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The Natural Philosopher January 22nd 05 01:20 AM

IMM wrote:

":::Jerry::::" wrote in message
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IMM wrote:

And most combis are further from the bathroom than a cylinder


would

be.

hence the wait for hot water.

Then put the combi in a more suitable place, like the loft.

Brilliant. It will then be as far away from the kitchen as possible.


And

the kitchen is likely to need hot water the most often.

Do you ever think before replying?


Ah, but IMM probably lives in a bungalow which he cunningly designed


to

have

the bathroom next to the Kitchen, another one of those IMM 'one


solution

fits all' answers...

Unknowingly you have hit it.


Educated guess...

Houses designed for passive solar have all the

utility and storage rooms on the north side of the house.


Exactly, and it's also exactly why your suggestion is next to useless in


98

percent of British homes.



Put the combi in the loft and have a secondary circulation pump to ensure
instant water at all taps.


Why not put it in Milton Keynes?

Could use all teh waste heat to keep ice off the A5.

The Natural Philosopher January 22nd 05 01:21 AM

Mike wrote:



Two in the loft. One in the bathroom. One in the toilet and a pair in the
kitchen.

I thought he had more piars of underpants than that...



IMM January 22nd 05 02:07 AM


":::Jerry::::" wrote in message
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
:::Jerry:::: wrote:
Normal people will tell others why they think something is wrong or
'drivel'...




snip drivel

lots of it.



IMM January 22nd 05 02:10 AM


"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
IMM wrote:
Put the combi in the loft and have a secondary circulation pump to

ensure
instant water at all taps.


I'm


snip drivel

incomprehensible babble.



IMM January 22nd 05 02:15 AM


"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
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IMM wrote:

":::Jerry::::" wrote in message
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"IMM" wrote in message
...

":::Jerry::::" wrote in message
...

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...

In article ,
IMM wrote:

And most combis are further from the bathroom than a cylinder

would

be.

hence the wait for hot water.

Then put the combi in a more suitable place, like the loft.

Brilliant. It will then be as far away from the kitchen as possible.

And

the kitchen is likely to need hot water the most often.

Do you ever think before replying?


Ah, but IMM probably lives in a bungalow which he cunningly designed


to

have

the bathroom next to the Kitchen, another one of those IMM 'one


solution

fits all' answers...

Unknowingly you have hit it.

Educated guess...

Houses designed for passive solar have all the

utility and storage rooms on the north side of the house.


Exactly, and it's also exactly why your suggestion is next to useless in


98

percent of British homes.



Put the combi in the loft and have a secondary circulation pump to

ensure
instant water at all taps.


Why not put it in Milton Keynes?

Could use all teh waste heat to keep ice off the A5.


Positive thinking.



IMM January 22nd 05 02:22 AM


"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
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IMM wrote:


Normal people don't respond to drivel.!!



What a snotty uni, lord snooty and his pals, expression to be sure.


Do you still read the Beano?




IMM January 22nd 05 03:37 AM


"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
:::Jerry:::: wrote:
Normal people will tell others why they think something is wrong or
'drivel'...


snip drivel



:::Jerry:::: January 22nd 05 10:05 AM


"IMM" wrote in message
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drivel

lots of it.



Yes, that is what you normally post.



The Natural Philosopher January 22nd 05 10:11 AM

IMM wrote:

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
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IMM wrote:


Normal people don't respond to drivel.!!



What a snotty uni, lord snooty and his pals, expression to be sure.



Do you still read the Beano?



I never read the Beano.
AFAICR there weren't any words in it much anyway.

IMM January 22nd 05 12:07 PM


"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
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IMM wrote:

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
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IMM wrote:


Normal people don't respond to drivel.!!



What a snotty uni, lord snooty and his pals, expression to be sure.



Do you still read the Beano?


I never read the Beano.
AFAICR there weren't any words in it much anyway.


The Dandy eh.



John January 22nd 05 12:30 PM


"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
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IMM wrote:

":::Jerry::::" wrote in message
...

"IMM" wrote in message
...

":::Jerry::::" wrote in message
...

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...

In article ,
IMM wrote:

And most combis are further from the bathroom than a cylinder

would

be.

hence the wait for hot water.

Then put the combi in a more suitable place, like the loft.

Brilliant. It will then be as far away from the kitchen as possible.

And

the kitchen is likely to need hot water the most often.

Do you ever think before replying?


Ah, but IMM probably lives in a bungalow which he cunningly designed


to

have

the bathroom next to the Kitchen, another one of those IMM 'one


solution

fits all' answers...

Unknowingly you have hit it.

Educated guess...

Houses designed for passive solar have all the

utility and storage rooms on the north side of the house.


Exactly, and it's also exactly why your suggestion is next to useless in


98

percent of British homes.



Put the combi in the loft and have a secondary circulation pump to ensure
instant water at all taps.


