Hi, excuse the subject line, i bought the QUICKSILVER® PRODRIVE®
SELECTION PACK SCREWS from screwfix and have got to be honest have
thrown more out than i have used, it seems that the heads are to soft
so just round off, As anyone bought decent screws from screwfix if so
which ones.

thanks

Steve

SJ wrote:

As anyone bought decent screws from screwfix if so
which ones.

13887

--
Ben Blaney
Must try harder

SJ wrote:

Hi, excuse the subject line, i bought the QUICKSILVER® PRODRIVE®
SELECTION PACK SCREWS from screwfix and have got to be honest have
thrown more out than i have used, it seems that the heads are to soft
so just round off, As anyone bought decent screws from screwfix if so
which ones.

They used to do the Spax Torx drive screws. Twin thread, with
serrations on the last few threads. Superb screws. They stopped
doing them, so I now buy them from Axminster.

Once you try them, you will never use other screws.

--
Grunff

Ben Blaney wrote:
SJ wrote:

As anyone bought decent screws from screwfix if so
which ones.

13887

Well, there was this very enthusiastic girl called Catherine... but that was
2003, can't remember 2002.

The Turbogold trade pack, they self-start very well but can split thin wood
if you are being lazy. The 70mm ones go in all the way before the torque
limiter kicks in unlike some other types which start to tighten up half way
in.
You do tend to end up with lightly shredded fingertips.

--
Toby.

'One day son, all this will be finished'

i've used them a lot and there very good, how ever I have had a couple
of heads snap off when undoing them

Andrew


Toby wrote:

Ben Blaney wrote:

SJ wrote:


As anyone bought decent screws from screwfix if so
which ones.

13887


Well, there was this very enthusiastic girl called Catherine... but that was
2003, can't remember 2002.

The Turbogold trade pack, they self-start very well but can split thin wood
if you are being lazy. The 70mm ones go in all the way before the torque
limiter kicks in unlike some other types which start to tighten up half way
in.
You do tend to end up with lightly shredded fingertips.


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"SJ" wrote in message
...
Hi, excuse the subject line, i bought the QUICKSILVER® PRODRIVE®
SELECTION PACK SCREWS from screwfix and have got to be honest have
thrown more out than i have used, it seems that the heads are to soft
so just round off, As anyone bought decent screws from screwfix if so
which ones.

thanks

Steve

Today I put in about 4 boxes of 3.5"x10 quicksilver screws, only a few were
a problem down the angle I was driving at. Are you sure you are using the
right size/type bit? I've also used the turbo gold screws in anger (1000+)
and they seem pretty good.

Tony

"SJ" wrote in message
...
Hi, excuse the subject line, i bought the QUICKSILVER® PRODRIVE®
SELECTION PACK SCREWS from screwfix and have got to be honest have
thrown more out than i have used, it seems that the heads are to soft
so just round off, As anyone bought decent screws from screwfix if so
which ones.


I always buy the Turbogold screws. Never had any problems at all. Good for
use outside as well. I have a couple of gates I made 2 years ago that are
held together with them, still as new.

Are you using the right size driver profile? The majority of screw sizes you
need a PZ2 driver bit, but in all cases use the PZ profile.

Dave

Huge wrote:

Boy, is the next owner of your house going to curse you!

Why do you say that?

(BTW - no amount of cursing he/she does could ever match my
cursing of the previous owners...)

--
Grunff

On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 15:29:34 +0000, SJ wrote:

Hi, excuse the subject line, i bought the QUICKSILVER® PRODRIVE®
SELECTION PACK SCREWS from screwfix and have got to be honest have
thrown more out than i have used, it seems that the heads are to soft
so just round off, As anyone bought decent screws from screwfix if so
which ones.

I use the Screwfix screws you refer to frequently - haven't had much
to complain about.

Are you sure you've got the correct screwdriver?

PoP

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Grunff wrote:
Huge wrote:

Boy, is the next owner of your house going to curse you!


Why do you say that?

How many folks have even seen Torq heads, let alone possess a set of
drivers ?

Steve

On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 15:56:12 UTC, Grunff wrote:

SJ wrote:

Hi, excuse the subject line, i bought the QUICKSILVER® PRODRIVE®
SELECTION PACK SCREWS from screwfix and have got to be honest have
thrown more out than i have used, it seems that the heads are to soft
so just round off, As anyone bought decent screws from screwfix if so
which ones.

