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Hi friends,

My front door needs replacing. I have another UPVC door in my garage that is fairly new and the correct size, but it opens outwards instead of inwards! Is it generally possible to take the hinges off and screw them onto the inside of the door, thereby making it inwards-opening?

Here is a photo of one of the hinges:
http://fffbook.com/hinge2.jpg

Simply reversing the frame is not an option, as I see it, because then then the glazing beads would be on the outside.

Many thanks,

JD
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On Tuesday, October 25, 2016 at 1:01:26 PM UTC+1, JD wrote:
Hi friends,

My front door needs replacing. I have another UPVC door in my garage that is fairly new and the correct size, but it opens outwards instead of inwards! Is it generally possible to take the hinges off and screw them onto the inside of the door, thereby making it inwards-opening?

Here is a photo of one of the hinges:
http://fffbook.com/hinge2.jpg

Simply reversing the frame is not an option, as I see it, because then then the glazing beads would be on the outside.

Many thanks,

JD


PS... Puzzling over the door some more, I have to conclude that making the door inward-opening while keeping the glazing beads internal, is not an option.

So here is another question: Is an outward-opening front door a major no-no? It doesn't open onto a public pavement or anything. Unfortunately, there is no porch to mitigate the situation. The main disadvantage I can can think of, is that the wind could catch it on a windy day. And it might look a bit odd to future house-buyers. Have I overlooked anything?
TIA,
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Mine opens outwards as do many in my road. The only concern is winds blowing
it if its not closed properly, but an automatic door closer will fix that
I'd imagine.
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Hi friends,

My front door needs replacing. I have another UPVC door in my garage that
is fairly new and the correct size, but it opens outwards instead of
inwards! Is it generally possible to take the hinges off and screw them
onto the inside of the door, thereby making it inwards-opening?

Here is a photo of one of the hinges:
http://fffbook.com/hinge2.jpg

Simply reversing the frame is not an option, as I see it, because then
then the glazing beads would be on the outside.

Many thanks,

JD


PS... Puzzling over the door some more, I have to conclude that making the
door inward-opening while keeping the glazing beads internal, is not an
option.

So here is another question: Is an outward-opening front door a major no-no?
It doesn't open onto a public pavement or anything. Unfortunately, there is
no porch to mitigate the situation. The main disadvantage I can can think
of, is that the wind could catch it on a windy day. And it might look a bit
odd to future house-buyers. Have I overlooked anything?
TIA,
JD


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On Tuesday, October 25, 2016 at 3:31:38 PM UTC+1, Brian Gaff wrote:
Mine opens outwards as do many in my road. The only concern is winds blowing
it if its not closed properly, but an automatic door closer will fix that
I'd imagine.
Brian


Thanks for that, Brian. If wind is really the only disadvantage, that's reassuring. I don't recall ever seeing one that opens outwards - but I'll definitely take your word for it.

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On 25/10/2016 13:53, JD wrote:

So here is another question: Is an outward-opening front door a major no-no? It doesn't open onto a public pavement or anything. Unfortunately, there is no porch to mitigate the situation. The main disadvantage I can can think of, is that the wind could catch it on a windy day. And it might look a bit odd to future house-buyers. Have I overlooked anything?
TIA,


Our previous place had an outward opening door, it was quite sheltered
though so the wind wasn't really an issue.
Practically it is less convenient because you tend to be carrying stuff
when wanting to open it and it's far easier to push than pull with your
hands full

Also, it was a timber door, so exposed hinges and weak rimlatch, had to
fit hinge bolts and mortice lock. Again, that wouldn't be a problem with
a uPVC door.

I have heard that it is supposed to be easier to stop an "invader" if
the door opens inward, if that might be a concern


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On Tuesday, 25 October 2016 13:01:26 UTC+1, JD wrote:
Hi friends,

My front door needs replacing. I have another UPVC door in my garage that is fairly new and the correct size, but it opens outwards instead of inwards! Is it generally possible to take the hinges off and screw them onto the inside of the door, thereby making it inwards-opening?

Here is a photo of one of the hinges:
http://fffbook.com/hinge2.jpg

Simply reversing the frame is not an option, as I see it, because then then the glazing beads would be on the outside.

