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Customer offered to put his car down his drive to allow me the space to
park across the front his drive way. Well he knocked the gas meter and cabinet off the wall with his car whist reversing down the drive. One for 0800 111 999 and I'll go back later. -- Adam |
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Some days people should have stayed in bed.
Brian -- ----- - This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please! "ARW" wrote in message ... Customer offered to put his car down his drive to allow me the space to park across the front his drive way. Well he knocked the gas meter and cabinet off the wall with his car whist reversing down the drive. One for 0800 111 999 and I'll go back later. -- Adam |
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On Sun, 5 Nov 2017 09:20:29 +0000, ARW
wrote: Customer offered to put his car down his drive to allow me the space to park across the front his drive way. Well he knocked the gas meter and cabinet off the wall with his car whist reversing down the drive. I wonder if that's not something he typically does (reversing his car that far back, not the gas meter bit). ;-) One for 0800 111 999 and I'll go back later. Did you notice if they had done much damage to their car? Shame if they did whilst trying to help etc ... A (elderly) neighbour managed to crush their gas meter and box against their front wall when coming in with their automatic car. Didn't do a lot of good to the front bumper or aircon rad either ... Cheers, T i m |
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On Sun, 5 Nov 2017 14:58:07 -0000, "Brian Gaff"
wrote: Some days people should have stayed in bed. Ain't that the truth Brian. ;-) Cheers, T i m |
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On 05/11/2017 19:22, TheChief wrote:
My late mother managed a seemingly impossible manoeuvre. My mother in law managed impressively, too. She borrowed a car. Stuck it in reverse and hit the accelerator big time. She managed to write off the car she was in, the one parked behind her, AND the car on the other side of the road that she spun into. |
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Customer offered to put his car down his drive to allow me the space to park across the front his drive way. Well he knocked the gas meter and cabinet off the wall with his car whist reversing down the drive. One for 0800 111 999 and I'll go back later. -- Adam My late mother managed a seemingly impossible manoeuvre. Like most house feeds her gas supply rose up the side of the house and "T" d through the wall about 2 feet above ground. The vertical run of pipe continued about 2 inches above the tee and the whole run was lagged. The vertical pipe was about 2 inches from the wall. Somehow she managed to hook the wheel arch of her fiesta over the pipe upstand and against the wall. Luckily there were some kind workmen at the house opposite. One of them had to get under the car and take enough weight so others could haul the car clear. Phil -- ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On Sun, 05 Nov 2017 19:31:37 +0000, GB wrote:
On 05/11/2017 19:22, TheChief wrote: My late mother managed a seemingly impossible manoeuvre. My mother in law managed impressively, too. She borrowed a car. Stuck it in reverse and hit the accelerator big time. She managed to write off the car she was in, the one parked behind her, AND the car on the other side of the road that she spun into. The best one I ever saw was done by the manager of a service station I was working at. I had to collect an old Rover 3.5 (this was many years ago) and bring it in for service. The owner had an artificial right leg, so it was an automatic, and the accelerator was to the *left* of the brake pedal. I drove it from the owner's house to the service station, about 5 miles - no problem, and parked it in the road. Manager came along and moved it to a short row of cars, parked perpendicular to the workshop wall. He then decided to inch it forward a bit, then hit the brake (which needed adjusting...) and pushed the 'clutch' down. Quite a bit of body repair there. -- My posts are my copyright and if @diy_forums or Home Owners' Hub wish to copy them they can pay me £1 a message. Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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On 05/11/2017 19:31, GB wrote:
On 05/11/2017 19:22, TheChief wrote: My late mother managed a seemingly impossible manoeuvre. My mother in law managed impressively, too. She borrowed a car. Stuck it in reverse and hit the accelerator big time. She managed to write off the car she was in, the one parked behind her, AND the car on the other side of the road that she spun into. While visiting my grandmother many years ago, we heard a bang. Outside was a scene of chaos. Apparently a Mini (old style) had come down the road at speed, touched my father's car on his right (literally a tiny paint mark on the end of the bumper), turned sharply away, lost control and went, head-on, into the side of a Volkswagen Jetta on the other side of the road. The Jetta was turned over onto its side on the pavement. Somehow the Mini driver managed to drive away! SteveW |
