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ha ha glad I never bought a diesel car....
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"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
... ha ha glad I never bought a diesel car.... Glad we've already got diesel cars, one of which will last a good long time (it's 15 reg) and the other should last a while yet (it's 08 reg) before needing to be replaced, and I may replace the 08 car with electric since it is used for short journeys which are within the current pitifully small range of electrics. I bought diesel because it's cheaper to run (the improved mpg outweighs the slightly higher cost per litre of fuel) and because I prefer driving a diesel. |
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On 22/11/2017 19:21, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 18:39:18 -0000, "NY" wrote: "Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message ... ha ha glad I never bought a diesel car.... Glad we've already got diesel cars, one of which will last a good long time (it's 15 reg) and the other should last a while yet (it's 08 reg) before needing to be replaced, and I may replace the 08 car with electric since it is used for short journeys which are within the current pitifully small range of electrics. I bought diesel because it's cheaper to run (the improved mpg outweighs the slightly higher cost per litre of fuel) and because I prefer driving a diesel. Much the same here. We have a small diesel, 1.4l, now thirteen years old (Dec 05 reg), so no filters or fancy electronics controlling the exhaust. Still going well (just passed it's MOT with nothing requiring attention). I see no need to replace it yet, and when we do, it'll probably be a small electric as we only do short journeys. By then, the battery development should have improved a bit and I quite fancy the technology; nothing to do with global warming or reducing CO2. My 06 Focus developed too many expensive problems last year and it was time to change it. I went for a petrol this time, not because I expect significantly higher duty on diesel, increased car tax or the like, but because I can see court decisions about pollution making many cities slap huge, per day charges on older diesels as London has already. SteveW |
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On 22/11/17 23:22, Steve Walker wrote:
I can see court decisions about pollution making many cities slap huge, per day charges on older diesels as London has already. The aim is to make it impractical to own private cars in London, so when they pull the plug, no one can get out and everyone dies. -- New Socialism consists essentially in being seen to have your heart in the right place whilst your head is in the clouds and your hand is in someone else's pocket. |
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On 23/11/2017 17:41, Terry Casey wrote:
A few months later I was talking to another retired man who had fallen into the diesel trap and paying heavily for the mistake. Don't these people read the manual so they know what the warning you get about the filter means? You just need a quick run at about 50 when the *warning light* comes on. |
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On 23/11/2017 19:24, dennis@home wrote:
On 23/11/2017 17:41, Terry Casey wrote: A few months later I was talking to another retired man who had fallen into the diesel trap and paying heavily for the mistake. Don't these people read the manual so they know what the warning you get about the filter means? You just need a quick run at about 50 when the *warning light* comes on. I wouldn't want to have a burn-up just to please the car's poor design. Lots of cars are only used for short distances. -- Max Demian |
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"Chris Hogg" wrote in message
... On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 17:41:25 -0000, Terry Casey wrote: I saw a report somewhere - might even have been here - from someone who did a lot of short trips which had destroyed the filter because the exhaust frequently never gets hot enough for long enough to ensure that all the water vapour is exhausted. Otherwise any vapour remaining condenses back to water at the end of the run which destroys the filter - and replacements are not cheap!) I went instead for a petrol Focus which I kept for five years with no problems. A few months later I was talking to another retired man who had fallen into the diesel trap and paying heavily for the mistake. Hmm... I've not heard filters being destroyed for that reason. I always understood that on short journeys the filter never got hot enough to burn off the carbon it collected, so eventually became choked. The actual filter medium is ceramic, so I wouldn't expect it to be affected by moisture. Perhaps other components in there don't like being wet. OTOH the early filters were based on the ceramic cordierite, while I believe that some these days are made of silicon carbide, which may behave differently. Yes I had heard that the main problem with short runs is the build-up of soot (carbon) which never gets burned