Many thanks,

JD


No, they have different hinges.
Outward opening doors have external hinges.
Usually known as "French doors".
Maybe you could change the hinges.

http://www.renovation-headquarters.c...-security.html
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On Tuesday, October 25, 2016 at 1:01:26 PM UTC+1, JD wrote:
Hi friends,

My front door needs replacing. I have another UPVC door in my garage that
is fairly new and the correct size, but it opens outwards instead of
inwards! Is it generally possible to take the hinges off and screw them
onto the inside of the door, thereby making it inwards-opening?

Here is a photo of one of the hinges:
http://fffbook.com/hinge2.jpg

Simply reversing the frame is not an option, as I see it, because then
then the glazing beads would be on the outside.

Many thanks,

JD


PS... Puzzling over the door some more, I have to conclude that making the
door inward-opening while keeping the glazing beads internal, is not an
option.


Your hinge in the photo looks like the door hangs on the fixed rod and can
be lifted off. The part fixed to the door looks like it has a cap at the
top, which might fit on the bottom instead? If so, when the part is screwed
to the inside of the door instead of the outside, the part will now fit on
the rod upside down from how it is now. The fixed rod holder would be
screwed to the inside of the frame instead of the front as in the photo, to
allow the door to swing inwards.
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On Tuesday, October 25, 2016 at 4:54:36 PM UTC+1, Dave W wrote:
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On Tuesday, October 25, 2016 at 1:01:26 PM UTC+1, JD wrote:
Hi friends,

My front door needs replacing. I have another UPVC door in my garage that
is fairly new and the correct size, but it opens outwards instead of
inwards! Is it generally possible to take the hinges off and screw them
onto the inside of the door, thereby making it inwards-opening?

Here is a photo of one of the hinges:
http://fffbook.com/hinge2.jpg

Simply reversing the frame is not an option, as I see it, because then
then the glazing beads would be on the outside.

Many thanks,

JD


PS... Puzzling over the door some more, I have to conclude that making the
door inward-opening while keeping the glazing beads internal, is not an
option.


Your hinge in the photo looks like the door hangs on the fixed rod and can
be lifted off. The part fixed to the door looks like it has a cap at the
top, which might fit on the bottom instead? If so, when the part is screwed
to the inside of the door instead of the outside, the part will now fit on
the rod upside down from how it is now. The fixed rod holder would be
screwed to the inside of the frame instead of the front as in the photo, to
allow the door to swing inwards.
--
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Dave,
Thank you. Unfortunately, if I have the door opening inwards (however I achieve that), the glazing beads would have to be in the outside. I can't see any way around that. I guess that would be a security risk.
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On 25/10/2016 13:53, JD wrote:
Have I overlooked anything?


Visitors tend to dislike outward opening doors. Especially if they are
standing close enough to the door to get hit when the occupant opens the
door. Or even just to feel as if they might get hit.

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On Tuesday, October 25, 2016 at 6:49:13 PM UTC+1, S Viemeister wrote:
On 10/25/2016 3:59 PM, JD wrote:
On Tuesday, October 25, 2016 at 3:31:38 PM UTC+1, Brian Gaff wrote:
Mine opens outwards as do many in my road. The only concern is winds blowing
it if its not closed properly, but an automatic door closer will fix that
I'd imagine.
Brian


Thanks for that, Brian. If wind is really the only disadvantage, that's reassuring. I don't recall ever seeing one that opens outwards - but I'll definitely take your word for it.

I've seen outward opening doors in a number of old cottages, and on
shops, too.


Thanks, and a good point! On shops is the one place I can remember finding them.
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On Tuesday, 25 October 2016 17:24:00 UTC+1, JD wrote:
On Tuesday, October 25, 2016 at 1:01:26 PM UTC+1, JD wrote:


Hi friends,

My front door needs replacing. I have another UPVC door in my garage that
is fairly new and the correct size, but it opens outwards instead of
inwards! Is it generally possible to take the hinges off and screw them
onto the inside of the door, thereby making it inwards-opening?

Here is a photo of one of the hinges:
http://fffbook.com/hinge2.jpg

Simply reversing the frame is not an option, as I see it, because then
then the glazing beads would be on the outside.

