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Additional tap for unsoftened water?
As part of a major refurb I'm planning to install a water softener that
will provide softened water to all the existing hot/cold taps, but I want to add a tap for unsoftened water in a few places (kitchen, bathroom, ensuite). I'd prefer not to change the existing basins and taps because they're in keeping with the (30s) house so I need to add an additional tap, somehow, at these locations - the question is ... how? |
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On Wednesday, 23 August 2017 14:12:10 UTC+1, wrote:
As part of a major refurb I'm planning to install a water softener that will provide softened water to all the existing hot/cold taps, but I want to add a tap for unsoftened water in a few places (kitchen, bathroom, ensuite). I'd prefer not to change the existing basins and taps because they're in keeping with the (30s) house so I need to add an additional tap, somehow, at these locations - the question is ... how? same way they were always done, mounted on the wall. NT |
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In article , The Natural Philosopher
wrote: On 23/08/17 14:12, wrote: As part of a major refurb I'm planning to install a water softener that will provide softened water to all the existing hot/cold taps, but I want to add a tap for unsoftened water in a few places (kitchen, bathroom, ensuite). I'd prefer not to change the existing basins and taps because they're in keeping with the (30s) house so I need to add an additional tap, somehow, at these locations - the question is ... how? REaly dont bother. Its fime to drink softened water. but it makes horrible tea. i wouldn't use softened water in the garden, either. -- from KT24 in Surrey, England |
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As part of a major refurb I'm planning to install a water softener that will provide softened water to all the existing hot/cold taps, but I want to add a tap for unsoftened water in a few places (kitchen, bathroom, ensuite). I'd prefer not to change the existing basins and taps because they're in keeping with the (30s) house so I need to add an additional tap, somehow, at these locations - the question is ... how? I think it's generally agreed that adding extra taps other than by the kitchen sink is overkill. You're not going to be drinking significant quantities of water from other taps (or can at least easily avoid doing so). Tim -- Please don't feed the trolls |
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On 23/08/2017 16:58, charles wrote:
In article , The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 23/08/17 14:12, wrote: As part of a major refurb I'm planning to install a water softener that will provide softened water to all the existing hot/cold taps, but I want to add a tap for unsoftened water in a few places (kitchen, bathroom, ensuite). I'd prefer not to change the existing basins and taps because they're in keeping with the (30s) house so I need to add an additional tap, somehow, at these locations - the question is ... how? REaly dont bother. Its fime to drink softened water. but it makes horrible tea. i wouldn't use softened water in the garden, either. I agree. The garden taps are straight off the water incomer, plus I plan to get a pump into the well for irrigation. |
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But do you need one everywhere? If its drinking water then surely only the
Kitchen? Brian -- ----- - This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please! wrote in message ... On Wednesday, 23 August 2017 14:12:10 UTC+1, wrote: As part of a major refurb I'm planning to install a water softener that will provide softened water to all the existing hot/cold taps, but I want to add a tap for unsoftened water in a few places (kitchen, bathroom, ensuite). I'd prefer not to change the existing basins and taps because they're in keeping with the (30s) house so I need to add an additional tap, somehow, at these locations - the question is ... how? same way they were always done, mounted on the wall. NT |
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As part of a major refurb I'm planning to install a water softener that will provide softened water to all the existing hot/cold taps, but I want to add a tap for unsoftened water in a few places (kitchen, bathroom, ensuite). Why ? And do you want that with just the cold water or both hot and cold ? I'd prefer not to change the existing basins and taps because they're in keeping with the (30s) house so I need to add an additional tap, somehow, at these locations - the question is ... how? I'd personally do with with a diverter behind the say basin tap to switch between the two sources, but its not too clear how well that would work once some of the people in the house are getting senile and have altzhiemers etc. |
