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Frisket January 5th 04 12:26 PM

Bosch dishwasher problem
 
Hi all, Happy New Year! (possibly)
We've got a Bosch dishwasher that's stopped emptying. The dial on the front
still goes round and when it gets to the point where it should pump out it
sounds like normal but the water doesn't go away. I've removed the filter
block and frigged the door interlock so it runs and carefully stuck one of
my pinkies down the drain hole to what feels like the pump and it's not
moving (though it is free to turn). Don't know the model number but it's
only about 2 years old and it's one of the 450mm wide ones if that helps.
Any ideas? It'll be a royal pain to get out from under the unit if necessary
as I'll have to lift the laminate flooring (long story, don't ask) but I
thought I'd try you guys (and dolls) before resorting to a kitchen refit.
TIA, Richard



Christian McArdle January 5th 04 01:44 PM

Bosch dishwasher problem
 
We've got a Bosch dishwasher that's stopped emptying.

I can't help you directly. However, a Bosch dishwasher should still be
working after 2 years as it is regarded as a premium product. You'd probably
have a reasonable claim under your statutory rights from the retailer even
if the guarantee has expired, provided the machine hasn't been abused.

Christian.



N January 5th 04 02:19 PM

Bosch dishwasher problem
 
We have exactly the same problem with our Bosch dishwasher which "gave up
the ghost" at 18 months old!!!! It is also 450mm wide.

You can buy a replacement pump for £22 from Bosch however it is an absolute
nightmare to get at and fix. Therefore, the machine is sitting in my
kitchen untouched at the moment.

Incidentally, the machines now have a 2 year guarantee!!!!
It's a shame I didn't wait a couple of months before buying - I would have
saved myself the huge amount of cash that I will probably have to fork out
to get someone to repair it!

As you can imagine the wife is none to pleased.

N


"Frisket" wrote in message
...
Hi all, Happy New Year! (possibly)
We've got a Bosch dishwasher that's stopped emptying. The dial on the

front
still goes round and when it gets to the point where it should pump out it
sounds like normal but the water doesn't go away. I've removed the filter
block and frigged the door interlock so it runs and carefully stuck one of
my pinkies down the drain hole to what feels like the pump and it's not
moving (though it is free to turn). Don't know the model number but it's
only about 2 years old and it's one of the 450mm wide ones if that helps.
Any ideas? It'll be a royal pain to get out from under the unit if

necessary
as I'll have to lift the laminate flooring (long story, don't ask) but I
thought I'd try you guys (and dolls) before resorting to a kitchen refit.
TIA, Richard





Christian McArdle January 5th 04 02:37 PM

Bosch dishwasher problem
 
We have exactly the same problem with our Bosch dishwasher which
"gave up the ghost" at 18 months old!!!! It is also 450mm wide.

Incidentally, the machines now have a 2 year guarantee!!!!


Again, you probably have a claim under statutory rights against the retailer
(not the manufacturer). This is not a dodgy make bought from a market
trader, but a premium product. With two people in a small newsgroup with the
same problem, it sounds like a manufacturing or design defect to me.

Christian.




Nick Finnigan January 5th 04 04:25 PM

Bosch dishwasher problem
 
"Frisket" wrote in message
...

We've got a Bosch dishwasher that's stopped emptying.


moving (though it is free to turn). Don't know the model number but it's
only about 2 years old and it's one of the 450mm wide ones if that helps.


Model number is likely to be etched onto the
stainless steel on the top edge of the door. SPS...



Lee Blaver January 5th 04 04:57 PM

Bosch dishwasher problem
 
Nick Finnigan wrote:

"Frisket" wrote in message
...


We've got a Bosch dishwasher that's stopped emptying.



moving (though it is free to turn). Don't know the model number but it's
only about 2 years old and it's one of the 450mm wide ones if that helps.



Model number is likely to be etched onto the
stainless steel on the top edge of the door. SPS...


Can you post the model number please, just in case we have the same
model... :)
Although ours,which is around 2 years old,
is still working ok at the moment...

Lee
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Nick Finnigan January 5th 04 05:41 PM

Bosch dishwasher problem
 
"Lee Blaver" wrote in message
...

Can you post the model number please, just in case we have the same
model... :)
Although ours,which is around 2 years old,
is still working ok at the moment...


Mine is SPS5462GB, and has only needed
replacement basket wheels (upper).




Lee Blaver January 5th 04 06:15 PM

Bosch dishwasher problem
 
Nick Finnigan wrote:

"Lee Blaver" wrote in message
...

Can you post the model number please, just in case we have the same
model... :)
Although ours,which is around 2 years old,
is still working ok at the moment...



Mine is SPS5462GB, and has only needed
replacement basket wheels (upper).


