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ARW[_2_] November 19th 17 06:44 PM

Google is too clever
 
All I said to my phone was "Navigate to ******** swimming pool.

It then tells me that I last visited the place twelve months ago.

Not bad going for a place that I only visit once a year to do an EICR.



--
Adam

Andrew[_22_] November 19th 17 06:48 PM

Google is too clever
 
On 19/11/2017 18:44, ARW wrote:
All I said to my phone was "Navigate to ******** swimming pool.

It then tells me that I last visited the place twelve months ago.

Not bad going for a place that I only visit once a year to do an EICR.




Have you asked it how to fix your DALI problem ?.

Jim November 19th 17 07:01 PM

Google is too clever
 
ARW Wrote in message:
All I said to my phone was "Navigate to ******** swimming pool.

It then tells me that I last visited the place twelve months ago.

Not bad going for a place that I only visit once a year to do an EICR.




Your attorney advises - Time to switch location off....
--
Jim K


----Android NewsGroup Reader----
http://usenet.sinaapp.com/

Rod Speed November 19th 17 07:04 PM

Google is too clever
 
ARW wrote

All I said to my phone was "Navigate to ******** swimming pool.


It then tells me that I last visited the place twelve months ago.


Not bad going for a place that I only visit once a year to do an EICR.


Mine used to leave that for dead. 'hey siri, go to Waugh St'

Stupid cow kept giving me directions to Wall St NY
and didnt even notice that my car isnt amphibious.

Does better now, but that one is still a problem even when
I include the town name. Least it now gives me directions
to Walla Lane in my town, tho thats nowhere near Waugh St.


[email protected] November 19th 17 07:13 PM

Google is too clever
 
On Sunday, November 19, 2017 at 6:44:15 PM UTC, ARW wrote:
All I said to my phone was "Navigate to ******** swimming pool.

It then tells me that I last visited the place twelve months ago.

Not bad going for a place that I only visit once a year to do an EICR.



--
Adam


That'd be why your talking scales say 'get off' when you try to weigh yourself then :P

Philip

ARW[_2_] November 19th 17 07:16 PM

Google is too clever
 
On 19/11/2017 18:48, Andrew wrote:
On 19/11/2017 18:44, ARW wrote:
All I said to my phone was "Navigate to ******** swimming pool.

It then tells me that I last visited the place twelve months ago.

Not bad going for a place that I only visit once a year to do an EICR.




Have you asked it how to fix your DALI problem ?.


Indeed I have.

--
Adam

ARW[_2_] November 19th 17 07:27 PM

Google is too clever
 
On 19/11/2017 18:52, jim wrote:
ARW Wrote in message:
All I said to my phone was "Navigate to ******** swimming pool.

It then tells me that I last visited the place twelve months ago.

Not bad going for a place that I only visit once a year to do an EICR.




Your attorney advises - Time to switch location off....


A EICR is perfectly legal, and my attorney says just leave the phone at
home if you are doing something illegal or doing something will that
land you into hot water.

Something my brother needs to learn - the daft **** posted a selfie on
facebook of himself and his mistress whilst on a weekend away.

--
Adam

[email protected] November 19th 17 07:30 PM

Google is too clever
 
On Sunday, 19 November 2017 19:10:24 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
ARW wrote

All I said to my phone was "Navigate to ******** swimming pool.


It then tells me that I last visited the place twelve months ago.


Not bad going for a place that I only visit once a year to do an EICR.


Mine used to leave that for dead. 'hey siri, go to Waugh St'

Stupid cow kept giving me directions to Wall St NY
and didnt even notice that my car isnt amphibious.

Does better now, but that one is still a problem even when
I include the town name. Least it now gives me directions
to Walla Lane in my town, tho thats nowhere near Waugh St.


It had read your usenet posts and was trying to darwinate you

Max Demian November 19th 17 07:50 PM

Google is too clever
 
On 19/11/2017 19:13, wrote:
On Sunday, November 19, 2017 at 6:44:15 PM UTC, ARW wrote:
All I said to my phone was "Navigate to ******** swimming pool.

It then tells me that I last visited the place twelve months ago.

Not bad going for a place that I only visit once a year to do an EICR.


That'd be why your talking scales say 'get off' when you try to weigh yourself then :P


"One at a time, please."

--
Max Demian

Rod Speed November 19th 17 08:00 PM

Google is too clever
 


wrote in message
...
On Sunday, 19 November 2017 19:10:24 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
ARW wrote

All I said to my phone was "Navigate to ******** swimming pool.


