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How do I remove glued-in headset drivers (tiny speakers) from my headset?
I've got a surround sound headset which needs a driver replacement. The problem is that they're firmly glued in. The surrounding plastic is ABS and I'm guessing the main body of the drivers probably is too.
So is there a particular solvent to loosen the glue that doesn't affect ABS? I'm assuming they are removable or else how would the manufacturer replace them under warranty? And before you say it, yes I have tried to tentatively lever them out but they're not going to last long doing that. The drivers are really fragile and really firmly glued in. Pic of drivers: https://imgur.com/a/0zV4G Thanks for any suggestions. |
How do I remove glued-in headset drivers (tiny speakers) from myheadset?
On 27/10/2017 16:01, me wrote:
I've got a surround sound headset which needs a driver replacement. The problem is that they're firmly glued in. The surrounding plastic is ABS and I'm guessing the main body of the drivers probably is too. So is there a particular solvent to loosen the glue that doesn't affect ABS? I'm assuming they are removable or else how would the manufacturer replace them under warranty? And before you say it, yes I have tried to tentatively lever them out but they're not going to last long doing that. The drivers are really fragile and really firmly glued in. Pic of drivers: https://imgur.com/a/0zV4G Thanks for any suggestions. "I'm assuming they are removable or else how would the manufacturer replace them under warranty?" They just give you a new headphone. |
How do I remove glued-in headset drivers (tiny speakers) from my headset?
On Friday, October 27, 2017 at 4:05:32 PM UTC+1, GB wrote:
On 27/10/2017 16:01, me wrote: I've got a surround sound headset which needs a driver replacement. The problem is that they're firmly glued in. The surrounding plastic is ABS and I'm guessing the main body of the drivers probably is too. So is there a particular solvent to loosen the glue that doesn't affect ABS? I'm assuming they are removable or else how would the manufacturer replace them under warranty? And before you say it, yes I have tried to tentatively lever them out but they're not going to last long doing that. The drivers are really fragile and really firmly glued in. Pic of drivers: https://imgur.com/a/0zV4G Thanks for any suggestions. "I'm assuming they are removable or else how would the manufacturer replace them under warranty?" They just give you a new headphone. Well for this model they won't because it's no longer made. But, in general, do you really think they'd just swap out a brand new headset (cost £130 retail) rather than replace one broken driver? |
How do I remove glued-in headset drivers (tiny speakers) from my headset?
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me wrote: Well for this model they won't because it's no longer made. But, in general, do you really think they'd just swap out a brand new headset (cost £130 retail) rather than replace one broken driver? Can you buy a single earpiece complete and replace that? -- *I'm pretty sure that sex is better than logic, but I can't prove it. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
How do I remove glued-in headset drivers (tiny speakers) from my headset?
On Friday, 27 October 2017 16:24:30 UTC+1, me wrote:
Well for this model they won't because it's no longer made. But, in general, do you really think they'd just swap out a brand new headset (cost £130 retail) rather than replace one broken driver? Yes, because these things don't cost them anything close to £130 and they come ready glued together from China and are not designed to be disassembled. It'll just get passed up the line from retailer to manufacturer with each one giving credit to their buyer until China send out a relacement containerload for a tenner each. Owain |
How do I remove glued-in headset drivers (tiny speakers) from my headset?
By "earpiece" I assume you mean the whole assembly and the answer's no as they're no longer in production. But even if I could I'd still rather replace just the broken driver if I can find a way to unglue it!
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How do I remove glued-in headset drivers (tiny speakers) from my headset?
On Friday, October 27, 2017 at 5:00:21 PM UTC+1, wrote:
....they come ready glued together from China and are not designed to be disassembled. Owain Where there's a will there's a way. I have the will, now I just need to find a way. |
How do I remove glued-in headset drivers (tiny speakers) from myheadset?
On 27/10/2017 16:24, me wrote:
On Friday, October 27, 2017 at 4:05:32 PM UTC+1, GB wrote: On 27/10/2017 16:01, me wrote: I've got a surround sound headset which needs a driver replacement. The problem is that they're firmly glued in. The surrounding plastic is ABS and I'm guessing the main body of the drivers probably is too. So is there a particular solvent to loosen the glue that doesn't affect ABS? I'm assuming they are removable or else how would the manufacturer replace them under warranty? And before you say it, yes I have tried to tentatively lever them out but they're not going to last long doing that. The drivers are really fragile and really firmly glued in. Pic of drivers: https://imgur.com/a/0zV4G Thanks for any suggestions. "I'm assuming they are removable or else how would the manufacturer replace them under warranty?" They just give you a new headphone. Well for this model they won't because it's no longer made. But, in general, do you really think they'd just swap out a brand new headset (cost £130 retail) rather than replace one broken driver? Yes. |
How do I remove glued-in headset drivers (tiny speakers) from myheadset?
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How do I remove glued-in headset drivers (tiny speakers) from myheadset?
