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Magnetic limescale inhibitors - useful or carp?
The plumber is about to fit one in our new place on a combi boiler. Do these
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Robert Irwin wrote:
The plumber is about to fit one in our new place on a combi boiler. Do these work or should I tell him to send it back and get a chemical one? Google this group for an answer - this comes up very frequently. -- Grunff |
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On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 00:50:54 -0000, "Robert Irwin"
catfishpcAThotmailDOTcom wrote: The plumber is about to fit one in our new place on a combi boiler. Do these work or should I tell him to send it back and get a chemical one? Robert No and yes. ..andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
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"Robert Irwin" catfishpcAThotmailDOTcom wrote in message
The plumber is about to fit one in our new place on a combi boiler. Do these work or should I tell him to send it back and get a chemical one? I don't believe anyone in their right mind has ever tried fishing with magnets. Maggots though... -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG |
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On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 00:54:49 +0000, Grunff wrote:
Robert Irwin wrote: The plumber is about to fit one in our new place on a combi boiler. Do these work or should I tell him to send it back and get a chemical one? Google this group for an answer - this comes up very frequently. Is there anything fishy about this thread? -- Ed Sirett - Property maintainer and registered gas fitter. The FAQ for uk.diy is at www.diyfaq.org.uk Gas fitting FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFitting.html Sealed CH FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/SealedCH.html |
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Robert Irwin wrote:
The plumber is about to fit one in our new place on a combi boiler. Do these work or should I tell him to send it back and get a chemical one? Tell him to take it away and throw it down the bin. Robert |
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"Robert Irwin" catfishpcAThotmailDOTcom wrote in message ... The plumber is about to fit one in our new place on a combi boiler. Do these work or should I tell him to send it back and get a chemical one? I have one on a combi and it works. --- -- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.561 / Virus Database: 353 - Release Date: 13/01/2004 |
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On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 17:02:26 -0000, "IMM" wrote:
"Robert Irwin" catfishpcAThotmailDOTcom wrote in message t... The plumber is about to fit one in our new place on a combi boiler. Do these work or should I tell him to send it back and get a chemical one? I have one on a combi and it works. The combi. --- ..andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
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"Andy Hall" wrote in message ... On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 17:02:26 -0000, "IMM" wrote: "Robert Irwin" catfishpcAThotmailDOTcom wrote in message t... The plumber is about to fit one in our new place on a combi boiler. Do these work or should I tell him to send it back and get a chemical one? I have one on a combi and it works. The combi. Both. --- -- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.561 / Virus Database: 353 - Release Date: 13/01/2004 |
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"Michael McNeil" wrote in message news:d1b5f841ab2e5b9149809bb507dda204.45219@mygate .mailgate.org... "Robert Irwin" catfishpcAThotmailDOTcom wrote in message The plumber is about to fit one in our new place on a combi boiler. Do these work or should I tell him to send it back and get a chemical one? I don't believe anyone in their right mind has ever tried fishing with magnets. Maggots though... Mine is an electronic one and it works. All the top water softeners people make them,. Even Fernox make one. If they did not work these companies would not risk their reputation. Works a treat. Highly recommended. http://www.fernox.com/whatsnew/main_ewc.htm Which says: "Fernox Electronic Water Conditioner Fernox has recently launched the solution to limescale in the home. The Fernox Electronic Water Conditioner, an electronic scale-reducing device protects your system against the damaging effects of limescale that can result in boiler or hot water cylinder failure. Using the latest micro-processor technology the unit produces a complex modulating frequency waveform which causes the calcium carbonate to form clusters. This way it remains in suspension and does not accumulate inside the hot water cylinder or boiler, ensuring the system runs at peak efficiency and saving on heating costs. Not only does the Electronic Water Conditioner prevent the build-up of further hard scale, it also dissolves existing scale, which will be flushed from your system. Guaranteed for 5 years the Fernox Water Conditioner offers long term protection for the home." Also: One, the WaterImp, is