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On 25/07/2017 19:35, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , Andy Burns wrote: Tim Watts wrote: I can't see how this is any different to washing out a baby's bottle with Milton which is based on sodium hypochlorite aka standard household bleach. Do people avoid eating American chicken if they go there (or anywhere that imports from there) on holidays? I expect Tarquin takes his own chicken with him. And chokes it when he gets there? -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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"John Rumm" wrote in message
... On 25/07/2017 19:35, Tim Streater wrote: In article , Andy Burns wrote: Tim Watts wrote: I can't see how this is any different to washing out a baby's bottle with Milton which is based on sodium hypochlorite aka standard household bleach. Do people avoid eating American chicken if they go there (or anywhere that imports from there) on holidays? I expect Tarquin takes his own chicken with him. And chokes it when he gets there? You is a bad boy |
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On 24/07/2017 20:20, Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote:
On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 19:42:13 +0100, Andy Burns wrote: Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote: Chlorinated chicken isn't a good idea I don't eat meat, so haven't got a cock in this fight, but ... https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/07/ignore-the-scare-stories-from-remainers-over-chlorinated-chicken That article is misleading. It ignores a basic, fundamental fact. Properly produced, fresh meat does not need chlorine. Chlorine is bad for the individual and bad for the environment. A considerable number of factions would be dead against these products, The Brexit connection simply means that products of this nature are going to flood the British market without due regard for the risks. Americans are not nice when it comes to business, it's cash first and worry about the consequences after, AB you don't have to buy it. |
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writes In article , Ian Jackson wrote: In message , Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp writes Chlorinated chicken isn't a good idea, but that's what we'll be buying into. Although I'm a Remainer, I can see little problem with chlorinated chicken. Presumably it's effective at killing the bugs, and I guess there'll be very little chlorine in it by the time you come to eat it. Presumably Mr Biscuit-Barrel is unaware that bagged salad, freely available in supermarkets, is chlorinated. Certainly bags of prepared carrots (sticks) seem to be washed in something. We've had some from Waitrose that stank of what smelled like a mixture of vinegar and formic acid^, and were inedible. *Maybe it WAS chlorine. -- Ian |
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On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 18:51:36 +0100, Tim Streater
wrote: In article , Chris Hogg wrote: On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 19:35:19 +0100, Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote: Chlorinated chicken isn't a good idea, but that's what we'll be buying into. Food apart, I couldn't even chlorinate final effluent due to the contamination of the organic matter. Final effluent isn't a foodstuff. Rancid American chicken portions are. OOI, why should they be rancid. Do you think Americans would eat rancid chicken, or Brits for that matter? If they have a bad taste, either because they are rancid or because they taste of chlorine, no one is going to buy them, either here or over there. AIUI, the chicken carcasses get washed in bleach shortly after they've been killed and plucked, the object being to kill bacteria on the surface. I remember seeing Heston Blumenthal on TV a few years ago, demonstrating the slow, low-temperature cooking of chicken. He stressed that the bacteria were on the surface, not within the carcass, and he flamed the surface with a blowlamp to kill them, suggesting that the US practice has some justification. So what's not to like about chlorine-washed chicken? Tarquin doesn't like it. QED. I have never ever tried it. I have dined on home killed chicken, milk that was unpasturised and vegetables directly from the soil. The Farms were clean, family owned and they took great care over the produce. Obviously some of the contributers wouldn't give a hoot for fresh, quality food, but that's hardly surprising. Stuff whatever crud you wish inside you, it seems that an entire continent is acting in accordance with my requirements, so it isn't going to be a problem getting proper food. On the plus point, Trump thinks he can do a fast deal, I bet the pet food skips in the States are going to be seriously depleted soon. Brexiters seem to have the same taste in food as they do in newspapers. No surprises there! Bon Appetit!! AB |
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I bet the pet food skips in the States are going to be seriously depleted soon. Like the Spanish ones? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-40624073 |
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On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 20:53:24 +0100, Andy Burns
wrote: Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote: I bet the pet food skips in the States are going to be seriously depleted soon. Like the Spanish ones? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-40624073 The difference is it's illegal in the EU. They were caught! AB |
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"Mark" wrote in message ... On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 13:31:01 +0100, Handsome Jack wrote: tim... posted "Cursitor Doom" wrote in message news On Sun, 23 Jul 2017 23:46:17 +0100, Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote: Ireland are planning a new second city as Dublin absorbs the financial institutions that wish to maintain an EU presence. Dream on. The Irish can plan whatever they like but they're still on the bones of their arse and will have to raise taxes pretty damn soon; economists know this well and so do the banks! If there is an exodus of banks from the City (yay good riddance!) Ireland is about the last place they'll re-settle. actually not it's higher up the list than Paris (too many restrictive employment laws, taxes too high) and Frankfurt (a cultural desert) That the French and German banks might be moving back to France and Germany They're not. France is working very strongly attract the banks. and achieving very little doesn't not prove that the American banks will Nobody will "move" anywhere. The most that might happen is that some banks will set up subsidiary offices in an EU member state that they might not have done before. That's quite naive. If they think they are going to get a good deal they'll relocate. as I already stated, Investment banking relies very heavily on economies of scale, that's why they all accumulated in London in the first place Unless there is a legal reason why they have to, one is no going to relocate to France unless they all do |
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writes Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote: Andy Burns wrote: I don't eat meat, so haven't got a cock in this fight, but ... https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/0...stories-from-r emainers-over-chlorinated-chicken Chlorine is bad for the individual and bad for the environment. It's in water, and I gather salmonella isn't so good for you either. If the chlorine washed meat is as white as is claimed, I'm sure you'll be able to tell it apart from the yellow corn-fed chicken ... at a price. We've not just got chlorine but fluorine in our water. -- bert |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Mark wrote: Nobody will "move" anywhere. The most that might happen is that some banks will set up subsidiary offices in an EU member state that they might not have done before. That's quite naive. If they think they are going to get a good deal they'll relocate. They certainly will if the reason they chose London as a head office was to give access to the EU. no, it wasn't - only 15% of business of these banks is with the EU, and when they came it was far less. it was because it was in the right time zone (from an era where instant communications did not exist) and had the right business and legal culture It's why most banks have a third office in Tokyo, Singapore or HK The three locations (with the US) combined give it 24 hour coverage. tim |