They used to do the Spax Torx drive screws. Twin thread, with
serrations on the last few threads. Superb screws. They stopped
doing them, so I now buy them from Axminster.

Once you try them, you will never use other screws.

I agree. Didn't know you could get them there...got my last lot from
B&Q!

--
Bob Eager
rde at tavi.co.uk
PC Server 325*4; PS/2s 9585, 8595, 9595*2, 8580*3,
P70...

SJ wrote:

Hello SJ

S| Hi, excuse the subject line, i bought the QUICKSILVER®
S| PRODRIVE® SELECTION PACK SCREWS from screwfix and have got
S| to be honest have thrown more out than i have used, it seems
S| that the heads are to soft so just round off, As anyone
S| bought decent screws from screwfix if so which ones.

Buy a decent driver bit!

Screwfix Gold or Diamond Posi2 tips are recommended. Last for ages.
Generic or even branded stuff just doesn't last and will round off PDQ
especially in a power driver.

The only issue I have with screwfix screws, and I've bought a LOT, is
the occasional infilled head - perhaps 1/1000. And then only when
you're at the top of a ladder and only took just enough screws with
you so you've got to go back down to get another.

--
Simon Avery, Dartmoor, UK
uk.d-i-y FAQ: http://www.diyfaq.org.uk/

Steve wrote:

How many folks have even seen Torq heads, let alone possess a set of
drivers ?

Pretty much anyone who's ever worked on a car made in the last
10 years.

And even if they haven't, it's not exactly difficult to get hold
of them. If somone isn't resourceful enough to get hold of them,
then should they really be using a screwdriver?

--
Grunff

On 3 Jan 2004 18:48:45 GMT, "Bob Eager" wrote:

On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 15:56:12 UTC, Grunff wrote:

SJ wrote:

Hi, excuse the subject line, i bought the QUICKSILVER® PRODRIVE®
SELECTION PACK SCREWS from screwfix and have got to be honest have
thrown more out than i have used, it seems that the heads are to soft
so just round off, As anyone bought decent screws from screwfix if so
which ones.

They used to do the Spax Torx drive screws. Twin thread, with
serrations on the last few threads. Superb screws. They stopped
doing them, so I now buy them from Axminster.

Once you try them, you will never use other screws.

I agree. Didn't know you could get them there...got my last lot from
B&Q!

Axminster do a bulk pack of Spax in a steel case plus three large
boxes of wall plugs as a pretty good deal.


..andy

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On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 20:50:55 UTC, Andy Hall wrote:

Axminster do a bulk pack of Spax in a steel case plus three large
boxes of wall plugs as a pretty good deal.

Will take a look...thanks.
--
Bob Eager
rde at tavi.co.uk
PC Server 325*4; PS/2s 9585, 8595, 9595*2, 8580*3,
P70...

Huge wrote:

No-one owns Torx screwdrivers. Except you.

Really? Maybe I'm out of touch - but most bit sets, even those
containing 3 pozi, 3 flat and 3 philips seem to have a couple of
torx bits at least.

Either way, there's no way I'm going to give up a far superior
screw for the sake of the next owner ;-)

--
Grunff

Torx drive from Warehouse Direct.

Knock spots of Phillips/Pozi.


http://www.whdirect.co.uk/

On 3 Jan 2004 21:14:05 GMT, "Bob Eager" wrote:

On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 20:50:55 UTC, Andy Hall wrote:

Axminster do a bulk pack of Spax in a steel case plus three large
boxes of wall plugs as a pretty good deal.

Will take a look...thanks.


Code is SXS


..andy

To email, substitute .nospam with .gl

On 3 Jan 2004 21:54:42 GMT, (Huge) wrote:

Grunff writes:
Huge wrote:

Boy, is the next owner of your house going to curse you!

Why do you say that?

No-one owns Torx screwdrivers. Except you.

Every one of those sets of bits, drills etc for power drivers has a
set of torx bits in it.

I also have a set of security bits from Maplin which covers just about
every other variation - useful for dismantling brown goods.

--
Niall

In message , Niall
writes
On 3 Jan 2004 21:54:42 GMT, (Huge) wrote:

Grunff writes:
Huge wrote:

Boy, is the next owner of your house going to curse you!