even "endorsed" by the Chemical Engineering Dept. at Bath University, http://www.waterimp.co.uk/scientific.html Also: DPS at: http://www.heatweb.com Recommend the Water King electronic de-scaling box Eco-Hometec (made by MAN) make one of the finest boilers around, in the RR class, Andy hall will tell you all about it, yet as Simon Stroud on this ng, who bought one, said..."One small issue when dealing with Eco-Hometec was their apparent keenness for "electronic" water conditioners." Top makers of heat banks/cylinder and boilers recommend electronic. They recommend them as "in the field" they are known to work. And my Aqua-Dial electronic descaler, who make phosphor descalers and full salt softeners, still works. --- -- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.561 / Virus Database: 353 - Release Date: 13/01/2004 |
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On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 17:41:43 -0000, "IMM" wrote:
"Michael McNeil" wrote in message news:d1b5f841ab2e5b9149809bb507dda204.45219@mygat e.mailgate.org... "Robert Irwin" catfishpcAThotmailDOTcom wrote in message The plumber is about to fit one in our new place on a combi boiler. Do these work or should I tell him to send it back and get a chemical one? I don't believe anyone in their right mind has ever tried fishing with magnets. Maggots though... Mine is an electronic one and it works. All the top water softeners people make them,. Even Fernox make one. I rather doubt if they are in the electronics business, Almost certainly they resell something designed and made by someone else. Also: One, the WaterImp, is even "endorsed" by the Chemical Engineering Dept. at Bath University, http://www.waterimp.co.uk/scientific.html That is stretching it. The company also repeatedly says that water is "capricious". WHat kind of science is that? There is inconsistency. "Our units are not softeners. They are conditioners" "In a very short time, approximately four weeks, you will notice the water begins to feel softer. Taps, shower roses and other outlets gradually lose their coating of scale. Lather will increase and the use of detergents will be reduced." These last two claims are chemically impossible. Also: DPS at: http://www.heatweb.com Recommend the Water King electronic de-scaling box Eco-Hometec (made by MAN) make one of the finest boilers around, in the RR class, Andy hall will tell you all about it, yet as Simon Stroud on this ng, who bought one, said..."One small issue when dealing with Eco-Hometec was their apparent keenness for "electronic" water conditioners." Not when I spoke to them. The recommendation was phosphor dosing or ion exchange softening. ..andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
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"Andy Hall" wrote in message news On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 17:41:43 -0000, "IMM" wrote: "Michael McNeil" wrote in message news:d1b5f841ab2e5b9149809bb507dda204.45219@mygat e.mailgate.org... "Robert Irwin" catfishpcAThotmailDOTcom wrote in message The plumber is about to fit one in our new place on a combi boiler. Do these work or should I tell him to send it back and get a chemical one? I don't believe anyone in their right mind has ever tried fishing with magnets. Maggots though... Mine is an electronic one and it works. All the top water softeners people make them,. Even Fernox make one. I rather doubt if they are in the electronics business, Almost certainly they resell something designed and made by someone else. If it didn't work, hey would not sell one. They have a reputation to look after. Also: One, the WaterImp, is even "endorsed" by the Chemical Engineering Dept. at Bath University, http://www.waterimp.co.uk/scientific.html That is stretching it. The company also repeatedly says that water is "capricious". WHat kind of science is that? There is inconsistency. "Our units are not softeners. They are conditioners" "In a very short time, approximately four weeks, you will notice the water begins to feel softer. Taps, shower roses and other outlets gradually lose their coating of scale. Lather will increase and the use of detergents will be reduced." These last two claims are chemically impossible. Also: DPS at: http://www.heatweb.com Recommend the Water King electronic de-scaling box Eco-Hometec (made by MAN) make one of the finest boilers around, in the RR class, Andy hall will tell you all about it, yet as Simon Stroud on this ng, who bought one, said..."One small issue when dealing with Eco-Hometec was their apparent keenness for "electronic" water conditioners." Not when I spoke to them. The recommendation was phosphor dosing or ion exchange softening. --- -- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.561 / Virus Database: 353 - Release Date: 13/01/2004 |
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IMM wrote:
"Robert Irwin" catfishpcAThotmailDOTcom wrote in message ... The plumber is about to fit one in our new place on a combi boiler. Do these work or should I tell him to send it back and get a chemical one? I have one on a combi and it works. It helps him hear the voices in his head you know. Its that good. Really. --- -- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.561 / Virus Database: 353 - Release Date: 13/01/2004 |