Ours is a SRS4012 450mm model, it hasn't needed anything yet...
I was just interested to see if there was a problem with the 450mm ones.

Lee

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N January 5th 04 06:20 PM

Bosch dishwasher problem
 
Ours is an SRS5612GB (Bosch Exxcel) but the mechanics of most of the models
are the same.

This model is identical, to look at, as the SRS43E02 currently on sale in
the shops - the slim line one - 8/9 place settings not 12. It is 45cm wide
not 60cm.

Hopefully the 60cm models will have a better pump fitted.

N

"Lee Blaver" wrote in message
...
Nick Finnigan wrote:

"Frisket" wrote in message
...


We've got a Bosch dishwasher that's stopped emptying.



moving (though it is free to turn). Don't know the model number but it's
only about 2 years old and it's one of the 450mm wide ones if that

helps.


Model number is likely to be etched onto the
stainless steel on the top edge of the door. SPS...


Can you post the model number please, just in case we have the same
model... :)
Although ours,which is around 2 years old,
is still working ok at the moment...

Lee
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Frisket January 8th 04 08:28 PM

Bosch dishwasher problem
 

"Frisket" wrote in message news:...
Hi all, Happy New Year! (possibly)
We've got a Bosch dishwasher that's stopped emptying. The dial on the

front
still goes round and when it gets to the point where it should pump out it
sounds like normal but the water doesn't go away. I've removed the filter
block and frigged the door interlock so it runs and carefully stuck one of
my pinkies down the drain hole to what feels like the pump and it's not
moving (though it is free to turn). Don't know the model number but it's
only about 2 years old and it's one of the 450mm wide ones if that helps.
Any ideas? It'll be a royal pain to get out from under the unit if

necessary
as I'll have to lift the laminate flooring (long story, don't ask) but I
thought I'd try you guys (and dolls) before resorting to a kitchen refit.
TIA, Richard

Thanks for the replies and sorry it's taken so long to come back.
It's a 4012 model for those collecting numbers ;-)
Outcome:-
Lifted the laminate flooring (boo-hoo) and dragged the machine out. Couldn't
find my torx bits so had a trip to b&q and got SWMBO to part with enough
gold to buy a set (complete with various drill bits, sockets etc - well you
never know when they'll come in handy he-he). Got the top off with a few
well aimed blows from a rubber mallet. Removed the sides and found that the
pump I could feel down the drain hole is in fact the one that does the
circulating TOP TIP if you frig the door interlock on a dishwasher and set
it running make sure the programmers set to pump out and not to wash. You
wouldn't believe 1. How fast the arms go round & 2. How far the water will
go from said arms when the door is open.
Placed gob over end of hose and blew hard. Nothing seemed to happen but when
I turned it back on the bloody thing emptied and has been ok ever since...
Don't think there was a blockage as I emptied it into a bowl and had a good
look - NICE!
Rebuilt it, replaced it and kicked it. Just the laminate flooring to replace
this weekend (after I've modified the cupboard it lives in so it'll sit on
top of the flooring).
Once again thanks,
Regards, Richard



N January 8th 04 09:34 PM

Bosch dishwasher problem
 
Richard

Interesting, you sorted it by blowing down the outlet hose? I will have to
try that for mine! If the pump down the drainhole does the circulating, is
there another pump for the emptying if so where is it? I have had the top,
sides, bottom off mine but didn't spot another pump.

PS how do you frig the door interlock?

Thanks

N
"Frisket" wrote in message
...

"Frisket" wrote in message news:...
Hi all, Happy New Year! (possibly)
We've got a Bosch dishwasher that's stopped emptying. The dial on the

front
still goes round and when it gets to the point where it should pump out

it
sounds like normal but the water doesn't go away. I've removed the

filter
block and frigged the door interlock so it runs and carefully stuck one

of
my pinkies down the drain hole to what feels like the pump and it's not
moving (though it is free to turn). Don't know the model number but it's
only about 2 years old and it's one of the 450mm wide ones if that

helps.
Any ideas? It'll be a royal pain to get out from under the unit if

necessary
as I'll have to lift the laminate flooring (long story, don't ask) but I
thought I'd try you guys (and dolls) before resorting to a kitchen

refit.
TIA, Richard

Thanks for the replies and sorry it's taken so long to come back.
It's a 4012 model for those collecting numbers ;-)
Outcome:-
Lifted the laminate flooring (boo-hoo) and dragged the machine out.