On 27/10/2017 17:51, me wrote:
On Friday, October 27, 2017 at 5:00:21 PM UTC+1, wrote: ...they come ready glued together from China and are not designed to be disassembled. Owain Where there's a will there's a way. I have the will, now I just need to find a way. Cut the driver to bits with a Dremel, then lever it out with a craft knife? Stick the new driver on top of the old one? |
How do I remove glued-in headset drivers (tiny speakers) frommy headset?
On Fri, 27 Oct 2017 09:46:47 -0700 (PDT)
me wrote: By "earpiece" I assume you mean the whole assembly and the answer's no as they're no longer in production. But even if I could I'd still rather replace just the broken driver if I can find a way to unglue it! Just carve it out with a sharp blade. Or buy a headset on eBay that has failed on the other side ... |
How do I remove glued-in headset drivers (tiny speakers) from my headset?
On Friday, October 27, 2017 at 5:58:15 PM UTC+1, GB wrote:
Cut the driver to bits with a Dremel, then lever it out with a craft knife? Stick the new driver on top of the old one? Yup, that'll probably work and at the moment seems like it might be the only way. On further inspection the glue looks like superglue and I tried a bit of IPA on it which sopftened it so a long enough soak might enable me to lever it out (eventually!). |
How do I remove glued-in headset drivers (tiny speakers) from myheadset?
On 27/10/17 18:08, Rob Morley wrote:
On Fri, 27 Oct 2017 09:46:47 -0700 (PDT) me wrote: By "earpiece" I assume you mean the whole assembly and the answer's no as they're no longer in production. But even if I could I'd still rather replace just the broken driver if I can find a way to unglue it! Just carve it out with a sharp blade. ....you don't even have to be tidy about it: treat the faulty driver as totally sacrificial and concentrate on preserving the chassis. Nick |
How do I remove glued-in headset drivers (tiny speakers) from myheadset?
On 27/10/17 16:24, me wrote:
On Friday, October 27, 2017 at 4:05:32 PM UTC+1, GB wrote: On 27/10/2017 16:01, me wrote: I've got a surround sound headset which needs a driver replacement. The problem is that they're firmly glued in. The surrounding plastic is ABS and I'm guessing the main body of the drivers probably is too. So is there a particular solvent to loosen the glue that doesn't affect ABS? I'm assuming they are removable or else how would the manufacturer replace them under warranty? And before you say it, yes I have tried to tentatively lever them out but they're not going to last long doing that. The drivers are really fragile and really firmly glued in. Pic of drivers: https://imgur.com/a/0zV4G Thanks for any suggestions. "I'm assuming they are removable or else how would the manufacturer replace them under warranty?" They just give you a new headphone. Well for this model they won't because it's no longer made. But, in general, do you really think they'd just swap out a brand new headset (cost £130 retail) rather than replace one broken driver? yes. because the actual cost is probably nearer £15 |
How do I remove glued-in headset drivers (tiny speakers) from myheadset?
On 27/10/17 18:28, me wrote:
On Friday, October 27, 2017 at 5:58:15 PM UTC+1, GB wrote: Cut the driver to bits with a Dremel, then lever it out with a craft knife? Stick the new driver on top of the old one? Yup, that'll probably work and at the moment seems like it might be the only way. On further inspection the glue looks like superglue and I tried a bit of IPA on it which sopftened it so a long enough soak might enable me to lever it out (eventually!). superglue is only softened by acetone, and nitromethane which will take out most plastics |
How do I remove glued-in headset drivers (tiny speakers) from my headset?
On Friday, October 27, 2017 at 7:00:41 PM UTC+1, Nick Odell wrote:
...you don't even have to be tidy about it: treat the faulty driver as totally sacrificial and concentrate on preserving the chassis. Nick You're not wrong but I really want the driver out in one piece as I intend to repair that as well! |
How do I remove glued-in headset drivers (tiny speakers) from my headset?
On Friday, October 27, 2017 at 8:09:05 PM UTC+1, Tjoepstil wrote:
superglue is only softened by acetone, and nitromethane which will take out most plastics I don't know though. I found a page that suggested IPA for softening superglue where acetone would otherwise melt the plastic. It looks like superglue, I tried it, it softened. Now I just need something very very thin and sharp and stiff to get into the tiny gap to remove the softened glue. |
How do I remove glued-in headset drivers (tiny speakers) from myheadset?
On 27/10/2017 20:33, me wrote:
On Friday, October 27, 2017 at 8:09:05 PM UTC+1, Tjoepstil wrote: superglue is only softened by acetone, and nitromethane which will take out most plastics I don't know though. I found a page that suggested IPA for softening superglue where acetone would otherwise melt the plastic. It looks like superglue, I tried it, it softened. Now I just need something very very thin and sharp and stiff Victoria Beckham! to get into the tiny gap to remove the softened glue. |
How do I remove glued-in headset drivers (tiny speakers) from myheadset?