It then tells me that I last visited the place twelve months ago.


Not bad going for a place that I only visit once a year to do an EICR.


Mine used to leave that for dead. 'hey siri, go to Waugh St'

Stupid cow kept giving me directions to Wall St NY
and didnt even notice that my car isnt amphibious.

Does better now, but that one is still a problem even when
I include the town name. Least it now gives me directions
to Walla Lane in my town, tho thats nowhere near Waugh St.


It had read your usenet posts and was trying to darwinate you


Doesnt explain why the most recent is in the same town by road, stupid.


Iggy November 19th 17 08:44 PM

Google is too clever
 
replying to ARW, Iggy wrote:
Clever snitch designed by your traitor government and still everyone praises
and promotes the treason. You wouldn't trust your customer list and a whole
lot worse to anyone and don't even like people in the public eavesdropping on
your conversations, studies have proven.

--
for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/uk-diy...r-1251151-.htm



Mr Pounder Esquire November 19th 17 08:59 PM

Google is too clever
 
Rod Speed wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Sunday, 19 November 2017 19:10:24 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
ARW wrote

All I said to my phone was "Navigate to ******** swimming pool.

It then tells me that I last visited the place twelve months ago.

Not bad going for a place that I only visit once a year to do an
EICR.

Mine used to leave that for dead. 'hey siri, go to Waugh St'

Stupid cow kept giving me directions to Wall St NY
and didn't even notice that my car isnt amphibious.

Does better now, but that one is still a problem even when
I include the town name. Least it now gives me directions
to Walla Lane in my town, tho that's nowhere near Waugh St.


It had read your usenet posts and was trying to darwinate you


Doesn't explain why the most recent is in the same town by road,
stupid.


Socks the stupid Australian **** uses.

""
"John James"
"Simon Brown"
"Jacko"
"Simon263"
"John Chance"
"Ratsack"
"Hank"
"kshy"
"JHY"
"Blano"
"Santo Brown"
"hqhy"
"Jim Thomas"
"Sam Thatch"
"Hanny Z"
"78lp"
"John Jackson"
"Ranger"
"jack"
"Mike Lander"
"879"
"James Green"
"kipg"




Vir Campestris November 19th 17 09:25 PM

Google is too clever
 
On 19/11/2017 20:44, Iggy wrote:
replying to ARW, Iggy wrote:
Clever snitch designed by your traitor government and still everyone
praises
and promotes the treason. You wouldn't trust your customer list and a whole
lot worse to anyone and don't even like people in the public
eavesdropping on
your conversations, studies have proven.

Iggy, this is _UK_ D-I-Y. Google is American.

Andy

Tim Watts[_3_] November 19th 17 09:29 PM

Google is too clever
 
On 19/11/17 18:44, ARW wrote:
All I said to my phone was "Navigate to ******** swimming pool.

It then tells me that I last visited the place twelve months ago.

Not bad going for a place that I only visit once a year to do an EICR.




Go to:

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/timeline?authuser=0&pb

and be awed and/or worried....



Rod Speed November 19th 17 10:05 PM

Google is too clever
 


"Tim Watts" wrote in message
...
On 19/11/17 18:44, ARW wrote:
All I said to my phone was "Navigate to ******** swimming pool.

It then tells me that I last visited the place twelve months ago.

Not bad going for a place that I only visit once a year to do an EICR.




Go to:

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/timeline?authuser=0&pb

and be awed and/or worried....


Nothing in mine and I use it every week.


Tjoepstil November 20th 17 02:12 AM

Google is too clever
 
On 19/11/17 21:29, Tim Watts wrote:
On 19/11/17 18:44, ARW wrote:
All I said to my phone was "Navigate to ******** swimming pool.

It then tells me that I last visited the place twelve months ago.

Not bad going for a place that I only visit once a year to do an EICR.




Go to:

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/timeline?authuser=0&pb

and be awed and/or worried....


at a login screen for an account I dont have?


Iggy November 20th 17 03:44 AM

Google is too clever
 
replying to Vir Campestris, Iggy wrote:
It doesn't matter and in many cases things are tried out first in the UK and
EU before established in the US. If it's a known country its in bed with the
rest, period.

--
for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/uk-diy...r-1251151-.htm



Tim Watts[_3_] November 20th 17 07:38 AM

Google is too clever
 
On 20/11/17 02:12, Tjoepstil wrote:
On 19/11/17 21:29, Tim Watts wrote:
On 19/11/17 18:44, ARW wrote:
All I said to my phone was "Navigate to ******** swimming pool.