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"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... IMM wrote: "Robert Irwin" catfishpcAThotmailDOTcom wrote in message ... The plumber is about to fit one in our new place on a combi boiler. Do these work or should I tell him to send it back and get a chemical one? I have one on a combi and it works. It helps him hear the voices in his head you know. Its that good. Really. Have you ever wound the wires of one of these around your head? --- -- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.561 / Virus Database: 353 - Release Date: 14/01/2004 |
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Robert Irwin wrote:
The plumber is about to fit one in our new place on a combi boiler. Do these work or should I tell him to send it back and get a chemical one? Robert They don't work unless you believe in magic and alchemy. |
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"BillR" wrote in message ... Robert Irwin wrote: The plumber is about to fit one in our new place on a combi boiler. Do these work or should I tell him to send it back and get a chemical one? Robert They don't work unless you believe in magic and alchemy. Mine works. --- -- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.561 / Virus Database: 353 - Release Date: 13/01/2004 |
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"IMM" wrote in message ... "BillR" wrote in message ... Robert Irwin wrote: The plumber is about to fit one in our new place on a combi boiler. Do these work or should I tell him to send it back and get a chemical one? Robert They don't work unless you believe in magic and alchemy. Mine works. ...........well it is an electronic box, not a magnet. --- -- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.561 / Virus Database: 353 - Release Date: 13/01/2004 |
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On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 11:51:26 -0000, "IMM" wrote:
"BillR" wrote in message ... Robert Irwin wrote: The plumber is about to fit one in our new place on a combi boiler. Do these work or should I tell him to send it back and get a chemical one? Robert They don't work unless you believe in magic and alchemy. Mine works. Point made then. --- ..andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
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"Andy Hall" wrote in message ... On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 11:51:26 -0000, "IMM" wrote: "BillR" wrote in message ... Robert Irwin wrote: The plumber is about to fit one in our new place on a combi boiler. Do these work or should I tell him to send it back and get a chemical one? Robert They don't work unless you believe in magic and alchemy. Mine works. Point made then. LOL, boiled beef and carrots, boiled beef and carrots... --- -- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.561 / Virus Database: 353 - Release Date: 13/01/2004 |
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IMM wrote:
"BillR" wrote in message ... Robert Irwin wrote: The plumber is about to fit one in our new place on a combi boiler. Do these work or should I tell him to send it back and get a chemical one? Robert They don't work unless you believe in magic and alchemy. Mine works. QED. :-) |
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"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... IMM wrote: "BillR" wrote in message ... Robert Irwin wrote: The plumber is about to fit one in our new place on a combi boiler. Do these work or should I tell him to send it back and get a chemical one? Robert They don't work unless you believe in magic and alchemy. Mine works. QED. LOL, so funny and all that. --- -- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.561 / Virus Database: 353 - Release Date: 13/01/2004 |
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Robert Irwin wrote:
The plumber is about to fit one in our new place on a combi boiler. Do these work or should I tell him to send it back and get a chemical one? First of 2004? Here we go!!! |
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They MIGHT work in low hardwater areas, but where we are, these electronic devices achieved no water softening effect at all. Useless!On Sunday, 18 January 2004 19:01:08 UTC, Andy Hall wrote:
On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 17:41:43 -0000, "IMM" wrote: "Michael McNeil" wrote in message news:d1b5f841ab2e5b9149809bb507dda204.45219@mygat e.mailgate.org... "Robert Irwin" catfishpcAThotmailDOTcom wrote in message The plumber is about to fit one in our new place on a combi boiler. Do these work or should I tell him to send it back and get a chemical one? I don't believe anyone in their right mind has ever tried fishing with magnets. Maggots though... Mine is an electronic one and it works. All the top water softeners people make them,. Even Fernox make one. I rather doubt if they are in the electronics business, Almost certainly they resell something designed and made by someone else. Also: One, the WaterImp, is even "endorsed" by the Chemical Engineering Dept. at Bath University, http://www.waterimp.co.uk/scientific.html