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On 5 Nov 2017 20:25:01 GMT, Bob Eager wrote:
The best one I ever saw was done by the manager of a service station I was working at. When the health campaigns started to place advertisements around that cigarettes can damage your health I doubt they anticipated what happened to me. Usual thing of an elderly women in a powerful automatic losing it and accelerating out of control and this case careering across a pub car park and striking the building, she hit so hard the wall was stove inwards and the cigarette machine launched across the room where and hit a couple of us, fortunately were only slightly bruised. G.Harman |
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On Mon, 06 Nov 2017 10:01:07 +0000, Tim Streater
wrote: In article , wrote: Usual thing of an elderly women in a powerful automatic losing it and accelerating out of control ... Here's a Q. I've never ridden a motorbike (well, been on the back once, that was enough), but I have the impression that to accelerate, you twist the handlebar handle. The twist grip, yes. Is this the case? If so, d'ye twist it towards or away from you? Towards (at the top). I could imagine that if it's towards, then that could be dangerous as if the bike starts to get away from you, you'll be pushed back and will tend to turn it to accelerate more. Yup. Does this happen? It can, something you often see on 'You've been framed' and Youtube with people getting on their kids twist-and-go bikes, pulling away and going into hedges and though fences etc. If so how do riders counteract it? On all but the most powerful bikes you are generally 'holding on' with your feet, your mass on the saddle (friction), you knees on the tank and sometimes the shape of the saddle (you sit in rather than on it to a degree), especially one that is stepped to raise the pillion higher than the rider (or a solo saddle with a 'hump' at the back). You also balance the acceleration with your body angle and the friction / grip / saddle by leaning into it (often before starting off, as seen on drag-bikes). https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/top-...e-27323289.jpg Additionally you also 'hold on' to the handlebar (via the twist grip) in the same way you would hold onto anything that was slippery, where you form a 'hook' with your fingers whilst also gripping with your hand / fingers and locking off your wrist. 'Sports bikes' tend to have the rider foot pegs further rearwards to help offset the affects of acceleration and better suit the more 'forward leaning' riding position. Tourers tend to set the pegs to give the rider a more upright position and cruisers have the pegs forward for a more laid-back posture. HTH. Cheers, T i m |
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It was in Cromer that I encountered an elderly lady on a mobility
scooter. This was her first outing on it. The manufacturers had designed it so that gripping the handlebar made it go, and letting go would make it stop. She was terrified, and no way was she going to let go! Her adult kids were running along behind her, trying to switch it off. |
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On Mon, 6 Nov 2017 10:50:02 +0000, GB
wrote: It was in Cromer that I encountered an elderly lady on a mobility scooter. This was her first outing on it. The manufacturers had designed it so that gripping the handlebar made it go, and letting go would make it stop. She was terrified, and no way was she going to let go! Her adult kids were running along behind her, trying to switch it off. Mum, after hurting her foot or summat took Dads 3 wheeler scooter out with us down the local park and around some other public open areas. The 'throttle' was as you mention, grip a control bar to the handlebar on the right to go forward, on the left to in reverse. She had been fine on it for a good hour or so (including going round a fairly tight maze g) till we came back close to her house and a pedestrian crossing. Just as she should have come to a halt (releasing the throttle and using the 'electric brake' (shorted motor)), her muscle memory from cycling kicked in and she squeezed the throttle thinking it was a brake. As she accelerated off of the pavement and just into the road I grabbed the buggy and brought it to a halt (luckily). She hasn't ridden it since and I'm not sure we would be happy for her to do so on her own, not without plenty of practice anyway. When I have allowed people to ride any of my (smaller) motorbikes who may not ridden for a while or I've not actually seen them riding with my own eyes ... I will push them along (on some private road / long drive) and then say 'front' ... or 'back', with the test to see how quickly / accurately they apply either brake (mixing up the repetition to keep them concentrating). 