It then tells me that I last visited the place twelve months ago.

Not bad going for a place that I only visit once a year to do an EICR.




Go to:

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/timeline?authuser=0&pb

and be awed and/or worried....


at a login screen for an account I dont have?


Well, if you did, it would tell you everywhere you've ever been with an
Android phone...

Brian Gaff November 20th 17 08:30 AM

Google is too clever
 
The problem is when it comes to important info most of these sites are
clueless, as they only know the info they have been told, often by the venue
and the history of you.
So if nobody has put on the database that half the visitors the d before
went down with food poisoning or had issues with over chlorination you would
not know about it. Brian

--
----- -
This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from...
The Sofa of Brian Gaff...

Blind user, so no pictures please!
"ARW" wrote in message
...
All I said to my phone was "Navigate to ******** swimming pool.

It then tells me that I last visited the place twelve months ago.

Not bad going for a place that I only visit once a year to do an EICR.



--
Adam




Andy Burns[_13_] November 20th 17 09:35 AM

Google is too clever
 
Jethro_uk wrote:

If you sign into your Google account it will show you every journey you[r
phone] have made even if you don't use Google maps (because it's ****).

The temptation to spell "**** OFF" (a la "Sherlock") one quiet Sunday is
hard to resist.


What would Clarkson do?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/42032629

Tim Watts[_3_] November 20th 17 10:39 AM

Google is too clever
 
On 20/11/17 10:02, Huge wrote:

Wrong. It *may* tell you that.



It will tell you that pretty much by default.

Until you learn how to turn it off.

Harry Bloomfield[_3_] November 20th 17 01:28 PM

Google is too clever
 
Tim Watts formulated the question :
It will tell you that pretty much by default.

Until you learn how to turn it off.


I turned it off on all of my systems, except one - the laptop I keep in
the tourer caravan. That was logged as used in three places this past
year.

The Natural Philosopher[_2_] November 20th 17 03:59 PM

Google is too clever
 
On 20/11/17 10:02, Huge wrote:
On 2017-11-20, Tim Watts wrote:
On 20/11/17 02:12, Tjoepstil wrote:
On 19/11/17 21:29, Tim Watts wrote:
On 19/11/17 18:44, ARW wrote:
All I said to my phone was "Navigate to ******** swimming pool.

It then tells me that I last visited the place twelve months ago.

Not bad going for a place that I only visit once a year to do an EICR.




Go to:

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/timeline?authuser=0&pb

and be awed and/or worried....


at a login screen for an account I dont have?


Well, if you did, it would tell you everywhere you've ever been with an
Android phone...


Wrong. It *may* tell you that.


It would be interesting, because I have never been anywhere with an
android phone, nor ever knowingly touched one inappropiately.



--
€œBut what a weak barrier is truth when it stands in the way of an
hypothesis!€

Mary Wollstonecraft

Tim Lamb[_2_] November 20th 17 04:16 PM

Google is too clever
 
In message , Tim Watts
writes
On 19/11/17 18:44, ARW wrote:
All I said to my phone was "Navigate to ******** swimming pool.
It then tells me that I last visited the place twelve months ago.
Not bad going for a place that I only visit once a year to do an
EICR.


Go to:

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/timeline?authuser=0&pb

and be awed and/or worried....


I don't have a Google account....



--
Tim Lamb

ARW[_2_] November 20th 17 07:27 PM

Google is too clever
 
On 19/11/2017 21:29, Tim Watts wrote:
On 19/11/17 18:44, ARW wrote:
All I said to my phone was "Navigate to ******** swimming pool.

It then tells me that I last visited the place twelve months ago.

Not bad going for a place that I only visit once a year to do an EICR.




Go to:

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/timeline?authuser=0&pb

and be awed and/or worried....



I am both in awe and worried. Some of those places I have never been to.

Now these are not always places I have put into a Google search entry. I
know that I once stopped and had a **** in a pub car park on my way to
Filey (she was driving so I drank six cans of beer on the way there).
That's showing as somewhere I have been.

But the last time I went near Carlisle? Probably 1991.

And no records whatsoever of me going to London. Leicester, Nottingham,
Durham etc.

--
Adam

Andy Burns[_13_] November 20th 17 07:32 PM

Google is too clever
 
ARW wrote:

I am both in awe and worried. Some of those places I have never been to.


Have you ever had a phone or tablet (which logged into the same google
account) stolen/sold/lent without removing the account details?