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Tarquin Blenkinsopp writes On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 22:39:46 +0100, Tim Streater wrote: In article , Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote: On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 21:13:46 +0100, Tim Streater wrote: In article , Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote: On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 19:42:13 +0100, Andy Burns wrote: Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote: Chlorinated chicken isn't a good idea I don't eat meat, so haven't got a cock in this fight, but ... https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/0...re-stories-fro m-remaine rs- over-chlorinated-chicken That article is misleading. It ignores a basic, fundamental fact. Properly produced, fresh meat does not need chlorine. Nice shimmy, Mr Biscuit-Barrel: you have no argument so you shift the goal posts. I think you miss the point. Chlorine kills bacteria and removes smells. Like wearing hard hats or dust masks, it is far better to remove the problem at source instead of taking precautions. Hear that chaps? We don't actually need to wear hard hats, protective glasses, or dust masks. You really don't understand the "system" do you. Basic H&S, remove the risk at source, PPE is a last resort. Not really a mystery. The most basic operator on a civil's site would grunt something in agreement. You should get out more. I think the "chaps" might be having a bit of a chuckle behind your back incidentally If chicken is produced in a clean hygenic environment, ... Good luck with that. It's chumps like you, the people that don't see the need for regulations or standards that are a risk to us all. If companies get away with food production in a fithy environment, then they can undercut the company paying skilled cleaning staff. Soon there is a shortage of honest decent suppliers, as competition isn't possible if the market is skewed by malpractice. Malpractice and filth needs chlorine. Clean, fresh produce doesn't. You mean like the irradiated salads in the super markets? Got it yet?? AB Do wish you ******s would get a news reader which follow the regulations you are so keen on. -- bert |
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"Ian Jackson" wrote in message ... In message , Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp writes Chlorinated chicken isn't a good idea, but that's what we'll be buying into. Although I'm a Remainer, I can see little problem with chlorinated chicken. the problem simply arises in using the term chlorinated chicken instead of the official term chlorine washed chicken. the former implies to the reader that the chlorine is injected into the chicken I had to laugh at the the challenge that Liam Fox was given to eat chlorinated chicken given that he is (was) in the US at the time, I suspect that all he has to do is walk into the nearest Denny's and select a chicken dish from the menu tim |
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"Mark" wrote in message ... On 25 Jul 2017 15:41:56 GMT, Huge wrote: On 2017-07-25, Ian Jackson wrote: In message , Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp writes Chlorinated chicken isn't a good idea, but that's what we'll be buying into. Although I'm a Remainer, I can see little problem with chlorinated chicken. Presumably it's effective at killing the bugs, and I guess there'll be very little chlorine in it by the time you come to eat it. Even the EU's scientists don't think there's a problem with "chlorinated chicken". (It's no such thing, of course.) The ban is merely to protect European chicken producers, and their reasoning ("farm to fork") is nonsense. Can we believe any of this though? now many USans do you see dropping dead because they have eaten it? tim |
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"Huge" wrote in message ... On 2017-07-25, Andy Burns wrote: Tim Watts wrote: I can't see how this is any different to washing out a baby's bottle with Milton which is based on sodium hypochlorite aka standard household bleach. Do people avoid eating American chicken if they go there (or anywhere that imports from there) on holidays? No. And I find American steak better than most of what is on offer here. me too I'm looking forward to the possibility of buying US imported steak here tim |
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"Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp" wrote in message ... On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 20:53:24 +0100, Andy Burns wrote: Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote: I bet the pet food skips in the States are going to be seriously depleted soon. Like the Spanish ones? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-40624073 The difference is it's illegal in the EU. the difference is they were selling "not fit for human consumption" meat the fact that it was horse was incidental, Some countries openly sell horse meat, and others in pies hidden in the small print of the ingredients, as I discovered in The Netherlands tim |
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"Ian Jackson" wrote in message ... In message , Tim Streater writes In article , Ian Jackson wrote: In message , Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp writes Chlorinated chicken isn't a good idea, but that's what we'll be buying into. Although I'm a Remainer, I can see little problem with chlorinated chicken. Presumably it's effective at killing the bugs, and I guess there'll be very little chlorine in it by the time you come to eat it. Presumably Mr Biscuit-Barrel is unaware that bagged salad, freely available in supermarkets, is chlorinated. Certainly bags of prepared carrots (sticks) seem to be washed in something. We've had some from Waitrose that stank of what smelled like a mixture of vinegar and formic acid^, and were inedible. *Maybe it WAS chlorine. Unlikely with carrots. |
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"Mark" wrote in message ... On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 13:43:38 +1000, "Rod Speed" wrote: "Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp" wrote in message ... On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 10:25:38 +1000, "Rod Speed" wrote: "Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp" wrote in message ... On Sun, 23 Jul 2017 23:51:31 +0200 (CEST), Nomen Nescio wrote: On Sun, 23 Jul 2017 20:05:06 +0100, Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote: On Sun, 23 Jul 2017 09:09:27 -0700 (PDT), harry wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ITbhTu2BBQ ******* like that only go to show that all those years back Charles de Gaulle was right to try to exclude Britain. No One could understand how someone we gave so much assistance to, could reject our common market membership. Onward and upward, next stop Dublin. Thanks Brexiters, just don't come back! AB Want to know how much the harry lot are costing us? Β£100 billion, that is life in luxuary while the NHS staff get paid peanuts. 1% pay rise for the best and the opposite harry lot vermin live in paradise. No wonder so little works. Money does not enter into it at all. The racist bigot only sees things in terms of them and us. As far as his ilk are concerned, I'm proud to be one of "them". Come Brexit, I'm going to say stuff the UK. And we will be deafened by the cheering. I paid taxes into the system all my life and it certainly wasn't in order to support a select few inward looking racists. You're free to leave... People that live and work in a place are entitled to the same benefits as the rest of the population. Depends on whether they are there legally or not. Although after Brexit the true reasons for the Conservative push will become clear. Yeah, yeah, its those damned jews conspiring in smoke filled rooms to shaft us all, again... You Brexit bigots never miss a trick, do you? I don't care if Britain leaves the EU or not. You seem to based on many previous posts. What matters is that the majority who bothered to vote decided that they want Britain to leave. A very small one, and many were mislead by lies from the Brexit campaigns. Zero hour contracts and no employment protection. Even sillier than you usually manage. No. Yep. The EU has very few countries with that type of contract. Irrelevant to your stupid pig ignorant claim that the Torys are deliberately attempting to engineer those by leaving the EU. The Torys didn't even want Britain to leave the EU. They seem to now. Because that is what the majority of those who bothered to vote said they wanted to happen and the Torys always said that they would do what the majority who bothered to vote said they wanted to happen. |
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"Mark" wrote in message ... On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 13:31:01 +0100, Handsome Jack wrote: tim... posted "Cursitor Doom" wrote in message news On Sun, 23 Jul 2017 23:46:17 +0100, Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote: Ireland are planning a new second city as Dublin absorbs the financial institutions that wish to maintain an EU presence. Dream on. The Irish can plan whatever they like but they're still on the bones of their arse and will have to raise taxes pretty damn soon; economists know this well and so do the banks! If there is an exodus of banks from the City (yay good riddance!) Ireland is about the last place they'll re-settle. actually not it's higher up the list than Paris (too many restrictive employment laws, taxes too high) and Frankfurt (a cultural desert) That the French and German banks might be moving back to France and Germany They're not. France is working very strongly attract the banks. But will end up with **** all of them, you watch. There are quite a few big international banks out of the EU, not one from france. There might just be a reason for that. Same with germany. doesn't not prove that the American banks will Nobody will "move" anywhere. The most that might happen is that some banks will set up subsidiary offices in an EU member state that they might not have done before. That's quite naive. If they think they are going to get a good deal they'll relocate. But they wont get a good deal from france or germany, you watch. |
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"Ian Jackson" wrote in message ... In message , Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp writes Chlorinated chicken isn't a good idea, but that's what we'll be buying into. Although I'm a Remainer, I can see little problem with chlorinated chicken. Presumably it's effective at killing the bugs, and I guess there'll be very little chlorine in it by the time you come to eat it. On it, actually. And its fine in the water we drink anyway. |
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On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 21:29:14 +0100, bert wrote:
In article , Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp writes On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 22:39:46 +0100, Tim Streater wrote: In article , Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote: On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 21:13:46 +0100, Tim Streater wrote: In article , Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote: On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 19:42:13 +0100, Andy Burns wrote: Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote: Chlorinated chicken isn't a good idea I don't eat meat, so haven't got a cock in this fight, but ... https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/0...re-stories-fro m-remaine rs- over-chlorinated-chicken That article is misleading. It ignores a basic, fundamental fact. Properly produced, fresh meat does not need chlorine. Nice shimmy, Mr Biscuit-Barrel: you have no argument so you shift the goal posts. I think you miss the point. Chlorine kills bacteria and removes smells. Like wearing hard hats or dust masks, it is far better to remove the problem at source instead of taking precautions. Hear that chaps? We don't actually need to wear hard hats, protective glasses, or dust masks. You really don't understand the "system" do you. Basic H&S, remove the risk at source, PPE is a last resort. Not really a mystery. The most basic operator on a civil's site would grunt something in agreement. You should get out more. I think the "chaps" might be having a bit of a chuckle behind your back incidentally If chicken is produced in a clean hygenic environment, ... Good luck with that. It's chumps like you, the people that don't see the need for regulations or standards that are a risk to us all. If companies get away with food production in a fithy environment, then they can undercut the company paying skilled cleaning staff. Soon there is a shortage of honest decent suppliers, as competition isn't possible if the market is skewed by malpractice. Malpractice and filth needs chlorine. Clean, fresh produce doesn't. You mean like the irradiated salads in the super markets? Hardly clean then is it? AB Got it yet?? AB Do wish you ******s would get a news reader which follow the regulations you are so keen on. |
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"Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp" wrote in message ... On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 21:13:46 +0100, Tim Streater wrote: In article , Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote: On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 19:42:13 +0100, Andy Burns wrote: Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote: Chlorinated chicken isn't a good idea I don't eat meat, so haven't got a cock in this fight, but ... https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/0...rom-remainers- over-chlorinated-chicken That article is misleading. It ignores a basic, fundamental fact. Properly produced, fresh meat does not need chlorine. Nice shimmy, Mr Biscuit-Barrel: you have no argument so you shift the goal posts. I think you miss the point. We'll see... Chlorine kills bacteria Yes. and removes smells. Nope, it stinks very badly. Like wearing hard hats or dust masks, Nothing like in fact. it is far better to remove the problem at source instead of taking precautions. Not even possible with chickens. If chicken is produced in a clean hygenic environment, Not even possible. You do realise they **** like almost every other animal does don't you ? chlorine is an irrellevence Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage and that's saying something. and can only reduce the flavour It actually improves the flavour of the meat because it doesn't rot as much and so have the flavour of rotten meat. and quality of the finished product. Ditto. In other words it's either old stock or produced in a filthy slaughterhouse. Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage and that's saying something. |
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"Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp" wrote in message ... On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 21:11:50 +0100, Tim Streater wrote: In article , Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote: On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 19:04:58 +0100, Tim Streater wrote: In article , Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote: On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 06:49:12 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 23/07/17 23:46, Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote: Come Brexit, I'm going to say stuff the UK. Why wait? To maximise my cash in the UK I am also modifying the property I live in to make it more marketable to tenants. And when the pound has plummeted, yet before the regulatory system changes to allow the Americans and every other cheapskate country to offload their toxic carcinigenic crud on the UK, I'll be gone. Er, why would the regulatory system change to do that? And which "toxic carcinogenic crud" did you have in mind? The whole lot will change. The fishermen are getting geared up for sales of the "accidental" By catch. Maybe it didn't make the BBC, but Fox is drumming up business in the US. Hmm, I see you're suffering from verbal diarrhoea. Have you been to the doctor about it? Chlorinated chicken isn't a good idea, but that's what we'll be buying into. As has been pointed out, you get many times more chlorine from drinking water than you'll ever get from eating imported US chickens. Water shouldn't contain organic material. But does anyway if it come from a ****ing river. If it did, no water utility would dose chlorine into it. Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage and that's saying something. The organics are ALL removed prior to dosing. Not even possible if it comes from a river. Food apart, I couldn't even chlorinate final effluent due to the contamination of the organic matter. Final effluent isn't a foodstuff. Rancid American chicken portions are. It isn't rancid. D'ye need a dictionary? Of course deregulation is a wonderful tool for business, it brought us mad cow, salmonella, antibiotic resistance, E coli. Anyone got one of those white jackets with the long sleeves? The Conservatives are great at deregulation, they will play a blinder for the US business, they have a tremendous track record. Many years back, Maggie was warned what happens when you feed dead herbivores to live ones. As usual it was just red tape holding business back. The only good that ever came of it was the episode where Gummer was shown up by his daughter to be the inane useless pillock that he was. You think that a herbivore never ingested animal matter before then? Not on a commercial scale, no. Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage and that's saying something. |
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"Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp" wrote in message ... On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 20:29:16 +0100, "Richard" wrote: "Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp" wrote in message . .. On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 19:41:48 +0100, "Richard" wrote: "Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp" wrote in message m... On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 06:49:12 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 23/07/17 23:46, Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote: Come Brexit, I'm going to say stuff the UK. Why wait? To maximise my cash in the UK I am also modifying the property I live in to make it more marketable to tenants. And when the pound has plummeted, yet before the regulatory system changes to allow the Americans and every other cheapskate country to offload their toxic carcinigenic crud on the UK, I'll be gone. No you won't, unfortunately. If you were that honest about all the ******** you talk, you'd have been long gone. Sadly, the UK will have to put up with you whilst you wither and decay all the while becoming an increasing burden on the honest citizens until you finally pop yer clogs. A very reasoned argument. You work in the food industry? You work in water treatment? There were no end of thick simpletons who ignored the warnings regarding BSE also. Mr Gummer being a notable example. The risks from Chlorine contamination of organics are well documented. Again simple logic when applied provides a few clues. Many industries have gone away from chlorine to ozone for EFFLUENT treatment. Now why would they stop treating effluent with something nice and cheap like a hypo solution? Why would something deemed unfit for effluent treatment be acceptable for the food industry? I do love that instant response, going full blast with your stupid inorant "righteous" indignation. You are just another flag waving tosspot who thinks patriotism excuses the need for common sense. What's more, your ilk will dump everything of value this country has in order to do buy cheap substandard crud from the US. I sincerely hope you feel good, "making America Great Again" Am I close to being warm guessing that you don't celebrate the 4th July, Thanksgiving and don't watch American football? I use Allen Bradley PLC's and Mettler Toledo pH instruments. The food industry isn't a speciality, but the snippets I have heard about the American business approach are scary, and when it comes to food, I don't think one country should be allowed to produce and police new genetic strains without a balanced oversight. How odd that Europe has been doing that for millennia now and still does. The Irish potato famine was a prime example of what happens when people are overly dependent on a crop or a common feature of a range of crops. Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage and that's saying something. Its actually what happens with a mono culture or close and the **** hits the fan with it and it's the primary source of food. What happens when Monsanto trigger the the botanic equivalent of the WGA program? Not even possible. Unfortunately in the short term, the biggest US export will be NHS managers, they will soon be running out of customers in the states, Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage and that's saying something. and like the tobacco companies, they will have to go further afield to fleece the "fresh meat", because all of their customer base have died paupers. Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage and that's saying something. |
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"Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp" wrote in message ... On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 20:34:00 +0100, Andy Burns wrote: Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote: Andy Burns wrote: I don't eat meat, so haven't got a cock in this fight, but ... https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/07/ignore-the-scare-stories-from-remainers-over-chlorinated-chicken Chlorine is bad for the individual and bad for the environment. It's in water, and I gather salmonella isn't so good for you either. If the chlorine washed meat is as white as is claimed, I'm sure you'll be able to tell it apart from the yellow corn-fed chicken ... at a price. Give that man a kewpie doll! It is in the water, that's correct. Before it goes in the water, the water is filtered, treated with poly aluminum chloride, polyelectrolytes and often goes through a dedicated filter press Because the consumers want what looks and tastes good. prior to dosing with hypochlorate. Because it makes not sense to add that earlier, it will be ****ed by that other stuff. The catchword is organics. That's only one of the catchwords. Clean water isn't a risk, But isnt that easy to come by, particularly when its from rivers and ground water has other downsides. although it may be a good idea to break out the Colgate if the choppers are a bit on the slimy side. I was surprised really, but I heard on the news about four years or so back, that a food processing company in Birmingham was caught recycling waste chicken. They were washing rancid fillets with bleach and petting them back in the food chain. Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage and that's saying something. They were prosecuted!! Not for washing the meat in chlorine dosed water they weren't. |
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"Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp" wrote in message ... On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 19:42:13 +0100, Andy Burns wrote: Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote: Chlorinated chicken isn't a good idea I don't eat meat, so haven't got a cock in this fight, but ... https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/07/ignore-the-scare-stories-from-remainers-over-chlorinated-chicken That article is misleading. It ignores a basic, fundamental fact. Properly produced, fresh meat does not need chlorine. That is a bare faced lie with chicken. Chlorine is bad for the individual And yet its added to drinking water, deliberately. Swimming pools too. and bad for the environment. **** the environment. A considerable number of factions would be dead against these products, Because they are fools who don't have a ****ing clue. The Brexit connection simply means that products of this nature are going to flood the British market Great, that will see much less salmonella which and does kill you. without due regard for the risks. Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage. There are no risks, that's why we use it in drinking water and swimming pools. Americans are not nice when it comes to business, it's cash first and worry about the consequences after, Corse no pom operation ever does anything like that, eh ? |
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wrote: "Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp" wrote in message ... On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 20:29:16 +0100, "Richard" wrote: "Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp" wrote in message ... On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 19:41:48 +0100, "Richard" wrote: "Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp" wrote in message om... On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 06:49:12 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 23/07/17 23:46, Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote: Come Brexit, I'm going to say stuff the UK. Why wait? To maximise my cash in the UK I am also modifying the property I live in to make it more marketable to tenants. And when the pound has plummeted, yet before the regulatory system changes to allow the Americans and every other cheapskate country to offload their toxic carcinigenic crud on the UK, I'll be gone. No you won't, unfortunately. If you were that honest about all the ******** you talk, you'd have been long gone. Sadly, the UK will have to put up with you whilst you wither and decay all the while becoming an increasing burden on the honest citizens until you finally pop yer clogs. A very reasoned argument. You work in the food industry? You work in water treatment? There were no end of thick simpletons who ignored the warnings regarding BSE also. Mr Gummer being a notable example. The risks from Chlorine contamination of organics are well documented. Again simple logic when applied provides a few clues. Many industries have gone away from chlorine to ozone for EFFLUENT treatment. Now why would they stop treating effluent with something nice and cheap like a hypo solution? Why would something deemed unfit for effluent treatment be acceptable for the food industry? I do love that instant response, going full blast with your stupid inorant "righteous" indignation. You are just another flag waving tosspot who thinks patriotism excuses the need for common sense. What's more, your ilk will dump everything of value this country has in order to do buy cheap substandard crud from the US. I sincerely hope you feel good, "making America Great Again" Am I close to being warm guessing that you don't celebrate the 4th July, Thanksgiving and don't watch American football? I use Allen Bradley PLC's and Mettler Toledo pH instruments. The food industry isn't a speciality, but the snippets I have heard about the American business approach are scary, and when it comes to food, I don't think one country should be allowed to produce and police new genetic strains without a balanced oversight. How odd that Europe has been doing that for millennia now and still does. The Irish potato famine was a prime example of what happens when people are overly dependent on a crop or a common feature of a range of crops. Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage and that's saying something. Its actually what happens with a mono culture or close and the **** hits the fan with it and it's the primary source of food. What happens when Monsanto trigger the the botanic equivalent of the WGA program? Not even possible. Unfortunately in the short term, the biggest US export will be NHS managers, they will soon be running out of customers in the states, Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage and that's saying something. and like the tobacco companies, they will have to go further afield to fleece the "fresh meat", because all of their customer base have died paupers. Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage and that's saying something. In all honesty I really was getting a little passive regarding your posts. I was forming the impression that your arguments were becoming very similar in vein, in fact dare I say it, repetitive! It is with some relief that I came across the above riveting snippet. Keep it up! I think we all benefit from a bit of constructive criticism. You are saying something Rodders me old chum. You go on, assert yourself, you deserve to be heard. AB |
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On Wed, 26 Jul 2017 09:09:09 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote: "Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp" wrote in message ... On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 21:11:50 +0100, Tim Streater wrote: In article , Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote: On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 19:04:58 +0100, Tim Streater wrote: In article , Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote: On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 06:49:12 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 23/07/17 23:46, Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote: Come Brexit, I'm going to say stuff the UK. Why wait? To maximise my cash in the UK I am also modifying the property I live in to make it more marketable to tenants. And when the pound has plummeted, yet before the regulatory system changes to allow the Americans and every other cheapskate country to offload their toxic carcinigenic crud on the UK, I'll be gone. Er, why would the regulatory system change to do that? And which "toxic carcinogenic crud" did you have in mind? The whole lot will change. The fishermen are getting geared up for sales of the "accidental" By catch. Maybe it didn't make the BBC, but Fox is drumming up business in the US. Hmm, I see you're suffering from verbal diarrhoea. Have you been to the doctor about it? Chlorinated chicken isn't a good idea, but that's what we'll be buying into. As has been pointed out, you get many times more chlorine from drinking water than you'll ever get from eating imported US chickens. Water shouldn't contain organic material. But does anyway if it come from a ****ing river. If it did, no water utility would dose chlorine into it. Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage and that's saying something. The organics are ALL removed prior to dosing. Not even possible if it comes from a river. Do you have any kind of clue what you are talking about? AB Food apart, I couldn't even chlorinate final effluent due to the contamination of the organic matter. Final effluent isn't a foodstuff. Rancid American chicken portions are. It isn't rancid. D'ye need a dictionary? Of course deregulation is a wonderful tool for business, it brought us mad cow, salmonella, antibiotic resistance, E coli. Anyone got one of those white jackets with the long sleeves? The Conservatives are great at deregulation, they will play a blinder for the US business, they have a tremendous track record. Many years back, Maggie was warned what happens when you feed dead herbivores to live ones. As usual it was just red tape holding business back. The only good that ever came of it was the episode where Gummer was shown up by his daughter to be the inane useless pillock that he was. You think that a herbivore never ingested animal matter before then? Not on a commercial scale, no. Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage and that's saying something. |
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"Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp" wrote in message ... On Wed, 26 Jul 2017 09:09:09 +1000, "Rod Speed" wrote: "Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp" wrote in message ... On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 21:11:50 +0100, Tim Streater wrote: In article , Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote: On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 19:04:58 +0100, Tim Streater wrote: In article , Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote: On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 06:49:12 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 23/07/17 23:46, Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote: Come Brexit, I'm going to say stuff the UK. Why wait? To maximise my cash in the UK I am also modifying the property I live in to make it more marketable to tenants. And when the pound has plummeted, yet before the regulatory system changes to allow the Americans and every other cheapskate country to offload their toxic carcinigenic crud on the UK, I'll be gone. Er, why would the regulatory system change to do that? And which "toxic carcinogenic crud" did you have in mind? The whole lot will change. The fishermen are getting geared up for sales of the "accidental" By catch. Maybe it didn't make the BBC, but Fox is drumming up business in the US. Hmm, I see you're suffering from verbal diarrhoea. Have you been to the doctor about it? Chlorinated chicken isn't a good idea, but that's what we'll be buying into. As has been pointed out, you get many times more chlorine from drinking water than you'll ever get from eating imported US chickens. Water shouldn't contain organic material. But does anyway if it come from a ****ing river. If it did, no water utility would dose chlorine into it. Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage and that's saying something. The organics are ALL removed prior to dosing. Not even possible if it comes from a river. Do you have any kind of clue what you are talking about? He doesn't but he's an Aussie prick, make allowances. He built his own dwelling, you know - http://l7.alamy.com/zooms/9da3d6dfae...ada-d8xh4c.jpg |
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"Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp" wrote in message ... On Wed, 26 Jul 2017 09:15:10 +1000, "Rod Speed" wrote: "Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp" wrote in message ... On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 20:29:16 +0100, "Richard" wrote: "Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp" wrote in message m... On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 19:41:48 +0100, "Richard" wrote: "Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp" wrote in message news:6mccncpdrd4ka062ikijij1b5s0aji3lbj@4ax. com... On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 06:49:12 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 23/07/17 23:46, Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote: Come Brexit, I'm going to say stuff the UK. Why wait? To maximise my cash in the UK I am also modifying the property I live in to make it more marketable to tenants. And when the pound has plummeted, yet before the regulatory system changes to allow the Americans and every other cheapskate country to offload their toxic carcinigenic crud on the UK, I'll be gone. No you won't, unfortunately. If you were that honest about all the ******** you talk, you'd have been long gone. Sadly, the UK will have to put up with you whilst you wither and decay all the while becoming an increasing burden on the honest citizens until you finally pop yer clogs. A very reasoned argument. You work in the food industry? You work in water treatment? There were no end of thick simpletons who ignored the warnings regarding BSE also. Mr Gummer being a notable example. The risks from Chlorine contamination of organics are well documented. Again simple logic when applied provides a few clues. Many industries have gone away from chlorine to ozone for EFFLUENT treatment. Now why would they stop treating effluent with something nice and cheap like a hypo solution? Why would something deemed unfit for effluent treatment be acceptable for the food industry? I do love that instant response, going full blast with your stupid inorant "righteous" indignation. You are just another flag waving tosspot who thinks patriotism excuses the need for common sense. What's more, your ilk will dump everything of value this country has in order to do buy cheap substandard crud from the US. I sincerely hope you feel good, "making America Great Again" Am I close to being warm guessing that you don't celebrate the 4th July, Thanksgiving and don't watch American football? I use Allen Bradley PLC's and Mettler Toledo pH instruments. The food industry isn't a speciality, but the snippets I have heard about the American business approach are scary, and when it comes to food, I don't think one country should be allowed to produce and police new genetic strains without a balanced oversight. How odd that Europe has been doing that for millennia now and still does. The Irish potato famine was a prime example of what happens when people are overly dependent on a crop or a common feature of a range of crops. Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage and that's saying something. Its actually what happens with a mono culture or close and the **** hits the fan with it and it's the primary source of food. What happens when Monsanto trigger the the botanic equivalent of the WGA program? Not even possible. Unfortunately in the short term, the biggest US export will be NHS managers, they will soon be running out of customers in the states, Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage and that's saying something. and like the tobacco companies, they will have to go further afield to fleece the "fresh meat", because all of their customer base have died paupers. Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage and that's saying something. In all honesty I really was getting a little passive regarding your posts. I was forming the impression that your arguments were becoming very similar in vein, in fact dare I say it, repetitive! It is with some relief that I came across the above riveting snippet. Keep it up! I think we all benefit from a bit of constructive criticism. You are saying something Rodders me old chum. You go on, assert yourself, you deserve to be heard. You never could bull**** your way out of a wet paper bag. |
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"Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp" wrote in message ... On Wed, 26 Jul 2017 09:09:09 +1000, "Rod Speed" wrote: "Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp" wrote in message ... On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 21:11:50 +0100, Tim Streater wrote: In article , Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote: On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 19:04:58 +0100, Tim Streater wrote: In article , Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote: On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 06:49:12 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 23/07/17 23:46, Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote: Come Brexit, I'm going to say stuff the UK. Why wait? To maximise my cash in the UK I am also modifying the property I live in to make it more marketable to tenants. And when the pound has plummeted, yet before the regulatory system changes to allow the Americans and every other cheapskate country to offload their toxic carcinigenic crud on the UK, I'll be gone. Er, why would the regulatory system change to do that? And which "toxic carcinogenic crud" did you have in mind? The whole lot will change. The fishermen are getting geared up for sales of the "accidental" By catch. Maybe it didn't make the BBC, but Fox is drumming up business in the US. Hmm, I see you're suffering from verbal diarrhoea. Have you been to the doctor about it? Chlorinated chicken isn't a good idea, but that's what we'll be buying into. As has been pointed out, you get many times more chlorine from drinking water than you'll ever get from eating imported US chickens. Water shouldn't contain organic material. But does anyway if it come from a ****ing river. If it did, no water utility would dose chlorine into it. Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage and that's saying something. The organics are ALL removed prior to dosing. Not even possible if it comes from a river. Do you have any kind of clue what you are talking about? Yep,, unlike you. It just isnt economically feasible to get rid of all organic matter from water that comes from the sort of river that can be used as a source of water in place like Britain. Food apart, I couldn't even chlorinate final effluent due to the contamination of the organic matter. Final effluent isn't a foodstuff. Rancid American chicken portions are. It isn't rancid. D'ye need a dictionary? Of course deregulation is a wonderful tool for business, it brought us mad cow, salmonella, antibiotic resistance, E coli. Anyone got one of those white jackets with the long sleeves? The Conservatives are great at deregulation, they will play a blinder for the US business, they have a tremendous track record. Many years back, Maggie was warned what happens when you feed dead herbivores to live ones. As usual it was just red tape holding business back. The only good that ever came of it was the episode where Gummer was shown up by his daughter to be the inane useless pillock that he was. You think that a herbivore never ingested animal matter before then? Not on a commercial scale, no. Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage and that's saying something. |
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"Rod Speed" wrote in message ... You never could bull**** your way out of a wet paper bag. LMFAO It's getting a bit old now, don't you think? Why don't you **** off and fix your dwelling place? |
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On Wed, 26 Jul 2017 10:54:37 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote: "Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp" wrote in message ... On Wed, 26 Jul 2017 09:09:09 +1000, "Rod Speed" wrote: "Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp" wrote in message ... On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 21:11:50 +0100, Tim Streater wrote: In article , Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote: On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 19:04:58 +0100, Tim Streater wrote: In article , Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote: On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 06:49:12 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 23/07/17 23:46, Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote: Come Brexit, I'm going to say stuff the UK. Why wait? To maximise my cash in the UK I am also modifying the property I live in to make it more marketable to tenants. And when the pound has plummeted, yet before the regulatory system changes to allow the Americans and every other cheapskate country to offload their toxic carcinigenic crud on the UK, I'll be gone. Er, why would the regulatory system change to do that? And which "toxic carcinogenic crud" did you have in mind? The whole lot will change. The fishermen are getting geared up for sales of the "accidental" By catch. Maybe it didn't make the BBC, but Fox is drumming up business in the US. Hmm, I see you're suffering from verbal diarrhoea. Have you been to the doctor about it? Chlorinated chicken isn't a good idea, but that's what we'll be buying into. As has been pointed out, you get many times more chlorine from drinking water than you'll ever get from eating imported US chickens. Water shouldn't contain organic material. But does anyway if it come from a ****ing river. If it did, no water utility would dose chlorine into it. Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage and that's saying something. The organics are ALL removed prior to dosing. Not even possible if it comes from a river. Do you have any kind of clue what you are talking about? Yep,, unlike you. It just isnt economically feasible to get rid of all organic matter from water that comes from the sort of river that can be used as a source of water in place like Britain. Idiot! Food apart, I couldn't even chlorinate final effluent due to the contamination of the organic matter. Final effluent isn't a foodstuff. Rancid American chicken portions are. It isn't rancid. D'ye need a dictionary? Of course deregulation is a wonderful tool for business, it brought us mad cow, salmonella, antibiotic resistance, E coli. Anyone got one of those white jackets with the long sleeves? The Conservatives are great at deregulation, they will play a blinder for the US business, they have a tremendous track record. Many years back, Maggie was warned what happens when you feed dead herbivores to live ones. As usual it was just red tape holding business back. The only good that ever came of it was the episode where Gummer was shown up by his daughter to be the inane useless pillock that he was. You think that a herbivore never ingested animal matter before then? Not on a commercial scale, no. Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage and that's saying something. |
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On Wed, 26 Jul 2017 10:52:45 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote: "Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp" wrote in message ... On Wed, 26 Jul 2017 09:15:10 +1000, "Rod Speed" wrote: "Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp" wrote in message ... On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 20:29:16 +0100, "Richard" wrote: "Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp" wrote in message om... On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 19:41:48 +0100, "Richard" wrote: "Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp" wrote in message news:6mccncpdrd4ka062ikijij1b5s0aji3lbj@4ax .com... On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 06:49:12 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 23/07/17 23:46, Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote: Come Brexit, I'm going to say stuff the UK. Why wait? To maximise my cash in the UK I am also modifying the property I live in to make it more marketable to tenants. And when the pound has plummeted, yet before the regulatory system changes to allow the Americans and every other cheapskate country to offload their toxic carcinigenic crud on the UK, I'll be gone. No you won't, unfortunately. If you were that honest about all the ******** you talk, you'd have been long gone. Sadly, the UK will have to put up with you whilst you wither and decay all the while becoming an increasing burden on the honest citizens until you finally pop yer clogs. A very reasoned argument. You work in the food industry? You work in water treatment? There were no end of thick simpletons who ignored the warnings regarding BSE also. Mr Gummer being a notable example. The risks from Chlorine contamination of organics are well documented. Again simple logic when applied provides a few clues. Many industries have gone away from chlorine to ozone for EFFLUENT treatment. Now why would they stop treating effluent with something nice and cheap like a hypo solution? Why would something deemed unfit for effluent treatment be acceptable for the food industry? I do love that instant response, going full blast with your stupid inorant "righteous" indignation. You are just another flag waving tosspot who thinks patriotism excuses the need for common sense. What's more, your ilk will dump everything of value this country has in order to do buy cheap substandard crud from the US. I sincerely hope you feel good, "making America Great Again" Am I close to being warm guessing that you don't celebrate the 4th July, Thanksgiving and don't watch American football? I use Allen Bradley PLC's and Mettler Toledo pH instruments. The food industry isn't a speciality, but the snippets I have heard about the American business approach are scary, and when it comes to food, I don't think one country should be allowed to produce and police new genetic strains without a balanced oversight. How odd that Europe has been doing that for millennia now and still does. The Irish potato famine was a prime example of what happens when people are overly dependent on a crop or a common feature of a range of crops. Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage and that's saying something. Its actually what happens with a mono culture or close and the **** hits the fan with it and it's the primary source of food. What happens when Monsanto trigger the the botanic equivalent of the WGA program? Not even possible. Unfortunately in the short term, the biggest US export will be NHS managers, they will soon be running out of customers in the states, Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage and that's saying something. and like the tobacco companies, they will have to go further afield to fleece the "fresh meat", because all of their customer base have died paupers. Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage and that's saying something. In all honesty I really was getting a little passive regarding your posts. I was forming the impression that your arguments were becoming very similar in vein, in fact dare I say it, repetitive! It is with some relief that I came across the above riveting snippet. Keep it up! I think we all benefit from a bit of constructive criticism. You are saying something Rodders me old chum. You go on, assert yourself, you deserve to be heard. You never could bull**** your way out of a wet paper bag. If you say so Rodders me old chum. Once again, many thanks for the input. Onward and Upward Old bean. AB |
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"Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp" wrote in message ... On Wed, 26 Jul 2017 10:54:37 +1000, "Rod Speed" wrote: "Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp" wrote in message ... On Wed, 26 Jul 2017 09:09:09 +1000, "Rod Speed" wrote: "Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp" wrote in message ... On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 21:11:50 +0100, Tim Streater wrote: In article , Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote: On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 19:04:58 +0100, Tim Streater wrote: In article , Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote: On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 06:49:12 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 23/07/17 23:46, Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote: Come Brexit, I'm going to say stuff the UK. Why wait? To maximise my cash in the UK I am also modifying the property I live in to make it more marketable to tenants. And when the pound has plummeted, yet before the regulatory system changes to allow the Americans and every other cheapskate country to offload their toxic carcinigenic crud on the UK, I'll be gone. Er, why would the regulatory system change to do that? And which "toxic carcinogenic crud" did you have in mind? The whole lot will change. The fishermen are getting geared up for sales of the "accidental" By catch. Maybe it didn't make the BBC, but Fox is drumming up business in the US. Hmm, I see you're suffering from verbal diarrhoea. Have you been to the doctor about it? Chlorinated chicken isn't a good idea, but that's what we'll be buying into. As has been pointed out, you get many times more chlorine from drinking water than you'll ever get from eating imported US chickens. Water shouldn't contain organic material. But does anyway if it come from a ****ing river. If it did, no water utility would dose chlorine into it. Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage and that's saying something. The organics are ALL removed prior to dosing. Not even possible if it comes from a river. Do you have any kind of clue what you are talking about? Yep,, unlike you. It just isnt economically feasible to get rid of all organic matter from water that comes from the sort of river that can be used as a source of water in place like Britain. Idiot! ****wit!! And even a terminal ****wit such as yourself should have noticed that its even more completely impossible to get rid of any organics in swimming pools and that once you have drunk the water out of the ****ing tap, it might just be in contact with lots of organics. Same with when you take a ****ing shower or bath. Food apart, I couldn't even chlorinate final effluent due to the contamination of the organic matter. Final effluent isn't a foodstuff. Rancid American chicken portions are. It isn't rancid. D'ye need a dictionary? Of course deregulation is a wonderful tool for business, it brought us mad cow, salmonella, antibiotic resistance, E coli. Anyone got one of those white jackets with the long sleeves? The Conservatives are great at deregulation, they will play a blinder for the US business, they have a tremendous track record. Many years back, Maggie was warned what happens when you feed dead herbivores to live ones. As usual it was just red tape holding business back. The only good that ever came of it was the episode where Gummer was shown up by his daughter to be the inane useless pillock that he was. You think that a herbivore never ingested animal matter before then? Not on a commercial scale, no. Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage and that's saying something. |
