selection of wood screws,
slotted.

Unless you have a particular need for "period" screws in furniture
restoration, you can save loads of hassle by lobbing them in a bin ;-)

+1. They're a pain and a hazard.


NT

On 13/04/2018 17:34, John Rumm wrote:

I have from donkey's years ago a nice selection of wood screws,
slotted.

Unless you have a particular need for "period" screws in furniture
restoration, you can save loads of hassle by lobbing them in a bin ;-)

I've got all my late dad's, my late uncle's, and my late
brother-in-law's dad's slotted screws, and they were all avid collectors
of fixings. Seems a shame to throw them away, but I'll never use them.
Nails are an even bigger issue. I mean, there's no way a nail goes out
of date or is superseded to the point of being useless, but I really
have a got a lot of them. My dad in particular would buy 200 nails for
every job, without checking his stock.
Bill

In article ,
Huge wrote:
On 2018-04-13, John Rumm wrote:
On 13/04/2018 12:45, AnthonyL wrote:
On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 13:26:12 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
AnthonyL wrote:
I've finally treated myself to 14.4v combi drill from Aldi's.

Now what I'd like is a nice selection of suitably sized screws both
for metal and for wood.

I don't want a 100 of this or 100 of that, just a nice variety.
Happy to buy a specific set if I have a specific project but that's
all I seem to be able to find on the regular websites.

Any pointers please?

Since it's not urgent, keep an eye on Lidl and Aldi offers. Assorted
screws in a fairly nice segmented box come up from time to time.


Sounds a good plan. The box of 700+ from Toolstation would be ideal -
if they were all assorted.

And as several have suggested, I'll probably need to buy a specific
size if a serious project arises.

I have from donkey's years ago a nice selection of wood screws,
slotted.

Unless you have a particular need for "period" screws in furniture
restoration, you can save loads of hassle by lobbing them in a bin ;-)

I fear I must agree. Slotted screws are a PITA.

but - if you arec trying to remove paint from the heads to insert a
screwdriver, slotted screws are much easier to deal with.

--
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In message , Huge
writes
On 2018-04-13, charles wrote:
In article ,
Huge wrote:
On 2018-04-13, John Rumm wrote:

[32 lines snipped]

I fear I must agree. Slotted screws are a PITA.

but - if you arec trying to remove paint from the heads to insert a
screwdriver, slotted screws are much easier to deal with.

Good point.

Something else is that *old* screws were tapered (some?) which I feel
gave a better fixing for wall plugs.

I can't claim to have any parallel threaded fixings fail but the action
seems to cut a thread rather than expand the plug.


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On 13/04/2018 19:51, Huge wrote:
On 2018-04-13, charles wrote:
In article ,
Huge wrote:
On 2018-04-13, John Rumm wrote:

[32 lines snipped]

I fear I must agree. Slotted screws are a PITA.

but - if you arec trying to remove paint from the heads to insert a
screwdriver, slotted screws are much easier to deal with.

Good point.

Tapping a pozi head with a sharp point (i.e. a valid use for some of the
spare nails!) will usually clear them enough. Failing that you can
always dremmel a slot into em if you must!


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On 13/04/2018 20:35, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , Huge
writes
On 2018-04-13, charles wrote:
In article ,
Huge wrote:
On 2018-04-13, John Rumm wrote:

[32 lines snipped]

I fear I must agree. Slotted screws are a PITA.

but - if you arec trying to remove paint from the heads to insert a
screwdriver, slotted screws are much easier to deal with.

Good point.

Something else is that *old* screws were tapered (some?) which I feel
gave a better fixing for wall plugs.

I can't claim to have any parallel threaded fixings fail but the action
seems to cut a thread rather than expand the plug.

IME they tended to make the screw "tighter" - but mostly near the
shallow end of the hole where it does less good.

With modern plug designs and the right size hole, they seem at least as
good in practice as the old style plugs and screws.