Andy Burns[_13_] November 20th 17 07:36 PM

Google is too clever
 
Andy Burns wrote:

Have you ever had a phone or tablet (which logged into the same google
account) stolen/sold/lent without removing the account details?


If so, you can login to the same account and find/ring/nuke the device
from here

https://google.com/android/find



ARW[_2_] November 20th 17 07:48 PM

Google is too clever
 
On 20/11/2017 19:32, Andy Burns wrote:
ARW wrote:

I am both in awe and worried. Some of those places I have never been to.


Have you ever had a phone or tablet (which logged into the same google
account) stolen/sold/lent without removing the account details?


Never. I am on my second android (got the first 2 years ago and I still
have it)

--
Adam

ARW[_2_] November 20th 17 08:13 PM

Google is too clever
 
On 19/11/2017 21:29, Tim Watts wrote:
On 19/11/17 18:44, ARW wrote:
All I said to my phone was "Navigate to ******** swimming pool.

It then tells me that I last visited the place twelve months ago.

Not bad going for a place that I only visit once a year to do an EICR.




Go to:

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/timeline?authuser=0&pb

and be awed and/or worried....



Hells bells.

It knows that when I was working at Whitby I called at the Grapes for a
pint on my way to Filey, picked up the gf and called at Tesco on the way
back from the Grapes.

Mind you I never went to Hull on the train the next day.

--
Adam

Bob Martin November 21st 17 08:26 AM

Google is too clever
 
in 1644456 20171120 100250 Huge wrote:
On 2017-11-20, Tim Watts wrote:
On 20/11/17 02:12, Tjoepstil wrote:
On 19/11/17 21:29, Tim Watts wrote:
On 19/11/17 18:44, ARW wrote:
All I said to my phone was "Navigate to ******** swimming pool.

It then tells me that I last visited the place twelve months ago.

Not bad going for a place that I only visit once a year to do an EICR.




Go to:

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/timeline?authuser=0&pb

and be awed and/or worried....


at a login screen for an account I dont have?


Well, if you did, it would tell you everywhere you've ever been with an
Android phone...


Wrong. It *may* tell you that.


My GM Timeline is always empty, probably because I keep mobile data turned off
on my Nexus 5X Oreo.

Tim Watts[_3_] November 21st 17 12:30 PM

Google is too clever
 
On 20/11/17 19:27, ARW wrote:
On 19/11/2017 21:29, Tim Watts wrote:
On 19/11/17 18:44, ARW wrote:
All I said to my phone was "Navigate to ******** swimming pool.

It then tells me that I last visited the place twelve months ago.

Not bad going for a place that I only visit once a year to do an EICR.




Go to:

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/timeline?authuser=0&pb

and be awed and/or worried....



I am both in awe and worried. Some of those places I have never been to.

Now these are not always places I have put into a Google search entry.


Those places will be somewhere picked up by a GPS enabled Android device
that's logged in as you and enabled for location history.

I
know that I once stopped and had a **** in a pub car park on my way to
Filey (she was driving so I drank six cans of beer on the way there).
That's showing as somewhere I have been.


Sounds right.

But the last time I went near Carlisle? Probably 1991.




And no records whatsoever of me going to London. Leicester, Nottingham,
Durham etc.


Curious...

ARW[_2_] November 21st 17 05:48 PM

Google is too clever
 
On 21/11/2017 12:30, Tim Watts wrote:
On 20/11/17 19:27, ARW wrote:
On 19/11/2017 21:29, Tim Watts wrote:
On 19/11/17 18:44, ARW wrote:
All I said to my phone was "Navigate to ******** swimming pool.

It then tells me that I last visited the place twelve months ago.

Not bad going for a place that I only visit once a year to do an EICR.




Go to:

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/timeline?authuser=0&pb

and be awed and/or worried....



I am both in awe and worried. Some of those places I have never been to.

Now these are not always places I have put into a Google search entry.


Those places will be somewhere picked up by a GPS enabled Android device
that's logged in as you and enabled for location history.

I know that I once stopped and had a **** in a pub car park on my way
to Filey (she was driving so I drank six cans of beer on the way
there). That's showing as somewhere I have been.


Sounds right.

But the last time I went near Carlisle? Probably 1991.




And no records whatsoever of me going to London. Leicester,
Nottingham, Durham etc.


Curious...


I have an answer to that one. Google has only been tracking me since
20th June 2016. The other trips were before that date.

I'll have to have a look and see what date "I went" to Carlisle and how
I got there.