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"Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp" wrote in message ... On Wed, 26 Jul 2017 10:52:45 +1000, "Rod Speed" wrote: "Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp" wrote in message ... On Wed, 26 Jul 2017 09:15:10 +1000, "Rod Speed" wrote: "Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp" wrote in message ... On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 20:29:16 +0100, "Richard" wrote: "Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp" wrote in message news:rhgcnc19dlvposl63ue8862b52s340j4oh@4ax. com... On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 19:41:48 +0100, "Richard" wrote: "Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp" wrote in message news:6mccncpdrd4ka062ikijij1b5s0aji3lbj@4a x.com... On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 06:49:12 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 23/07/17 23:46, Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote: Come Brexit, I'm going to say stuff the UK. Why wait? To maximise my cash in the UK I am also modifying the property I live in to make it more marketable to tenants. And when the pound has plummeted, yet before the regulatory system changes to allow the Americans and every other cheapskate country to offload their toxic carcinigenic crud on the UK, I'll be gone. No you won't, unfortunately. If you were that honest about all the ******** you talk, you'd have been long gone. Sadly, the UK will have to put up with you whilst you wither and decay all the while becoming an increasing burden on the honest citizens until you finally pop yer clogs. A very reasoned argument. You work in the food industry? You work in water treatment? There were no end of thick simpletons who ignored the warnings regarding BSE also. Mr Gummer being a notable example. The risks from Chlorine contamination of organics are well documented. Again simple logic when applied provides a few clues. Many industries have gone away from chlorine to ozone for EFFLUENT treatment. Now why would they stop treating effluent with something nice and cheap like a hypo solution? Why would something deemed unfit for effluent treatment be acceptable for the food industry? I do love that instant response, going full blast with your stupid inorant "righteous" indignation. You are just another flag waving tosspot who thinks patriotism excuses the need for common sense. What's more, your ilk will dump everything of value this country has in order to do buy cheap substandard crud from the US. I sincerely hope you feel good, "making America Great Again" Am I close to being warm guessing that you don't celebrate the 4th July, Thanksgiving and don't watch American football? I use Allen Bradley PLC's and Mettler Toledo pH instruments. The food industry isn't a speciality, but the snippets I have heard about the American business approach are scary, and when it comes to food, I don't think one country should be allowed to produce and police new genetic strains without a balanced oversight. How odd that Europe has been doing that for millennia now and still does. The Irish potato famine was a prime example of what happens when people are overly dependent on a crop or a common feature of a range of crops. Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage and that's saying something. Its actually what happens with a mono culture or close and the **** hits the fan with it and it's the primary source of food. What happens when Monsanto trigger the the botanic equivalent of the WGA program? Not even possible. Unfortunately in the short term, the biggest US export will be NHS managers, they will soon be running out of customers in the states, Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage and that's saying something. and like the tobacco companies, they will have to go further afield to fleece the "fresh meat", because all of their customer base have died paupers. Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage and that's saying something. In all honesty I really was getting a little passive regarding your posts. I was forming the impression that your arguments were becoming very similar in vein, in fact dare I say it, repetitive! It is with some relief that I came across the above riveting snippet. Keep it up! I think we all benefit from a bit of constructive criticism. You are saying something Rodders me old chum. You go on, assert yourself, you deserve to be heard. You never could bull**** your way out of a wet paper bag. If you say so Rodders me old chum. Once again, many thanks for the input. Onward and Upward Old bean. You never could bull**** your way out of a wet paper bag. Ireland is just what you need. |
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tim... wrote: They certainly will if the reason they chose London as a head office was to give access to the EU. no, it wasn't - only 15% of business of these banks is with the EU, and when they came it was far less. Right - so an increasing share of their business is to be thrown away? What you would need to know is what percentage of their business comes from being based in the UK, rather than the EU. -- *Heart attacks... God's revenge for eating his animal friends Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , tim... wrote: They certainly will if the reason they chose London as a head office was to give access to the EU. no, it wasn't - only 15% of business of these banks is with the EU, and when they came it was far less. Right - so an increasing share of their business is to be thrown away? It's not being "thrown away". It's being traded for a different set of benefits What you would need to know is what percentage of their business comes from being based in the UK, rather than the EU. As the banks chose to base themselves in the UK, all of it tim |
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"Rod Speed" wrote in message ... "Ian Jackson" wrote in message ... In message , Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp writes Chlorinated chicken isn't a good idea, but that's what we'll be buying into. Although I'm a Remainer, I can see little problem with chlorinated chicken. Presumably it's effective at killing the bugs, and I guess there'll be very little chlorine in it by the time you come to eat it. On it, actually. And its fine in the water we drink anyway. It might not kill me but the taste is most certainly not "fine" tim |
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On 25/07/17 21:38, tim... wrote:
"Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp" wrote in message ... On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 20:53:24 +0100, Andy Burns wrote: Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote: I bet the pet food skips in the States are going to be seriously depleted soon. Like the Spanish ones? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-40624073 The difference is it's illegal in the EU. the difference is they were selling "not fit for human consumption" meat the fact that it was horse was incidental, Some countries openly sell horse meat, and others in pies hidden in the small print of the ingredients, as I discovered in The Netherlands tim I really like horsemeat. -- it should be clear by now to everyone that activist environmentalism (or environmental activism) is becoming a general ideology about humans, about their freedom, about the relationship between the individual and the state, and about the manipulation of people under the guise of a 'noble' idea. It is not an honest pursuit of 'sustainable development,' a matter of elementary environmental protection, or a search for rational mechanisms designed to achieve a healthy environment. Yet things do occur that make you shake your head and remind yourself that you live neither in Joseph Stalins Communist era, nor in the Orwellian utopia of 1984. Vaclav Klaus |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" posted
In article , tim... wrote: They certainly will if the reason they chose London as a head office was to give access to the EU. no, it wasn't - only 15% of business of these banks is with the EU, and when they came it was far less. Right - so an increasing share of their business is to be thrown away? No business will be thrown away. UK-based banks will continue to do business with customers in EU member states. -- Jack |
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