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Andy Burns[_13_] August 12th 16 08:12 PM

Gas pipe through above ceiling
 
Asking about something I've seen done, rather than something I'm
thinking of doing ...

Gas pipe enters building through cavity wall (it is sleeved) at a height
above ground floor ceiling and below first floor floorboards, crosses
room and descends to cooker. Should the floor/ceiling void be ventilated?

Gas safe register tech bulletin #113 may have something to say on the
matter, but I can't find a copy online.

Phil L August 12th 16 08:26 PM

Gas pipe through above ceiling
 
Andy Burns wrote:
Asking about something I've seen done, rather than something I'm
thinking of doing ...

Gas pipe enters building through cavity wall (it is sleeved) at a
height above ground floor ceiling and below first floor floorboards,
crosses room and descends to cooker. Should the floor/ceiling void
be ventilated?
Gas safe register tech bulletin #113 may have something to say on the
matter, but I can't find a copy online.


No, almost every house in the country has gas pipes under unventilated
floorboards, there is no requirements to knock bricks out of walls.

My gas meter is downstairs, my boiler is upstairs, as is every other house
on this estate, about 180 houses (meter at front, boiler at back).

None of them have vents at joist level and are not required to do so.



harry August 13th 16 06:51 AM

Gas pipe through above ceiling
 
On Friday, 12 August 2016 20:25:10 UTC+1, Phil L wrote:
Andy Burns wrote:
Asking about something I've seen done, rather than something I'm
thinking of doing ...

Gas pipe enters building through cavity wall (it is sleeved) at a
height above ground floor ceiling and below first floor floorboards,
crosses room and descends to cooker. Should the floor/ceiling void
be ventilated?
Gas safe register tech bulletin #113 may have something to say on the
matter, but I can't find a copy online.


No, almost every house in the country has gas pipes under unventilated
floorboards, there is no requirements to knock bricks out of walls.

My gas meter is downstairs, my boiler is upstairs, as is every other house
on this estate, about 180 houses (meter at front, boiler at back).

None of them have vents at joist level and are not required to do so.


Why do you babble on about things you have no knowledge of?
All voids where there is a gas pipe need some precaution.

http://www.dbsaltd.co.uk/downloads/T...ed%20Voids.pdf

All regulations change with passage of time.

David August 13th 16 12:13 PM

Gas pipe through above ceiling
 
On Fri, 12 Aug 2016 20:12:58 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:

Asking about something I've seen done, rather than something I'm
thinking of doing ...

Gas pipe enters building through cavity wall (it is sleeved) at a height
above ground floor ceiling and below first floor floorboards, crosses
room and descends to cooker. Should the floor/ceiling void be
ventilated?

Gas safe register tech bulletin #113 may have something to say on the
matter, but I can't find a copy online.


Our new(ish) gas installation does this.

Pipe goes up the wall and along, then in beneath the upstairs floor.

Down immediately to the cooker.

Across to the other side to the boiler in the airing cupboard.

No special ventilation that I can see - if there were likely to be
problems I would worry more about the bit between the floor and the boiler
in the airing cupboard.

Cheers


Dave R

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Phil L August 13th 16 02:55 PM

Gas pipe through above ceiling
 
harry wrote:

Why do you babble on about things you have no knowledge of?
All voids where there is a gas pipe need some precaution.

http://www.dbsaltd.co.uk/downloads/T...ed%20Voids.pdf

All regulations change with passage of time.


You keep quoting the same information without even reading it Harry - you've
been proven wrong fifty times in the previous thread on this subject and
still post the same ****e that you can't even understand.
Last time out you were insisting that every gas meter cupboard must have
it's own vent, despite over 90% of them in the UK don't have any such vent
and aren't required to do so.

'no knowledge of'? - I've been working with a gas safe plumber for the past
three weeks as he's first fixing several detatched houses I'm working on.
The gas meter is in the integral garage. He's run a 22mm pipe up the garage
wall, across under the floorboards of two bedrooms, a landing and a boiler
cupboard and up the wall to attatch to the boiler. No ventilation in any of
the voids, I said to him, 'there's a bloke on the internet says you're doing
it all wrong, and it needs venting under the floorboards'. He said, 'tell
him he's a ****'



harry August 13th 16 06:04 PM

Gas pipe through above ceiling
 
On Saturday, 13 August 2016 14:54:31 UTC+1, Phil L wrote:
harry wrote:

Why do you babble on about things you have no knowledge of?
All voids where there is a gas pipe need some precaution.

http://www.dbsaltd.co.uk/downloads/T...ed%20Voids.pdf

All regulations change with passage of time.