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"Tim+" wrote in message news wrote: As part of a major refurb I'm planning to install a water softener that will provide softened water to all the existing hot/cold taps, but I want to add a tap for unsoftened water in a few places (kitchen, bathroom, ensuite). I'd prefer not to change the existing basins and taps because they're in keeping with the (30s) house so I need to add an additional tap, somehow, at these locations - the question is ... how? I think it's generally agreed that adding extra taps other than by the kitchen sink is overkill. You're not going to be drinking significant quantities of water from other taps (or can at least easily avoid doing so). Dunno. If I was into drinking unsoftened water for some reason, I'd prefer to have it available wherever I ever drink much water, particularly in the ensuite etc than to have to fart around getting it from the kitchen for what I drink at night etc. Corse that raises the question why its planned to have softened water everywhere. On second thoughts, my diverter isnt a great idea if you want if for drinking water because say one person in the household is into non softened water for drinking for some reason. Not convinced that there is any really viable way to do it in the ensuite and bathroom particularly given that most basins etc are designed for just two taps. |
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"Clive Arthur" wrote in message news On 23/08/2017 14:12, wrote: As part of a major refurb I'm planning to install a water softener that will provide softened water to all the existing hot/cold taps, but I want to add a tap for unsoftened water in a few places (kitchen, bathroom, ensuite). I'd prefer not to change the existing basins and taps because they're in keeping with the (30s) house so I need to add an additional tap, somehow, at these locations - the question is ... how? Replace the cold taps with mixer taps fed from both colds and select the required hardness. But that isnt going to satisfy his style requirement. And is likely to be a problem with the senile/altzhiemers too. |
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Brian Gaff wrote
But do you need one everywhere? If its drinking water then surely only the Kitchen? More convenient in the bathroom and ensuite if you have a glass of water by the bed etc. Some do. wrote in message ... On Wednesday, 23 August 2017 14:12:10 UTC+1, wrote: As part of a major refurb I'm planning to install a water softener that will provide softened water to all the existing hot/cold taps, but I want to add a tap for unsoftened water in a few places (kitchen, bathroom, ensuite). I'd prefer not to change the existing basins and taps because they're in keeping with the (30s) house so I need to add an additional tap, somehow, at these locations - the question is ... how? same way they were always done, mounted on the wall. NT |
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On 23/08/2017 20:48, Rod Speed wrote:
"Tim+" wrote in message news wrote: As part of a major refurb I'm planning to install a water softener that will provide softened water to all the existing hot/cold taps, but I want to add a tap for unsoftened water in a few places (kitchen, bathroom, ensuite). I'd prefer not to change the existing basins and taps because they're in keeping with the (30s) house so I need to add an additional tap, somehow, at these locations - the question is ... how? I think it's generally agreed that adding extra taps other than by the kitchen sink is overkill. You're not going to be drinking significant quantities of water from other taps (or can at least easily avoid doing so). Dunno. If I was into drinking unsoftened water for some reason, I'd prefer to have it available wherever I ever drink much water, particularly in the ensuite etc than to have to fart around getting it from the kitchen for what I drink at night etc. Corse that raises the question why its planned to have softened water everywhere. On second thoughts, my diverter isnt a great idea if you want if for drinking water because say one person in the household is into non softened water for drinking for some reason. Not convinced that there is any really viable way to do it in the ensuite and bathroom particularly given that most basins etc are designed for just two taps. Are you aware that softened water had an increased sodium content? http://www.ukwta.org/technology-areas/faqs/ |
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"Fredxxx" wrote in message news On 23/08/2017 20:48, Rod Speed wrote: "Tim+" wrote in message news wrote: As part of a major refurb I'm planning to install a water softener that will provide softened water to all the existing hot/cold taps, but I want to add a tap for unsoftened water in a few places (kitchen, bathroom, ensuite). I'd prefer not to change the existing basins and taps because they're in keeping with the (30s) house so I need to add an additional tap, somehow, at these locations - the question is ... how? I think it's generally agreed that adding extra taps other than by the kitchen sink is overkill. You're not going to be drinking significant quantities of water from other taps (or can at least easily avoid doing so). Dunno. If I was into drinking unsoftened water for some reason, I'd prefer to have it available wherever I ever drink much water, particularly in the ensuite etc than to have to fart around getting it from the kitchen for what I drink at night etc. Corse that raises the question why its planned to have softened water everywhere. On second thoughts, my diverter isnt a great idea if you want if for drinking water because say one person in the household is into non softened water for drinking for some reason. Not convinced that there is any really viable way to do it in the ensuite and bathroom particularly given that most basins etc are designed for just two taps. Are you aware that softened water had an increased sodium content? http://www.ukwta.org/technology-areas/faqs/ Yep. |
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On 23/08/17 17:12, wrote:
On 23/08/2017 16:27, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 23/08/17 14:12, wrote: As part of a major refurb I'm planning to install a water softener that will provide softened water to all the existing hot/cold taps, but I want to add a tap for unsoftened water in a few places (kitchen, bathroom, ensuite). I'd prefer not to change the existing basins and taps because they're in keeping with the (30s) house so I need to add an additional tap, somehow, at these locations - the question is ... how? REaly dont bother. Its fime to drink softened water. If you are that fussy, all those extra taps anmd plumbing buys a lot of bottled water. There seems to be conflicting advice/opinion about the sodium levels in softened water for the general population, but advice for elderly and babies seems to be not to drink it. It seems daft to do a lot of work on a house and not make provision for hard water for those that might want it in the future ... it's not much more work or cost. Regardless of all that - I prefer the taste of hard water. The actual amount of sodium in a pint of softened water is in most cases less than you get from eating half a packet of crisps. It really isnt an issue. Taste is. And that's personal. I rather like the taste myself. -- €œBut what a weak barrier is truth when it stands in the way of an hypothesis!€ Mary Wollstonecraft |
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On 23/08/17 17:31, Clive Arthur wrote:
On 23/08/2017 14:12, wrote: As part of a major refurb I'm planning to install a water softener that will provide softened water to all the existing hot/cold taps, but I want to add a tap for unsoftened water in a few places (kitchen, bathroom, ensuite). I'd prefer not to change the existing basins and taps because they're in keeping with the (30s) house so I need to add an additional tap, somehow, at these locations - the question is ... how? Replace the cold taps with mixer taps fed from both colds and select the required hardness. Cheers LOL! -- No Apple devices were knowingly used in the preparation of this post. |
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On 2017-08-23, Rod Speed wrote:
wrote As part of a major refurb I'm planning to install a water softener that will provide softened water to all the existing hot/cold taps, but I want to add a tap for unsoftened water in a few places (kitchen, bathroom, ensuite). Why ? Hard water might possibly be very marginally healthier than softened water. http://www.ukwta.org/technology-areas/faqs/ And some people prefer the taste of hard/unsoftened water (possibly just because it's what they are used to). And do you want that with just the cold water or both hot and cold ? I doubt anyone drinks water from the hot bathroom or ensuite taps. Filling a kettle from a hot tap can make sense, but I can't see anyone bothering with a separate unsoftened hot tap for that. |
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"Alan Braggins" wrote in message ... On 2017-08-23, Rod Speed wrote: wrote As part of a major refurb I'm planning to install a water softener that will provide softened water to all the existing hot/cold taps, but I want to add a tap for unsoftened water in a few places (kitchen, bathroom, ensuite). Why ? Hard water might possibly be very marginally healthier than softened water. http://www.ukwta.org/technology-areas/faqs/ And some people prefer the taste of hard/unsoftened water (possibly just because it's what they are used to). Yeah, I was essentially asking if it was for medical or just preference/taste reasons. I should have said that less cryptically. And do you want that with just the cold water or both hot and cold ? I doubt anyone drinks water from the hot bathroom or ensuite taps. Dunno why someone who lives alone who can spend some time in bed for medical reasons might well want to fill the jug from there instead of hiking out to the kitchen every time they want a hot drink etc. Filling a kettle from a hot tap can make sense, but I can't see anyone bothering with a separate unsoftened hot tap for that. He clearly does for some reason and if he mostly drinks hot drinks, why not ? |
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