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On Fri, 13 Apr 2018 17:34:02 +0100, John Rumm
wrote:

On 13/04/2018 12:45, AnthonyL wrote:
On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 13:26:12 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
AnthonyL wrote:
I've finally treated myself to 14.4v combi drill from Aldi's.

Now what I'd like is a nice selection of suitably sized screws both
for metal and for wood.

I don't want a 100 of this or 100 of that, just a nice variety. Happy
to buy a specific set if I have a specific project but that's all I
seem to be able to find on the regular websites.

Any pointers please?

Since it's not urgent, keep an eye on Lidl and Aldi offers. Assorted
screws in a fairly nice segmented box come up from time to time.


Sounds a good plan. The box of 700+ from Toolstation would be ideal -
if they were all assorted.

And as several have suggested, I'll probably need to buy a specific
size if a serious project arises.

I have from donkey's years ago a nice selection of wood screws,
slotted.

Unless you have a particular need for "period" screws in furniture
restoration, you can save loads of hassle by lobbing them in a bin ;-)



That's exactly why I'm asking on here!


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On Thu, 12 Apr 2018 09:37:14 +0100
newshound wrote:

On 11/04/2018 21:26, wrote:

Toolsatan is cheapest, silver or plasterboard screws


+1, also as someone else said keep an eye on Aldi/Lidl

Lidl have assorted boxes of usefulness at the moment, but no screws (I
bought some hose clips).

On Fri, 13 Apr 2018 03:44:20 +0100
Bill Wright wrote:

Or if appearance doesn't matter put a
2" screw in and Dremmel the end off where it pokes through.

I'd rather use a proper tool. ;-)

In article 20180414151608.67a593f3@Mars,
Rob Morley wrote:
+1, also as someone else said keep an eye on Aldi/Lidl

Lidl have assorted boxes of usefulness at the moment, but no screws (I
bought some hose clips).

Yes - you really do need to keep an eye out for these goodies. Or pay 4
times the price at Halfords, etc. At 3 quid a box I'll be stocking up on
pop rivets and heat shrink.

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On Fri, 13 Apr 2018 10:05:12 -0700 (PDT)
wrote:

On Friday, 13 April 2018 17:33:49 UTC+1, John Rumm wrote:


Unless you have a particular need for "period" screws in furniture
restoration, you can save loads of hassle by lobbing them in a
bin ;-)

+1. They're a pain and a hazard.

I don't see it - just use the right size driver for the slot, and
drill an appropriate pilot hole.

On 13/04/2018 20:35, Tim Lamb wrote:

Something else is that *old* screws were tapered (some?) which I feel
gave a better fixing for wall plugs.

I can't claim to have any parallel threaded fixings fail but the action
seems to cut a thread rather than expand the plug.


Parallel thread screws are better for wall plugs. But you have to get
the right size screw and plug, and drill the right size hole.

Bill

On Saturday, 14 April 2018 16:27:55 UTC+1, Rob Morley wrote:
On Fri, 13 Apr 2018 10:05:12 -0700 (PDT)
tabbypurr wrote:
On Friday, 13 April 2018 17:33:49 UTC+1, John Rumm wrote:


Unless you have a particular need for "period" screws in furniture
restoration, you can save loads of hassle by lobbing them in a
bin ;-)

+1. They're a pain and a hazard.

I don't see it - just use the right size driver for the slot, and
drill an appropriate pilot hole.

A lot of us do


NT

lid (AnthonyL) Wrote in message:
On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 13:26:12 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
AnthonyL wrote:
I've finally treated myself to 14.4v combi drill from Aldi's.

Now what I'd like is a nice selection of suitably sized screws both
for metal and for wood.

I don't want a 100 of this or 100 of that, just a nice variety. Happy
to buy a specific set if I have a specific project but that's all I
seem to be able to find on the regular websites.

Any pointers please?

Since it's not urgent, keep an eye on Lidl and Aldi offers. Assorted
screws in a fairly nice segmented box come up from time to time.


Sounds a good plan. The box of 700+ from Toolstation would be ideal -
if they were all assorted.

Look at the picture again...

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