Why do you say that?

No-one owns Torx screwdrivers. Except you.

Every one of those sets of bits, drills etc for power drivers has a
set of torx bits in it.

I also have a set of security bits from Maplin which covers just about
every other variation - useful for dismantling brown goods.

When you find one which has 5 slots radiating out from a central nipple,
let me know
--
geoff

In article ,
Grunff wrote:
How many folks have even seen Torq heads, let alone possess a set of
drivers ?

Pretty much anyone who's ever worked on a car made in the last
10 years.

Aren't those Torx - a sort of fluted hex? Dunno the wood screws as I've
not seen them.

--
*If you must choose between two evils, pick the one you've never tried before

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn

In article ,
Huge wrote:
Boy, is the next owner of your house going to curse you!

Why do you say that?

No-one owns Torx screwdrivers. Except you.

If it is Torx, then even my old Rover SD1 uses them. You can buy them in
sets even in Halfords.

--
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Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn

On Sun, 4 Jan 2004 00:13:53 +0000, geoff wrote:

In message , Niall
writes
On 3 Jan 2004 21:54:42 GMT, (Huge) wrote:

Grunff writes:
Huge wrote:

Boy, is the next owner of your house going to curse you!

Why do you say that?

No-one owns Torx screwdrivers. Except you.

Every one of those sets of bits, drills etc for power drivers has a
set of torx bits in it.

I also have a set of security bits from Maplin which covers just about
every other variation - useful for dismantling brown goods.

When you find one which has 5 slots radiating out from a central nipple,
let me know


Security TORX??
http://www.wihatools.com/indexes/indxSecuritytorx.htm


..andy

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In message , Andy Hall
writes
I also have a set of security bits from Maplin which covers just about
every other variation - useful for dismantling brown goods.

When you find one which has 5 slots radiating out from a central nipple,
let me know


Security TORX??
http://www.wihatools.com/indexes/indxSecuritytorx.htm

Nice try - almost but not quite.

These screws have straight slots not a bloated pentagram. They're used
by Sunvic to hold the case on actuator heads. I used to repair them and
ended up making my own screwdriver
--
geoff

I use TurboGold and have been very happy with them.

Security TORX??
http://www.wihatools.com/indexes/indxSecuritytorx.htm

Nice try - almost but not quite.

These screws have straight slots not a bloated pentagram. They're used
by Sunvic to hold the case on actuator heads. I used to repair them and
ended up making my own screwdriver

Like this one?
http://www.wihatools.com/716_IPR_serie.htm

Sparks...

In message , Sparks
writes

Security TORX??
http://www.wihatools.com/indexes/indxSecuritytorx.htm

Nice try - almost but not quite.

These screws have straight slots not a bloated pentagram. They're used
by Sunvic to hold the case on actuator heads. I used to repair them and
ended up making my own screwdriver

Like this one?
http://www.wihatools.com/716_IPR_serie.htm

Sparks...

Nope

I'll have to photograph the screwhead I think

--
geoff

Someone wrote "Buy a decent bit".
I concur.
Spent extra time tonight, while modifying a desk, looking for some
'Torx'.bits.
Finally found them but none would fit the odd looking screw heads. I hadn't
really lloked at the screw heads and was having trouble with a slightly
worn Roberston bit!
Closer examination showed the heads had an unusual eight point design to be
used with a 'regular' Robertson Number 2 (Four side Canadian; in GOOD
condition)!

Dave Plowman wrote:

Aren't those Torx - a sort of fluted hex? Dunno the wood screws as I've
not seen them.

Small screws/bolts tend to be Torx, which is like an Allen but
rather than the driver having a hexagonal x-section it has a 6
pointed star x-section.

Bigger bolts are often star drive (I think also called Torx,
because the company makes them), which is like a hex head, but
instead of the head having a hexagonal x-section it has a 6
pointed star x-section.

--
Grunff

Grunff wrote in message ...
Huge wrote:

Boy, is the next owner of your house going to curse you!

Why do you say that?

Just curious really, but why don't any posts from 'Huge' ever appear
on Google's service anymore? For various reasons I read this ng
almost exclusively at
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&group=uk.d-i-y and the only time
I ever see 'Huge' posts are when they are quoted by others, as above.
Not that I'm *unduly* concerned about missing Huge's posts (no offence
intended!), but I wonder what else I might be missing, and why? (I'm
certainly getting all that cross-posted crap unfortunately!)