100% positive result normally means they know what they are doing. ;-) [1] Cheers, T i m [1] Years ago when IT training I met another trainer who was from SA and his family were still there, waiting for him to 'get settled' and buy a house etc. He was obviously homesick and missing his family so whilst we were chatting he mentioned he had a motorbike in SA and used to ride it quite a bit. Long-short, we were going away to a bike rally / long weekend and offered him a spare bike and camping gear if he wanted to join us. He was really taken aback and after doing the above 'quick check' and getting him on my insurance, off we all went. He said he really had a good time and it seemed to cheer him up for a while. ;-) |
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On 06/11/2017 10:50, GB wrote:
It was in Cromer that I encountered an elderly lady on a mobility scooter. This was her first outing on it. The manufacturers had designed it so that gripping the handlebar made it go, and letting go would make it stop. She was terrified, and no way was she going to let go! Her adult kids were running along behind her, trying to switch it off. Recently used a quad bike at local stables, surprised to find it didn't have a twist grip but rather a little thumb lever on the right handlebar. Not easy to control. I'd like to see someone try to control a scrambler or speedway bike like that. |
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On Mon, 6 Nov 2017 12:58:41 +0000, newshound
wrote: On 06/11/2017 10:50, GB wrote: It was in Cromer that I encountered an elderly lady on a mobility scooter. This was her first outing on it. The manufacturers had designed it so that gripping the handlebar made it go, and letting go would make it stop. She was terrified, and no way was she going to let go! Her adult kids were running along behind her, trying to switch it off. Recently used a quad bike at local stables, surprised to find it didn't have a twist grip but rather a little thumb lever on the right handlebar. Not easy to control. I'd like to see someone try to control a scrambler or speedway bike like that. Similar setup on the jet-skis I've used and some electric bikes and buggies and I think more typical on things where the transmission is automatic (CVT / jet nozzle) and unlike as you say on a road going motorbike or scrambler etc. It does alleviate the issue Tim raised re acceleration causing one to accelerate harder but that might also happen with a thumb-throttle if people grip harder (in a panic) in general? Cheers, T i m |
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Just as she should have come to a halt (releasing the throttle and using the 'electric brake' (shorted motor)), her muscle memory from cycling kicked in and she squeezed the throttle thinking it was a brake. The UK arrangement for trains of the Master Controller handle moving forward for brake and back for power is the exact opposite of UIC(1) requirements. This is the most probably explanation for a collision with a static vehicle involving a British Electrostar unit on the Czech Republic test track. From the recorded data, at the point when braking should have been initiated, power was taken. The local driver must have unthinkingly reverted to his usual technique. (1) UIC - Union Internationale des Chemins de fer Chris -- Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK Plant amazing Acers. |
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On Mon, 06 Nov 2017 13:39:41 +0000, Chris J Dixon
wrote: T i m wrote: Just as she should have come to a halt (releasing the throttle and using the 'electric brake' (shorted motor)), her muscle memory from cycling kicked in and she squeezed the throttle thinking it was a brake. The UK arrangement for trains of the Master Controller handle moving forward for brake and back for power is the exact opposite of UIC(1) requirements. Ok. This is the most probably explanation for a collision with a static vehicle involving a British Electrostar unit on the Czech Republic test track. From the recorded data, at the point when braking should have been initiated, power was taken. The local driver must have unthinkingly reverted to his usual technique. Interesting (from a UI POV). ;-) I had similar when I bought a Royal Enfield Bullet (350). I never rode any 'old British iron' so had no previous experience with having the (foot) gears on the right and the foot brake on the left with anything. So, whilst I could generally 'manage', it was far from intuitive as my left foot was only used to short / binary actions (clicking up and down gears) and my right foot was only used to pushing down and in analogue to apply the brakes. I finally sold it because I started taking our daughter pillion and I was concerned that in an 'emergency' situation, any and even fractions of seconds of delays or lack of finesse on the controls could have a bad outcome. ;-( (1) UIC - Union Internationale des Chemins de fer Cheers, T i m |