off. When I first got a DPF error warning on my car, the garage advised me to do a long motorway run or else a shorter journey in third gear (to keep the engine revs high and to heat up the DPF more quickly) to see if that burned off the soot. Sadly it didn't, hence the £1000 bill for new DPF and cat, though I consoled myself that this was after some 150,000 miles so DPF and cat had had a good life. Although I did quite a few short runs, I also used the car at weekends for long (50-100 mile) journeys on country lanes at 40-60, so the DPF would have been warmed up on those journeys. In between it got a bit of a blast if I happened to go on the dual carriageway near me: it certainly didn't spend its time pootling at 30 or doing stop-start in traffic. My car also has a "plastic pouch" filled with a "liquid for cleaning the exhaust" (as explained to me by the garage) - probably similar to AdBlue as used in buses and coaches. About a year before the DPF error, this pouch split, spilling its contents, which caused the car to enter limp-home mode. Sod's Law was in operation that day because it was as I was accelerating hard to pull out of a junction with poor visibility: to find the car lose most of its power when an HGV is bearing down on you is not an experience I want to repeat :-( |
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"dennis@home" wrote in message
web.com... On 23/11/2017 17:41, Terry Casey wrote: A few months later I was talking to another retired man who had fallen into the diesel trap and paying heavily for the mistake. Don't these people read the manual so they know what the warning you get about the filter means? You just need a quick run at about 50 when the *warning light* comes on. Didn't work for me: it was the first thing I tried when the light came on. The verdict of the garage was (I'm paraphrasing!) "if that doesn't turn the light off, the DPF is buggered". However 150,000 miles on a DPF isn't *too* bad. At least I haven't had to shell out for other expensive things like new clutch and new "fan belt" (times 2 *) on this car, unlike the previous one. I've never had a car before that is still on its original clutch after 170,000 miles, so Peugeot are doing something right :-) (*) On my last car, the fan belt failed just as I was about to come off a motorway, so I was able to limp to a petrol station to wait for the RAC man, tugging the steering wheel to compensate for lack of power steering. My local garage replaced that belt (at a hefty cost) and a few thousand miles later that belt failed. This time I took the car to a main dealer and they found that one of the pulleys had a warped flange which could well have caused the first failure and almost certainly caused the second. But my local garage wouldn't pay up for failing to detect the *reason* for the first belt's failure and the fact that it would cause the second belt to fail, so I stopped using that garage or recommending them to people. *******s! |
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On 23/11/2017 19:40, Max Demian wrote:
On 23/11/2017 19:24, dennis@home wrote: On 23/11/2017 17:41, Terry Casey wrote: A few months later I was talking to another retired man who had fallen into the diesel trap and paying heavily for the mistake. Don't these people read the manual so they know what the warning you get about the filter means? You just need a quick run at about 50 when the *warning light* comes on. I wouldn't want to have a burn-up just to please the car's poor design. Lots of cars are only used for short distances. So don't buy a diesel if you can't follow the instructions. |
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"dennis@home" writes On 23/11/2017 17:41, Terry Casey wrote: A few months later I was talking to another retired man who had fallen into the diesel trap and paying heavily for the mistake. Don't these people read the manual so they know what the warning you get about the filter means? You just need a quick run at about 50 when the *warning light* comes on. Huh! I've yet to find one on our 1600cc Fiesta. The only indication something is going on is a marked drop off in acceleration. This usually happens to me as I get the motorway driving. No dashboard indication of any sort. The engine stays in this mode until the ignition is cycled. Can be done on the move:-) -- Tim Lamb |
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On 23/11/2017 21:02, dennis@home wrote:
On 23/11/2017 19:40, Max Demian wrote: On 23/11/2017 19:24, dennis@home wrote: On 23/11/2017 17:41, Terry Casey wrote: A few months later I was talking to another retired man who had fallen into the diesel trap and paying heavily for the mistake. Don't these people read the manual so they know what the warning you get about the filter means? You just need a quick run at about 50 when the *warning light* comes on. I wouldn't want to have a burn-up just to please the car's poor design. Lots of cars are only used for short distances. So don't buy a diesel if you can't follow the instructions. I could but I don't see why I should to cope with this retrograde step. They'll be bringing back crash gearboxes next. -- Max Demian |