David

"Grunff" wrote in message
...
Steve wrote:

How many folks have even seen Torq heads, let alone possess a set of
drivers ?

Pretty much all old PC's use them internally - especially servers. You get
some newbie tech morons coming across them from time to time and thinking
they're either a hex head or messed up posidrive (htf you spell that!)!




a

In article ,
Huge wrote:
If it is Torx, then even my old Rover SD1 uses them.

Indeed. They were designed for automatic insertion on car production
lines. Why anyone would want to use them for manual woodwork is beyond
me.

Absolutely. Brass screws with the slots all in line is the *only* way.

--
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Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn

al wrote:
"Grunff" wrote in message
...

Steve wrote:


How many folks have even seen Torq heads, let alone possess a set of
drivers ?


Pretty much all old PC's use them internally - especially servers. You get
some newbie tech morons coming across them from time to time and thinking
they're either a hex head or messed up posidrive (htf you spell that!)!

Alright, I should rephrase it:

How many folks have even seen Torq heads, let alone possess a set of
drivers ?

to
How many folks, who are not denizens of UK.D-I-Y, or usually "get
someone in" to do jobs have even seen Torq heads, let alone possess
a set ofdrivers ?

Better ?

;-)

Steve

Grunff wrote:

Hello Grunff

G| (BTW - no amount of cursing he/she does could ever match my
G| cursing of the previous owners...)

Mine was a star. For every bit of wood fixed in this house (badly
built fitted cupboards, pine panelling hiding damp and rotten
plasterwork), was fixed with crosshead AND straight screws AND nails
AND glue.

Luckily he didn't have torx screws also, or I'd probably have had to
have hunted him down.

--
Simon Avery, Dartmoor, UK
uk.d-i-y FAQ: http://www.diyfaq.org.uk/

Huge wrote:

So, I have to buy new tools because "Every one of those sets of bits,
drills etc for power drivers has a set of torx bits in it"?

No, I was just making the point that anyone who's bought any
tools with bit sets in the last few years is likely to have come
across them.

All you'll need to buy is a bit set at £2.99, which will include
all the torx bits you need to take my house apart.

--
Grunff

On 4 Jan 2004 11:57:40 GMT, (Huge) wrote:




So, I have to buy new tools because "Every one of those sets of bits,
drills etc for power drivers has a set of torx bits in it"?

No, you have to buy a set of bits.

--
Niall

Dave Plowman wrote:

Hello Dave

DP| Absolutely. Brass screws with the slots all in line is the
DP| *only* way.

Pfft. Countersink, generic pozi's. Wood filler then cover in magnolia.
Jobsa.

--
Simon Avery, Dartmoor, UK
uk.d-i-y FAQ: http://www.diyfaq.org.uk/

"Steve" wrote in message
.. .
How many folks, who are not denizens of UK.D-I-Y, or usually "get
someone in" to do jobs have even seen Torq heads, let alone possess
a set ofdrivers ?

Better ?

;-)


Lovely ... personally, I've never seen one in a DIY situation!! ;o)




a

In article , Huge wrote:

Ah, the definitive Bodger Sign. Mixed screws.

My house was much like this. Tons of silicone sealer stuck everywhere as
well.

Saying that, we got a friends husband to fit a pair of french doors for us
over the Christmas break (I know but I don't get on with wood very well ;-))
French doors came from wickes - when I picked them up I got a couple of
packs of Wickes hinges as well. Identical packets, Identical hinges. One
had Pozi brass screws, one had slotted...

Luckily he didn't have torx screws also, or I'd probably have had to
have hunted him down.

I'll help.

Be to. I have a couple of spare tubes of nonails waiting to wreak revenge.

Darren

In article ,
dmc wrote:
One had Pozi brass screws, one had slotted...

If they were solid brass rather than brass effect, I'd say there'd be a
very real risk of shearing pozidriv ones. Besides, a brass screw is
obviously designed to be seen in this context, so should only be slotted.
I won't use pozidriv where they're likely to be seen.

--
*I am a nobody, and nobody is perfect; therefore I am perfect*

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn