Typical .... just bought new saw, and after a cut, put it down and it
neatly fed flex into the blade ... last saw lasted 20+ years ...arrrrgh!


I am guessing this is simple 1mm2 2 core PVC insulated/pvc sheathed flex.

A new flex is over £20 .... so thinking at around £3 or less for a 3m
length might as well source cable elsewhere - I can lice without a
moulded plug.

Luckily it is screw fitted in the saw body ... I have new crimps - so
that part OK ......... is this flex anything special ? printed on outer
sheath is

IEMMEQU NF-USE-1176 VDE H05VV-F 2X1.0mm2 N/18421 TA HSING IEC 60227 LF

Looks like a normal PVC flex to me, or does this coding specify
something special on thicker sheath or low temp performance.

On 25/07/2017 13:27, rick wrote:
Typical .... just bought new saw, and after a cut, put it down and it
neatly fed flex into the blade ... last saw lasted 20+ years ...arrrrgh!


I am guessing this is simple 1mm2 2 core PVC insulated/pvc sheathed flex.

A new flex is over £20 .... so thinking at around £3 or less for a 3m
length might as well source cable elsewhere - I can lice without a
moulded plug.

Luckily it is screw fitted in the saw body ... I have new crimps - so
that part OK ......... is this flex anything special ? printed on outer
sheath is

IEMMEQU NF-USE-1176 VDE H05VV-F 2X1.0mm2 N/18421 TA HSING IEC 60227 LF

Looks like a normal PVC flex to me, or does this coding specify
something special on thicker sheath or low temp performance.

The useful bit of info is the "H05VV-F 2X1.0mm2"

The second bit tells you its a pair of 1mm^2 conductors. The first bit
is a harmonised cable code:

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/...ed_cable_codes

So that tells you its:

H = harmonised
05 = upto 300V single phase (or 500V 3 phase)
V = PVC outer insulation
V = PVC inner insulation
F = Flex

So all in all bog standard flex...

Nothing stopping you replacing it with something else though like a
decent rubber flex that will be nicer[1] to use on a saw.

[1] More flexible, better low temperature handling, less memory of how
it was coiled etc. Something like H05RN-F perhaps.


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On Tuesday, 25 July 2017 14:34:58 UTC+1, John Rumm wrote:
On 25/07/2017 13:27, rick wrote:

Typical .... just bought new saw, and after a cut, put it down and it
neatly fed flex into the blade ... last saw lasted 20+ years ...arrrrgh!


I am guessing this is simple 1mm2 2 core PVC insulated/pvc sheathed flex.

A new flex is over £20 .... so thinking at around £3 or less for a 3m
length might as well source cable elsewhere - I can lice without a
moulded plug.

Luckily it is screw fitted in the saw body ... I have new crimps - so
that part OK ......... is this flex anything special ? printed on outer
sheath is

IEMMEQU NF-USE-1176 VDE H05VV-F 2X1.0mm2 N/18421 TA HSING IEC 60227 LF

Looks like a normal PVC flex to me, or does this coding specify
something special on thicker sheath or low temp performance.

The useful bit of info is the "H05VV-F 2X1.0mm2"

The second bit tells you its a pair of 1mm^2 conductors. The first bit
is a harmonised cable code:

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/...ed_cable_codes

So that tells you its:

H = harmonised
05 = upto 300V single phase (or 500V 3 phase)
V = PVC outer insulation
V = PVC inner insulation
F = Flex

So all in all bog standard flex...

Nothing stopping you replacing it with something else though like a
decent rubber flex that will be nicer[1] to use on a saw.

[1] More flexible, better low temperature handling, less memory of how
it was coiled etc. Something like H05RN-F perhaps.

It's 2 core mains flex, nothing special. You can get some from your nearest bin or go buy a bit at any electrical shop. If they ask for £20 it's time to shop elsewhere. £2 would be more realistic retail, 99p on ebay..

Rubber handles nicer, other than its high friction, but is not necessary.

FWIW
http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Cables
shows that it's unlikely to need 1 sq mm. Such cable size is more likely to be picked because it feels & sits better. Lighter flex is more disobedient..


NT

rick wrote:

I am guessing this is simple 1mm2 2 core PVC insulated/pvc sheathed flex.
IEMMEQU NF-USE-1176 VDE H05VV-F 2X1.0mm2 N/18421 TA HSING IEC 60227 LF

That is, but you might as well treat it to H07RN-F which is rubber
rather than PVC, nicer to have on power tools.