Couldn't
find my torx bits so had a trip to b&q and got SWMBO to part with enough
gold to buy a set (complete with various drill bits, sockets etc - well

you
never know when they'll come in handy he-he). Got the top off with a few
well aimed blows from a rubber mallet. Removed the sides and found that

the
pump I could feel down the drain hole is in fact the one that does the
circulating TOP TIP if you frig the door interlock on a dishwasher and

set
it running make sure the programmers set to pump out and not to wash. You
wouldn't believe 1. How fast the arms go round & 2. How far the water will
go from said arms when the door is open.
Placed gob over end of hose and blew hard. Nothing seemed to happen but

when
I turned it back on the bloody thing emptied and has been ok ever since...
Don't think there was a blockage as I emptied it into a bowl and had a

good
look - NICE!
Rebuilt it, replaced it and kicked it. Just the laminate flooring to

replace
this weekend (after I've modified the cupboard it lives in so it'll sit on
top of the flooring).
Once again thanks,
Regards, Richard





Lee Blaver January 8th 04 11:11 PM

Bosch dishwasher problem
 

Thanks for the replies and sorry it's taken so long to come back.
It's a 4012 model for those collecting numbers ;-)


Hey, it's good enough for trainspotters ;)

That's the model we have as well....

snip
Placed gob over end of hose and blew hard. Nothing seemed to happen but when
I turned it back on the bloody thing emptied and has been ok ever since...
Don't think there was a blockage as I emptied it into a bowl and had a good
look - NICE!
Rebuilt it, replaced it and kicked it.


Noted, and saved for future reference.

Except the bit about the laminate, we tiled the entire floor before we
fitted the base units and the appliances - it just seemed like a good
idea ;)

Lee
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Capitol January 9th 04 12:23 AM

Bosch dishwasher problem
 

I wonder if the problem was the shaft of the pump sticking. From memory, I
think that the outlet pump is a shaded pole motor type, and these have no
significant starting torque. If you are in a hard water area, there may be
scale build up around the bearings.
Just a thought
Regards
Capitol



Frisket January 9th 04 03:39 PM

Bosch dishwasher problem
 

"N" wrote in message
...
Richard

Interesting, you sorted it by blowing down the outlet hose? I will have to
try that for mine! If the pump down the drainhole does the circulating, is
there another pump for the emptying if so where is it? I have had the top,
sides, bottom off mine but didn't spot another pump.

PS how do you frig the door interlock?

Thanks

N


Hi N,
To frig the door interlock insert a knife in the door slot where the tongue
on the top frame should go. There is a catch that kind of revolves away from
you until it clicks into place - sounds like double-dutch but if you try it
you'll see what I mean ;-)
As for the location of the other pump I dunno, once I'd blown down the pipe
and it worked I couldn't get the bugger back together fast enough!!
Regards,
Richard



Frisket January 9th 04 03:41 PM

Bosch dishwasher problem
 

"Capitol" wrote in message
...

I wonder if the problem was the shaft of the pump sticking. From memory, I
think that the outlet pump is a shaded pole motor type, and these have no
significant starting torque. If you are in a hard water area, there may be
scale build up around the bearings.
Just a thought
Regards
Capitol

Wondered if it was something along those lines myself but water doesn't get
any softer than ours so maybe we've a dodgy pole or there was some small
blockage that broke up?
Regards,
Richard



N January 11th 04 05:42 PM

Bosch dishwasher problem
 
Well I managed to frig the interlock but tried blowing hard down the outlet
pipe. No luck for me so back to square one. Thanks for the tips though.
"Frisket" wrote in message
...

"N" wrote in message
...
Richard

Interesting, you sorted it by blowing down the outlet hose? I will have

to
try that for mine! If the pump down the drainhole does the circulating,

is
there another pump for the emptying if so where is it? I have had the

top,
sides, bottom off mine but didn't spot another pump.

PS how do you frig the door interlock?

Thanks

N


Hi N,
To frig the door interlock insert a knife in the door slot where the

tongue
on the top frame should go. There is a catch that kind of revolves away

from
you until it clicks into place - sounds like double-dutch but if you try

it
you'll see what I mean ;-)
As for the location of the other pump I dunno, once I'd blown down the

pipe
and it worked I couldn't get the bugger back together fast enough!!
Regards,
Richard





Richard Henshall January 15th 04 02:07 AM

Bosch dishwasher problem
 
"Frisket" wrote in message ...
"Frisket" wrote in message news:...
Thanks for the replies and sorry it's taken so long to come back.
It's a 4012 model for those collecting numbers ;-)
Outcome:-
Lifted the laminate flooring (boo-hoo) and dragged the machine out. Couldn't
find my torx bits so had a trip to b&q and got SWMBO to part with enough
gold to buy a set (complete with various drill bits, sockets etc - well you
never know when they'll come in handy he-he). Got the top off with a few
well aimed blows from a rubber mallet. Removed the sides and found that the
pump I could feel down the drain hole is in fact the one that does the
circulating TOP TIP if you frig the door interlock on a dishwasher and set
it running make sure the programmers set to pump out and not to wash. You
wouldn't believe 1. How fast the arms go round & 2. How far the water will
go from said arms when the door is open.
Placed gob over end of hose and blew hard. Nothing seemed to happen but when
I turned it back on the bloody thing emptied and has been ok ever since...
Don't think there was a blockage as I emptied it into a bowl and had a good
look - NICE!
Rebuilt it, replaced it and kicked it. Just the laminate flooring to replace
this weekend (after I've modified the cupboard it lives in so it'll sit on
top of the flooring).
Once again thanks,
Regards, Richard