Many thanks,

JD


PS... Puzzling over the door some more, I have to conclude that making the
door inward-opening while keeping the glazing beads internal, is not an
option.



Dave,
Thank you. Unfortunately, if I have the door opening inwards (however I achieve that), the glazing beads would have to be in the outside. I can't see any way around that. I guess that would be a security risk.
JD


Less so than the security downside of having the door open outwards. Plenty of dg has external beading by design.


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On Tuesday, October 25, 2016 at 4:54:36 PM UTC+1, Dave W wrote:
"JD" wrote in message
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On Tuesday, October 25, 2016 at 1:01:26 PM UTC+1, JD wrote:
Hi friends,

My front door needs replacing. I have another UPVC door in my garage
that
is fairly new and the correct size, but it opens outwards instead of
inwards! Is it generally possible to take the hinges off and screw them
onto the inside of the door, thereby making it inwards-opening?

Here is a photo of one of the hinges:
http://fffbook.com/hinge2.jpg

Simply reversing the frame is not an option, as I see it, because then
then the glazing beads would be on the outside.

Many thanks,

JD


PS... Puzzling over the door some more, I have to conclude that making
the
door inward-opening while keeping the glazing beads internal, is not
an
option.

Your hinge in the photo looks like the door hangs on the fixed rod and
can
be lifted off. The part fixed to the door looks like it has a cap at the
top, which might fit on the bottom instead? If so, when the part is
screwed
to the inside of the door instead of the outside, the part will now fit
on
the rod upside down from how it is now. The fixed rod holder would be
screwed to the inside of the frame instead of the front as in the photo,
to
allow the door to swing inwards.
--
Dave W


Dave,
Thank you. Unfortunately, if I have the door opening inwards (however I
achieve that), the glazing beads would have to be in the outside. I can't
see any way around that. I guess that would be a security risk.
JD


I don't understand why the beads have to be on the outside. Can't you
reverse the door and apply the hinges as required?

I take it your photo shows the door can be opened towards the camera with
glazing beads on the hidden side? If so, I was suggesting fixing the hinge
to the hidden side. If not
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On Wednesday, October 26, 2016 at 11:25:05 AM UTC+1, Dave W wrote:
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On Tuesday, October 25, 2016 at 4:54:36 PM UTC+1, Dave W wrote:
"JD" wrote in message
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On Tuesday, October 25, 2016 at 1:01:26 PM UTC+1, JD wrote:
Hi friends,

My front door needs replacing. I have another UPVC door in my garage
that
is fairly new and the correct size, but it opens outwards instead of
inwards! Is it generally possible to take the hinges off and screw them
onto the inside of the door, thereby making it inwards-opening?

Here is a photo of one of the hinges:
http://fffbook.com/hinge2.jpg

Simply reversing the frame is not an option, as I see it, because then
then the glazing beads would be on the outside.

Many thanks,

JD

PS... Puzzling over the door some more, I have to conclude that making
the
door inward-opening while keeping the glazing beads internal, is not
an
option.

Your hinge in the photo looks like the door hangs on the fixed rod and
can
be lifted off. The part fixed to the door looks like it has a cap at the
top, which might fit on the bottom instead? If so, when the part is
screwed
to the inside of the door instead of the outside, the part will now fit
on
the rod upside down from how it is now. The fixed rod holder would be
screwed to the inside of the frame instead of the front as in the photo,
to
allow the door to swing inwards.
--
Dave W


Dave,
Thank you. Unfortunately, if I have the door opening inwards (however I
achieve that), the glazing beads would have to be in the outside. I can't
see any way around that. I guess that would be a security risk.
JD


I don't understand why the beads have to be on the outside. Can't you
reverse the door and apply the hinges as required?

I take it your photo shows the door can be opened towards the camera with
glazing beads on the hidden side? If so, I was suggesting fixing the hinge
to the hidden side. If not
--
Dave W


Dave,
If I reverse the door (by whatever means), the beads would then be on the outside. (My hinge photo shows the non-beaded side of the door.) I think that having the beads externally would be a security risk. Do you agree?

It doesn't seem possible to reverse the door but not the frame, because of the rubber seals that seal the door when closed. Obviously they have to close against the frame.

