short washing machine drain hose
 

Well after finally getting our new Siemens IQ washing machine delivered in
one piece, at the 4th attempt, we've ran into another problem! The drain
hose is to short to reach our sinks siphon. Its the bog standard 1.5m, why
they make them so short god only knows the standard length for a fill hose
seems to be 2.5m. The machine isn't very far from the sink but the hose has
to go around a corner, and typically, its on the wrong side of the machine
so it has to go around the back of the machine as well , all this means it
doesn't reach. Well it does reach if you stretch it but its then very
tight.

Anyway anybody got any ideas? You can buy longer hoses but I can fit a new
one to the machine, so I'm thinking of extending the current one with a bit
of 21mm waste pipe, another drain hose and some jubilee clips.

Kerry

short washing machine drain hose
 

Kerry you can get extensions from most shops, they normally come with a
cable clip to ensure the join is tight.

Only a few quid.

"Kerry Hoskin" wrote in message
...
Well after finally getting our new Siemens IQ washing machine delivered in
one piece, at the 4th attempt, we've ran into another problem! The drain
hose is to short to reach our sinks siphon. Its the bog standard 1.5m,
why
they make them so short god only knows the standard length for a fill hose
seems to be 2.5m. The machine isn't very far from the sink but the hose
has
to go around a corner, and typically, its on the wrong side of the machine
so it has to go around the back of the machine as well , all this means it
doesn't reach. Well it does reach if you stretch it but its then very
tight.

Anyway anybody got any ideas? You can buy longer hoses but I can fit a
new
one to the machine, so I'm thinking of extending the current one with a
bit
of 21mm waste pipe, another drain hose and some jubilee clips.

Kerry

short washing machine drain hose
 

I've not managed to track an extension down anywhere

"PhilÅ" wrote in message
...
Kerry you can get extensions from most shops, they normally come with a
cable clip to ensure the join is tight.

Only a few quid.

"Kerry Hoskin" wrote in message
...
Well after finally getting our new Siemens IQ washing machine delivered
in
one piece, at the 4th attempt, we've ran into another problem! The
drain
hose is to short to reach our sinks siphon. Its the bog standard 1.5m,
why
they make them so short god only knows the standard length for a fill
hose
seems to be 2.5m. The machine isn't very far from the sink but the hose
has
to go around a corner, and typically, its on the wrong side of the
machine
so it has to go around the back of the machine as well , all this means
it
doesn't reach. Well it does reach if you stretch it but its then very
tight.

Anyway anybody got any ideas? You can buy longer hoses but I can fit a
new
one to the machine, so I'm thinking of extending the current one with a
bit
of 21mm waste pipe, another drain hose and some jubilee clips.

Kerry

short washing machine drain hose
 

In article , Kerry Hoskin
writes

Anyway anybody got any ideas? You can buy longer hoses but I can fit a new
one to the machine, so I'm thinking of extending the current one with a bit
of 21mm waste pipe, another drain hose and some jubilee clips.

A word of warning: if the drain hose is that corrugated plastic stuff,
it's quite hard to join it without leaks.

I first tried jubilee clips, which didn't work because water just leaked
past the crushed corrugations in the pipe, then resorted to hot-melt
glue to fill in the gaps between the cavities in the hose and the
coupler, finally wrapping the whole joint in tape. That worked, but
the coupler reduced the bore of the pipe, meaning the machine took
longer to empty. The coupler also frequently got blocked with crap
(this was on a dishwasher) and eventually I got fed up and replaced the
entire hose with a longer one.

short washing machine drain hose
 

"Kerry Hoskin" wrote in message
...
Well after finally getting our new Siemens IQ washing machine
delivered in
one piece, at the 4th attempt, we've ran into another problem! The
drain
hose is to short to reach our sinks siphon. Its the bog standard
1.5m, why
they make them so short god only knows the standard length for a
fill hose
seems to be 2.5m.

Washing machine outlet hoses should not go into a sink syphon, but
into a 1.5" standpipe, as per most instruction books. There are
several good reasons for this, including to prevent waste water/grease
from the sink, flowing back into the machine, also any restrictions in
the pipe, i.e. the joint where it attaches to the syphon, provides the
perfect place for a loose button/any build up of fluff etc. to block
the hose, and cause problems later on.
If a connector with a non return valve is used, this is worse than
ever, as it will block 10 times as quick.

short washing machine drain hose
 

Kerry

Goto

www.plumbworld.co.uk

the site uses sessions so ..

Click search at the bottom and search for "KINK"

you will get a
Washing Machine Non Kink Drain Hose 1.5 M x 21 mm
They are about £1.50, just also buy a clip to tighten the connection.



"Kerry Hoskin" wrote in message
...
I've not managed to track an extension down anywhere

"PhilÅ" wrote in message
...
Kerry you can get extensions from most shops, they normally come with a
cable clip to ensure the join is tight.