--
Adam

Chris B[_2_] November 21st 17 05:58 PM

Google is too clever
 
On 21/11/2017 12:30, Tim Watts wrote:
On 20/11/17 19:27, ARW wrote:



I am both in awe and worried. Some of those places I have never been to.

Now these are not always places I have put into a Google search entry.


Those places will be somewhere picked up by a GPS enabled Android device
that's logged in as you and enabled for location history.


I have been watching my location history for some time. A couple of
years ago I spent a day at the Great Dorset steam fair. As far as my
location history was concerned I had spent most of the day in a field in
Dorset with a couple of quick trips during the day to Liverpool.

I can only assume that the portable mobile mast being used at the GDSF
had previously been used in Liverpool and was reporting a false location
- to Google at least if not to the telcos.

Other than that it has been pretty good.

If using location history on a PC the settings cog allows you to show
raw data which comes complete with an error ring


--
Chris B (News)

ARW[_2_] November 21st 17 06:08 PM

Google is too clever
 
On 21/11/2017 17:58, Chris B wrote:
On 21/11/2017 12:30, Tim Watts wrote:
On 20/11/17 19:27, ARW wrote:



I am both in awe and worried. Some of those places I have never been to.

Now these are not always places I have put into a Google search entry.


Those places will be somewhere picked up by a GPS enabled Android
device that's logged in as you and enabled for location history.


I have been watching my location history for some time.Â* A couple of
years ago I spent a day at the Great Dorset steam fair.Â* As far as my
location history was concerned I had spent most of the day in a field in
Dorset with a couple of quick trips during the day to Liverpool.

I can only assume that the portable mobile mast being used at the GDSF
had previously been used in Liverpool and was reporting a false location
- to Google at least if not to the telcos.

Other than that it has been pretty good.

If using location history on a PC the settings cog allows you to show
raw data which comes complete with an error ring


And it also shows photos taken on the day!


--
Adam

djc November 21st 17 07:38 PM

Google is too clever
 
On 21/11/17 12:30, Tim Watts wrote:
On 20/11/17 19:27, ARW wrote:
On 19/11/2017 21:29, Tim Watts wrote:
On 19/11/17 18:44, ARW wrote:
All I said to my phone was "Navigate to ******** swimming pool.

It then tells me that I last visited the place twelve months ago.

Not bad going for a place that I only visit once a year to do an EICR.




Go to:

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/timeline?authuser=0&pb

and be awed and/or worried....



I am both in awe and worried. Some of those places I have never been to.

Now these are not always places I have put into a Google search entry.


Those places will be somewhere picked up by a GPS enabled Android device
that's logged in as you and enabled for location history.

I know that I once stopped and had a **** in a pub car park on my way
to Filey (she was driving so I drank six cans of beer on the way
there). That's showing as somewhere I have been.


Sounds right.

But the last time I went near Carlisle? Probably 1991.




And no records whatsoever of me going to London. Leicester,
Nottingham, Durham etc.


Curious...



I use mobile broadband for my internet connection. I don't have a
smartphone, just a PC. I sometimes, but not often, log into Google; I
have location etc, disabled. Generally Google thinks my location is
London, sometimes maps etc seem to think I am elsewhere, but not
Somerset which is where I am.
In the summer I was in Italy, using my mobile broadband. A friend from
Rome, who has an android smartphone with location on arrived in the
village, and was rather surprised when his timeline location suddenly
announced he was not only making a visit to Somerset but to the very
hamlet where I now live.



--
djc

(–€Ì¿Ä¹Ì¯–€Ì¿ Ì¿)
No low-hanging fruit, just a lot of small berries up a tall tree.

Andy Burns[_13_] November 21st 17 08:50 PM

Google is too clever
 
DJC wrote:

I use mobile broadband for my internet connection. I don't have a
smartphone, just a PC. I sometimes, but not often, log into Google; I
have location etc, disabled. Generally Google thinks my location is
London, sometimes maps etc seem to think I am elsewhere, but not
Somerset which is where I am.


Google's geolocation on a PC, and their geolocation on a phone are like
night and day, the phone has numerous radios (gps, wifi, bluetooth, 3G)
to locate you by, and the whole "fleet" of phones effectively act
together to give pretty good results.

e.g. even if your phone has GPS turned off, someone else's phone is
likely to have visited the same location with GPS enabled and reported
what wifi access points are visible from there, so your phone reports
what wifi it can see, and how strong their signals are, then google can
generally work out where you are quite reliably.

Their location on my PC wanders wildly around the country, and I like
that I'm not in their cross-hairs.


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