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On 06/11/2017 13:39, Chris J Dixon wrote:
T i m wrote: Just as she should have come to a halt (releasing the throttle and using the 'electric brake' (shorted motor)), her muscle memory from cycling kicked in and she squeezed the throttle thinking it was a brake. The UK arrangement for trains of the Master Controller handle moving forward for brake and back for power is the exact opposite of UIC(1) requirements. This is the most probably explanation for a collision with a static vehicle involving a British Electrostar unit on the Czech Republic test track. From the recorded data, at the point when braking should have been initiated, power was taken. The local driver must have unthinkingly reverted to his usual technique. (1) UIC - Union Internationale des Chemins de fer Chris The A470 going into Cardiff has reversible lanes with an overhead gantry showing a big red X to indicate traffic coming towards you and big green arrow to indicate your lane. However, the arrow points DOWN, which is illogical. Considering the direction you are going, it should point UP surely ?. |
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On 05/11/2017 21:34, Steve Walker wrote:
Somehow the Mini driver managed to drive away! With his ignition key embedded in his left kneecap ??? |
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On 07/11/2017 17:51, Andrew wrote:
The A470 going into Cardiff has reversible lanes with an overhead gantry showing a big red X to indicate traffic coming towards you and big green arrow to indicate your lane. However, the arrow points DOWN, which is illogical. Considering the direction you are going, it should point UP surely ?. I think they are defined that way internationally. Of course that doesn't explain why. But I'd hazard the guess that it's to distinguish them from all the arrows that do point up - including traffic signals that "filter" ahead. After all, there's not much worse than people using a tidal flow (reversible) lane when they oughtn't. -- Robin reply-to address is (intended to be) valid |
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Andrew wrote:
On 06/11/2017 13:39, Chris J Dixon wrote: T i m wrote: Just as she should have come to a halt (releasing the throttle and using the 'electric brake' (shorted motor)), her muscle memory from cycling kicked in and she squeezed the throttle thinking it was a brake. The UK arrangement for trains of the Master Controller handle moving forward for brake and back for power is the exact opposite of UIC(1) requirements. This is the most probably explanation for a collision with a static vehicle involving a British Electrostar unit on the Czech Republic test track. From the recorded data, at the point when braking should have been initiated, power was taken. The local driver must have unthinkingly reverted to his usual technique. (1) UIC - Union Internationale des Chemins de fer Chris The A470 going into Cardiff has reversible lanes with an overhead gantry showing a big red X to indicate traffic coming towards you and big green arrow to indicate your lane. However, the arrow points DOWN, which is illogical. Considering the direction you are going, it should point UP surely ?. Take a look at the green running man fire exit signs. Some have the arrow pointing up to the ceiling, some have it pointing down towards the door. I know which way I would have pointed the arrow - towards the door. I once got into a very heated argument with the service manager of the second biggest fire protection company in the world over this issue. Nobody won. |
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On Tue, 7 Nov 2017 20:18:25 -0000, "Mr Pounder Esquire"
wrote: snip Take a look at the green running man fire exit signs. Some have the arrow pointing up to the ceiling, some have it pointing down towards the door. I know which way I would have pointed the arrow - towards the door. I once got into a very heated argument with the service manager of the second biggest fire protection company in the world over this issue. Nobody won. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_De...veryday_Things Cheers, T i m |
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On 07/11/2017 20:18, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Take a look at the green running man fire exit signs. Some have the arrow pointing up to the ceiling, some have it pointing down towards the door. I know which way I would have pointed the arrow - towards the door. I once got into a very heated argument with the service manager of the second biggest fire protection company in the world over this issue. Nobody won. And as we are told not to panic and run in an emergency then why a picture of a bloke legging it? -- Adam |
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