On 27/10/2017 20:29, me wrote:
On Friday, October 27, 2017 at 7:00:41 PM UTC+1, Nick Odell wrote: ...you don't even have to be tidy about it: treat the faulty driver as totally sacrificial and concentrate on preserving the chassis. Nick You're not wrong but I really want the driver out in one piece as I intend to repair that as well! Repair it in situ? |
How do I remove glued-in headset drivers (tiny speakers) from myheadset?
On 27/10/2017 16:01, me wrote:
So is there a particular solvent to loosen the glue that doesn't affect ABS? Gentle application of heat can often work - many assembly line glues are types of hot glue (hand because there is no curing time - once its cooled off its set). Some modern phones / laptops etc are very fond if it! I'm assuming they are removable or else how would the manufacturer replace them under warranty? They would just replace the whole unit. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
How do I remove glued-in headset drivers (tiny speakers) from my headset?
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John Rumm wrote: I'm assuming they are removable or else how would the manufacturer replace them under warranty? They would just replace the whole unit. Wonder what happens to power tools etc Lidl and so on get as warranty returns? -- He who laughs last, thinks slowest* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
How do I remove glued-in headset drivers (tiny speakers) from my headset?
On Saturday, October 28, 2017 at 1:51:17 PM UTC+1, John Rumm wrote:
Gentle application of heat can often work - many assembly line glues are types of hot glue (hand because there is no curing time - once its cooled off its set). Some modern phones / laptops etc are very fond if it! I'm assuming they are removable or else how would the manufacturer replace them under warranty? They would just replace the whole unit. I hadn't thought of applying heat and you may be right but as I really want to keep the driver in one piece I think the glue on the drivers would also be affected, no doubt to their detriment. As I mentioned above I tried IPA and it does soften the glue slightly but the gap between driver and surround plastic is so narrow there's no way to remove the glue even if softened. And having now removed a driver from another faulty unit by drilling and grinding the surround lip away with a 1mm drill bit (because I don't have a Dremel which would have made life easier), I realise these units are definitely not made to be repaired, only replaced as you say! But at least now I have a way to remove the drivers and can proceed with the repair. I'd be willing to bet though that someone who really knows their plastics and glues would be able to come up with a suitable solvent. |
How do I remove glued-in headset drivers (tiny speakers) from my headset?
"me" wrote in message ... On Saturday, October 28, 2017 at 1:51:17 PM UTC+1, John Rumm wrote: Gentle application of heat can often work - many assembly line glues are types of hot glue (hand because there is no curing time - once its cooled off its set). Some modern phones / laptops etc are very fond if it! I'm assuming they are removable or else how would the manufacturer replace them under warranty? They would just replace the whole unit. I hadn't thought of applying heat and you may be right but as I really want to keep the driver in one piece I think the glue on the drivers would also be affected, no doubt to their detriment. As I mentioned above I tried IPA and it does soften the glue slightly but the gap between driver and surround plastic is so narrow there's no way to remove the glue even if softened. And having now removed a driver from another faulty unit by drilling and grinding the surround lip away with a 1mm drill bit (because I don't have a Dremel which would have made life easier), I realise these units are definitely not made to be repaired, only replaced as you say! But at least now I have a way to remove the drivers and can proceed with the repair. I'd be willing to bet though that someone who really knows their plastics and glues would be able to come up with a suitable solvent. I wouldnt, because there wont necessarily be a solvent that will dissolve the glue and not affect the plastics being glued particularly when the glue is a hot melt glue as most normally are now in that situation. |
How do I remove glued-in headset drivers (tiny speakers) from my headset?
On Sunday, October 29, 2017 at 9:21:13 PM UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
I wouldnt, because there wont necessarily be a solvent that will dissolve the glue and not affect the plastics being glued particularly when the glue is a hot melt glue as most normally are now in that situation. Well after hot melt was mentioned I looked it up and it turns out IPA is the exact solvent to use for it. There's videos of it being applied and almost instantly releasing the glue. I've tried it on the glue on my headset and it does soften it to some extent but there's no magic instant release so I'm not convinced it is hot melt glue. I suppose it's all academic now anyway as I've gone for the brute force approach. |
How do I remove glued-in headset drivers (tiny speakers) from my headset?
me wrote
Rod Speed wrote I wouldnt, because there wont necessarily be a solvent that will dissolve the glue and not affect the plastics being glued particularly when the glue is a hot melt glue as most normally are now in that situation. Well after hot melt was mentioned I looked it up and it turns out IPA is the exact solvent to use for it. There's videos of it being applied and almost instantly releasing the glue. Doesnt work with my hot melt glue. I've tried it on the glue on my headset and it does soften it to some extent but there's no magic instant release so I'm not convinced it is hot melt glue. There is a hell of a lot more than just one hot melt glue. I suppose it's all academic now anyway as I've gone for the brute force approach. |
How do I remove glued-in headset drivers (tiny speakers) from my headset?
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me wrote: I realise these units are definitely not made to be repaired, only replaced as you say! But at least now I have a way to remove the drivers and can proceed with the repair. I'm surprised you can source a new driver if it's not designed to be replaced? -- *I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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