Incidentally, if I did reverse the door so it opens inwardly, the hinges would be on the left when viewed from inside. I really need a door with the hinges on the right when viewed from inside. But thanks... I hope I'm not overlooking something...
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On Wednesday, October 26, 2016 at 11:25:05 AM UTC+1, Dave W wrote:
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On Tuesday, October 25, 2016 at 4:54:36 PM UTC+1, Dave W wrote:
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On Tuesday, October 25, 2016 at 1:01:26 PM UTC+1, JD wrote:
Hi friends,

My front door needs replacing. I have another UPVC door in my garage
that
is fairly new and the correct size, but it opens outwards instead of
inwards! Is it generally possible to take the hinges off and screw
them
onto the inside of the door, thereby making it inwards-opening?

Here is a photo of one of the hinges:
http://fffbook.com/hinge2.jpg

Simply reversing the frame is not an option, as I see it, because
then
then the glazing beads would be on the outside.

Many thanks,

JD

PS... Puzzling over the door some more, I have to conclude that
making
the
door inward-opening while keeping the glazing beads internal, is
not
an
option.

Your hinge in the photo looks like the door hangs on the fixed rod and
can
be lifted off. The part fixed to the door looks like it has a cap at
the
top, which might fit on the bottom instead? If so, when the part is
screwed
to the inside of the door instead of the outside, the part will now
fit
on
the rod upside down from how it is now. The fixed rod holder would be
screwed to the inside of the frame instead of the front as in the
photo,
to
allow the door to swing inwards.
--
Dave W

Dave,
Thank you. Unfortunately, if I have the door opening inwards (however I
achieve that), the glazing beads would have to be in the outside. I
can't
see any way around that. I guess that would be a security risk.
JD


I don't understand why the beads have to be on the outside. Can't you
reverse the door and apply the hinges as required?

I take it your photo shows the door can be opened towards the camera with
glazing beads on the hidden side? If so, I was suggesting fixing the
hinge
to the hidden side. If not
--
Dave W


Dave,
If I reverse the door (by whatever means), the beads would then be on the
outside. (My hinge photo shows the non-beaded side of the door.) I think
that having the beads externally would be a security risk. Do you agree?

It doesn't seem possible to reverse the door but not the frame, because of
the rubber seals that seal the door when closed. Obviously they have to
close against the frame.

Incidentally, if I did reverse the door so it opens inwardly, the hinges
would be on the left when viewed from inside. I really need a door with
the hinges on the right when viewed from inside. But thanks... I hope I'm
not overlooking something...
JD


Your photo view is what I thought. If the beads were on the outside, I would
worry more about weather damage rather than a burglar who would would just
smash the window.

Now that you have mentioned the rubber seal, obviously the door can't open
inwards with beads inside, unless the seals can be moved to the other side
of the door and contact the other side of the frame. I doubt they can, given
that the bevelled edge of the door in your photo expects to be away from the
frame.
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yes it can be done just reverse the frame secure any beads with glue or security clips
drill new drain holes at the bottom.

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On Tuesday, 25 October 2016 at 18:59:59 UTC+1, Andy Burns wrote:
JD wrote:

My front door needs replacing. I have another UPVC door in my garage
that is fairly new and the correct size, but it opens outwards
instead of inwards! Is it generally possible to take the hinges off
and screw them onto the inside of the door, thereby making it
inwards-opening?

I think they'd construct the frame differently (bars and seals facing
the other way) for outward-vs-inward opening, so you couldn't just hang
the other door in the same frame.


We have an outward opening door and that is the case, the whole frame would have to be reversed.

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On 22/10/2020 08:07, Tricky Dicky wrote:
On Tuesday, 25 October 2016 at 18:59:59 UTC+1, Andy Burns wrote:
JD wrote:

My front door needs replacing. I have another UPVC door in my garage
that is fairly new and the correct size, but it opens outwards
instead of inwards! Is it generally possible to take the hinges off
and screw them onto the inside of the door, thereby making it
inwards-opening?

I think they'd construct the frame differently (bars and seals facing
the other way) for outward-vs-inward opening, so you couldn't just hang
the other door in the same frame.


We have an outward opening door and that is the case, the whole frame would have to be reversed.


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