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"Max Demian" wrote in message news On 23/11/2017 21:02, dennis@home wrote: On 23/11/2017 19:40, Max Demian wrote: On 23/11/2017 19:24, dennis@home wrote: On 23/11/2017 17:41, Terry Casey wrote: A few months later I was talking to another retired man who had fallen into the diesel trap and paying heavily for the mistake. Don't these people read the manual so they know what the warning you get about the filter means? You just need a quick run at about 50 when the *warning light* comes on. I wouldn't want to have a burn-up just to please the car's poor design. Lots of cars are only used for short distances. So don't buy a diesel if you can't follow the instructions. I could but I don't see why I should to cope with this retrograde step. They'll be bringing back crash gearboxes next. naw... just no syncro on first ..... |
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On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 07:42:22 +0000, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
"Max Demian" wrote in message news On 23/11/2017 21:02, dennis@home wrote: On 23/11/2017 19:40, Max Demian wrote: On 23/11/2017 19:24, dennis@home wrote: On 23/11/2017 17:41, Terry Casey wrote: A few months later I was talking to another retired man who had fallen into the diesel trap and paying heavily for the mistake. Don't these people read the manual so they know what the warning you get about the filter means? You just need a quick run at about 50 when the *warning light* comes on. I wouldn't want to have a burn-up just to please the car's poor design. Lots of cars are only used for short distances. So don't buy a diesel if you can't follow the instructions. I could but I don't see why I should to cope with this retrograde step. They'll be bringing back crash gearboxes next. naw... just no syncro on first ..... Luxury. My second car no no synchro on first or second. By design. -- My posts are my copyright and if @diy_forums or Home Owners' Hub wish to copy them they can pay me £1 a message. Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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"Bob Eager" wrote in message ... On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 07:42:22 +0000, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: "Max Demian" wrote in message news On 23/11/2017 21:02, dennis@home wrote: On 23/11/2017 19:40, Max Demian wrote: On 23/11/2017 19:24, dennis@home wrote: On 23/11/2017 17:41, Terry Casey wrote: A few months later I was talking to another retired man who had fallen into the diesel trap and paying heavily for the mistake. Don't these people read the manual so they know what the warning you get about the filter means? You just need a quick run at about 50 when the *warning light* comes on. I wouldn't want to have a burn-up just to please the car's poor design. Lots of cars are only used for short distances. So don't buy a diesel if you can't follow the instructions. I could but I don't see why I should to cope with this retrograde step. They'll be bringing back crash gearboxes next. naw... just no syncro on first ..... Luxury. My second car no no synchro on first or second. By design. It was....a '63 mini 850 ..........magic want gear stick ......push button starter......slide windows........ .......with all the fantastic features of the modern car I wish I had my old mini back ....... |
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On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 09:37:24 +0000, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
"Bob Eager" wrote in message ... On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 07:42:22 +0000, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: "Max Demian" wrote in message news On 23/11/2017 21:02, dennis@home wrote: On 23/11/2017 19:40, Max Demian wrote: On 23/11/2017 19:24, dennis@home wrote: On 23/11/2017 17:41, Terry Casey wrote: A few months later I was talking to another retired man who had fallen into the diesel trap and paying heavily for the mistake. Don't these people read the manual so they know what the warning you get about the filter means? You just need a quick run at about 50 when the *warning light* comes on. I wouldn't want to have a burn-up just to please the car's poor design. Lots of cars are only used for short distances. So don't buy a diesel if you can't follow the instructions. I could but I don't see why I should to cope with this retrograde step. They'll be bringing back crash gearboxes next. naw... just no syncro on first ..... Luxury. My second car no no synchro on first or second. By design. It was....a '63 mini 850 ..........magic want gear stick ......push button starter......slide windows........ .......with all the fantastic features of the modern car I wish I had my old mini back ....... In my case it was a 1952 Series I SWB Land Rover. -- My posts are my copyright and if @diy_forums or Home Owners' Hub wish to copy them they can pay me £1 a message. Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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