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steve July 23rd 03 01:06 PM

Building an internal wall - brick or stud?
 
I need to build an internal wall (non load bearing) in a basement room to
create a bathroom area. This will be between two parallel walls and will be
approx 2-3m in length by 3m height. In the middle I will need to position a
doorway into the new bathroom area.

What I need to find out is the most cost/time effective way of building the
wall.
An influencing factor is that I already have enough bricks in the basement
to build the wall. Only problem is my brick laying skills aren`t exactly top
dollar. I could do it but it would take me ages and the wall would probably
end up being wonky.
I would need a fair amount of mortar if I went this route but presumably it
would be far cheeper that building a stud frame & then
insulate/plasterboard/plaster?
The positive side with a stud frame/plasterboard is that it could probably
be built quick..

thoughts?
TIA
Steve



IMM July 23rd 03 01:10 PM

Building an internal wall - brick or stud?
 

"steve" wrote in message
...
I need to build an internal wall (non load bearing) in a basement room to
create a bathroom area. This will be between two parallel walls and will

be
approx 2-3m in length by 3m height. In the middle I will need to position

a
doorway into the new bathroom area.

What I need to find out is the most cost/time effective way of building

the
wall.
An influencing factor is that I already have enough bricks in the basement
to build the wall. Only problem is my brick laying skills aren`t exactly

top
dollar. I could do it but it would take me ages and the wall would

probably
end up being wonky.
I would need a fair amount of mortar if I went this route but presumably

it
would be far cheeper that building a stud frame & then
insulate/plasterboard/plaster?
The positive side with a stud frame/plasterboard is that it could probably
be built quick..


Stud, with insulation/soundproofing and Fermacell pre-finished drylining.
No wet skills at all.
http://www.fermacell.co.uk




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Christian McArdle July 23rd 03 01:52 PM

Building an internal wall - brick or stud?
 
I would need a fair amount of mortar if I went this route but
presumably it would be far cheeper that building a stud frame
& then insulate/plasterboard/plaster?


But building a stud partition is very quick and almost free by most DIY
standards. You'll need about 10 3m lengths of 75x50 and 6 sheets of
plasterboard. You'll also need some nails. That lot will be about 50 quid.
The expensive bit is doing the door, frame and furniture, which you'll have
to do with the brick wall anyway. I suppose you'll need some way of getting
the plasterboard home, though. My minibus with roof rails means I never need
to think about such things.

Plasterboarding is much simpler than the wet plastering you're intending to
do on the brick wall. There's not normally a need to insulate an internal
wall, although it can be beneficial in some circumstances.

Christian.



IMM July 23rd 03 02:01 PM

Building an internal wall - brick or stud?
 

"Christian McArdle" wrote in message
. net...
I would need a fair amount of mortar if I went this route but
presumably it would be far cheeper that building a stud frame
& then insulate/plasterboard/plaster?


But building a stud partition is very quick and almost free by most DIY
standards. You'll need about 10 3m lengths of 75x50 and 6 sheets of
plasterboard. You'll also need some nails. That lot will be about 50 quid.
The expensive bit is doing the door, frame and furniture, which you'll

have
to do with the brick wall anyway. I suppose you'll need some way of

getting
the plasterboard home, though. My minibus with roof rails means I never

need
to think about such things.

Plasterboarding is much simpler than the wet plastering you're intending

to
do on the brick wall. There's not normally a need to insulate an internal
wall,


With a bathroom and toilet there is. Fermacell drylining means no wet
skills whatsoever. Just using filler for the screws and boards joints.



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Adrian M. July 23rd 03 10:35 PM

Building an internal wall - brick or stud?
 
"Adrian M." wrote in message
...
"IMM" wrote in message
...

With a bathroom and toilet there is. Fermacell drylining means no wet
skills whatsoever. Just using filler for the screws and boards joints.


Make sure you have a helper though as they're heavy - I'm using some 3m *
1.2m * 12.5mm boards ( which I had to carry up 2 flights of stairs ). A
sheet this size is approx 65 kilos.

Adrian.


Correction, I've since checked and they're 54 kilos but feel like 65 by the
time you get to the top of the stairs...



parish July 24th 03 01:13 AM

Building an internal wall - brick or stud?
 
Christian McArdle wrote:

Plasterboarding is much simpler than the wet plastering you're intending to
do on the brick wall.


Dry-lining?


Christian McArdle July 24th 03 09:40 AM

Building an internal wall - brick or stud?
 
Dry-lining?

By the time you've drylined a brick wall, it'll be several inches wider than
a standard stud partition and even harder to screw things to.

Christian.




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