Well for all intents and purposes if it looks the same it probably is. The
one killer I found was that the cable strain relief on mine was actually
welded to the outside of the cable presumable to ease the strain and wiggle
problems at the clamp in the handle.
However I'm sure you can buy such things and glue it if you were bothered.
Brian

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Typical .... just bought new saw, and after a cut, put it down and it
neatly fed flex into the blade ... last saw lasted 20+ years ...arrrrgh!


I am guessing this is simple 1mm2 2 core PVC insulated/pvc sheathed flex.

A new flex is over £20 .... so thinking at around £3 or less for a 3m
length might as well source cable elsewhere - I can lice without a moulded
plug.

Luckily it is screw fitted in the saw body ... I have new crimps - so that
part OK ......... is this flex anything special ? printed on outer sheath
is

IEMMEQU NF-USE-1176 VDE H05VV-F 2X1.0mm2 N/18421 TA HSING IEC 60227 LF

Looks like a normal PVC flex to me, or does this coding specify something
special on thicker sheath or low temp performance.

On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 14:34:51 +0100, John Rumm wrote:

Nothing stopping you replacing it with something else though like a
decent rubber flex that will be nicer[1] to use on a saw.

[1] More flexible, better low temperature handling, less memory of how
it was coiled etc. Something like H05RN-F perhaps.

+1 Some PVC flexs are damn awaful on a tool. I bought 10m of 3-core
"Pond Flex" from B&Q which is H05RN-F to replace the nasty PVC on a
couple of power tools. Far better behaved. ISTR that B&Q also sell
another "rubber" cable but with a lower spec, chemical/water
resistance?

The biggest gotcha is likely to be a moulded on strain relief
grommet.

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On Wednesday, 26 July 2017 10:45:03 UTC+1, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 14:34:51 +0100, John Rumm wrote:

Nothing stopping you replacing it with something else though like a
decent rubber flex that will be nicer[1] to use on a saw.

[1] More flexible, better low temperature handling, less memory of how
it was coiled etc. Something like H05RN-F perhaps.

+1 Some PVC flexs are damn awaful on a tool. I bought 10m of 3-core
"Pond Flex" from B&Q which is H05RN-F to replace the nasty PVC on a
couple of power tools. Far better behaved. ISTR that B&Q also sell
another "rubber" cable but with a lower spec, chemical/water
resistance?

The biggest gotcha is likely to be a moulded on strain relief
grommet.

never found thos hard to effectively replace.

In article ,
John Rumm wrote:
Looks like a normal PVC flex to me, or does this coding specify
something special on thicker sheath or low temp performance.

The useful bit of info is the "H05VV-F 2X1.0mm2"

The second bit tells you its a pair of 1mm^2 conductors. The first bit
is a harmonised cable code:

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/...ed_cable_codes

So that tells you its:

H = harmonised
05 = upto 300V single phase (or 500V 3 phase)
V = PVC outer insulation
V = PVC inner insulation
F = Flex

So all in all bog standard flex...

Nothing stopping you replacing it with something else though like a
decent rubber flex that will be nicer[1] to use on a saw.

[1] More flexible, better low temperature handling, less memory of how
it was coiled etc. Something like H05RN-F perhaps.


But where do you get 2 core 1mm rubber? TLC only list 0.75mm in 2 core.
All the larger sizes are 3 core only.

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On 26/07/2017 16:57, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
John Rumm wrote:

So all in all bog standard flex...

Nothing stopping you replacing it with something else though like a
decent rubber flex that will be nicer[1] to use on a saw.

[1] More flexible, better low temperature handling, less memory of how
it was coiled etc. Something like H05RN-F perhaps.


But where do you get 2 core 1mm rubber? TLC only list 0.75mm in 2 core.
All the larger sizes are 3 core only.

Its available:

http://cpc.farnell.com/pro-power/600...e-1/dp/CB19472



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On Wednesday, 26 July 2017 17:06:40 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
John Rumm wrote:
Looks like a normal PVC flex to me, or does this coding specify
something special on thicker sheath or low temp performance.

The useful bit of info is the "H05VV-F 2X1.0mm2"

The second bit tells you its a pair of 1mm^2 conductors. The first bit
is a harmonised cable code:

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/...ed_cable_codes

So that tells you its:

H = harmonised
05 = upto 300V single phase (or 500V 3 phase)
V = PVC outer insulation
V = PVC inner insulation
F = Flex

So all in all bog standard flex...

Nothing stopping you replacing it with something else though like a
decent rubber flex that will be nicer[1] to use on a saw.

[1] More flexible, better low temperature handling, less memory of how
it was coiled etc. Something like H05RN-F perhaps.


But where do you get 2 core 1mm rubber? TLC only list 0.75mm in 2 core.
All the larger sizes are 3 core only.

either of which will do nicely


NT