Only a few quid.

"Kerry Hoskin" wrote in message
...
Well after finally getting our new Siemens IQ washing machine
delivered
in
one piece, at the 4th attempt, we've ran into another problem! The
drain
hose is to short to reach our sinks siphon. Its the bog standard
1.5m,
why
they make them so short god only knows the standard length for a fill
hose
seems to be 2.5m. The machine isn't very far from the sink but the
hose
has
to go around a corner, and typically, its on the wrong side of the
machine
so it has to go around the back of the machine as well , all this
means
it
doesn't reach. Well it does reach if you stretch it but its then very
tight.

Anyway anybody got any ideas? You can buy longer hoses but I can fit
a
new
one to the machine, so I'm thinking of extending the current one with
a
bit
of 21mm waste pipe, another drain hose and some jubilee clips.

Kerry

short washing machine drain hose
 

Gavin Gillespie wrote:


Washing machine outlet hoses should not go into a sink syphon, but
into a 1.5" standpipe, as per most instruction books. There are
several good reasons for this, including to prevent waste water/grease
from the sink, flowing back into the machine, also any restrictions in
the pipe, i.e. the joint where it attaches to the syphon, provides the
perfect place for a loose button/any build up of fluff etc. to block
the hose, and cause problems later on.
If a connector with a non return valve is used, this is worse than
ever, as it will block 10 times as quick.

If you must use a washing machine without a proper filter than I suppose
you're right :)
The non return valve on the end of our machine's 2.5m waste hose has not
blocked in the 3 years it has been there...

Lee


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short washing machine drain hose
 

I had this problem with our dish washer. The corrugated hose started
leaking.
Easy fix was to use PVC solvent - the glue used on PVC pipes.
Works a treat. No tape, clips or clamps.

"Mike Tomlinson" wrote in message
...
In article , Kerry Hoskin
writes

Anyway anybody got any ideas? You can buy longer hoses but I can fit a
new
one to the machine, so I'm thinking of extending the current one with a
bit
of 21mm waste pipe, another drain hose and some jubilee clips.

A word of warning: if the drain hose is that corrugated plastic stuff,
it's quite hard to join it without leaks.

I first tried jubilee clips, which didn't work because water just leaked
past the crushed corrugations in the pipe, then resorted to hot-melt
glue to fill in the gaps between the cavities in the hose and the
coupler, finally wrapping the whole joint in tape. That worked, but
the coupler reduced the bore of the pipe, meaning the machine took
longer to empty. The coupler also frequently got blocked with crap
(this was on a dishwasher) and eventually I got fed up and replaced the
entire hose with a longer one.

short washing machine drain hose
 

yeah this is what I was affraid of happening, I might give Siemens a call
tomorrow and see if they do a longer hose


Kerry



"Mike Tomlinson" wrote in message
...
In article , Kerry Hoskin
writes

Anyway anybody got any ideas? You can buy longer hoses but I can fit a
new
one to the machine, so I'm thinking of extending the current one with a
bit
of 21mm waste pipe, another drain hose and some jubilee clips.

A word of warning: if the drain hose is that corrugated plastic stuff,
it's quite hard to join it without leaks.

I first tried jubilee clips, which didn't work because water just leaked
past the crushed corrugations in the pipe, then resorted to hot-melt
glue to fill in the gaps between the cavities in the hose and the
coupler, finally wrapping the whole joint in tape. That worked, but
the coupler reduced the bore of the pipe, meaning the machine took
longer to empty. The coupler also frequently got blocked with crap
(this was on a dishwasher) and eventually I got fed up and replaced the
entire hose with a longer one.

short washing machine drain hose
 

"Kerry Hoskin" wrote in message ...
Well after finally getting our new Siemens IQ washing machine delivered in
one piece, at the 4th attempt, we've ran into another problem! The drain
hose is to short to reach our sinks siphon. Its the bog standard 1.5m, why
they make them so short god only knows the standard length for a fill hose
seems to be 2.5m. The machine isn't very far from the sink but the hose has
to go around a corner, and typically, its on the wrong side of the machine
so it has to go around the back of the machine as well , all this means it
doesn't reach. Well it does reach if you stretch it but its then very
tight.

Anyway anybody got any ideas? You can buy longer hoses but I can fit a new
one to the machine, so I'm thinking of extending the current one with a bit
of 21mm waste pipe, another drain hose and some jubilee clips.

Kerry

Kerry,

Had this problem more than once and generally reolve it by
jubilee'ing an extension onto the original hose and never had any
problem. However this is not generally recommended by the
manufacturer's ? due to backdrainage. I would read your instructions
carefully on this as regards invalidating warranty.