I have just bought an SGS 5002 dishwasher very cheap because it had
stopped working. After reading this thread and checking the
http://www.bshappliancecare.com/bshspares.html site (thanks, Federica)
I got exploded parts diagrams etc. and as a last resort called their
service and got to speak to an engineer about my problem.

The problem was that the machine would go some way into a cycle and
then stop, continuing to make pumping noises, as if blocked. This had
apparently begun soon after a re-charge of salt into the softener by
the previous owners. My problem was solved by realising that they had
loosened the nut securing the softener to the bottom of the machine
(causing a steady leak) instead of just the cap. The base of this
Bosch is a water-tight plastic tray which is fitted with a flood
prevention float switch (if there is sufficient leakage the cycle
stops immediately and attempts to drain). Until the base is emptied
this will continue indefinitely.

Perhaps some have had a similar problem and the solution has been to
empty (accidentally) the base when removing the machine for
inspection?

Another possible cause for erratic behaviour that has occurred to me
is that the presence of spilt salt granules could jam the pump until
the salt dissolves - ie after the machine has been dismantled!

Good luck everyone!

[email protected] December 7th 14 11:05 AM

Bosch dishwasher problem
 
Can not get it to work its flashing the time

Tim Watts[_3_] December 7th 14 11:45 AM

Bosch dishwasher problem
 
On 07/12/14 11:05, wrote:
Can not get it to work its flashing the time


Can you be more specific - model? What happened just prior to this?

Another John December 7th 14 11:49 AM

Bosch dishwasher problem
 
In article ,
wrote:

Can not get it to work its flashing the time


Have you looked at the user guide?

Brian Gaff[_2_] December 7th 14 12:53 PM

Bosch dishwasher problem
 
Well, its either bust or won't work till its had the time set, or maybe
both.

I hate dishwashers in other peoples houses, they never work.
Brian

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Can not get it to work its flashing the time




Phil L December 7th 14 03:52 PM

Bosch dishwasher problem
 

wrote in message
...
Can not get it to work its flashing the time


Too many details, it would have been better if you'd simply said, 'kitchen
appliance knackered- what do?'



The Other John[_4_] December 7th 14 06:09 PM

Bosch dishwasher problem
 
On Sun, 07 Dec 2014 03:05:15 -0800, maryconnolly2000 wrote:

Can not get it to work its flashing the time


Switch it off at the mains socket, wait 30 seconds, switch on again.
Works for PCs! ;)

--

TOJ.

Jonathan December 7th 14 07:19 PM

Bosch dishwasher problem
 
On Monday, January 5, 2004 12:29:23 PM UTC, Frisket wrote:
Hi all, Happy New Year! (possibly)
We've got a Bosch dishwasher that's stopped emptying. The dial on the front
still goes round and when it gets to the point where it should pump out it
sounds like normal but the water doesn't go away. I've removed the filter
block and frigged the door interlock so it runs and carefully stuck one of
my pinkies down the drain hole to what feels like the pump and it's not
moving (though it is free to turn). Don't know the model number but it's
only about 2 years old and it's one of the 450mm wide ones if that helps.
Any ideas? It'll be a royal pain to get out from under the unit if necessary
as I'll have to lift the laminate flooring (long story, don't ask) but I
thought I'd try you guys (and dolls) before resorting to a kitchen refit.
TIA, Richard


Mine had that problem. Turned out a guest had broken a glass and then removed the filter so bits of broken glass were stopping the pump. Easy to solve once you knew the problem.

Jonathan

Scott M December 7th 14 08:51 PM

Bosch dishwasher problem
 
Jonathan wrote:

On Monday, January 5, 2004 12:29:23 PM UTC, Frisket wrote:


Hi all, Happy New Year! (possibly) We've got a Bosch dishwasher
that's stopped emptying. The dial on the front still goes round and
when it gets to the point where it should pump out it sounds like


[snip]

Mine had that problem. Turned out a guest had broken a glass and then
removed the filter so bits of broken glass were stopping the pump.
Easy to solve once you knew the problem.

Jonathan


Awwww, shame. If you'd waited another month it would have been 11 whole
years, rather than just the 10.

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Scott

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