Why not put it in Milton Keynes?

Could use all teh waste heat to keep ice off the A5.


I'm visualising one of the "commoner" range of combis (not one of dimms
exceptions to the norm) with a circulation pump from the hot water tap
system pumping back round to the cold water inlet thus maintaining a
continuous flow through its water flow detection circuit. We all know what
the combi will do under those circumstances - switch to hot water duty and
refuse to produce heat to the radiators. Another of dimms not thought
through ideas!



IMM January 22nd 05 12:47 PM


"John" wrote in message
...

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...
IMM wrote:

":::Jerry::::" wrote in message
...

"IMM" wrote in message
...

":::Jerry::::" wrote in message
...

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...

In article ,
IMM wrote:

And most combis are further from the bathroom than a cylinder

would

be.

hence the wait for hot water.

Then put the combi in a more suitable place, like the loft.

Brilliant. It will then be as far away from the kitchen as possible.

And

the kitchen is likely to need hot water the most often.

Do you ever think before replying?


Ah, but IMM probably lives in a bungalow which he cunningly designed

to

have

the bathroom next to the Kitchen, another one of those IMM 'one

solution

fits all' answers...

Unknowingly you have hit it.

Educated guess...

Houses designed for passive solar have all the

utility and storage rooms on the north side of the house.


Exactly, and it's also exactly why your suggestion is next to useless

in

98

percent of British homes.


Put the combi in the loft and have a secondary circulation pump to

ensure
instant water at all taps.


Why not put it in Milton Keynes?

Could use all teh waste heat to keep ice off the A5.


I'm visualising one of the "commoner" range of combis (not one of dimms
exceptions to the norm) with a circulation pump from the hot water tap
system pumping back round to the cold water inlet thus maintaining a
continuous flow through its water flow detection circuit. We all know what
the combi will do under those circumstances - switch to hot water duty and
refuse to produce heat to the radiators. Another of dimms not thought
through ideas!


Fishface here hasn't a clue, not a clue!!!! You have a pipe stat on the
secondary circulation pipe, so when up to temperature the secondary
circulation pump is switched off and the combi reverts back to CH mode. All
secondary circulation loops must be lagged to retain the heat in the loop.

And this one goes around working on people's equipment!!! I despair!




:::Jerry:::: January 22nd 05 01:03 PM


"IMM" wrote in message
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Fishface here hasn't a clue, not a clue!!!!

And this one goes around working on people's equipment!!! I despair!


If you despair, everyone else must be shatting themselves when you come
calling then !



Dave Plowman (News) January 22nd 05 01:38 PM

In article ,
IMM wrote:
Fishface here hasn't a clue, not a clue!!!! You have a pipe stat on the
secondary circulation pipe, so when up to temperature the secondary
circulation pump is switched off and the combi reverts back to CH mode.
All secondary circulation loops must be lagged to retain the heat in the
loop.


So it's constantly cycling regardless of water use and firing up the combi?
Is this where you get your efficiency figures for boilers from - not?

And this one goes around working on people's equipment!!! I despair!


Others might well just despair of your constant knee jerk responses given
without the benefit of a single brain cell.

IMM. The last M stands for misinformation.

--
*42.7% of statistics are made up. Sorry, that should read 47.2% *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

John January 22nd 05 09:10 PM


"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
IMM wrote:
Fishface here hasn't a clue, not a clue!!!! You have a pipe stat on the
secondary circulation pipe, so when up to temperature the secondary
circulation pump is switched off and the combi reverts back to CH mode.
All secondary circulation loops must be lagged to retain the heat in the
loop.


So it's constantly cycling regardless of water use and firing up the
combi?
Is this where you get your efficiency figures for boilers from - not?


At least dimm gave it a bit more thought this time. Seems a shame to now
have to add in a non return valve to stop water drawn off from the hot tap
taking a short route via the cold supply and the hot water loop return. Of
course he'll now claim he "meant" to say this all the timeg


At this rate Others might well just despair of your constant knee jerk
responses given
without the benefit of a single brain cell.

IMM. The last M stands for misinformation.


Hear hear!



IMM January 22nd 05 09:29 PM


"John" wrote in message
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Seems a shame to now
have to add in a non return valve to
stop water drawn off from the hot tap
taking a short route via the cold supply
and the hot water loop return. Of
course he'll now claim he "meant" to say
this all the timeg


snip fishface drivel

It is exactly the same as a thermal stores secondary loop, of which you have
no experience of whatsoever.

You obviously come on this ng to be educated, as your knowledge is sparse to
say the least.

snip more fishface drivel




Cordless Crazy November 28th 05 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan
hi,

Any recommendations for sources of information on
designing a central heating/ho****er system for please.

have found sites that provide info on rating the boiler/rads
but nothing on the actual design. type of heat storage etc.

duncan

So, have you completed your design?


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