You keep quoting the same information without even reading it Harry - you've
been proven wrong fifty times in the previous thread on this subject and
still post the same ****e that you can't even understand.
Last time out you were insisting that every gas meter cupboard must have
it's own vent, despite over 90% of them in the UK don't have any such vent
and aren't required to do so.

'no knowledge of'? - I've been working with a gas safe plumber for the past
three weeks as he's first fixing several detatched houses I'm working on.
The gas meter is in the integral garage. He's run a 22mm pipe up the garage
wall, across under the floorboards of two bedrooms, a landing and a boiler
cupboard and up the wall to attatch to the boiler. No ventilation in any of
the voids, I said to him, 'there's a bloke on the internet says you're doing
it all wrong, and it needs venting under the floorboards'. He said, 'tell
him he's a ****'


Read the regulation/link I posted ****-fer-brains.

I was working on industrial gas boilers for thirty years.
Watching the regulations evolve to counter various accidents.

There's plenty of brain dead gas fitters about.
Which is why we have gas explosions from time to time.

Phil L August 13th 16 08:25 PM

Gas pipe through above ceiling
 
harry wrote:
On Saturday, 13 August 2016 14:54:31 UTC+1, Phil L wrote:
harry wrote:

Why do you babble on about things you have no knowledge of?
All voids where there is a gas pipe need some precaution.

http://www.dbsaltd.co.uk/downloads/T...ed%20Voids.pdf

All regulations change with passage of time.


You keep quoting the same information without even reading it Harry
- you've been proven wrong fifty times in the previous thread on
this subject and still post the same ****e that you can't even
understand.
Last time out you were insisting that every gas meter cupboard must
have it's own vent, despite over 90% of them in the UK don't have
any such vent and aren't required to do so.

'no knowledge of'? - I've been working with a gas safe plumber for
the past three weeks as he's first fixing several detatched houses
I'm working on. The gas meter is in the integral garage. He's run a
22mm pipe up the garage wall, across under the floorboards of two
bedrooms, a landing and a boiler cupboard and up the wall to attatch
to the boiler. No ventilation in any of the voids, I said to him,
'there's a bloke on the internet says you're doing it all wrong, and
it needs venting under the floorboards'. He said, 'tell him he's a
****'


Read the regulation/link I posted ****-fer-brains.

I was working on industrial gas boilers for thirty years.
Watching the regulations evolve to counter various accidents.

There's plenty of brain dead gas fitters about.
Which is why we have gas explosions from time to time.


The link you continually post is some crappy firm trying to sell their
flexible gas ducting, and the term 'void' is not what you think it is. If
you are classing the space between ceilings and floorboards as a void, then
a living room or kitchen or even a hallway is also a void, this is the part
you fail to understand.

A meter cupboard would be classed as a void, therefore the gas people are
commiting a crime every time they read a meter in an unventilated one, which
is almost all of them.

Almost every house in the country would have lines of vents at joist level
front and back - they don't.

Every housebuilder would not be allowed to have any gas pipes under any
floors, nor would they be allowed to box them in in any way, every gas pipe
in new build would have to be on the surface in a well ventilated room -
this is simply garbage, you know it, everyone on here knows it and so does
every gas safe plumber - the 'voids' you are posting about are not the voids
we are talking about



[email protected] February 15th 18 05:52 AM

Gas pipe through above ceiling
 
On Sunday, August 14, 2016 at 3:04:54 AM UTC+10, harry wrote:
On Saturday, 13 August 2016 14:54:31 UTC+1, Phil L wrote:
harry wrote:

Why do you babble on about things you have no knowledge of?
All voids where there is a gas pipe need some precaution.

http://www.dbsaltd.co.uk/downloads/T...ed%20Voids.pdf

All regulations change with passage of time.


You keep quoting the same information without even reading it Harry - you've
been proven wrong fifty times in the previous thread on this subject and
still post the same ****e that you can't even understand.
Last time out you were insisting that every gas meter cupboard must have
it's own vent, despite over 90% of them in the UK don't have any such vent
and aren't required to do so.

'no knowledge of'? - I've been working with a gas safe plumber for the past
three weeks as he's first fixing several detatched houses I'm working on.
The gas meter is in the integral garage. He's run a 22mm pipe up the garage
wall, across under the floorboards of two bedrooms, a landing and a boiler
cupboard and up the wall to attatch to the boiler. No ventilation in any of
the voids, I said to him, 'there's a bloke on the internet says you're doing
it all wrong, and it needs venting under the floorboards'. He said, 'tell
him he's a ****'


Read the regulation/link I posted ****-fer-brains.

I was working on industrial gas boilers for thirty years.
Watching the regulations evolve to counter various accidents.

There's plenty of brain dead gas fitters about.
Which is why we have gas explosions from time to time.


Your weak harry


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