The 'proper' solution would be to extended your existing waste to a
stand pipe and to drain into there.

hope this helps

short washing machine drain hose
 

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Kerry Hoskin wrote:

I've not managed to track an extension down anywhere


It might be a case of Mahomet and the mountain!

If you can't get your washing machine to the drain, have you thought of
bringing the drain to the washing machine. If you mount a standpipe next to
the machine, with a trap at the bottom and outlet going out through the wall
to the same gulley as serves the kitchen sink, that should solve your
problem with the existing outlet hose.
--
Cheers,
Set Square
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Please reply to newsgroup. Reply address is Black Hole!

short washing machine drain hose
 

"Lee Blaver" wrote in message
...
Gavin Gillespie wrote:


Washing machine outlet hoses should not go into a sink syphon, but
into a 1.5" standpipe, as per most instruction books. There are
several good reasons for this, including to prevent waste
water/grease
from the sink, flowing back into the machine, also any
restrictions in
the pipe, i.e. the joint where it attaches to the syphon, provides
the
perfect place for a loose button/any build up of fluff etc. to
block
the hose, and cause problems later on.
If a connector with a non return valve is used, this is worse than
ever, as it will block 10 times as quick.

If you must use a washing machine without a proper filter than I
suppose
you're right :)
The non return valve on the end of our machine's 2.5m waste hose has
not
blocked in the 3 years it has been there...


But most washing machines made now, do not have a fine filter, (more
of a coin trap), so any small items are supposed to be flushed through
the hose, which is OK if the hose is not restricted. Most of the
blockages at non return valves that I attended, had actually had the
'valve' removed by plumbers when fitting, but they had left the valve
fitting assembly (a bit like a cross gun sight), and these would often
block. One woman that I visited, would regularly pour hot chip fat
down the sink, this would flow down the washing machine outlet hose,
and solidify in the pipe, it must have cost her more than the machine
in repairs, but she never moaned about it.

short washing machine drain hose
 

Gavin Gillespie wrote:
snip

But most washing machines made now, do not have a fine filter, (more
of a coin trap), so any small items are supposed to be flushed through
the hose, which is OK if the hose is not restricted. Most of the
blockages at non return valves that I attended, had actually had the
'valve' removed by plumbers when fitting, but they had left the valve
fitting assembly (a bit like a cross gun sight), and these would often
block. One woman that I visited, would regularly pour hot chip fat
down the sink, this would flow down the washing machine outlet hose,
and solidify in the pipe, it must have cost her more than the machine
in repairs, but she never moaned about it.

I see what you mean, although we don't pour fat (or food), down the sink
anyway :)

One thing to remember is that using a spigot above the waste trap on a
sink means that it is quite noisy when the machine empties, I guess
you'd need a very quiet machine to notice though :)

Lee
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short washing machine drain hose
 

Lee Blaver wrote in message ...
Gavin Gillespie wrote:


Washing machine outlet hoses should not go into a sink syphon, but
into a 1.5" standpipe, as per most instruction books. There are
several good reasons for this, including to prevent waste water/grease
from the sink, flowing back into the machine, also any restrictions in
the pipe, i.e. the joint where it attaches to the syphon, provides the
perfect place for a loose button/any build up of fluff etc. to block
the hose, and cause problems later on.
If a connector with a non return valve is used, this is worse than
ever, as it will block 10 times as quick.

If you must use a washing machine without a proper filter than I suppose
you're right :)
The non return valve on the end of our machine's 2.5m waste hose has not
blocked in the 3 years it has been there...

Lee

indeed mines been installed for about 4 years - and not a blockage in
sight. In fact we just changed our washing machine last week and I
took the opportunity to check the non-return valve, and it was a clean
as the I installed it

short washing machine drain hose
 

There are hoses on www.domestic-appliance-spares.co.uk
under washers...universal...hoses.

Less than a tenner, which will most likely be cheaper than Siemens.

Stu


"Kerry Hoskin" wrote in message ...
yeah this is what I was affraid of happening, I might give Siemens a call
tomorrow and see if they do a longer hose


Kerry



"Mike Tomlinson" wrote in message
...
In article , Kerry Hoskin
writes

Anyway anybody got any ideas? You can buy longer hoses but I can fit a
new
one to the machine, so I'm thinking of extending the current one with a
bit
of 21mm waste pipe, another drain hose and some jubilee clips.

A word of warning: if the drain hose is that corrugated plastic stuff,
it's quite hard to join it without leaks.

I first tried jubilee clips, which didn't work because water just leaked
past the crushed corrugations in the pipe, then resorted to hot-melt
glue to fill in the gaps between the cavities in the hose and the
coupler, finally wrapping the whole joint in tape. That worked, but
the coupler reduced the bore of the pipe, meaning the machine took
longer to empty. The coupler also frequently got blocked with crap
(this was on a dishwasher) and eventually I got fed up and replaced the
entire hose with a longer one.