That is stretching it. The company also repeatedly says that water is "capricious". WHat kind of science is that? There is inconsistency. "Our units are not softeners. They are conditioners" "In a very short time, approximately four weeks, you will notice the water begins to feel softer. Taps, shower roses and other outlets gradually lose their coating of scale. Lather will increase and the use of detergents will be reduced." These last two claims are chemically impossible. Also: DPS at: http://www.heatweb.com Recommend the Water King electronic de-scaling box Eco-Hometec (made by MAN) make one of the finest boilers around, in the RR class, Andy hall will tell you all about it, yet as Simon Stroud on this ng, who bought one, said..."One small issue when dealing with Eco-Hometec was their apparent keenness for "electronic" water conditioners." Not when I spoke to them. The recommendation was phosphor dosing or ion exchange softening. .andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
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On 07/04/2013 14:33, wrote:
They MIGHT work in low hardwater areas, but where we are, these electronic devices achieved no water softening effect at all. Useless!On Sunday, 18 January 2004 19:01:08 UTC, Andy Hall wrote: On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 17:41:43 -0000, "IMM" wrote: only 9 years late ;-) -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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I understood that they do not reduce the content, I mean how can they, they
tend to make the particlles clump and one supposes that this will only be effective if there are not too many of them! Brian -- From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active wrote in message ... They MIGHT work in low hardwater areas, but where we are, these electronic devices achieved no water softening effect at all. Useless!On Sunday, 18 January 2004 19:01:08 UTC, Andy Hall wrote: On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 17:41:43 -0000, "IMM" wrote: "Michael McNeil" wrote in message news:d1b5f841ab2e5b9149809bb507dda204.45219@mygat e.mailgate.org... "Robert Irwin" catfishpcAThotmailDOTcom wrote in message The plumber is about to fit one in our new place on a combi boiler. Do these work or should I tell him to send it back and get a chemical one? I don't believe anyone in their right mind has ever tried fishing with magnets. Maggots though... Mine is an electronic one and it works. All the top water softeners people make them,. Even Fernox make one. I rather doubt if they are in the electronics business, Almost certainly they resell something designed and made by someone else. Also: One, the WaterImp, is even "endorsed" by the Chemical Engineering Dept. at Bath University, http://www.waterimp.co.uk/scientific.html That is stretching it. The company also repeatedly says that water is "capricious". WHat kind of science is that? There is inconsistency. "Our units are not softeners. They are conditioners" "In a very short time, approximately four weeks, you will notice the water begins to feel softer. Taps, shower roses and other outlets gradually lose their coating of scale. Lather will increase and the use of detergents will be reduced." These last two claims are chemically impossible. Also: DPS at: http://www.heatweb.com Recommend the Water King electronic de-scaling box Eco-Hometec (made by MAN) make one of the finest boilers around, in the RR class, Andy hall will tell you all about it, yet as Simon Stroud on this ng, who bought one, said..."One small issue when dealing with Eco-Hometec was their apparent keenness for "electronic" water conditioners." Not when I spoke to them. The recommendation was phosphor dosing or ion exchange softening. .andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
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Exactly like the technology.
One particular unit claims bit things for an alternating hf current in a coil. It is so annoying that it screws up radio reception for several hhouses near it, and of course it don't work neither. If there was any validity in this, then in the intervening years they would have been developed surely? Brian -- From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active "John Rumm" wrote in message o.uk... On 07/04/2013 14:33, wrote: They MIGHT work in low hardwater areas, but where we are, these electronic devices achieved no water softening effect at all. Useless!On Sunday, 18 January 2004 19:01:08 UTC, Andy Hall wrote: On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 17:41:43 -0000, "IMM" wrote: only 9 years late ;-) -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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replying to IMM, Scott wrote:
Vulcan anti-limescale systems have been servicing industry for over 40 years and have systems capable of treating up to 1 meter diameter pipes with references I have a Vulcan V5000 installed for over 5 years and the results are impressive Not cheap but worth the investment as the average lifespan is 30 years -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/uk-diy...arp-49083-.htm |
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